Re: [Jmol-users] Calculate structure results

2011-03-04 Thread Karl Oberholser
Beta in parentheses may be ok.  I was so focused on beta turns that I did
not stop and consider what the presence of the parentheses would mean.

Another issue with color is with hydrogen bonds of beta sheets.  Presently
these hydrogen bonds come in two colors.  The colors document only shows
one.

>>> "Angel Herráez"  03/04/11 2:24 PM >>>
> OK, bad assumption on my part. I was assuming it was identifying beta
turns. The Colors document on the 
> Jmol site does indicate blue for beta turn.


My fault. So we should say just "turns", right? Will do that
Aha, that's why I put beta in parentheses last time!


* strand   [255,200,0]  FFC800 
(*) turn [96,128,255]6080FF 


:-)
  

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Re: [Jmol-users] Really Ugly Windows Firefox Issue

2011-03-04 Thread Otis Rothenberger
Angel-
Thanks for the information. I'll try to update now. I don't think an update 
3.6.15 was expected. I think the next update was supposed to be 4.
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From: "Angel Herráez" 
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I just got notice of the latest upgrade:




What's New in Firefox 3.6.15



Firefox 3.6.15 fixes the following issues found in previous versions of Firefox 
3.6:



* Fixed an issue where some Java applets would fail to load in Firefox 
3.6.14




It works now! Two page reloads, no problem in the applet.






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Re: [Jmol-users] Really Ugly Windows Firefox Issue

2011-03-04 Thread Angel Herráez
I just got notice of the latest upgrade:


What´s New in Firefox 3.6.15

Firefox 3.6.15 fixes the following issues found in previous versions of Firefox 
3.6:

* Fixed an issue where some Java applets would fail to load in Firefox 
3.6.14


It works now! Two page reloads, no problem in the applet.



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Re: [Jmol-users] Calculate structure results

2011-03-04 Thread Angel Herráez
> OK, bad assumption on my part. I was assuming it was identifying beta turns. 
> The Colors document on the
> Jmol site does indicate blue for beta turn.

My fault. So we should say just "turns", right? Will do that
Aha, that's why I put beta in parentheses last time!

 strand [255,200,0] FFC800
() turn [96,128,255]6080FF

:-)

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Re: [Jmol-users] Calculate structure results

2011-03-04 Thread Karl Oberholser
OK, bad assumption on my part.  I was assuming it was identifying beta turns.  
The Colors document on the Jmol site does indicate blue for beta turn.

Karl


>>> Robert Hanson  03/03/11 8:18 PM >>>
Karl,

Here's the report for 2mhr according to DSSP,  which we are using now for 
Jmol's standard structure calculation. Wouldn't surprise me at all if a turn is 
3, 4, or 5 residues -- that's the nature of them in DSSP. 

SUMMARY:
G : A:12_A:14
H : A:19_A:37
H : A:41_A:64
T : A:65_A:66
T : A:68_A:69
H : A:70_A:85
T : A:86_A:86
H : A:93_A:109
T : A:110_A:110
G : A:111_A:114
T : A:115_A:117

and attached details. The various kinds of turns in DSSP are probably not all 
beta turns by that definition, because they can be from 4 to 6 residues:

>33<
>444<
><

And if parts of them overlap with other structural forms, they will show up as 
being shorter than their usual length (see attached listing).

I'll be surprised if you can find an error vis-a-vis DSSP. I think we have a 
very solid implementation of that. 


Bob 


On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Karl Oberholser  wrote:
Hi All,

I have recently discovered what I think is erroneous output for turns when 
using calculate structure.  Beta turns contain four residues, but the segments 
that are colored blue after using calculate structure are from two to five 
residues long.  Some of the ones that are three and five residues contain a 
hydrogen bond between the residues expected for a beta turn.  It appears that 
some turns are being marked short by one residue and others are long by a 
residue.  I get these results using the application with 12.0.34 and on 
Proteopedia by adding 
'?JMOLJAR=http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-12/JmolAppletSigned0.jar'
 to the page url.  It occurs with myohemerythrin (2mhr.pdb) and domain 2 of 
chain a of glycogen phosphorylase.

Karl





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Re: [Jmol-users] Calculate structure results

2011-03-04 Thread gilleain torrance
Hi,

Furthermore:

On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Robert Hanson  wrote:
> T : A:65_A:66
An R-L nest that is part of a Schellmann loop

> T : A:68_A:69
A type I beta-turn

> T : A:86_A:86
A type I turn (also a niche3/4 bound to a water)

> T : A:110_A:110
Hmmm. Not a turn. Looks like the helix from 93-113 is being bent out
of shape by the metal-binding residues.

> T : A:115_A:117
A type II turn overlapping an L-R nest bound to Tyr-18 phenol OH.

So, yes, most of these are turns. I would add that I have no doubt
Jmol has a correct DSSP implementation, and that DSSP generally gets
it right. However, I'm not fond of the idea of 3 and 5 residue beta
turns, but that is inevitable when there is overlap between structure,
and you have to compress it into a single 'sequence' like
"...TT...".

gilleain

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Re: [Jmol-users] Help with surfaces

2011-03-04 Thread Eduardo Oliveira
Hi Bob,

Actually i didn't generate this .cos files, so i don't know if it was used
the .mol file and , therefore, i don't know if they were supposed to match.
But i think for my purpouse it would be easier to avoid creating a .jvxl
file, since i can use the function loadCosmo and it works. I would like to
know how to load those commands of the function without opening the console,
i want, once the .mol is loaded, the surface to open along with it, if it is
possible. I'm sending the Java class i created attached.


JmolTable.java
Description: Binary data


JmolLoadCompound.java
Description: Binary data
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Re: [Jmol-users] Newbie question: showing a docked receptor-ligand model (applet)

2011-03-04 Thread aristegui
Thank you very mucho for your help!

> The difficulty is defining the atoms involved in the receptor...showing
> bonds and ribbons in the entire protein is quite easy:
>
> select protein; cartoon on;
>
> The ligand will display initially as bonds and atoms. I suspect this isn't
> what you want :-) Here's script for displaying bonds and atoms only
> within,
> say, 6 Angstroms of the ligand(s):
>
> select protein; cartoon only; select within(6.0,ligand);wireframe 60;
> spacefill 100;
>
> and if you're interested only in displaying sidechains:
>
> select protein; cartoon only; select within(6.0,ligand) and
> sidechain;wireframe 60; spacefill 100;
>
> You can save that script to a .spt file for easy retrieval elsewhere (and
> easy updating, if your fancy changes later), or you can just copy and
> paste
> it in the second argument of jmolApplet, just after "load
> 1.1_1.1_1__receptor.pdb."
>
> Cheers, Mike
>
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:17 AM,  wrote:
>
>> Hello, i would like to find examples about how to define default values
>> for a receptor-ligand model (pdb format).
>>
>> 
>>jmolApplet(400, "load 1.1_1.1_1__receptor.pdb");
>> 
>>
>> For us is useful to load the applet showing "ribbons" and "bonds" for
>> the
>> receptor and "bonds" only for the ligand.
>>
>> Are any available Jmol example settings with receptor-ligand models?
>> Thank you.
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