Re: [Jmol-users] Java support in browsers
Correction: On 4/6/17 5:58 PM, Eric Martz wrote: > Windows 10: Firefox ESR, Pale Moon, Seamonkey, Maxthon (but see > caution about data sent to China by Maxthon at above link). I can't > test Waterfox because I don't have 64-bit Windows. The correction is that Firefox ESR in Windows runs both the Jmol_S Java applet and JSmol from local files. -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
Re: [Jmol-users] Java support in browsers
Thanks, Henry! I did not know about unchecking "Run in safe mode" (hidden unless you hold down the option key). After doing that, I can run Jmol_S Java applet from local files (FirstGlance in Jmol) in Safari, which is convenient for testing while developing. We list browsers that still support Java here: http://proteopedia.org/w/Installing_and_enabling_Java#Browsers_That_Support_Java Those that will run Jmol_S Java applet from local files are: OS X: Waterfox, Seamonkey, Safari (fussy to configure, see above). Firefox ESR (see above link) maybe -- my system is unreliable for testing this for idiosyncratic reasons. Windows 10: Pale Moon, Seamonkey, Maxthon (but see caution about data sent to China by Maxthon at above link). I can't test Waterfox or Firefox ESR because I don't have 64-bit Windows. All browsers that will run Jmol_S/Java applet from local files will also run JSmol from local files, with the exception of Maxthon. Best regards, Eric On 4/6/17 9:38 AM, Rzepa, Henry S wrote: Apologies if my post-tracking is not up to scratch. I have been silently grappling with Java security policies on my own routine browser Safari. This browser, including the “Safari technology preview”, the latest version of which was released only yesterday, still support the browser plugin API. Each host does have to be individually enabled, and more than that it has to be set to run in “safe mode” if Java requires read/write access from local user directories. But having done that it is still supported, even in the future-looking technology preview version. I have documented it here for our own local use:https://wiki.ch.ic.ac.uk/wiki/index.php?title=It:jmol On 29 Mar 2017, at 20:59, Angel Herráez wrote: (I'm following another thread started by David Hibbitts but this is a different topic, so I changed the subject) David, May I ask what is the information you have regarding future support of Java by Waterfox? On 29 Mar 2017 at 15:14, David Hibbitts wrote: It's hard to know how much any of us should invest in these java-specific issues given the aggressive nature of browsers toward javascript -- but my website really serves my research group, not the general public, and there I can certainly get the users to install Waterfox+JAVA. --- El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electrónico en busca de virus. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org!http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org!http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
Re: [Jmol-users] Java support in browsers
Apologies if my post-tracking is not up to scratch. I have been silently grappling with Java security policies on my own routine browser Safari. This browser, including the “Safari technology preview”, the latest version of which was released only yesterday, still support the browser plugin API. Each host does have to be individually enabled, and more than that it has to be set to run in “safe mode” if Java requires read/write access from local user directories. But having done that it is still supported, even in the future-looking technology preview version. I have documented it here for our own local use: https://wiki.ch.ic.ac.uk/wiki/index.php?title=It:jmol > On 29 Mar 2017, at 20:59, Angel Herráez wrote: > > (I'm following another thread started by David Hibbitts but this is a > different > topic, so I changed the subject) > > David, > May I ask what is the information you have regarding future support of Java > by Waterfox? > > > On 29 Mar 2017 at 15:14, David Hibbitts wrote: >> It's hard to know how much any of us should invest in these java-specific >> issues given the aggressive nature of browsers toward javascript -- >> but my website really serves my research group, not the general public, and >> there I can certainly get the users to install Waterfox+JAVA. > > > --- > El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electrónico en busca > de virus. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > -- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > Jmol-users mailing list > Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
Re: [Jmol-users] Java support in browsers
I don't have any *insider* information of any kind, but their "About" page seems pretty clear that they're in favor of allowing users to use Java and any other plugins if they wish. Also revealing is this page from their blog: https://www.waterfoxproject.org/blog/waterfox-52.0-release-download which indicates that the project may soon fork and only get security updates from now on (because of a major structural change that Firefox is introducing). Anyways, on that page they also list NPAPI support as part of the feature-set of Waterfox, so hopefully that doesn't change any time soon. It doesn't need to last forever, at some stage the performance differences between jsmol and jmol will be negligible for all but the largest structures on modern computers. On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Angel Herráez wrote: > (I'm following another thread started by David Hibbitts but this is a > different > topic, so I changed the subject) > > David, > May I ask what is the information you have regarding future support of Java > by Waterfox? > > > On 29 Mar 2017 at 15:14, David Hibbitts wrote: > > It's hard to know how much any of us should invest in these > java-specific issues given the aggressive nature of browsers toward > javascript -- > > but my website really serves my research group, not the general public, > and there I can certainly get the users to install Waterfox+JAVA. > > > --- > El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electrónico en > busca de virus. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
[Jmol-users] Java support in browsers
(I'm following another thread started by David Hibbitts but this is a different topic, so I changed the subject) David, May I ask what is the information you have regarding future support of Java by Waterfox? On 29 Mar 2017 at 15:14, David Hibbitts wrote: > It's hard to know how much any of us should invest in these java-specific > issues given the aggressive nature of browsers toward javascript -- > but my website really serves my research group, not the general public, and > there I can certainly get the users to install Waterfox+JAVA. --- El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electrónico en busca de virus. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
