[JOYnet] Be grateful for your vital stats
Hi! This is a good one. A middle-aged woman had a heart attack and was taken to the hospital.While on the operating table, she had a near-death experience. Seeing God, she asked "Is my time up?" God said, "No, you have another 43 years, 2 months, and 8 days to live." Upon recovery, the woman decided to stay in the hospital and have a facelift, liposuction, and a tummy tuck. She even had someone come in and change her hair color. Since she had so much more time to live, she figured she might as well make the most of it. After her last operation, she was released from the hospital. While crossing the street on her way home she was killed by an ambulance. Arriving in front of God, she demanded, "I thought you said I had another 40 years? Why didn't you pull me from out of the path of the ambulance?" God replied, "I! didn't recognize you!" This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join To get a standard help message on the list services send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] Daily Bread
Concerning Fasting "And whenever you fast, do not look dismal, like the hypocrites, for they disfigure their faces so as to show other that they are fasting. Truely I tell you, they have received their reward. But when you fast, put oil on your head and wash your face, so that your fasting may be seen not by others but by your Father who is in secret; and your Father sho sees in secret will reward you. Matthew 6 " 16 - 18 May God Bless You this Day and Forever This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join To get a standard help message on the list services send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] Something personal..
Hello, I am writing a personal mail to joynet after a long time.. Recently I was wondering, ''When is a Jesus Youth born ?'' I found an interesting answer the other day - when a person says "I believe because I believe". Yes; so far I believed because of my birth in a Christian family, my catechesis, what others told me about Jesus, because I attended a retreat, because the Church teaches so, may be because I saw the face of Jesus in a " Chappathi "...but now I believe because I believe.. May be all these things could have helped me to believe ; but now I believe because I believe (Samaritan woman) - I believe he came to earth for my salvation; I believe he died for me and in his death and resurrection I have eternal life and this is not a privilege meant for me alone and it is my responsibility to share this good news of salvation with others...It goes on...I think for us Jesus Youth, it is high time we concentrated on Jesus rather than on signs and wonders..It is high time we stopped deliberating and asking,''Lord, am I the one...?'' or ''Is this what you want?'' and instead readily ask, ''How, Lord? Tell me. How should I proceed?'' I was there at Wilfred Uncle's (Father of John and Annie) funeral. It was such a beautiful function. The whole parish was there..The Bishop and the Monsignor who celebrated the Mass mentioned 'our Wilfred Uncle' several times...I heard some one say ' There is no house in our parish that Wilfred Uncle hasn't visited..'' The Parish Priest who announced Uncle's death that morning during the Mass couldn't complete his sentence because of his tears..I heard Christeen kids say "Who is going to tell us new stories now ?"..I met Uncle 14 years back in Trivandrum. He was a senior scientist in ISRO at that time..He used to wear only white shirts.. and on that he always wore a small steel cross even when he went to work.. A person respected by all...A very strong supporter and animator of Jesus Youth...A person who spread the beauty of Jesus Youth lifestyle till the last day of his life..Yes.. We need more and more animators like him..to guide us and to support us..I was so overwhelmed to read Kurian Uncle's mail (Nellikkunnel) yesterday on Joynet. These are the concerns of many of us..To keep this precious gift from the Holy Spirit - our life style without making any compromise...We need mature animators for our youth groups.. We have seen it through the years - where we have had strong animators, the movement has grown steadily.. Kurian Uncle wrote " My only qualification to write this is my love for the Jesus Youth life style" . I strongly disagree. Uncle is our animator and he is spreading the beauty of this Jesus Youth life style may be much more than many youth there. He is a man of prayer and absolute faith in Christ who has challenged many lives to a deeper commitment to Jesus not only the youth of US but also many of us..And you can see..how beautifully he continues it.. Praise God ! We are having a meeting with Mathew Joseph, Giju George, Bejoy, Manoj Jons, Eddychettan ...(all our web-joynet core members) on Sunday to pray and discern the future of our cyber activities...Hope we will be able to form a new core team for our web site and joynet on that day.. Please keep us in your prayers.. I have prepared a brief report of my trip to China and the Mission possibilities and certain projects we are planning to begin there.. Those who are interested in knowing about it, please send a mail to me.. I will be happy to send it to you..( I don't want to put it on Joynet for several reasons..) I am leaving for UAE, Kuwait and Srilanka on 28th. Please keep our Middle East gathering in your prayers - Our themes for reflection and prayer will be: - Life style, animators, strong network for Intercession, Mission etc.. In Union with Jesus and Mary, Manoj Sunny, India. This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join To get a standard help message on the list services send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOYnet] Seeking Jesus in Empty Grave.....
Hi friends, Really Dexon's write up is mind blowing. Since this is a beautiful ministry of JY we should pray and discern before pasting anything (especially sensational news) in Joynet. To be frank, this is the first time I prayed before pasting this input. Prejomy Jose Abu Dhabi From: "dexon john netto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [JOYnet] Seeking Jesus in Empty Grave. Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 21:05:12 +0530 Dear friends., Its our way to pray before doing anything including programmes,groups,meetings etc. How many of us pray before sending mails to joynet?... I used to pray for the persons when sending mail that they may experience peace while reading my mail.and that make me consider him to be one I should take care of.Today during the Communion while reaching the Altar ,I saw the Tabernacle .I just looked in and find it empty.While coming back after receiving Jesus, Joynet came to my mind with all the present mails and discussions.are we seeking Jesus in the empty grave? Mind the thousands who are reading these mails Let them find Jesus,get spiritual inspiration,motivated to do wonderful things,renew their spirit and many more thingsso that our mails are worthy in Jesus` sight also. "And whatever we do all should be done in Jesus name for the glory of Abba Father" keep in touch Love from Jesus & Dexon. MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*. This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join To get a standard help message on the list services send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join To get a standard help message on the list services send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] Birthday Notification !!!
Hi Friends These are the birthday babies of the day (November 23). John Vadakekalam V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dencil Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jason Roland Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sofia mathew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wishing you a very happy birthday God Bless With Love The JOYnet Family This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join To get a standard help message on the list services send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] He and I
Jesus to Gabrielle on Nov 29,1938 Corte.Chapel of Christ the King, I said, "Take care of me, Lord." He: "I've taken care of you to the point of dying for you. So you may trust Me." Jesus Loves You. Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join To get a standard help message on the list services send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] Seeking Jesus in Empty Grave.....
Dear friends., Its our way to pray before doing anything including programmes,groups,meetings etc. How many of us pray before sending mails to joynet?... I used to pray for the persons when sending mail that they may experience peace while reading my mail.and that make me consider him to be one I should take care of.Today during the Communion while reaching the Altar ,I saw the Tabernacle .I just looked in and find it empty.While coming back after receiving Jesus, Joynet came to my mind with all the present mails and discussions.are we seeking Jesus in the empty grave? Mind the thousands who are reading these mails Let them find Jesus,get spiritual inspiration,motivated to do wonderful things,renew their spirit and many more thingsso that our mails are worthy in Jesus` sight also. "And whatever we do all should be done in Jesus name for the glory of Abba Father" keep in touch Love from Jesus & Dexon. MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*. This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join To get a standard help message on the list services send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JOYnet] share your God Expereince.
Christmas is fast approaching. We need the Holy Spirit to celebrate the christmas, the birth of Jesus in our lives. Only with the Holy Spirit anyone is able to accept Jesus as Lord and savior. I think we need to start sharing our God expereince in the joynet. I like to share a wonderful experince of my God in the ministry. A few days back a couple walked into Henderson, Auckland, New Zealand They were stressed out and looked sad. They came to talk about their daughter who is away from the Church and family.. I prayed with the couple.The Holy Spirit enabled them to look at their lives differently. I have asked the parents to pray to the Holy Spirit for three days before they talked to their daughter who has already moved out from their home and is thought to be in an abusive relationship. On the third day they have called their daughter and talked to her differently. The parents, especially the dad was able to talk to the daughter with kindness and love. The parents experienced God and communicated that God to their daughter. Usually they used to explode over the phone. In the past, the dad wanted to be in control but this time the dad allowed the Holy Spirit to be in command. The daughter came back home for a visit. It is amazing how, Wednesday evening they showed up for a charismatic healing celebration. The parents and the daughter came. The daughter attended the whole celebration and went home peacefully. Something which seemed to be impossible became easy by the grace of God. Praise the Lord.The Holy Spirit made this difference in the life of this family. Please share on the net, how the good Lord has changed your out look on life.Fr Thomas Mathew/New Zealand./ Novemebr 22/2002 Ps. please pray for the retreat at Hamilton for the weekend. . Protect your PC - Click here for McAfee.com VirusScan Online This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join To get a standard help message on the list services send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOYnet] Criticism
Yes, I strongly feel that we should not criticise the clergy as they are chosen people of God. My dad used to advise me right from my childhood days never to get into an argument with a priest / nun cos we have no right on them. And if they shed a tear; God will hold us accountable for it. The following thought is something which I often contemplate on and I am happy that this brother had also seconded it. > Have we ever tried to look into the life of our > priest where some leave in > utter lonliness and despair but still strugle to > keep their commitment to > the church. Have we seen old priest harrowing there > time with no one to > share with. Inspite of all this they struggle to > keep their commitment to > christ and church. Love in Jesus Sanju --- Vimal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all, > > I aggry with Ms : Mary Jacobs. It is our call to > reform church but that > reformation does not come by criticising the church > or giving head to > untoward critisism. Most of us expect high > standards from our priest and > ofcourse we must do so. But we always undermine the > fact they are also human > beings like us. What have they got that we haven't ? > What they lack that we > have ? We all have equal reward in the glory of > christ. remeber the fable of > the farmer who employed workers at differen times of > the day and gave them > all the same reward.( I can't imagine sharing the > same reward as that of > st:paul when i'm there, this always baffles me:) ). > > Let's not undermine the fact that they are humans > when we critisice them nor > attribute them with super human credentials. When i > think of fathers the > first thing that always comes to mind is the > sacrifice that they have made > for the church and for the chirst in disowning a > life long companionship. > Have we ever tried to look into the life of our > priest where some leave in > utter lonliness and despair but still strugle to > keep their commitment to > the church. Have we seen old priest harrowing there > time with no one to > share with. Inspite of all this they struggle to > keep their commitment to > christ and church. > > And when at times they fail or seems to fail we all > pound on them to tear > them apart. How cruel it for us to do that. And who > is the one who shout at > them. The very people who enjoy all the pleasures of > life and still in their > greediness look out for 'greener pastures' (sorry i > don't want to sound > accusing). Just tink of each one of us who are > raised and are in the family > but still find difficult keep our holiness and > commitment to GOD. > > How greater must be their struggles in comparison > with us. > > Each time we laity open our mouth to critisice the > clergy remeber that they > ar not likes but facing stonger struggles and are > attacked more powerfully > by satan 'coz he know when he gets a priest he can > take along with him a > whole parish. > > So it becomes our duty to pray for them more and > more rather than standing > back and criticising them. > > Remember they give birth to jesus every day in holy > mass > Remember when they say ur sins are forgiven our sins > are forgiven > And Remember this is what they are called for and > these things happen not > 'coz of the standard of their life but by the > anoinment from God. > > WARNING ! (I really mean this) > Thing twice before criticising a preist the anointed > of the mos holy ONE, ur > r confronting god. > > ERRATA > This is not directed towards any individual but just > expressing my anguish > on this matter. > > Let's all pray that god gives us more wisdom to > appreciate priesthood and > love our priests. > > God bless u all > vimal > > - Original Message - > From: "Mary Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 9:41 PM > Subject: Re: [JOYnet] naughty Bishop !! > > > Hi Friends, > > Forgive me but I don't think we should pay much > attention to articles such > as these. While it may be true that this has > happened, it does us no good > (nor the church for that matter) to read & dwell on > these types of matters. > By doing that, we are only feeding into the media's > gross invitation to mock > the Catholic church. Perhaps this priest did make a > mistake but who are we > to judge. This whole incident is not relevant to > our spiritual growth or to > our faith and morale as Catholics in any way. I'm > sure the powers that be > in Rome fuelled by the wisdom of the Holy Father > will resolve this issue and > we need not think, worry or talk about it. > > I mean no offense to anyone but please in the > future, let's really think > about what we're posting. If it's not to anyone's > benefit or advantage (in > terms of spiritual growth) then perhaps we should > think twice before we send > it to everyone, especially with a title such as > this. Thanks for listening > and God bless,..-Mary (Calgary, Canada
Re: [JOYnet] naughty Bishop !!
Hi all, What Vimal and Mary shared is correct we need not spend our time and energy to discuss others mistakes. Whether it is bishop or a neighbor we can't judge them for what they are doing. Our Binoy might not intended to criticize anybody when he forward that message. One good thing is Binoy is reading some Christian magazines and getting informations, good benoy, But when you forward any mails pls think 2 times because our Joynet it a very big group now we dont know it may some times misleading some of our members. :) then Benoy one thing where did u got that heading ??? Ok guys Christmas season, what are the plans for celebrating Christmas Any ideas for e-celebration of Christmas??? Love, Suresh Colombo, Sri Lanka At 12:05 PM 11/22/02 +0530, you wrote: Hello all, I aggry with Ms : Mary Jacobs. It is our call to reform church but that reformation does not come by criticising the church or giving head to untoward critisism. Most of us expect high standards from our priest and ofcourse we must do so. But we always undermine the fact they are also human beings like us. What have they got that we haven't ? What they lack that we have ? We all have equal reward in the glory of christ. remeber the fable of the farmer who employed workers at differen times of the day and gave them all the same reward.( I can't imagine sharing the same reward as that of st:paul when i'm there, this always baffles me:) ). Let's not undermine the fact that they are humans when we critisice them nor attribute them with super human credentials. When i think of fathers the first thing that always comes to mind is the sacrifice that they have made for the church and for the chirst in disowning a life long companionship. Have we ever tried to look into the life of our priest where some leave in utter lonliness and despair but still strugle to keep their commitment to the church. Have we seen old priest harrowing there time with no one to share with. Inspite of all this they struggle to keep their commitment to christ and church. And when at times they fail or seems to fail we all pound on them to tear them apart. How cruel it for us to do that. And who is the one who shout at them. The very people who enjoy all the pleasures of life and still in their greediness look out for 'greener pastures' (sorry i don't want to sound accusing). Just tink of each one of us who are raised and are in the family but still find difficult keep our holiness and commitment to GOD. How greater must be their struggles in comparison with us. Each time we laity open our mouth to critisice the clergy remeber that they ar not likes but facing stonger struggles and are attacked more powerfully by satan 'coz he know when he gets a priest he can take along with him a whole parish. So it becomes our duty to pray for them more and more rather than standing back and criticising them. Remember they give birth to jesus every day in holy mass Remember when they say ur sins are forgiven our sins are forgiven And Remember this is what they are called for and these things happen not 'coz of the standard of their life but by the anoinment from God. WARNING ! (I really mean this) Thing twice before criticising a preist the anointed of the mos holy ONE, ur r confronting god. ERRATA This is not directed towards any individual but just expressing my anguish on this matter. Let's all pray that god gives us more wisdom to appreciate priesthood and love our priests. God bless u all vimal - Original Message - From: "Mary Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [JOYnet] naughty Bishop !! Hi Friends, Forgive me but I don't think we should pay much attention to articles such as these. While it may be true that this has happened, it does us no good (nor the church for that matter) to read & dwell on these types of matters. By doing that, we are only feeding into the media's gross invitation to mock the Catholic church. Perhaps this priest did make a mistake but who are we to judge. This whole incident is not relevant to our spiritual growth or to our faith and morale as Catholics in any way. I'm sure the powers that be in Rome fuelled by the wisdom of the Holy Father will resolve this issue and we need not think, worry or talk about it. I mean no offense to anyone but please in the future, let's really think about what we're posting. If it's not to anyone's benefit or advantage (in terms of spiritual growth) then perhaps we should think twice before we send it to everyone, especially with a title such as this. Thanks for listening and God bless,..-Mary (Calgary, Canada) >From: "Sangeet Binoy (REPORTER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "mail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [JOYnet] naughty Bishop !! >Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2002 19:00:00 +0530 > >Shamed Zambian archbishop celebrating first Mass since marriage scandal > >CASAMARI, Italy _ A Zambian
[JOYnet] TODAY`S SAINT.......
November 22, 2002 St. Cecilia (3rd century) LIFE: St.Cecilia was born in Rome, towards the end of the second century,while Alexander Severus was the reigning Emperor.As a young girl, her talent for music was highly remarkable.She was a patrician girl but was brought up as a Christian. From an early age she determined to remain a maiden for the love of God & she used to fast, perform penances&charitable works. But the parents planned to give her in marriage to a young patrician, Valerian by name.In the evening of her wedding day, with the music of marriage-hymn still ringing in her ears,she renewed the vows by which she had consecrated her virginity to God. And with courage she said to her husband **I have a secret to tell u.You must know that I have an angel of God watching over me.If u touch me in the way of marriage, he will be angry & u will suffer; a! nd if u respect my maidenhood he will love u as he loves me.** Valerian a nobleman requested Cecilia to show this angel and then he would comply with her request if it were true. " If u believe in the living, one true God and recieve the water of baptism, then u will see the angel" was Cecilia`s reply.Valerian consented and she sent him to find Bishop Urban,who baptised him,when he returned,to his dismay, found her standing by the side of an angel. The angel approached him &laid upon the head of each, a chaplet of roses&lilies.He was fully mooved & within days he and his brother (converted by Valerain`s faith) sealed their confession with their martyrdom.They were beheaded by Almachim, the prefect. Cecilia had the bodies buried and when she was sommened before the Prefect , confessed her faith..the death appointed for her was by suffoca! tion and she remained a day &night immersed in boiling water.She merged unscathed & then she was struck with an axe,laid bleeding for three days, praying and exhorting all who visited her..and atlast expired singing praises to God. PATRONAGE: Albi France, composers, martyrs, music, musicians, musical instrument makers, archdiocese of Omaha, Nebraska, poets, singers REFLECTION: "" Do you not know that nothing will make me so happy as to die for Christ?"" (St.Cecilia) A PRAYER TO Saint Cecilia O holy martyr Cecilia, the Lord blessed you with the gift of music, and in turn u consecrated yourself to him. Bless all musicians, that they achieve the full potential of their gift of music, using it to the glory of God. Pray also for all those listen to the music, that they may appreciate the wonders of sound--melody and harmony,voice and instrument,syncopation and rhythm-- and through music they may come to know the glorious beauty of our Creator, who wishes only and at all times our complete wellbeing. Intercede for those who make promises and vows. Help them uphold thier word faithfully, and help them seek truth sincerely, that they may know whither they r called and what God wants them to do. O Saint Cecilia, pray for us.Amen. Catch all the cricket action. Download Yahoo! Score tracker This mail is generated from JOYnet, a Jesus Youth mailing list. For more info on the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet To unsubscribe from the list send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the list visit http://www.jesusyouth.org/joynet/join To get a standard help message on the list services send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In case of any issue related to the mailing list contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOYnet] Horoscope and Holy Spirit
Dear Friends, I was closely watching (of course reading) all mails about vasthu, horoscope etc. From my early ages itself i never believed any of these things... Vasthu, Time, Horoscope, stars, So many beliefs related to this. In our homes so many belive when you go for a journey or good things don't look back or step back because you may not success in that trip. there are good time/bad times to do things, While somebody is eating you can't say good bye and leave that family, then how to eat, how to dress, when you start your vehicle in the morning first you have to take vehicle little forward then only reverse other vise you might meet with an accident, Then there are good days and bad days, good months and bad months (in Malayalam karkidakam is not good for wedding), good colors and bad colors, then matching of stars.. If you just look around and inside you can see so many beliefs like this where all this came from May be we got it from parents & from friends Is it useful or will it make any harm for us??? From my personal experience I have few things to share with you. if you belive all this these may become relevant but if you dont belive then none of this can affect your life. I never belive any of above things, Time, place, days, months, persons, everything is made by Our God and he saw everything beautiful and good. My parents believed that it is not good to step back when we go for journey... But i made it very clear by steps back each time I go for good things and made it clear in mind there is nothing like that. We being Jesus youth I think we should not spread this kind of beliefs. When we plan our wedding (for married some other good events), or go for a journey, build a house, we should not follow this kind of things If God is supreme then times, days or stars can't do anything to harm you. This may be difficult for some people to accept. Even in Catholic magazines and news papers we can see horoscope these kind of things slowly change our mentality and beliefs and its dangerous than known evils. One funny thing is here many of my friends can't belive that when I told I don't know my star. My star is Christmas star and it is Jesus. With Love, Suresh Colombo, Sri Lanka At 02:03 PM 11/21/02 -0800, you wrote: Dear friends in Jesus, As I was going through the hot discussions on faith vs superstition(vasthusasthra,horoscope etc.,),I thought of sharing this incident that happened to me 2 years ago. I was a firm believer of horoscopes 2 years ago!I always used to read my Zodiac signs and I firmly followed them.I was so fond of this,that I collected many articles and books on this topic.I went one step further and started reading palms of my friends with my 'knowledge'.They said many things came true.Ah! I became very popular among my friends and seniors.Then one day,I came across a book "Blessings or curses,You can choose" by Derek Prince,a famous Evangelist.An incident in this book touched me deeply. (Derek Prince was preaching in a hall,and he noticed a sad young man among the audience.Later he went up to the man and asked him why was he sad.The young man said,"Everybody here receives the Holy Spirit during praise and worship,but I don't."So Derek prayed for him and asked him"Did you go to a fotune teller?"the man replied"yes,but it was for fun,I didn't mean it"Derek replied"will you commit adultery and say it was for fun,you didn't mean it?Repent my son"the young man repented and in the next session he was anointed with the Holy Spirit.) I was very moved by reading this.I used to go to various retreats,but I always saw that everybody around me spoke in tongues and was touched by God in many ways but I never had any such experience..I mean I was left very dry,untouched and I used to ask Jesus with tears in my eyes"Why God,not me?I want to know your Holy Spirit."Whenever anybody mentioned about horoscope,I used to say,I don't believe in it,but just for fun.now I knew this was no fun.There was a prayer at the end of the book asking for forgiveness from God.I knelt down in front of the Crucfixion icon and started praying.When I came to a sentence"I commit myself to destroy all objects.."I felt as if somebody had caught my tongue.I started the prayer again and when I came to that particular sentence,again that tie was there.I started a 3rd time and when I reached that sentence I began to cry.Now I knew something was wrong.suddenly I remembered the various books and articles I had in possession about horoscope.I got up and immeditely took all of them out and threw them into the dustbin.Then I started to say the prayer again.I finished the prayer smoothly and then burst into tears bcoz I felt as if some kind of burden was lifted away from me...I was free of some bondage.That night my father called me to say that my Holy Confirmation was arranged for.(We had been trying to have this Sacrament,but there was always some difficulty,now it was removed).So I received my C