Re: 3600 Threads with a rampup of 3600 seconds?
Since the goal is to simulate 3600 users per hour, you don't have enough information to do a good job. The first thing I would do is see if there's HTTP logs. If there is, use webtrends or some other web analysis tool to figure out how long the average session is and what the break down looks like. I say this for a few reasons. If a system get 3600 users per hour, that doesn't tell us if each session is 1 min or 10 minutes. It also doesn't tell us how many requests they make per minute and what gets put in the session. Running a test without this information isn't going give you a complete picture. I've worked on superpages.com and other high volume websites, so it crucial you have this information. Once you know the average duration per session, average requests per second, and the pages they hit, you'll be able to simulate 3600 users with fewer resources. On the opposite end, if you really want to simulate 3600 active users per hour, you'll need several machines and use Jmeter to do distributed testing. to figure out how many systems you'll need divide 3600 / 150 = 24 machines. Even before you run a full blown test, I can tell you right now that 3600 active heavy users will require a lot of bandwidth. If it's an intranet application, bandwidth won't be an issue. If it's a public application on the internet, you'll need a lot of bandwidth. By a lot I mean a lot more than a T1. If the server isn't hosted at a big ISP with lots of bandwidth, the server won't be the bottleneck. If you haven't read my articles on Jmeter and Tomcat website, i would recommend you read them. It may help. http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/jmeter_distributed_testing_step_by_step.pdf http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/articles/performance.pdf http://cvs.apache.org/~woolfel/article.zip peter On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 7:36 AM, sebb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/07/2008, kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> > >> > > >> > > Long story short, your server does not care much about the number of >> > > concurrent users, it is just receiving the requests, processing them >> > > and sending out the response. >> > > >> > >> >> I would beg do differ. For one thing if you are using cookies and sessions, >> the server will be holding onto resources for each user. Because of this the >> number of concurrent users can make a difference. This is a problem if you >> just loop over 25 users using JMeter. It caches the session ID and if you >> want a different user on each run you'll have to do something to make sure >> that it happens as expected. Otherwise you won't get the resource >> consumption that you'd see in a real system. >> > > The Cookie Manager has a "Clear Cookies each iteration" setting. > This can be used to force the server to generate a new cookie/session. > > Likewise, if the website uses login/logout these can be added to the test > plan. > > A JMeter load test which does not generate as many sessions as > individual users do can still be useful - if the performance is poor, > it's very unlikely that the performance will improve when the resource > usage is increased. And the relative page timings are likely to be the > same, even if the absolute ones are not. Also, if the response timings > are not consistent in such a test, that can point to server > housekeeping issues (e.g garbage collection). > > I would suggest setting the number of JMeter threads to be the maximum > expected number of concurrent active sessions, and use timers etc to > set the throughput to the target throughput. > > Add cookie clearing/logins as needed to simulate the actual user numbers. > > However you should probably start with lower numbers, especially if > you are testing against a live server ;-) > >> Thanks for the links though. I might add a shameless plug for >> www.javaperformancetuning.com. >> >> Regards, >> Kirk >> > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3600 Threads with a rampup of 3600 seconds?
; 502) > > > > responding to the load. > > > > > > > > Abel > > > > > > > > > > > > sebb-2-2 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 09/07/2008, Abel MacAdam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > Today I tried to emulate "3600 users in one hour" by making a > test > > > > > > where > > > > > > 3600 threads where started in 3600 seconds. I observed that the > load > > > > > > in > > > > > > one > > > > > > of my CPU's went to 100 %, and that JMeter stopped responding. > > > > > > Eventually I > > > > > > killed this process, and restarted it with 25 threads, to be > started > > > > > > within > > > > > > 25 seconds, and looping forever, but now for 3600 seconds (one > hour). > > > > > > Now > > > > > > the test is running, while my CPU-usage is idling at away between > 2 > > > > > > and > > > > > > 5 %. > > > > > > At the same time I'm writing this question. So all in all a much > > > > > > better > > > > > > situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > My question: Is JMeter loading all 3600 threads in memory, > resulting > > > > > > in > > > > > > requiring that much memory and processor power? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3600 threads is rather a lot for one JMeter instance. > > > > > Too many for your test plan, as you have found. > > > > > > > > > > Note that a single thread can generate a much higher load than a > > > > > single user, as JMeter can issue requests much faster than a user > > > > > clicking links. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Abel > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > View this message in context: > > > > > > > http://www.nabble.com/3600-Threads-with-a-rampup-of-3600-seconds--tp18363108p18363108.html > > > > > > Sent from the JMeter - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > View this message in context: > > > > > http://www.nabble.com/3600-Threads-with-a-rampup-of-3600-seconds--tp18363108p18376917.html > > > > Sent from the JMeter - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > diem perdidi > > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3600 Threads with a rampup of 3600 seconds?
Hi, Long story short, your server does not care much about the number of concurrent users, it is just receiving the requests, processing them and sending out the response. I would beg do differ. For one thing if you are using cookies and sessions, the server will be holding onto resources for each user. Because of this the number of concurrent users can make a difference. This is a problem if you just loop over 25 users using JMeter. It caches the session ID and if you want a different user on each run you'll have to do something to make sure that it happens as expected. Otherwise you won't get the resource consumption that you'd see in a real system. Thanks for the links though. I might add a shameless plug for www.javaperformancetuning.com. Regards, Kirk So basically, what you are emulating is number of different HTTP Sampler calls per second. With JMeter, you could run those Samplers more frequently, i.e. simulate more users with less threads. That is, if you configure everything right. And if you loop those threads, you don't have to spawn a new one for every new run through the user model. Regards, Andrey If you loop some threads which are sending out the requests much faster than real users, and if you configure those threads right, the generated load will be the same as the one generated by more you could generate the same load as many of those real users with some large thinking time do. On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Abel MacAdam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Peter and Sebb, Thanks for your reply. How would you emulate: "During peak hours we get a maximum of 3600 requests per hour." and "Each step in the sales process may cost a maximum of 1 second" I think the second request is not possible to emulate, as it depends on the webserver and traffic on the Internet, not on JMeter. The transaction I need to test consists of 6 pages. Different pages where you need to fill in personal data. Compare it with entering your personal data when you buy something at Amazon. Should I add "think" time at each page, so the "user" I emulate has the time to enter information? 10 Seconds per page where you need to enter something? That makes a transaction time of 20 seconds (two pages where data needs to be entered). 1 Does that make 6 requests in 20 seconds? 2 Should I multiply that with 600, to get 3600 requests? or 3a Should I multiply that with 180 to get 3600 seconds? (eg repeat 180 times) and 3b Should I use 4 users (3,333) to get from 180 to 600 requests? Eventually I used 25 threads with a ramp up of 25 seconds, to be repeated indefinitely. I observed that the server had problems (response code 502) responding to the load. Abel sebb-2-2 wrote: On 09/07/2008, Abel MacAdam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Today I tried to emulate "3600 users in one hour" by making a test where 3600 threads where started in 3600 seconds. I observed that the load in one of my CPU's went to 100 %, and that JMeter stopped responding. Eventually I killed this process, and restarted it with 25 threads, to be started within 25 seconds, and looping forever, but now for 3600 seconds (one hour). Now the test is running, while my CPU-usage is idling at away between 2 and 5 %. At the same time I'm writing this question. So all in all a much better situation. My question: Is JMeter loading all 3600 threads in memory, resulting in requiring that much memory and processor power? 3600 threads is rather a lot for one JMeter instance. Too many for your test plan, as you have found. Note that a single thread can generate a much higher load than a single user, as JMeter can issue requests much faster than a user clicking links. Thanks, Abel -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/3600-Threads-with-a-rampup-of-3600-seconds--tp18363108p18363108.html Sent from the JMeter - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/3600-Threads-with-a-rampup-of-3600-seconds--tp18363108p18376917.html Sent from the JMeter - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- diem perdidi - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: 3600 Threads with a rampup of 3600 seconds?
Thanks all for your replies. It gives me much to ponder about. Abel. Andrey Beznogov wrote: > > Hello, > > there are some very nice (and short too ;)) publications on that > topic. You could start by reading "Part 4: Modeling Groups of Users" > of the "User Experience, not Metrics" Series. > > PDF file of that article http://www.perftestplus.com/resources/UENM4.pdf > Home page of the series (scroll down, its somewhere in the second half > of the page) http://www.perftestplus.com/pubs.htm > JMeter Wiki with some interesting links > http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-jmeter/ > > Long story short, your server does not care much about the number of > concurrent users, it is just receiving the requests, processing them > and sending out the response. So basically, what you are emulating is > number of different HTTP Sampler calls per second. With JMeter, you > could run those Samplers more frequently, i.e. simulate more users > with less threads. That is, if you configure everything right. And if > you loop those threads, you don't have to spawn a new one for every > new run through the user model. > > Regards, > Andrey > > If you loop some threads which are sending out the requests much > faster than real users, and if you configure those threads right, the > generated load will be the same as the one generated by more you could > generate the same load as many of those real users with some large > thinking time do. > On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Abel MacAdam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> Peter and Sebb, >> >> Thanks for your reply. >> >> How would you emulate: >> "During peak hours we get a maximum of 3600 requests per hour." >> and >> "Each step in the sales process may cost a maximum of 1 second" >> >> I think the second request is not possible to emulate, as it depends on >> the >> webserver and traffic on the Internet, not on JMeter. >> >> The transaction I need to test consists of 6 pages. Different pages where >> you need to fill in personal data. Compare it with entering your personal >> data >> when you buy something at Amazon. >> >> Should I add "think" time at each page, so the "user" I emulate has the >> time to enter information? 10 Seconds per page where you need to enter >> something? That makes a transaction time of 20 seconds (two pages where >> data needs to be entered). >> >> 1 Does that make 6 requests in 20 seconds? >> 2 Should I multiply that with 600, to get 3600 requests? >> or >> 3a Should I multiply that with 180 to get 3600 seconds? (eg repeat 180 >> times) >> and >> 3b Should I use 4 users (3,333) to get from 180 to 600 requests? >> >> Eventually I used 25 threads with a ramp up of 25 seconds, to be repeated >> indefinitely. I observed that the server had problems (response code 502) >> responding to the load. >> >> Abel >> >> >> sebb-2-2 wrote: >>> >>> On 09/07/2008, Abel MacAdam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Today I tried to emulate "3600 users in one hour" by making a test >>>> where >>>> 3600 threads where started in 3600 seconds. I observed that the load >>>> in >>>> one >>>> of my CPU's went to 100 %, and that JMeter stopped responding. >>>> Eventually I >>>> killed this process, and restarted it with 25 threads, to be started >>>> within >>>> 25 seconds, and looping forever, but now for 3600 seconds (one hour). >>>> Now >>>> the test is running, while my CPU-usage is idling at away between 2 >>>> and >>>> 5 %. >>>> At the same time I'm writing this question. So all in all a much >>>> better >>>> situation. >>>> >>>> My question: Is JMeter loading all 3600 threads in memory, resulting >>>> in >>>> requiring that much memory and processor power? >>>> >>> >>> 3600 threads is rather a lot for one JMeter instance. >>> Too many for your test plan, as you have found. >>> >>> Note that a single thread can generate a much higher load than a >>> single user, as JMeter can issue requests much faster than a user >>> clicking links. >>> >>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Abel >>>> >>>> -- >>>> View this message in context: >>>> http://www.nabble.com/3600-T
Re: 3600 Threads with a rampup of 3600 seconds?
Hello, there are some very nice (and short too ;)) publications on that topic. You could start by reading "Part 4: Modeling Groups of Users" of the "User Experience, not Metrics" Series. PDF file of that article http://www.perftestplus.com/resources/UENM4.pdf Home page of the series (scroll down, its somewhere in the second half of the page) http://www.perftestplus.com/pubs.htm JMeter Wiki with some interesting links http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-jmeter/ Long story short, your server does not care much about the number of concurrent users, it is just receiving the requests, processing them and sending out the response. So basically, what you are emulating is number of different HTTP Sampler calls per second. With JMeter, you could run those Samplers more frequently, i.e. simulate more users with less threads. That is, if you configure everything right. And if you loop those threads, you don't have to spawn a new one for every new run through the user model. Regards, Andrey If you loop some threads which are sending out the requests much faster than real users, and if you configure those threads right, the generated load will be the same as the one generated by more you could generate the same load as many of those real users with some large thinking time do. On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Abel MacAdam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Peter and Sebb, > > Thanks for your reply. > > How would you emulate: > "During peak hours we get a maximum of 3600 requests per hour." > and > "Each step in the sales process may cost a maximum of 1 second" > > I think the second request is not possible to emulate, as it depends on the > webserver and traffic on the Internet, not on JMeter. > > The transaction I need to test consists of 6 pages. Different pages where > you need to fill in personal data. Compare it with entering your personal > data > when you buy something at Amazon. > > Should I add "think" time at each page, so the "user" I emulate has the > time to enter information? 10 Seconds per page where you need to enter > something? That makes a transaction time of 20 seconds (two pages where > data needs to be entered). > > 1 Does that make 6 requests in 20 seconds? > 2 Should I multiply that with 600, to get 3600 requests? > or > 3a Should I multiply that with 180 to get 3600 seconds? (eg repeat 180 > times) > and > 3b Should I use 4 users (3,333) to get from 180 to 600 requests? > > Eventually I used 25 threads with a ramp up of 25 seconds, to be repeated > indefinitely. I observed that the server had problems (response code 502) > responding to the load. > > Abel > > > sebb-2-2 wrote: >> >> On 09/07/2008, Abel MacAdam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Today I tried to emulate "3600 users in one hour" by making a test where >>> 3600 threads where started in 3600 seconds. I observed that the load in >>> one >>> of my CPU's went to 100 %, and that JMeter stopped responding. >>> Eventually I >>> killed this process, and restarted it with 25 threads, to be started >>> within >>> 25 seconds, and looping forever, but now for 3600 seconds (one hour). >>> Now >>> the test is running, while my CPU-usage is idling at away between 2 and >>> 5 %. >>> At the same time I'm writing this question. So all in all a much better >>> situation. >>> >>> My question: Is JMeter loading all 3600 threads in memory, resulting in >>> requiring that much memory and processor power? >>> >> >> 3600 threads is rather a lot for one JMeter instance. >> Too many for your test plan, as you have found. >> >> Note that a single thread can generate a much higher load than a >> single user, as JMeter can issue requests much faster than a user >> clicking links. >> >> >>> Thanks, >>> Abel >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://www.nabble.com/3600-Threads-with-a-rampup-of-3600-seconds--tp18363108p18363108.html >>> Sent from the JMeter - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> > > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/3600-Threads-with-a-rampup-of-3600-seconds--tp18363108p18376917.html > Sent from the JMeter - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- diem perdidi - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3600 Threads with a rampup of 3600 seconds?
Abel MacAdam wrote: Peter and Sebb, Thanks for your reply. How would you emulate: "During peak hours we get a maximum of 3600 requests per hour." and "Each step in the sales process may cost a maximum of 1 second" I think the second request is not possible to emulate, as it depends on the webserver and traffic on the Internet, not on JMeter. I read the second requirement as an SLA. You may want to add a timing assert to the HTTP sampler so that it flags requests that fall outside of this boundry. The transaction I need to test consists of 6 pages. Different pages where you need to fill in personal data. Compare it with entering your personal data when you buy something at Amazon. Should I add "think" time at each page, so the "user" I emulate has the time to enter information? 10 Seconds per page where you need to enter something? That makes a transaction time of 20 seconds (two pages where data needs to be entered). 1 Does that make 6 requests in 20 seconds? 2 Should I multiply that with 600, to get 3600 requests? or 3a Should I multiply that with 180 to get 3600 seconds? (eg repeat 180 times) and 3b Should I use 4 users (3,333) to get from 180 to 600 requests? Eventually I used 25 threads with a ramp up of 25 seconds, to be repeated indefinitely. I observed that the server had problems (response code 502) responding to the load. If you've added a reasonable think time to each sampler I think you've found the answer to your question. You need to start diagnosing the problem at this load. Regards, Kirk Abel sebb-2-2 wrote: On 09/07/2008, Abel MacAdam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Today I tried to emulate "3600 users in one hour" by making a test where 3600 threads where started in 3600 seconds. I observed that the load in one of my CPU's went to 100 %, and that JMeter stopped responding. Eventually I killed this process, and restarted it with 25 threads, to be started within 25 seconds, and looping forever, but now for 3600 seconds (one hour). Now the test is running, while my CPU-usage is idling at away between 2 and 5 %. At the same time I'm writing this question. So all in all a much better situation. My question: Is JMeter loading all 3600 threads in memory, resulting in requiring that much memory and processor power? 3600 threads is rather a lot for one JMeter instance. Too many for your test plan, as you have found. Note that a single thread can generate a much higher load than a single user, as JMeter can issue requests much faster than a user clicking links. Thanks, Abel -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/3600-Threads-with-a-rampup-of-3600-seconds--tp18363108p18363108.html Sent from the JMeter - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3600 Threads with a rampup of 3600 seconds?
Peter and Sebb, Thanks for your reply. How would you emulate: "During peak hours we get a maximum of 3600 requests per hour." and "Each step in the sales process may cost a maximum of 1 second" I think the second request is not possible to emulate, as it depends on the webserver and traffic on the Internet, not on JMeter. The transaction I need to test consists of 6 pages. Different pages where you need to fill in personal data. Compare it with entering your personal data when you buy something at Amazon. Should I add "think" time at each page, so the "user" I emulate has the time to enter information? 10 Seconds per page where you need to enter something? That makes a transaction time of 20 seconds (two pages where data needs to be entered). 1 Does that make 6 requests in 20 seconds? 2 Should I multiply that with 600, to get 3600 requests? or 3a Should I multiply that with 180 to get 3600 seconds? (eg repeat 180 times) and 3b Should I use 4 users (3,333) to get from 180 to 600 requests? Eventually I used 25 threads with a ramp up of 25 seconds, to be repeated indefinitely. I observed that the server had problems (response code 502) responding to the load. Abel sebb-2-2 wrote: > > On 09/07/2008, Abel MacAdam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Today I tried to emulate "3600 users in one hour" by making a test where >> 3600 threads where started in 3600 seconds. I observed that the load in >> one >> of my CPU's went to 100 %, and that JMeter stopped responding. >> Eventually I >> killed this process, and restarted it with 25 threads, to be started >> within >> 25 seconds, and looping forever, but now for 3600 seconds (one hour). >> Now >> the test is running, while my CPU-usage is idling at away between 2 and >> 5 %. >> At the same time I'm writing this question. So all in all a much better >> situation. >> >> My question: Is JMeter loading all 3600 threads in memory, resulting in >> requiring that much memory and processor power? >> > > 3600 threads is rather a lot for one JMeter instance. > Too many for your test plan, as you have found. > > Note that a single thread can generate a much higher load than a > single user, as JMeter can issue requests much faster than a user > clicking links. > > >> Thanks, >> Abel >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/3600-Threads-with-a-rampup-of-3600-seconds--tp18363108p18363108.html >> Sent from the JMeter - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/3600-Threads-with-a-rampup-of-3600-seconds--tp18363108p18376917.html Sent from the JMeter - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3600 Threads with a rampup of 3600 seconds?
On 09/07/2008, Abel MacAdam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > Today I tried to emulate "3600 users in one hour" by making a test where > 3600 threads where started in 3600 seconds. I observed that the load in one > of my CPU's went to 100 %, and that JMeter stopped responding. Eventually I > killed this process, and restarted it with 25 threads, to be started within > 25 seconds, and looping forever, but now for 3600 seconds (one hour). Now > the test is running, while my CPU-usage is idling at away between 2 and 5 %. > At the same time I'm writing this question. So all in all a much better > situation. > > My question: Is JMeter loading all 3600 threads in memory, resulting in > requiring that much memory and processor power? > 3600 threads is rather a lot for one JMeter instance. Too many for your test plan, as you have found. Note that a single thread can generate a much higher load than a single user, as JMeter can issue requests much faster than a user clicking links. > Thanks, > Abel > > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/3600-Threads-with-a-rampup-of-3600-seconds--tp18363108p18363108.html > Sent from the JMeter - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3600 Threads with a rampup of 3600 seconds?
if you don't set a ramp up time, jmeter will try to create all threads when the test starts. in general, having 3600 threads isn't necessary to simulate 3600 users in one hour. What matters is the number of page views and hits per second on the webserver. It's better to try to simulate the requests/second or pageviews/second. 3600 users that view 1 page every 5 minutes is different than 200 users viewing 10 pages ever 2 minutes. As a general rule, once you know the req/second, you can calculate how many users a server can support by looking at the average requests/user/minute. peter On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Abel MacAdam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > Today I tried to emulate "3600 users in one hour" by making a test where > 3600 threads where started in 3600 seconds. I observed that the load in one > of my CPU's went to 100 %, and that JMeter stopped responding. Eventually I > killed this process, and restarted it with 25 threads, to be started within > 25 seconds, and looping forever, but now for 3600 seconds (one hour). Now > the test is running, while my CPU-usage is idling at away between 2 and 5 %. > At the same time I'm writing this question. So all in all a much better > situation. > > My question: Is JMeter loading all 3600 threads in memory, resulting in > requiring that much memory and processor power? > > Thanks, > Abel > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/3600-Threads-with-a-rampup-of-3600-seconds--tp18363108p18363108.html > Sent from the JMeter - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3600 Threads with a rampup of 3600 seconds?
Hi, Today I tried to emulate "3600 users in one hour" by making a test where 3600 threads where started in 3600 seconds. I observed that the load in one of my CPU's went to 100 %, and that JMeter stopped responding. Eventually I killed this process, and restarted it with 25 threads, to be started within 25 seconds, and looping forever, but now for 3600 seconds (one hour). Now the test is running, while my CPU-usage is idling at away between 2 and 5 %. At the same time I'm writing this question. So all in all a much better situation. My question: Is JMeter loading all 3600 threads in memory, resulting in requiring that much memory and processor power? Thanks, Abel -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/3600-Threads-with-a-rampup-of-3600-seconds--tp18363108p18363108.html Sent from the JMeter - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]