I hate to barge in on this discussion with something unrelated, but how long does it take for something to post? I've sent 2 posts in the last 30 minutes and they are not appearing. Any idea what I might be doing wrong?
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Jeffrey Kretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Heh. I like that -- the Code Jihad. > > I agree 100% about failing silently being a BAD THING(tm). > > However, our disagreement involves what constitutes a fail. > > The only thing we've been trying to say is, an empty result set is only a > fail under certain circumstances. > > To define an empty result set is a fail EVERY TIME is to limit the > underlying system. > > Going back to the SQL analogy -- I have a data layer that performs a delete > like this: > > DELETE FROM Table WHERE PrimaryKey = @KeyValue > SELECT @RowCount = @@ROWCOUNT > > The app that calls the delete function will get a return value of how many > rows were deleted. > > Maybe 0 rows is a fail, maybe it isn't. It depends on what I'm trying to > do. > > I have a choice to fail the program after the delete. > > It would be wrong to require a SQL Exception thrown on every case of 0 rows > deleted. > > Savvy? > JK > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jquery-en@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of brian > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:24 AM > To: jQuery (English) > Subject: [jQuery] Re: Can I make jquery not fail silently?? > > > > I have a personal jihad against apps that fail silently. > > My jihad listens to no reason. > > Sure, they have valid points that make sense from the viewpoints they > hold. I don't share their viewpoints. OK? > > Can we lighten up now? > > > > On Nov 5, 1:13 pm, ricardobeat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That 'religious' bit is a bit offensive don't you think? There are > > good reasons for failing silently as Mike, Richard and Jeffrey have > > pointed out. The fact you don't accept/understand them doesn't make > > their (and mine) opinions less empirical. > > > > - ricardo > > > > On Nov 5, 5:10 pm, brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Now $('#non-existing-id').fail().toggle() will fail, > > > > but will work if it's not empty. > > > > > That's actually right on the money. Thanks. > > > > > //Still thinks fail silently on id queries is insane, but knows a > > > religious argument when he sees one. > >