Re: redundant telecommute posts
Hi, is there no moderator for the jobs list? - Gergely On 13 August 2014 06:24, Uri Guttman wrote: > hi all, > > this may not be important but shutterstock is posting many times with the > same job in different cities but they are all telecommute. it feels like a > way around the restriction on posting the same job too often. does it really > matter that the job is listed in many different cities if they all > telecommute to the office in nyc? any thoughts on this? i know the main hr > person there and i could write to him and ask to stop this reposting. > > thanx, > > uri > > -- > Uri Guttman - The Perl Hunter > The Best Perl Jobs, The Best Perl Hackers > http://PerlHunter.com
Re: redundant telecommute posts
That behavior does seem strange considering that the location field is freeform, its not like they have to specify a city, so I'd wonder why they don't just post once and day "anywhere in X large area" that they allow. -- Darren Duncan On 2014-08-12, 9:24 PM, Uri Guttman wrote: hi all, this may not be important but shutterstock is posting many times with the same job in different cities but they are all telecommute. it feels like a way around the restriction on posting the same job too often. does it really matter that the job is listed in many different cities if they all telecommute to the office in nyc? any thoughts on this? i know the main hr person there and i could write to him and ask to stop this reposting. thanx, uri
Re: redundant telecommute posts
A remote contractor out of columbus for shutterstock here. Those are probably cities where they have remote workers already, and they are specifically targeting more. I know for me, its easier to talk to local peers if it says Columbus in the job description. Whether it's appropriate for this list is another question. But not a pure recruiter spam tactic. There is some reason behind it. On Wednesday, August 13, 2014, Darren Duncan wrote: > That behavior does seem strange considering that the location field is > freeform, its not like they have to specify a city, so I'd wonder why they > don't just post once and day "anywhere in X large area" that they allow. -- > Darren Duncan > > On 2014-08-12, 9:24 PM, Uri Guttman wrote: > >> hi all, >> >> this may not be important but shutterstock is posting many times with the >> same >> job in different cities but they are all telecommute. it feels like a way >> around >> the restriction on posting the same job too often. does it really matter >> that >> the job is listed in many different cities if they all telecommute to the >> office >> in nyc? any thoughts on this? i know the main hr person there and i could >> write >> to him and ask to stop this reposting. >> >> thanx, >> >> uri >> >> >
Re: redundant telecommute posts
On 08/13/2014 05:05 AM, Jonathan Hogue wrote: A remote contractor out of columbus for shutterstock here. Those are probably cities where they have remote workers already, and they are specifically targeting more. I know for me, its easier to talk to local peers if it says Columbus in the job description. Whether it's appropriate for this list is another question. But not a pure recruiter spam tactic. There is some reason behind it. do they have an office in columbus? the reason i see is just to get more posts out for the same job listing. there is a rule about not repeating job posts too often and this skirts the rule. they could list every city in the country and post dozens of times each day. in this current batch of posts, they sent in 6 for the same job. not only is it redundant, it can crowd out other single job postings. thanx, uri -- Uri Guttman - The Perl Hunter The Best Perl Jobs, The Best Perl Hackers http://PerlHunter.com
Re: redundant telecommute posts
> do they have an office in columbus? Not yet. We're close. When they get enough people in the same city, they tend to open an office. (As they did in San Francisco, Denver, Berlin). There are 3 right now. They are reasonable people. I'm sure they'll post differently if the list wants them to. But also, the separate listings aren't without merit. They are targeting those cities specifically, and they list the jobs on their site and other job boards the same way. But seriously, if the consensus is that the list doesn't want them to do that, I'd be happy to bring it up. On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 5:24 AM, Uri Guttman wrote: > On 08/13/2014 05:05 AM, Jonathan Hogue wrote: >> >> A remote contractor out of columbus for shutterstock here. >> >> Those are probably cities where they have remote workers already, and >> they are specifically targeting more. >> >> I know for me, its easier to talk to local peers if it says Columbus in >> the job description. Whether it's appropriate for this list is another >> question. >> >> But not a pure recruiter spam tactic. There is some reason behind it. > > > do they have an office in columbus? the reason i see is just to get more > posts out for the same job listing. there is a rule about not repeating job > posts too often and this skirts the rule. they could list every city in the > country and post dozens of times each day. in this current batch of posts, > they sent in 6 for the same job. not only is it redundant, it can crowd out > other single job postings. > > > thanx, > > uri > > -- > Uri Guttman - The Perl Hunter > The Best Perl Jobs, The Best Perl Hackers > http://PerlHunter.com
Re: redundant telecommute posts
My vote is once and only once On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 5:32 AM, Jonathan Hogue wrote: > > do they have an office in columbus? > > Not yet. We're close. When they get enough people in the same city, > they tend to open an office. (As they did in San Francisco, Denver, > Berlin). There are 3 right now. > > They are reasonable people. I'm sure they'll post differently if the > list wants them to. But also, the separate listings aren't without > merit. They are targeting those cities specifically, and they list the > jobs on their site and other job boards the same way. > > But seriously, if the consensus is that the list doesn't want them to > do that, I'd be happy to bring it up. > > On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 5:24 AM, Uri Guttman wrote: > > On 08/13/2014 05:05 AM, Jonathan Hogue wrote: > >> > >> A remote contractor out of columbus for shutterstock here. > >> > >> Those are probably cities where they have remote workers already, and > >> they are specifically targeting more. > >> > >> I know for me, its easier to talk to local peers if it says Columbus in > >> the job description. Whether it's appropriate for this list is another > >> question. > >> > >> But not a pure recruiter spam tactic. There is some reason behind it. > > > > > > do they have an office in columbus? the reason i see is just to get more > > posts out for the same job listing. there is a rule about not repeating > job > > posts too often and this skirts the rule. they could list every city in > the > > country and post dozens of times each day. in this current batch of > posts, > > they sent in 6 for the same job. not only is it redundant, it can crowd > out > > other single job postings. > > > > > > thanx, > > > > uri > > > > -- > > Uri Guttman - The Perl Hunter > > The Best Perl Jobs, The Best Perl Hackers > > http://PerlHunter.com >
Re: redundant telecommute posts
On Aug 13, 2014, at 2:24, Uri Guttman wrote: > do they have an office in columbus? the reason i see is just to get more > posts out for the same job listing. there is a rule about not repeating job > posts too often and this skirts the rule. It's a grey area and we do our best to keep it balanced. We don't have rules as much as just "does this seem right?". I agree that those repeated postings maybe were a bit much, but ShutterStock have been posting for a long time and have a good track record of using the site responsibly, as it were. Most of the noise, in my opinion, are from recruiters in particular in London and New York. Ask
Re: redundant telecommute posts
On 08/13/2014 01:58 PM, Ask Bjørn Hansen wrote: On Aug 13, 2014, at 2:24, Uri Guttman wrote: do they have an office in columbus? the reason i see is just to get more posts out for the same job listing. there is a rule about not repeating job posts too often and this skirts the rule. It's a grey area and we do our best to keep it balanced. We don't have rules as much as just "does this seem right?". I agree that those repeated postings maybe were a bit much, but ShutterStock have been posting for a long time and have a good track record of using the site responsibly, as it were. that is ok if they don't overload too often. this was 6 posts at the same time to different cities. Most of the noise, in my opinion, are from recruiters in particular in London and New York. i gather eligo is the london one but they do post different jobs so that is ok by me. i haven't tracked if they repost too often. thanx, uri -- Uri Guttman - The Perl Hunter The Best Perl Jobs, The Best Perl Hackers http://PerlHunter.com
