[jQuery] Re: With IE8 out, how do you test for IE6?

2009-03-24 Thread KathyW



On Mar 24, 2:09 pm, "Jeffrey Kretz"  wrote:
> I found Multiple IE to be inaccurate for certain types of CSS and
> Javascript.  

Could you elaborate on what "types" of CSS and Javascript?

> I've used VPC for my compatibility testing for some time now
> and swear by it.

I have VPC on my Mac and it's just far too slow, especially testing
*any* JQuery animations.

KathyW.


[jQuery] Re: With IE8 out, how do you test for IE6?

2009-03-23 Thread Jeffrey Kretz

+1.

I found Multiple IE to be inaccurate for certain types of CSS and
Javascript.  I've used VPC for my compatibility testing for some time now
and swear by it.

JK

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The best way if you use Windows is to install virtual PC.  Get the
Virtual PC for free from Microsoft here

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=04D26402-3199-48A3-
AFA2-2DC0B40A73B6&displaylang=en

Then, download the VHD images here.  They usually expire after a few
months, but Microsoft normally puts new ones up.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=7c2b
5317-a40f-4e86-8835-d37170c5923e




On Mar 23, 2:53 pm, KathyW  wrote:
> On Mar 23, 11:59 pm, Eridius  wrote:
>
> > However, after i installed IE8, Multiple IE stopped render correctly (I
use
> > Multiple IE to test for IE6 and this is only at work since I have yet to
> > find a way to run IE6 on Vista at home).
>
> I'd read of issues with ie8 install *after* MultipleIE, so when I set
> up an XP test box last week I installed the ie8 rc1 *before*
> installing MultipleIE and it all works fine. Perhaps you should remove
> and re-install MultipleIE ? ie8 probably clobbered some of the
> dlls ...
>
> Good luck,
> KathyW.



[jQuery] Re: With IE8 out, how do you test for IE6?

2009-03-23 Thread Dhana

The best way if you use Windows is to install virtual PC.  Get the
Virtual PC for free from Microsoft here

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=04D26402-3199-48A3-AFA2-2DC0B40A73B6&displaylang=en

Then, download the VHD images here.  They usually expire after a few
months, but Microsoft normally puts new ones up.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=7c2b5317-a40f-4e86-8835-d37170c5923e




On Mar 23, 2:53 pm, KathyW  wrote:
> On Mar 23, 11:59 pm, Eridius  wrote:
>
> > However, after i installed IE8, Multiple IE stopped render correctly (I use
> > Multiple IE to test for IE6 and this is only at work since I have yet to
> > find a way to run IE6 on Vista at home).
>
> I'd read of issues with ie8 install *after* MultipleIE, so when I set
> up an XP test box last week I installed the ie8 rc1 *before*
> installing MultipleIE and it all works fine. Perhaps you should remove
> and re-install MultipleIE ? ie8 probably clobbered some of the
> dlls ...
>
> Good luck,
> KathyW.


[jQuery] Re: With IE8 out, how do you test for IE6?

2009-03-23 Thread KathyW



On Mar 23, 11:59 pm, Eridius  wrote:
> However, after i installed IE8, Multiple IE stopped render correctly (I use
> Multiple IE to test for IE6 and this is only at work since I have yet to
> find a way to run IE6 on Vista at home).

I'd read of issues with ie8 install *after* MultipleIE, so when I set
up an XP test box last week I installed the ie8 rc1 *before*
installing MultipleIE and it all works fine. Perhaps you should remove
and re-install MultipleIE ? ie8 probably clobbered some of the
dlls ...

Good luck,
KathyW.


[jQuery] Re: With IE8 out, how do you test for IE6?

2009-03-23 Thread Pedro Vidal
Do you know the IE Tester?
I'm  using it, and it's nice...

2009/3/23 ryan.j 

>
> I thought SuperPreview was aimed more at identifying layout issues,
> rather than testing in a native enviroment?
>
> On Mar 23, 1:50 pm, Martijn Houtman  wrote:
> > On Mar 23, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Eridius wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > I say that friday that IE8 was released so I downloaded it to check
> > > it out.
> > > I am happy that they did seemed to do at least a few right right
> > > and it seem
> > > very easy to test for IE8 and IE7 in the IE8 browser (which is very
> > > nice).
> > > However, after i installed IE8, Multiple IE stopped render
> > > correctly (I use
> > > Multiple IE to test for IE6 and this is only at work since I have
> > > yet to
> > > find a way to run IE6 on Vista at home).  Do you guys have any tips/
> > > tricks
> > > for properly test IE8/7/6 On Vista and XP?  I am almost at the
> > > point where I
> > > want to drop support for IE6 on my own javascript plug-ins because
> > > it is
> > > utterly retarded to have to main code that works on 3 separate
> > > version of
> > > the same browser (come on IE6 is over 8 years old, FireFox 1 wass
> > > released
> > > after IE6 and no one officially supports that).
> >
> > There's SuperPreview from Microsoft:
> >
> > http://www.istartedsomething.com/20090318/expression-web-superpreview-
> > cross-browser-testing/
> >
> > I think it only does IE6 and the IE you have installed on your
> > machine. IE8 also has backwards-compatibility mode, which supposedly
> > goes into IE7 rendering mode, although in my experience it renders it
> > more like IE6.
> >
> > P.S.: My company no longer supports IE6, unless the customer is OK
> > with paying 30% extra development time. It's the easiest solution for
> > us ;-)
> >
> > Regards,
> > --
> > Martijn.
>


[jQuery] Re: With IE8 out, how do you test for IE6?

2009-03-23 Thread Martijn Houtman


On Mar 23, 2009, at 3:16 PM, ryan.j wrote:


I thought SuperPreview was aimed more at identifying layout issues,
rather than testing in a native enviroment?


Oh, you could be right. I was unable to test it, because it does not  
even work for me (it crashes at startup), but it's still beta- 
software, so what can you expect. Multiple IE works fine for me right  
now.


Regards,
--
Martijn.

[jQuery] Re: With IE8 out, how do you test for IE6?

2009-03-23 Thread sleepwalker

Download IETester http://www.my-debugbar.com/wiki/IETester/HomePage
and you can test 5.5 through 8. I use this daily, works great.


[jQuery] Re: With IE8 out, how do you test for IE6?

2009-03-23 Thread Liam Potter


http://www.xenocode.com/browsers/

standalone browsers that run in their own sandbox, just download the exe 
files and run them.


ryan.j wrote:

I thought SuperPreview was aimed more at identifying layout issues,
rather than testing in a native enviroment?

On Mar 23, 1:50 pm, Martijn Houtman  wrote:
  

On Mar 23, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Eridius wrote:




I say that friday that IE8 was released so I downloaded it to check  
it out.
I am happy that they did seemed to do at least a few right right  
and it seem
very easy to test for IE8 and IE7 in the IE8 browser (which is very  
nice).
However, after i installed IE8, Multiple IE stopped render  
correctly (I use
Multiple IE to test for IE6 and this is only at work since I have  
yet to

find a way to run IE6 on Vista at home).  Do you guys have any tips/
tricks
for properly test IE8/7/6 On Vista and XP?  I am almost at the  
point where I
want to drop support for IE6 on my own javascript plug-ins because  
it is
utterly retarded to have to main code that works on 3 separate  
version of
the same browser (come on IE6 is over 8 years old, FireFox 1 wass  
released

after IE6 and no one officially supports that).
  

There's SuperPreview from Microsoft:

http://www.istartedsomething.com/20090318/expression-web-superpreview-
cross-browser-testing/

I think it only does IE6 and the IE you have installed on your  
machine. IE8 also has backwards-compatibility mode, which supposedly  
goes into IE7 rendering mode, although in my experience it renders it  
more like IE6.


P.S.: My company no longer supports IE6, unless the customer is OK  
with paying 30% extra development time. It's the easiest solution for  
us ;-)


Regards,
--
Martijn.



[jQuery] Re: With IE8 out, how do you test for IE6?

2009-03-23 Thread ryan.j

I thought SuperPreview was aimed more at identifying layout issues,
rather than testing in a native enviroment?

On Mar 23, 1:50 pm, Martijn Houtman  wrote:
> On Mar 23, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Eridius wrote:
>
>
>
> > I say that friday that IE8 was released so I downloaded it to check  
> > it out.
> > I am happy that they did seemed to do at least a few right right  
> > and it seem
> > very easy to test for IE8 and IE7 in the IE8 browser (which is very  
> > nice).
> > However, after i installed IE8, Multiple IE stopped render  
> > correctly (I use
> > Multiple IE to test for IE6 and this is only at work since I have  
> > yet to
> > find a way to run IE6 on Vista at home).  Do you guys have any tips/
> > tricks
> > for properly test IE8/7/6 On Vista and XP?  I am almost at the  
> > point where I
> > want to drop support for IE6 on my own javascript plug-ins because  
> > it is
> > utterly retarded to have to main code that works on 3 separate  
> > version of
> > the same browser (come on IE6 is over 8 years old, FireFox 1 wass  
> > released
> > after IE6 and no one officially supports that).
>
> There's SuperPreview from Microsoft:
>
> http://www.istartedsomething.com/20090318/expression-web-superpreview-
> cross-browser-testing/
>
> I think it only does IE6 and the IE you have installed on your  
> machine. IE8 also has backwards-compatibility mode, which supposedly  
> goes into IE7 rendering mode, although in my experience it renders it  
> more like IE6.
>
> P.S.: My company no longer supports IE6, unless the customer is OK  
> with paying 30% extra development time. It's the easiest solution for  
> us ;-)
>
> Regards,
> --
> Martijn.


[jQuery] Re: With IE8 out, how do you test for IE6?

2009-03-23 Thread Martijn Houtman


On Mar 23, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Eridius wrote:

I say that friday that IE8 was released so I downloaded it to check  
it out.
I am happy that they did seemed to do at least a few right right  
and it seem
very easy to test for IE8 and IE7 in the IE8 browser (which is very  
nice).
However, after i installed IE8, Multiple IE stopped render  
correctly (I use
Multiple IE to test for IE6 and this is only at work since I have  
yet to
find a way to run IE6 on Vista at home).  Do you guys have any tips/ 
tricks
for properly test IE8/7/6 On Vista and XP?  I am almost at the  
point where I
want to drop support for IE6 on my own javascript plug-ins because  
it is
utterly retarded to have to main code that works on 3 separate  
version of
the same browser (come on IE6 is over 8 years old, FireFox 1 wass  
released

after IE6 and no one officially supports that).


There's SuperPreview from Microsoft:

http://www.istartedsomething.com/20090318/expression-web-superpreview- 
cross-browser-testing/


I think it only does IE6 and the IE you have installed on your  
machine. IE8 also has backwards-compatibility mode, which supposedly  
goes into IE7 rendering mode, although in my experience it renders it  
more like IE6.


P.S.: My company no longer supports IE6, unless the customer is OK  
with paying 30% extra development time. It's the easiest solution for  
us ;-)


Regards,
--
Martijn.


[jQuery] Re: With IE8 out, how do you test for IE6?

2009-03-23 Thread ryan.j

have you tried http://tredosoft.com/Multiple_IE

they do a standalone IE7 too, which i have limited success with so i
just removed ie8. (make sure you have 'show updates' checked in add/
remove programs if you want to remove IE8, windows treats it as an
upgrade).

On Mar 23, 12:59 pm, Eridius  wrote:
> I say that friday that IE8 was released so I downloaded it to check it out.
> I am happy that they did seemed to do at least a few right right and it seem
> very easy to test for IE8 and IE7 in the IE8 browser (which is very nice).
> However, after i installed IE8, Multiple IE stopped render correctly (I use
> Multiple IE to test for IE6 and this is only at work since I have yet to
> find a way to run IE6 on Vista at home).  Do you guys have any tips/tricks
> for properly test IE8/7/6 On Vista and XP?  I am almost at the point where I
> want to drop support for IE6 on my own javascript plug-ins because it is
> utterly retarded to have to main code that works on 3 separate version of
> the same browser (come on IE6 is over 8 years old, FireFox 1 wass released
> after IE6 and no one officially supports that).
> --
> View this message in 
> context:http://www.nabble.com/With-IE8-out%2C-how-do-you-test-for-IE6--tp2265...
> Sent from the jQuery General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com.


[jQuery] Re: With IE8 out, how do you test for IE6?

2009-03-23 Thread Martin Möller

Eridius  wrote:
>Do you guys have any tips/tricks
> for properly test IE8/7/6 On Vista and XP?

Sure, the best Solution i found so far is Xenocode.

http://www.xenocode.com/browsers/

Known Issues
• The IE8 executable triggers a false positive warning when using
Avira AV. UPDATE: Avira is patching their product, see
http://forum.avira.com/wbb/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=82913.
• Mac clients are not currently supported. (Yes, we're sorry and we hear you!)

Cheers,
Martin


[jQuery] Re: With IE8 out, how do you test for IE6?

2009-03-23 Thread Giovanni Battista Lenoci


Eridius ha scritto:
I say that friday that IE8 was released so I downloaded it to check it out. 
I am happy that they did seemed to do at least a few right right and it seem
very easy to test for IE8 and IE7 in the IE8 browser (which is very nice). 
However, after i installed IE8, Multiple IE stopped render correctly (I use

Multiple IE to test for IE6 and this is only at work since I have yet to
find a way to run IE6 on Vista at home).  Do you guys have any tips/tricks
for properly test IE8/7/6 On Vista and XP?  I am almost at the point where I
want to drop support for IE6 on my own javascript plug-ins because it is
utterly retarded to have to main code that works on 3 separate version of
the same browser (come on IE6 is over 8 years old, FireFox 1 wass released
after IE6 and no one officially supports that).
  
You can download a windows xp image (to install as a virtual machine) 
for testing purpose from microsoft (I don't have the link, but you can 
find it on the Multiple IE site).

I know, it's the worse way to solve. :-/

Bye :-)

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