Planned removal of JavaScript API of JOSM configuration XML files
Hi all, due to the planned removal of the JavaScript engine Nashorn from Java [1], we have to take action. Nashorn was in use for three features of JOSM core: 1. opening_hours validator based on opening_hours.js [2] 2. overpass-wizard (in download dialog) [3] 3. JavaScript API of JOSM configuration XML files [4] Item 1 has been resolved by migrating to OpeningHoursParser written by Simon Poole for Vespucci. [5] For item 2, we plan to use a hosted service (likely on the JOSM server) for turning user input into Overpass Queries. [6] For item 3, we don't see a viable alternative. We plan to remove this feature with the next JOSM release unless someone steps up with a killer-user-case and migration plan Thanks for reading and happy mapping, Simon (simon04) [1] https://openjdk.java.net/jeps/335 [2] https://github.com/opening-hours/opening_hours.js [3] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Action/Download#DownloadfromOverpassAPI [4] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Preferences/ImportExport#JavaScriptAPI [5] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/18140 [6] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/18164 [7] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/18830
Re: JOSM developers meetup at Karlsruhe?
Hi all, I'm planning to come as well … Really looking forward to meeting you in person! Simon On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 10:36 PM Vincent Privat wrote: > > Hello, > I was thinking for quite some time about setting up a meeting between JOSM > developers somewhere in Germany (for convenience). > As Christine and Frederik are inviting OSM developers to Karlsruhe on > October 20th-21st, I just registered myself! > Would other team members be interested? I'd love to meet everyone in person! > As for JOSM projects/activities for this hack week-end, there are plenty of > them to work on, it will depend on who's there :) > Cheers, > Vincent
Re: Google Summer of Code 2018: JOSM-wikipedia (+wikidata)
Hi! On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 2:56 PM, Florian Schäferwrote: > As a project I picked the wikipedia plugin for JOSM and improving Wikidata > support in it [1]. As the original author of the wikipedia plugin, I'm very happy that this plugin is part of GSoC. Thank you in advance for your efforts in enhancing and improving this plugin! > Would it be ok, if I removed the wikipedia plugin from the SVN and use git > for version control, at least for the time of > the GSoC? Sure. If it were up to me, the plugin can happily stay on GitHub after the GSoC project. Also feel free to use/setup Transifex for translations of this plugin. It's great to see this plugin gaining fresh momentum! When completely migrating to Git/GitHub, the SVN import could/should be done again using an authors-file to get the real user names and mail addresses for the commits. Regards from Austria, Simon
Re: Github mirror not updated
Hi all, the mirror is up again. See https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/6887#comment:16 for details. Feel free to reopen https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/6887 whenever there are problems with the JOSM GitHub mirror. Simon On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 12:40 AM, Simon Legner <simon.leg...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I run the mirror. The script is located here: > https://github.com/simon04/josm-mirror and see > https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/6887 for earlier problems. > > The cause for the current broken-ness is: > $ git svn rebase > Checksum mismatch: src/org/openstreetmap/josm/data/coor/EastNorth.java > 77fca040915bef6c6fd77e43c35d952c684b9d3d > expected: e3c9169bad42e3154887b60a20bbea8b > got: da2689e0e3989a6c2bc5b5449ad570eb > > I'll try to resolve this asap (tomorrow evening?). > > Simon > > > On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 8:32 PM, Wiktor Niesiobedzki <o...@vink.pl> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> It looks like GitHub mirror of OSM is not updated any more. Last >> update was on 21st of October. >> >> What needs to be done to bring this service up? >> >> Or shall I just setup my own sync service with my JOSM GitHub mirror? >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Wiktor >> >> ___ >> josm-dev mailing list >> josm-dev@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: 16.10 release
Hi all, version 11223 has been released as tested version today. For the changelog see [1]. On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouskiwrote: > Looking at calendar, this should become 16.11 already. We use YY.MM as milestones names to internally track development (no millisecond accuracy is presumed here). Releases are named according to the SVN revision numbers. Simon [1] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Changelog#stable-release-16.10 ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: Github mirror not updated
Hi, I run the mirror. The script is located here: https://github.com/simon04/josm-mirror and see https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/6887 for earlier problems. The cause for the current broken-ness is: $ git svn rebase Checksum mismatch: src/org/openstreetmap/josm/data/coor/EastNorth.java 77fca040915bef6c6fd77e43c35d952c684b9d3d expected: e3c9169bad42e3154887b60a20bbea8b got: da2689e0e3989a6c2bc5b5449ad570eb I'll try to resolve this asap (tomorrow evening?). Simon On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 8:32 PM, Wiktor Niesiobedzkiwrote: > Hi, > > It looks like GitHub mirror of OSM is not updated any more. Last > update was on 21st of October. > > What needs to be done to bring this service up? > > Or shall I just setup my own sync service with my JOSM GitHub mirror? > > > Cheers, > > Wiktor > > ___ > josm-dev mailing list > josm-dev@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: Using CachedFile class for /data/help-browser.css in HelpBrowser class
Hi Sebastiaan, the proposed change makes sense. I'm happy to commit it once a JOSM ticket has been created (for reference). Note that you can also use `CachedFile#getContentReader` to obtain a `BufferedReader`. Regards, Simon On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Sebastiaan Couwenbergwrote: > Today an issue was reported for the josm Debian package about the Help > menu option causing an exception. [0] This turned out to be caused by > help-browser.css being moved out of the jar for the Debian package. > > Most code uses the CachedFile class to access embedded resources in jar, > and I wonder if the HelpBrowser shouldn't do so too. This would simplify > the patch included in the Debian package, and increase consistency in > the JOSM code. > > If there is interest for the above I'll forward the relevant changes [1] > for JOSM trunk in a Trac ticket. > > [0] https://bugs.debian.org/838247 > [1] > https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-grass/josm.git/tree/debian/patches/06-move_data_out_of_jar.patch#n70 > > Kind Regards, > > Bas > > -- > GPG Key ID: 4096R/6750F10AE88D4AF1 > Fingerprint: 8182 DE41 7056 408D 6146 50D1 6750 F10A E88D 4AF1 > > ___ > josm-dev mailing list > josm-dev@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: How to make josm-mapillary-plugin git-only?
Hi Florian, I don't see disadvantages when a plugin moving from http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/editors/josm/plugins to https://github.com/JOSM as long as it is added as svn:externals to the original SVN repository (mainly for I18n updates and breaking core changes). Run `svn propget svn:externals http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/editors/josm/plugins` to see other plugins managed in this respect. For distributing the compiled plugin, there are different approached: Plugins like continuosDownload and tofix still commit the jar files to http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/editors/josm/dist, whereas shapetools uses GitHub releases https://github.com/JOSM/ShapeTools/releases and https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/PluginsSource Cheers, Simon On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Florian Schäferwrote: > Hi everybody, > I'm one of the maintainers of the josm-mapillary-plugin and we are currently > considering to remove that plugin from the SVN-repo and host it on GitHub > only. > Currently we are developing using git and then sync with the SVN-repo using > git-svn. Because nobody of us really needs SVN, it just adds complication to > the workflow without much benefit. > > The DevelopersGuide for plugins states several disadvantages of hosting code > and JARs externally. But then it also states, that it's not as bad if the > plugin is developed in the JOSM account. Which of the listed disadvantages > would still hold true and which wouldn't? > Are there any extra steps needed except transferring the repo to the > JOSM-account and deleting the directory and JAR from the SVN-repo? > > Cheers, > Florian ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: Taginfo projects file errors
Hi! > Just notices some other small errors: This file > https://josm.openstreetmap.de/download/taginfo/taginfo_external_presets.json > contains the keys "cicleway:segregated" and "cicleway:foot" which look like > typos to me. Also "traffic_sign,traffic_sign:forward,traffic_sign:backward" > as one key. That is probably meant to be three keys. These issues come from the external traffic_signs_preset_JOSM – I created a ticket: https://github.com/yopaseopor/traffic_signs_preset_JOSM/issues/9 Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Skip milestone 16.03?
Hi, On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 12:48 AM, Vincent Privatwrote: > For all these reasons I propose to skip 16.03 and release the new tested > end of April (which could be the last Java 7 version by the way). Sounds good to me. I also spent little time on JOSM development … Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] JOSM 9900 released
Hi all, on 2016-02-28 Vincent released version 9900 of JOSM. Now, one week after follows the announcement. Containing 571 commits, this is the largest release in the history of JOSM [1]. Major enhancements, as displayed on the startpage of JOSM, are: - Drag & Drop support for the relation editor - New button in relation editor to refresh the relation (e.g. after splitting a way) - The History dialog shows the old and new coordinates of a moved node on a map - Automatic snap zoom to default resolution of background - Extended support of different projections There are many more less prominent changes. Check out the nicely summarized changelog at [2]. Thanks to all for their development, documentation updates, issue housekeeping, translations, and other contributions! Note: the switch to OAuth as default authentication mechanism revealed a bug causing the fully-automatic process to fail when using JOSM on Windows via Java Web Start [3]. Very likely, the bug has been around since 2010 and remained undetected until very recently. In case you are affected, try the semi-automatic mode or switch back to the Basic authentication [4]. Regards, Simon (simon04) [1] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/DevelopersGuide/Schedule [2] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Changelog#stable-release-16.02 [3] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/12584 [4] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Preferences/Connection#AuthenticationSettings ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] IPv6 problems
Hi all, what about an expert (for now) option (such as prefer.ipv6=jvm) to disable JOSM's algorithm completely and solely rely on the JVM to figure out the correct way to connect to a server? According to [1] … > IPv6 in Java is transparent and automatic. Porting is not necessary; there is > no need to recompile source files. if that turns out not to be sufficient, there's little we can do w/o relying on more advanced HTTP clients. Simon [1] https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/technotes/guides/net/ipv6_guide/ ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] IPv6 problems
On Sat, Jan 2, 2016 at 11:26 PM, Simon Legner <simon.leg...@gmail.com> wrote: > what about an expert (for now) option (such as prefer.ipv6=jvm) to > disable JOSM's algorithm completely and solely rely on the JVM to > figure out the correct way to connect to a server? I checked the code: This should already work w/o any code changes. Set `prefer.ipv6` to `jvm` (or anything different from `auto` and `true`) in the advanced preferences. If necessary, set one of the JVM system properties [1]. Good night :) [1] https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/technotes/guides/net/ipv6_guide/#ipv6-related ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] IPv6 problems
Hi! On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 12:47 AM, Florian Lohoffwrote: > There is no such thing as a on-the-fly detection. You as the application > author need to write the detection. You need robust "connect" logic > which tries ipv6 and falls back to ipv4 when the connect does not > work. The latest RFCs gives even more advice on how to work around > long delays induced by servers advertising ipv6 and not responding > to it or intermitted ipv6 problems e.g. packet loss in the v6 path. This > is the daily business for an ISP - You path are different for v4 than > for v6 so you have different latencys, paths, packet loss probabilities > etc. > So please - either fix ipv6 in JOSM by implementing the BCPs or > drop the ipv6 support completely - Currently you are breaking tons > of user setups and you actively blame ipv6 for it. I tried to find some reference implementations for the RFC6555 / Happy Eyeballs in Java – without success. None of the popular HTTP client libraries [1, 2, 3] seem to have any support for this algorithm. Instead, they seem to attempt connections sequentially to the resolved addresses [4, 5]. On GitHub I could only find two Java demo projects on the java.net.Socket level [6, 7]. Best regards, Simon [1] https://github.com/apache/httpclient [2] https://github.com/eclipse/jetty.project [3] https://github.com/square/okhttp/issues/506 [4] https://github.com/apache/httpclient/blob/be46d7fd93c7e3e576d739bb3ef40f4d2cf5e491/httpclient/src/main/java/org/apache/http/impl/conn/DefaultHttpClientConnectionOperator.java#L97-L171 [5] https://github.com/eclipse/jetty.project/blob/915a905df4dc19234938111095ea659b5deae5ce/jetty-client/src/main/java/org/eclipse/jetty/client/HttpClient.java#L538-L580 [6] https://github.com/ecki/IPv6Con/blob/master/src/main/java/net/eckenfels/ipv6con/SampleHappyEyeballs.java [7] https://github.com/guinamen/Java-Happy-Eyeballs ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] JOSM 8800 released
Hi all, yesterday we released the September stable release of JOSM as version 8800. Among many other things, the Overpass download has been integrated into JOSM core and extended by an Overpass Turbo wizard which helps to generate queries, a history of queries as well as a proper reporting of syntax and timeout errors. Fore more changes visit the changelog [1]. Cheers, Simon [2] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Changelog#stable-release-15.09 ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] josm.osm.de: No space left on device
Hi, it seems that the JOSM server is running out of disk space: https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ shows the error > OperationalError: could not write block 1 of temporary file: No space left on > device > HINT: Perhaps out of disk space? Thanks in advance … Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] regular expression for Filtering a Node-tag with brackets
Hi! On Monday 11 May 2015 12:54:22 Möller, Matthias wrote: So it seems the brackes and my filterexpression seem to be the problem. But I check with reg-exp solver and my expression semms to be fine. Is there another trick for JOSM? First note that for need to quote the name since it contains spaces: name=Berlin, Stuthirtenweg (1) Otherwise, it is considered as (name=Berlin,) Stuthirtenweg (1) Secondly, you need two backslashes each for quoting the parenthesis: name=Berlin, Stuthirtenweg \\(1\\) Since the backslashes is used as escape character. Cheers, Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] JOSM Search question
Hi, try child(2) Thanks. child(3) seems to do what I want. ;-) I created a ticket https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/11351 and fixed it in r8220: Search: add `ways:` to search for nodes with specified number of referring ways, or relations containing specified number of ways; modify `nodes:` to search also for relations containing specified number of nodes Cheers, Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] New JOSM Maps database feature
Hi Dirk! This feature is really nice and seems helpful to inspect some imagery without the need of an editor. - Type wms is not yet supported. I need to write JavaScript code which is able to use JOSM URL and Tiled-WMS method with OpenLayers. Help to fix the first two of above issues welcome. If someone makes an example in JavaScript, I'll implement it in the server code. See https://gist.github.com/11109048 for a working example (tested in Chrome, Opera) based on the Geoimage.at WMS. This works as follows: The WMS URL is parsed, everything between the protocol and pathname part is used as the corresponding OL-URL. Additional parameters are parsed and a preselected list (namely LAYERS, KEY (for Geoimage.at key), MAP (for mapserver WMS), STYLES, TRANSPARENT, VERSION) is given to the OL parameters object. Dirk, I hope this is helpful for your server side implementation. Cheers, Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] NAIP Imagery Servers -- Need Assistance Setting Up in JOSM
Hi Kristen, the following works for me: * Menu Imagery * Imagery Preferences * Add WMS * Enter http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/services/NAIP/Alabama_2013_1m_NC/ImageServer/WMSServer?request=GetCapabilitiesservice=WMS (obtained from clicking at the first item from http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP and then copy the link from WMS) * Select the layer Alabama_2013_1m_NC * Select image/jpeg (tiff doesn't seem to work) * OK, OK * Add the layer using the imagery menu Cheers, Simon On 24/03/14 18:26, Kam, Kristen -(p) wrote: (cross-listed with JOSM-Dev Talk-US) Morning, The other week, I came across the directory of USDA's WMS NAIP Image Services (by state). QGIS renders the images with no problem, but it appears to fail in JOSM. I mentioned my difficulty to a fellow OSMer and he suspects JOSM cannot support these WMS services. That said I was wondering if anyone could shed some light on why I cannot get images to render in JOSM (me not configuring right or no support in JOSM?!). List of Image Servers -- http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP Thanks, Kristen ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] NAIP Imagery Servers -- Need Assistance Setting Up in JOSM
Btw: since today, JOSM filters unsupported image formats, see http://josm.openstreetmap.de/changeset/6930/josm On 24/03/14 19:30, Kam, Kristen -(p) wrote: Thank you so much! The detail I missed was the image selection! Best, Kristen --- Kristen Kam OSM Profile → http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/KristenK -Original Message- From: Simon Legner [mailto:simon.leg...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 11:10 AM To: josm-devel Cc: Kam, Kristen -(p) Subject: Re: [josm-dev] NAIP Imagery Servers -- Need Assistance Setting Up in JOSM Hi Kristen, the following works for me: * Menu Imagery * Imagery Preferences * Add WMS * Enter http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/services/NAIP/Alabama_2013_1m_NC/ImageServer/WMSServer?request=GetCapabilitiesservice=WMS (obtained from clicking at the first item from http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP and then copy the link from WMS) * Select the layer Alabama_2013_1m_NC * Select image/jpeg (tiff doesn't seem to work) * OK, OK * Add the layer using the imagery menu Cheers, Simon On 24/03/14 18:26, Kam, Kristen -(p) wrote: (cross-listed with JOSM-Dev Talk-US) Morning, The other week, I came across the directory of USDA's WMS NAIP Image Services (by state). QGIS renders the images with no problem, but it appears to fail in JOSM. I mentioned my difficulty to a fellow OSMer and he suspects JOSM cannot support these WMS services. That said I was wondering if anyone could shed some light on why I cannot get images to render in JOSM (me not configuring right or no support in JOSM?!). List of Image Servers -- http://gis.apfo.usda.gov/arcgis/rest/services/NAIP Thanks, Kristen ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Request for review of plugins
Hi, On 25/02/14 12:55, Dirk Stöcker wrote: ... or fix the build-common.xml. When reading the text it tells me, that svn should fail and git be used instead. Seems your svn does not fail enough? It probably delivers something. Maybe a check is needed to detect that invalid output? Done: https://trac.openstreetmap.org/changeset/30306/subversion/ Marián, please give it a try. :-) Cheers, Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Request for review of plugins
On 26/02/14 21:58, Marián Kyral wrote: Thanks Simon. It fixes the first case (when there is a local git repository inside the plugin folder). But it still fails when there is no .git folder at all. Right, but what should be the outcome? How to determine the last change timestamp? I won't look into this issue since I do not consider building a plugin from a non-repository very important. Cheers, Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Git sync stuck
Hi Toby! On 24/02/14 08:28, Toby Murray wrote: The GitHub mirror of the JOSM SVN repo appears to not have gotten any updates in over a month. I'm not sure who runs it but could it please be kicked? We also have a Trac ticket for this issue: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/6887 @Ævar: Would you please check the mirror again. Please also check my pull request https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-mirror/pull/2 – the Evil revision hack is no longer needed due to adaption of the build file. @JOSM team: Since the mirror is apparently used frequently, we might want to to turn this unofficial mirror into an official mirror? Cheers, Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Generating new dataset
Hi! What is the correct procedure for creating primitives with IDs that do not collide with the OSM DB IDs? Maybe the quickest way is to open the dataset in JOSM, select all objects with Ctrl+A, copy them with Ctrl+C, create a new dataset with Ctrl+N, and paste the copied objects with Ctrl+V. Then, to all objects should be assigned a new ID. I tried making the IDs negative, but this causes an exception. In principle this should work. Perhaps some references between ways and nodes or relations and other objects got messed up? Cheers, Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Generating new dataset
On 18/02/14 15:41, Malcolm Herring wrote: I should have mentioned that this is a JOSM plugin doing the operation. You might find the method org.openstreetmap.josm.actions.DuplicateAction#actionPerformed helpful as starting point for further analysis to see how this is done in JOSM core. ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] MapCSS: Access properties of parent object when using the child selector
Hi Martin! On 05/02/14 11:22, Martin Vonwald wrote: Is it possible to access the properties of the parent object The function `parent_tag` should do the trick: Cheers, Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] MapCSS style: determine opacity/transparency of a color
Hi Martin! On 21/01/14 09:50, Martin Vonwald wrote: Is there any way to determine the opacity/transparency of a color in a MapCSS style? Yes, since now: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/9596 ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] Destructive SVN commit!
Hi all, while developing on JOSM, I noticed that the entire plugins/ and i18n/ directories were gone! This is due to the destructive (hopefully+presumably accidental) commit [r30196]. At the moment, I'm reverting this commit (using `svn merge -c -30196 . svn commit`), but maybe there's a cleaner solution to do this for people with SVN admin access. Cheers, Simon Legner (simon04) [r30196] https://trac.openstreetmap.org/changeset/30196/subversion ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Destructive SVN commit!
Unfortunately, my attempts fail due to svn: Commit failed (details follow): svn: [...]: Could not read status line: Connection reset by peer (http://svn.openstreetmap.org) So it would be very helpful, if someone took a look at the commit r30196. :-) Thanks in advance, Simon On 12/01/14 22:29, Simon Legner wrote: Hi all, while developing on JOSM, I noticed that the entire plugins/ and i18n/ directories were gone! This is due to the destructive (hopefully+presumably accidental) commit [r30196]. At the moment, I'm reverting this commit (using `svn merge -c -30196 . svn commit`), but maybe there's a cleaner solution to do this for people with SVN admin access. Cheers, Simon Legner (simon04) [r30196] https://trac.openstreetmap.org/changeset/30196/subversion ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] source on changeset
Hi Jo! On 02/01/14 00:07, Jo wrote: Is there an xml tag one could use to indicate it is 'source' data? Yes, there is. Funnily I have answered this question in another context today, see http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/6471#comment:4 Cheers, Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] source on changeset
On 02/01/14 00:07, Jo wrote: My imagery layers don't have suitable names anyway and the layer I'm using as a source, is an .osm layer (one I created with a Python script). Is there an xml tag one could use to indicate it is 'source' data? I created a ticket since that is easier to discuss there's a reference for a commit: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/9510 Cheers, Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Terracer Plugin
Hi, Anybody have any ideas what could be wrong with it? I cannot reproduce the problem when installing the terracer plugin. Are you using an old terracer version? Please try again with the current version. If the problem persists, please open a ticket in Trac and attach the command line output. Cheers, Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Relation editor support for north/south and east/west similar to forward/backward
Hi! On 16/12/13 23:59, Martijn van Exel wrote: Can you give me some more guidance for where to look for the classes that would need to be modified? A good starting point might be a search for forward (including marks) in the codebase of JOSM. Cheers, Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Cardinal Directions Changes
Hi Jon! If possible, please respond to previous messages to keep them nicely threaded in mail programs / list archives. On 20/12/13 16:58, Locke, Jonathan wrote: Anyway, before the OSM community considers accepting this information, it has a quite reasonable expectation that JOSM should fully support cardinal directions so people can work with them. I'm just trying to figure out exactly what that support would entail so I can implement it. Usually, it is the other way round: JOSM supports those features and mapping techniques that are commonly used by the mappers. In my impression, north/south/… is quite different from forward/backward. Most of JOSM's handling of the roles forward/backward related to determining in which way those ways are traversed by the specific bus/train/* routes, and sorting the relation members accordingly. These aspects seem trivial to me for north/south/… since all relation members are oneways and only traversed in that direction. Btw: the newer public transport scheme basically deprecated forward/backward in favour of separate relations per direction. How does the US highway mapping relate to this scheme? Cheers, Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Generate plug-in version
Hi! On 23/11/13 11:25, Dirk Brünig wrote: The file format is UTF8. The file format of MANIFEST.MF is also UTF8 but the text is not. Did some one knows what is wrong with my Eclipse project. I don't see a problem in the current Tracer2.jar in the SVN repository. When viewing the MANIFEST.MF in UTF-8, the names are shown correctly. I also add a line to the wiki page. property name=plugin.link value=http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/Tracer2/ But the plug-in page was not updated. They it should be updated every 10 minutes. So what is wrong here. After changing and committing a change, make sure to `svn up`, before generating the JAR (`ant dist`) to make sure that the correct Plugin-Version line is added to MANIFEST.MF. Cheers, Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Wanted: Plugin Translation With Launchpad HowTo
Hi! Which plugin are you referring to? On 22/11/13 14:02, Holger Mappt wrote: But how do I get the translation for the 10 strings of a single plugin? Is there a description how to get a small subset of the translations? See https://trac.openstreetmap.org/browser/subversion/applications/editors/josm/i18n/build.xml#L81 how the language files are generated for the plugins in the SVN repository. You'd have to make sure that the strings of your plugin get translated. That means the plugin would need to be release under one of the two licenses See http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/DevelopersGuide/DevelopingPlugins#LegalstuffImisopinion Regards, Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] javac: bootstrap class path not set
Hi! compile: [echo] compiling sources for ../../dist/Tracer2.jar ... [javac] Compiling 17 source files to C:\Users\...\workspace\editors\josm\plugins\tracer2\build [javac] warning: [options] bootstrap class path not set in conjunction with -source 1.6 [javac] 1 warning BUILD SUCCESSFUL See https://blogs.oracle.com/darcy/entry/bootclasspath_older_source for a explanation of this warning. In short: the compiler cannot detect if you use classes/methods that have been added in a later Java version. It looks like the JDK I have is newer the the compiler. I have installed the actual sdk java_ee_sdk-6u4-jdk-windows.exe from oracle. I guess you need the Java SE SDK (standard edition instead of enterprise edition). Cheers and happy coding! Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] JOSM Server
Hi all, On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 17:14 +0100, Dirk Stöcker wrote: So lots of thanks again to First of all big thanks to the JOSM server admins (Dirk and Paul, I guess) for administrating, optimising, keeping alive the server. There's hardly a bigger obstacle than a not working project management for distributed free software development. In this light, I'm happy with the recent server migration (thanks to Hetzner, at this point). In relation to annoying ads and useless other images, the logo is hardly visible. :-) Also thanks to all (other) JOSM contributors and user for the cool recent features, great ideas, translations, the not-forgotten documentation etc. I think we are a great team! Cheers, Simon (simon04) ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Editing Antarctica
Did you take a look at the Proj4J plugin? That should provide any EPSG:* projection. Cheers On Mar 3, 2013 10:54 AM, Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org wrote: Hi! I am currently working with Christoph Hormann on improving the data for Antarctica. See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Antarctica for more info. One problem is that Antarctica doesn't work well in EPSG:4326 plate carree projection. (Mercator is right out because it stops at about 85° South.) Yes, we can edit the data in JOSM, but the nearer you get to the pole the more distortions you get. This is problematic when editing buildings for instance, because they are not rectangular in JOSM. But this is also a problem when deriving data from satellite images. There are WMS services with satellite images that we could use that allow EPSG:3031 polar stereographic projection. But JOSM doesn't support that projection. The problem with using 4326 is that when digitising from an image you will probably not use the right detail. Normally you would space out the nodes along some feature evenly, but with so much distortion you can't see what an even distribution would be. The result is that the features would look ragged in some map projections. How difficult would it be to support EPSG:3031 in JOSM? Jochen -- Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org http://www.remote.org/jochen/ +49-721-388298 ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
[josm-dev] Stable release translations
Hi, I/we overlooked the planned stable release for tomorrow and haven't uploaded the translation template until today. This means that there are outstanding translations (also from core) in all languages. [1] I would suggest to wait a few days before releasing the next stable version in order to have some time to finish some translations. Towards JOSM server admins: What about automating the translation template upload process (update the http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/editors/josm repository, cd i18n/, ant pot, ./launchpad.pl upload)? Personally, I'm not too happy with the availability of Launchpad since I frequently get timeouts when displaying outstanding translations or performing searches. Anybody else experiencing similar issues? Cheers, Simon [1] https://translations.launchpad.net/josm/ ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Dealing with conflicts
Hi! On 24/01/13 09:17, Paul Norman wrote: Is anyone aware of a better way to handle this? Did you take a look at Conflation, a plugin for conflating (merging) objects in JOSM? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/Conflation Cheers, Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Adding your own imagery
Incidentally, I replied directly and not to the list … On 14 Nov 2012 12:15, Simon Legner simon.leg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! The format of the imagery is ECW. Is there any possible way of putting these files into JOSM. I have no ECW image at hands, so I cannot try. However, try to use the ImportImagePlugin https://wiki.openstreetmap.**org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/**ImportImagePluginhttps://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/ImportImagePlugin Maybe it is capable of opening a ECW image. Otherwise, use ogr2ogr to convert your image to GeoTIFF. Depending on the projection of the image, you may have to experiment with the projection (setting in JOSM, re-project in advance, …). Cheers, Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] match attribute in JOSM Presets
Hi Kate! I'm curious what the match tag does in JOSM presets. For a selected OSM object, JOSM determines relevant presets, which are displayed together with the object's tags in the properties dialog on the right. For instance, an object with building=yes is assigned the preset Man Made/Building. The match attribute in the XML file allows to control whether an object is considered to match a preset. Typically, combo elements are optional attributes for an object (e.g., surface=) and therefore are not taken into account when matching an object (match=none). However, for the preset Building, some values for building= are predefined in a combo element. Whenever building=yes is present, the Building should be displayed (match=keyvalue). Similarly for the Bridge preset. These are a few examples where a match attribute is used on combo's. The same need for distinction arises from text elements when you think of name= as optional information for some amenities on the one side, and of addr:street= as a defining tag for the Address Information preset (match=key). I hope, the usage of match did become clearer now. If not, feel free to ask. :-) Cheers, Simon (the inventor of this attribute *g*) ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Josm JavaDoc patches wanted?
Hi Franz! On 28/05/12 11:08, Franz Graf wrote: When I am investigating some methods, I could also write some documentation for it. Would anyone be interested in the patches? If so, should I post them as new tickets in TRAC or somewhere else? Of course, documentation is always welcome. :-) Please open a new ticket in Trac and attach your patch(es). Cheers, Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] mirrored_download plugin source
Hi Paul! I was planning to take a look at fixing a couple of bugs in the mirrored_download plugin, but was unable to find the source. Could anyone point me to where it is located? The source code of plugins is located in the OSM SVN (in constrast to the JOSM SVN): http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/editors/josm/plugins/mirrored_download Just for reference, the two bugs are http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/7660 http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/7661 Yesterday, I tested several enhancements of this plugin, but I didn't commit the changes yet: https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/7511#comment:11 As far as I can see, with my changes, the tickets 766[01] are obsolete. I guess, in the next few days, I'd commit my changes. Cheers, Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] getting started
Hi Ricardo! Hello, I'm a java developer from Portugal. I wold like to dedicate some of my free time helping out. Great. :-) Is there any way to get starting I've checked out your code from trunk and for now it is missing some classes... org.openstreetmap.josm.gui.mappaint.mapcss.parsergen.MapCSSParser org.openstreetmap.josm.gui.mappaint.mapcss.parsergen.ParseException org.openstreetmap.josm.gui.mappaint.mapcss.parsergen.TokenMgrError Some classes are generated during building. A simple execution of `ant` should give you a working .jar file. is the a guide for new developers? See http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/DevelopersGuide Cheers, Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Why 5174 ?
Hi! Is there something wrong with 5177 ? Thanks for updating to 5177, Paul … Shouldn't we update translations by the way ? They haven't be updated since 5047. I agree, but I don't know how this is done. :-) Maybe we should also consider this ticket: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/7488 Cheers, Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Why 5174 ?
Hi! On 12/04/12 11:00, Paul Hartmann wrote: Also, before we can upload translation templates to launchpad again, this file [1] needs to be adapted to Simon's preset enhancements. I'm looking at it – to be finished soon. Cheers, Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Why 5174 ?
Also, before we can upload translation templates to launchpad again, this file [1] needs to be adapted to Simon's preset enhancements. I'm looking at it – to be finished soon. Done – o28250. ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] JOSM server move
The installation on the new server seems to be stable, but very likely I will have overlooked something, so afterwards please report any errors which you notice. While closing a ticket, I got: Warning: The change has been saved, but an error occurred while sending notifications: 97 Die Adressfamilie wird von der Protokollfamilie nicht unterstützt ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Why 5174 ?
Hi! On 12/04/12 14:14, Dirk Stöcker wrote: You use values_context in list_entry when given for the combo. The perl should reflect this, otherwise translations can't be used in this combination. I thought, I do so. See line 139 in convpreset: my $vctxi = ($line =~ /value_context=(.*?)/) ? $1 : $vctx; ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Why 5174 ?
Hi! On 12/04/12 14:13, Dirk Stöcker wrote: Maybe you must be member of https://launchpad.net/~openstreetmap ? But theoretically it should not be necessary... I joined the team, now awaiting approval … Dirk, would you upload the updated .pot? ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] WikiStart
On 07/04/12 00:02, Paul Hartmann wrote: Do you think it's ready to replace the current WikiStart page? Yes, it's much better than the current page... Is there a Trac Wiki copy mechanism (to keep the history), or has one to use copypaste? Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] WikiStart
Hi all, I think the current version of the new(?) WikiStart page [1] offers a concise introduction to the JOSM website. Thanks to all contributors. :-) Do you think it's ready to replace the current WikiStart page? Cheers, Simon [1] http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/WikiStartNew ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] WikiStart
Hi Paul! On 04/04/12 12:26, Paul Hartmann wrote: I'm not insisting on this. But if someone isn't interested in all the options and just wants to use the software, the layout should be clear and simple. I agree in the meanwhile (especially after looking at Dirk's statistics) :-) In the current draft (v. 5) I'm missing the link to the advanced Download options. This line could contain the latest version. E.g. The link is in the title, but [cs]ould be more obvious … Current development version (5161), Ubuntu package repository and other Download download options. Looks good. Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] WikiStart
Hi! On 03/04/12 16:25, Paul Hartmann wrote: (and maybe the webstart option, but I'm not sure it needs to be recommended that much) I think it should. On the FOSSGIS I met a few people using a very outdated version of JOSM (half to one year old) because they didn't care about updating. This comes for free when using Web Start. Are there disadvantages? There is no need to link to the latest development version from the main page. Are there any usage statistics tested vs. latest? When sticking to the table, I'd keep the row for the latest version as it shows the current revision number and may be useful for some people. Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] josm, changelogs and release processes
Hi David! On 30/03/12 09:28, David Paleino wrote: If the changelog was available in the SVN repositories, like most projects do, I'd surely install it. But, I don't really want to have headaches trying to parse a wikipage and generate a nicely formatted text file. A plain text version is available under [1]. Cheers, Simon [1] http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Changelog?format=txt ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] josm, changelogs and release processes
Hi! On 30/03/12 01:59, shirish शिरीष wrote: Ok, whom to talk for such an effect to take place. While I know trac is similar to mediawiki in the sense that anyone can make a change as far as the wikifation is concerned, although as its the startup page its possible that it may have restricted/protected/semi-protected access. Any info. on this would be nice to know. If possible then would do the same and link it to the Release processes webpage. It's a page like any other page and does not require special rights. Note that one has to edit StartupPageSource [1]. I'd say it's fine to have a note on the version numbers. If not, someone will revert the edit. :-) I do have another query too, why are there not more plugins,presets within JOSM? I do see a sizeable number of additional presets [1] , styles and plugins as linked from the JOSM startup page. Is it due to possible memory constraints or something or something like symbology [2] in the sense that the given presets and styles and icons are 'safe'/universal or something ? Plugins are great to provide a very special functionality or develop an experimental feature. If plugins turn out to be stable and to be used broadly, they might be included in the core (e.g., remote control, WMS/TMS imagery, ... have been developed for plugins). The situation is similar for presets. If a frequent tag is missing in the presets, file a ticket and ask for inclusion in the default presets. one of the big irritants was not having all the presets or what to do if a plugin/preset is not available/made etc.For instance we had a bunch of sports buildings but could not find any icons within JOSM. As written above, the plugin/preset/style system allows to easily adapt JOSM for custom needs. Cheers, Simon [1] http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/StartupPageSource ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] josm, changelogs and release processes
Hi! On 30/03/12 02:08, shirish शिरीष wrote: there is no svn vs git comparison given anywhere on the ticket There've been some discussions on the [josm-dev] mailing list in the past, e.g., [1,2,3]. [1] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/josm-dev/2010-April/004320.html [2] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/josm-dev/2011-December/005901.html [3] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/josm-dev/2012-January/005949.html ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Creating a user-friendly changelog for tested release
Hi! On 09/02/12 16:58, Paul Hartmann wrote: Do you think we can merge both lists, at least internally? We'd have one wiki page ChangelogSource and each entry is marked either for changelog or for startup note or for both. This would remove redundancy and make live easier for the translators. Removing duplication is a good idea. However, in my opinion, this only makes sense if the changelog messages are translated to a decent number of languages. Is it common to translate the changelog of a software to several languages? Concerning a ChangelogSource, I don't know whether this is possible from a technical point of view as I'm not familiar with the internals of Trac. A negative aspect (in my opinion) of StartupPageSource is that the translation strings somehow clutters the text which makes it harder to just quickly find a news item or edit the wiki page. Just my two cents ... Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Changed presets, contact
Hi! On 17/12/11 21:48, Mike N wrote: On 12/17/2011 9:49 AM, Dirk Stöcker wrote: I see not that we need a big modification here. Maybe an update of the wording could be done, so that people do not automatically assume new is better. That is a good idea. And since people don't realize that the new version effectively puts their work into hiding until *possibly* later data consumers decide to use the new tags, the new version should create both new and old style tags. Let's resolve this naming confusion. I'd rename the common/old scheme to Contact (common schema) to clarify the relation. Any comments/objections? Regards, Simon ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Stabilization ends
Hi! So patches accumulated over the last week may be integrated. I'll take care of my patches in the course of the next week (from Tuesday on). I know this delay is one of the drawbacks of our current development model Git or Mercurial as VCS could easily deal with a stable master branch, development/feature branches and dealing with hot fixes (see for example [1]). I don't know whether it is an option to migrate to another VCS (maybe in the corse of [2]) … Cheers, Simon [1] http://nvie.com/posts/a-successful-git-branching-model/ [2] http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/7132 ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev
Re: [josm-dev] Changed presets, contact
Hi! On 15/12/11 11:44, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: When was this decided? I've added the new contact scheme (new according to the Wiki) to the JOSM presets. There has been an open bug [1] in Trac for several months without any objections. The reasons have been: - contact:* is being used quite frequently [2] (we have presets for far less common tags) - contact:* is documented in the Wiki without any comments on controversial discussion nor with a note of being dead The JOSM presets are not made for discussing the reasonableness of tags. Typically, requests of extending presets are fulfilled unless the tag is irrelevant (according to statistics) or is very specific or the usage of the tag is disputed (according to the Wiki). One could clarify the presets by renaming the old contact preset to Contact (Common scheme) or similar. For further discussion, I suggest to use the ticket [1]. Cheers, Simon [1] http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/6461 [2] http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=contact%3A#keys ___ josm-dev mailing list josm-dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/josm-dev