[jQuery] Re: is there a secret to jQuery with Opera?
What timothyjoe said is right, why don't you join the jpg-# ?
The hash (#...) you add to the url is to avoid caching ? if so, you
should use a search (?...) instead.
That code is for images-off detection right ? What about this:
$('img /')
.load(function(){
$('#noimages').attr(href, '/styles/gotimages.css');
})
.error(function(){
$('#noimages').attr(href, '/styles/imagefree.css');
})
.attr('href','/images/bgimage.jpg');
I hope it was indeed helpful.
Cheers
Ariel Flesler
On Feb 21, 1:01 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Glad I'm not the only one :)
My code - and it *is* a fudge - uses a pretend variable, written into
a bit of hidden html. I doesn't work properly with a real variable (in
Opera, neither!) and I'm still looking for an un-fudged solution. Here
it is:
jQuery.imagesOn = function(){
$('img src=' + '/images/bgimage.jpg' + '#' + Math.random() + '/'
).load(function() {
$('#noimages').attr(href, '/styles/gotimages.css');
$('.imagecheck').html('On');
});
if ( $('.imagecheck').val() != 'On' ) {
$('#noimages').attr(href, '/styles/imagefree.css');
}
}
So - well, any comment must be a helpful comment ;)
Cheers,
Cherry
On Feb 21, 3:00 am, timothytoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah, the first Windows version didn't seem able to run for 5 minutes
without crashing violently. I hated it.
The JavaScript has gotten so fast in that browser that a nasty bit of
statistics code I run takes 35 seconds on Firefox and 20 seconds in
Safari, so I've really started to like Safari. :-)
As for Opera, I'm having my own problems with it. It's the only
browser my code isn't running on right now, and I haven't had time to
figure out why. For me, it's not really Opera's fault. After all, IE
causes me the most trouble by far, but I try it every couple days to
make sure it's still working.
Explain to me what you're doing. Doesn't Math.Random() give you a
number from 0 to 1? Is that really your code? Do you really have a #
in there? If so, why isn't it part of the previous string?
On Feb 20, 6:22 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Aha! My good reason(s) were that an earlier beta repeatedly crashed my
machine, and I'm fed up with Apple's creeping-startup-takeover
strategy. But the current Safari version installed without a hitch; I
guess I'll have to either live with the startups, or spend some time
killing them ;) Thanks for the heads-up TT!
The page looks the same in Safari as in Firefox ie (phew!).
So what's up with Opera?
On Feb 21, 1:54 am, timothytoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Safari for Windows is a pretty good browser now, especially if you
want to have a good idea whether you'll run on Mac Safari (and
iPhone). Is there a reason you're not testing with it as well?
On Feb 20, 3:45 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Admittedly, the function in question is my own home-fudged one. It
depends on:
$('img src=' + '/images/thelogo.png' + '#' + Math.random() + '/
' ).load(function() {
Firefox and IE (hurrah) behave as required. Opera doesn't register the
changed 'variable' (an .html() function), but loads the no-images
stylesheet anyway. Do you understand why this might be?
As I haven't got a Mac, I tend to trust that Opera will be at least as
demanding as Safari. The thought of all Mac and Opera users getting
the image-free version by default scares me to death!
I haven't found any relevant documentation. I know this group houses
some really hot browser experts - so am pleading for insight
advice ...
Cherry :/- Hide quoted text -
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[jQuery] Re: is there a secret to jQuery with Opera?
I really appreciate that, Ariel - but am having no end of trouble
getting .error to work with this! For now, I'm using my clumsy 'if'
clause, but will persist with jQuery .error() until I'm winning ;)
From my Google searches, it seems I'm not the only one with an image-
detection problem in Opera. I've simply made the function unavailable
to Opera. Thank goodness it's not all that popular!
Cherry
On Feb 21, 11:41 am, Ariel Flesler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What timothyjoe said is right, why don't you join the jpg-# ?
The hash (#...) you add to the url is to avoid caching ? if so, you
should use a search (?...) instead.
That code is for images-off detection right ? What about this:
$('img /')
.load(function(){
$('#noimages').attr(href, '/styles/gotimages.css');
})
.error(function(){
$('#noimages').attr(href, '/styles/imagefree.css');
})
.attr('href','/images/bgimage.jpg');
I hope it was indeed helpful.
Cheers
Ariel Flesler
On Feb 21, 1:01 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Glad I'm not the only one :)
My code - and it *is* a fudge - uses a pretend variable, written into
a bit of hidden html. I doesn't work properly with a real variable (in
Opera, neither!) and I'm still looking for an un-fudged solution. Here
it is:
jQuery.imagesOn = function(){
$('img src=' + '/images/bgimage.jpg' + '#' + Math.random() + '/'
).load(function() {
$('#noimages').attr(href, '/styles/gotimages.css');
$('.imagecheck').html('On');
});
if ( $('.imagecheck').val() != 'On' ) {
$('#noimages').attr(href, '/styles/imagefree.css');
}
}
So - well, any comment must be a helpful comment ;)
Cheers,
Cherry
On Feb 21, 3:00 am, timothytoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah, the first Windows version didn't seem able to run for 5 minutes
without crashing violently. I hated it.
The JavaScript has gotten so fast in that browser that a nasty bit of
statistics code I run takes 35 seconds on Firefox and 20 seconds in
Safari, so I've really started to like Safari. :-)
As for Opera, I'm having my own problems with it. It's the only
browser my code isn't running on right now, and I haven't had time to
figure out why. For me, it's not really Opera's fault. After all, IE
causes me the most trouble by far, but I try it every couple days to
make sure it's still working.
Explain to me what you're doing. Doesn't Math.Random() give you a
number from 0 to 1? Is that really your code? Do you really have a #
in there? If so, why isn't it part of the previous string?
On Feb 20, 6:22 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Aha! My good reason(s) were that an earlier beta repeatedly crashed my
machine, and I'm fed up with Apple's creeping-startup-takeover
strategy. But the current Safari version installed without a hitch; I
guess I'll have to either live with the startups, or spend some time
killing them ;) Thanks for the heads-up TT!
The page looks the same in Safari as in Firefox ie (phew!).
So what's up with Opera?
On Feb 21, 1:54 am, timothytoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Safari for Windows is a pretty good browser now, especially if you
want to have a good idea whether you'll run on Mac Safari (and
iPhone). Is there a reason you're not testing with it as well?
On Feb 20, 3:45 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Admittedly, the function in question is my own home-fudged one. It
depends on:
$('img src=' + '/images/thelogo.png' + '#' + Math.random() + '/
' ).load(function() {
Firefox and IE (hurrah) behave as required. Opera doesn't register
the
changed 'variable' (an .html() function), but loads the no-images
stylesheet anyway. Do you understand why this might be?
As I haven't got a Mac, I tend to trust that Opera will be at least
as
demanding as Safari. The thought of all Mac and Opera users getting
the image-free version by default scares me to death!
I haven't found any relevant documentation. I know this group houses
some really hot browser experts - so am pleading for insight
advice ...
Cherry :/- Hide quoted text -
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[jQuery] Re: is there a secret to jQuery with Opera?
I've simply made the function unavailable to Opera. Thank goodness it's not
all that popular!
...and then you complain about accessibility... :-)
Ariel Flesler
On 21 feb, 17:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I really appreciate that, Ariel - but am having no end of trouble
getting .error to work with this! For now, I'm using my clumsy 'if'
clause, but will persist with jQuery .error() until I'm winning ;)
From my Google searches, it seems I'm not the only one with an image-
detection problem in Opera. I've simply made the function unavailable
to Opera. Thank goodness it's not all that popular!
Cherry
On Feb 21, 11:41 am, Ariel Flesler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What timothyjoe said is right, why don't you join the jpg-# ?
The hash (#...) you add to the url is to avoid caching ? if so, you
should use a search (?...) instead.
That code is for images-off detection right ? What about this:
$('img /')
.load(function(){
$('#noimages').attr(href, '/styles/gotimages.css');
})
.error(function(){
$('#noimages').attr(href, '/styles/imagefree.css');
})
.attr('href','/images/bgimage.jpg');
I hope it was indeed helpful.
Cheers
Ariel Flesler
On Feb 21, 1:01 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Glad I'm not the only one :)
My code - and it *is* a fudge - uses a pretend variable, written into
a bit of hidden html. I doesn't work properly with a real variable (in
Opera, neither!) and I'm still looking for an un-fudged solution. Here
it is:
jQuery.imagesOn = function(){
$('img src=' + '/images/bgimage.jpg' + '#' + Math.random() + '/'
).load(function() {
$('#noimages').attr(href, '/styles/gotimages.css');
$('.imagecheck').html('On');
});
if ( $('.imagecheck').val() != 'On' ) {
$('#noimages').attr(href, '/styles/imagefree.css');
}
}
So - well, any comment must be a helpful comment ;)
Cheers,
Cherry
On Feb 21, 3:00 am, timothytoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah, the first Windows version didn't seem able to run for 5 minutes
without crashing violently. I hated it.
The JavaScript has gotten so fast in that browser that a nasty bit of
statistics code I run takes 35 seconds on Firefox and 20 seconds in
Safari, so I've really started to like Safari. :-)
As for Opera, I'm having my own problems with it. It's the only
browser my code isn't running on right now, and I haven't had time to
figure out why. For me, it's not really Opera's fault. After all, IE
causes me the most trouble by far, but I try it every couple days to
make sure it's still working.
Explain to me what you're doing. Doesn't Math.Random() give you a
number from 0 to 1? Is that really your code? Do you really have a #
in there? If so, why isn't it part of the previous string?
On Feb 20, 6:22 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Aha! My good reason(s) were that an earlier beta repeatedly crashed my
machine, and I'm fed up with Apple's creeping-startup-takeover
strategy. But the current Safari version installed without a hitch; I
guess I'll have to either live with the startups, or spend some time
killing them ;) Thanks for the heads-up TT!
The page looks the same in Safari as in Firefox ie (phew!).
So what's up with Opera?
On Feb 21, 1:54 am, timothytoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Safari for Windows is a pretty good browser now, especially if you
want to have a good idea whether you'll run on Mac Safari (and
iPhone). Is there a reason you're not testing with it as well?
On Feb 20, 3:45 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Admittedly, the function in question is my own home-fudged one. It
depends on:
$('img src=' + '/images/thelogo.png' + '#' + Math.random() + '/
' ).load(function() {
Firefox and IE (hurrah) behave as required. Opera doesn't
register the
changed 'variable' (an .html() function), but loads the no-images
stylesheet anyway. Do you understand why this might be?
As I haven't got a Mac, I tend to trust that Opera will be at
least as
demanding as Safari. The thought of all Mac and Opera users
getting
the image-free version by default scares me to death!
I haven't found any relevant documentation. I know this group
houses
some really hot browser experts - so am pleading for insight
advice ...
Cherry :/- Hide quoted text -
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[jQuery] Re: is there a secret to jQuery with Opera?
I deserve that! I have provided a PHP style switcher, though, so all that's lost is the unobtrusive stylesheet serving with Javascript.. Before I started playing with all this js, I hadn't realised how difficult it is to get everything working as it should do with all the browsers. Knowing less than nothing about how browsers actually work, I have no view on why this might be! Like other developers, I'm under increasing pressure to incorporate more 'action' - meaning, more Javascript Flash - and am starting to feel pretty annoyed that it seems impossible, without sacrificing useability. Which probably brings me back to where I was before, so I'll shut up now!! Cherry ;) On Feb 21, 7:23 pm, Ariel Flesler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've simply made the function unavailable to Opera. Thank goodness it's not all that popular! ...and then you complain about accessibility... :-) Ariel Flesler
[jQuery] Re: is there a secret to jQuery with Opera?
I think numeric-only ids can cause troubles.
Ariel Flesler
On 20 feb, 20:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Admittedly, the function in question is my own home-fudged one. It
depends on:
$('img src=' + '/images/thelogo.png' + '#' + Math.random() + '/
' ).load(function() {
Firefox and IE (hurrah) behave as required. Opera doesn't register the
changed 'variable' (an .html() function), but loads the no-images
stylesheet anyway. Do you understand why this might be?
As I haven't got a Mac, I tend to trust that Opera will be at least as
demanding as Safari. The thought of all Mac and Opera users getting
the image-free version by default scares me to death!
I haven't found any relevant documentation. I know this group houses
some really hot browser experts - so am pleading for insight
advice ...
Cherry :/
[jQuery] Re: is there a secret to jQuery with Opera?
Argh.. saw the # and thought id... ignore my last post.
Ariel Flesler
On 20 feb, 21:57, Ariel Flesler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think numeric-only ids can cause troubles.
Ariel Flesler
On 20 feb, 20:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Admittedly, the function in question is my own home-fudged one. It
depends on:
$('img src=' + '/images/thelogo.png' + '#' + Math.random() + '/
' ).load(function() {
Firefox and IE (hurrah) behave as required. Opera doesn't register the
changed 'variable' (an .html() function), but loads the no-images
stylesheet anyway. Do you understand why this might be?
As I haven't got a Mac, I tend to trust that Opera will be at least as
demanding as Safari. The thought of all Mac and Opera users getting
the image-free version by default scares me to death!
I haven't found any relevant documentation. I know this group houses
some really hot browser experts - so am pleading for insight
advice ...
Cherry :/- Ocultar texto de la cita -
- Mostrar texto de la cita -
[jQuery] Re: is there a secret to jQuery with Opera?
Safari for Windows is a pretty good browser now, especially if you
want to have a good idea whether you'll run on Mac Safari (and
iPhone). Is there a reason you're not testing with it as well?
On Feb 20, 3:45 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Admittedly, the function in question is my own home-fudged one. It
depends on:
$('img src=' + '/images/thelogo.png' + '#' + Math.random() + '/
' ).load(function() {
Firefox and IE (hurrah) behave as required. Opera doesn't register the
changed 'variable' (an .html() function), but loads the no-images
stylesheet anyway. Do you understand why this might be?
As I haven't got a Mac, I tend to trust that Opera will be at least as
demanding as Safari. The thought of all Mac and Opera users getting
the image-free version by default scares me to death!
I haven't found any relevant documentation. I know this group houses
some really hot browser experts - so am pleading for insight
advice ...
Cherry :/
[jQuery] Re: is there a secret to jQuery with Opera?
Aha! My good reason(s) were that an earlier beta repeatedly crashed my
machine, and I'm fed up with Apple's creeping-startup-takeover
strategy. But the current Safari version installed without a hitch; I
guess I'll have to either live with the startups, or spend some time
killing them ;) Thanks for the heads-up TT!
The page looks the same in Safari as in Firefox ie (phew!).
So what's up with Opera?
On Feb 21, 1:54 am, timothytoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Safari for Windows is a pretty good browser now, especially if you
want to have a good idea whether you'll run on Mac Safari (and
iPhone). Is there a reason you're not testing with it as well?
On Feb 20, 3:45 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Admittedly, the function in question is my own home-fudged one. It
depends on:
$('img src=' + '/images/thelogo.png' + '#' + Math.random() + '/
' ).load(function() {
Firefox and IE (hurrah) behave as required. Opera doesn't register the
changed 'variable' (an .html() function), but loads the no-images
stylesheet anyway. Do you understand why this might be?
As I haven't got a Mac, I tend to trust that Opera will be at least as
demanding as Safari. The thought of all Mac and Opera users getting
the image-free version by default scares me to death!
I haven't found any relevant documentation. I know this group houses
some really hot browser experts - so am pleading for insight
advice ...
Cherry :/
[jQuery] Re: is there a secret to jQuery with Opera?
Oh que pena Ariel! Saw your name here thought Yippee!
Well, yippee anyway :))
Not a numeric ID, however. I did that the first time I blended PHP
with Javascript ... fabulous project; took me ages to realise what had
gone wrong ;)
I really can't understand what Opera's doing. I've tried moving the
CSS jQuery links around. If anything, it seems to be loading *all*
the stylesheets at once! Does Opera think for itself??
I'd post a link, but the page is such a mess it wouldn't help.
On Feb 21, 12:59 am, Ariel Flesler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Argh.. saw the # and thought id... ignore my last post.
Ariel Flesler
On 20 feb, 21:57, Ariel Flesler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think numeric-only ids can cause troubles.
Ariel Flesler
On 20 feb, 20:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Admittedly, the function in question is my own home-fudged one. It
depends on:
$('img src=' + '/images/thelogo.png' + '#' + Math.random() + '/
' ).load(function() {
Firefox and IE (hurrah) behave as required. Opera doesn't register the
changed 'variable' (an .html() function), but loads the no-images
stylesheet anyway. Do you understand why this might be?
As I haven't got a Mac, I tend to trust that Opera will be at least as
demanding as Safari. The thought of all Mac and Opera users getting
the image-free version by default scares me to death!
I haven't found any relevant documentation. I know this group houses
some really hot browser experts - so am pleading for insight
advice ...
Cherry :/- Ocultar texto de la cita -
- Mostrar texto de la cita -
[jQuery] Re: is there a secret to jQuery with Opera?
Yeah, the first Windows version didn't seem able to run for 5 minutes
without crashing violently. I hated it.
The JavaScript has gotten so fast in that browser that a nasty bit of
statistics code I run takes 35 seconds on Firefox and 20 seconds in
Safari, so I've really started to like Safari. :-)
As for Opera, I'm having my own problems with it. It's the only
browser my code isn't running on right now, and I haven't had time to
figure out why. For me, it's not really Opera's fault. After all, IE
causes me the most trouble by far, but I try it every couple days to
make sure it's still working.
Explain to me what you're doing. Doesn't Math.Random() give you a
number from 0 to 1? Is that really your code? Do you really have a #
in there? If so, why isn't it part of the previous string?
On Feb 20, 6:22 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Aha! My good reason(s) were that an earlier beta repeatedly crashed my
machine, and I'm fed up with Apple's creeping-startup-takeover
strategy. But the current Safari version installed without a hitch; I
guess I'll have to either live with the startups, or spend some time
killing them ;) Thanks for the heads-up TT!
The page looks the same in Safari as in Firefox ie (phew!).
So what's up with Opera?
On Feb 21, 1:54 am, timothytoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Safari for Windows is a pretty good browser now, especially if you
want to have a good idea whether you'll run on Mac Safari (and
iPhone). Is there a reason you're not testing with it as well?
On Feb 20, 3:45 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Admittedly, the function in question is my own home-fudged one. It
depends on:
$('img src=' + '/images/thelogo.png' + '#' + Math.random() + '/
' ).load(function() {
Firefox and IE (hurrah) behave as required. Opera doesn't register the
changed 'variable' (an .html() function), but loads the no-images
stylesheet anyway. Do you understand why this might be?
As I haven't got a Mac, I tend to trust that Opera will be at least as
demanding as Safari. The thought of all Mac and Opera users getting
the image-free version by default scares me to death!
I haven't found any relevant documentation. I know this group houses
some really hot browser experts - so am pleading for insight
advice ...
Cherry :/
[jQuery] Re: is there a secret to jQuery with Opera?
Glad I'm not the only one :)
My code - and it *is* a fudge - uses a pretend variable, written into
a bit of hidden html. I doesn't work properly with a real variable (in
Opera, neither!) and I'm still looking for an un-fudged solution. Here
it is:
jQuery.imagesOn = function(){
$('img src=' + '/images/bgimage.jpg' + '#' + Math.random() + '/
' ).load(function() {
$('#noimages').attr(href, '/styles/gotimages.css');
$('.imagecheck').html('On');
});
if ( $('.imagecheck').val() != 'On' ) {
$('#noimages').attr(href, '/styles/imagefree.css');
}
}
So - well, any comment must be a helpful comment ;)
Cheers,
Cherry
On Feb 21, 3:00 am, timothytoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah, the first Windows version didn't seem able to run for 5 minutes
without crashing violently. I hated it.
The JavaScript has gotten so fast in that browser that a nasty bit of
statistics code I run takes 35 seconds on Firefox and 20 seconds in
Safari, so I've really started to like Safari. :-)
As for Opera, I'm having my own problems with it. It's the only
browser my code isn't running on right now, and I haven't had time to
figure out why. For me, it's not really Opera's fault. After all, IE
causes me the most trouble by far, but I try it every couple days to
make sure it's still working.
Explain to me what you're doing. Doesn't Math.Random() give you a
number from 0 to 1? Is that really your code? Do you really have a #
in there? If so, why isn't it part of the previous string?
On Feb 20, 6:22 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Aha! My good reason(s) were that an earlier beta repeatedly crashed my
machine, and I'm fed up with Apple's creeping-startup-takeover
strategy. But the current Safari version installed without a hitch; I
guess I'll have to either live with the startups, or spend some time
killing them ;) Thanks for the heads-up TT!
The page looks the same in Safari as in Firefox ie (phew!).
So what's up with Opera?
On Feb 21, 1:54 am, timothytoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Safari for Windows is a pretty good browser now, especially if you
want to have a good idea whether you'll run on Mac Safari (and
iPhone). Is there a reason you're not testing with it as well?
On Feb 20, 3:45 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Admittedly, the function in question is my own home-fudged one. It
depends on:
$('img src=' + '/images/thelogo.png' + '#' + Math.random() + '/
' ).load(function() {
Firefox and IE (hurrah) behave as required. Opera doesn't register the
changed 'variable' (an .html() function), but loads the no-images
stylesheet anyway. Do you understand why this might be?
As I haven't got a Mac, I tend to trust that Opera will be at least as
demanding as Safari. The thought of all Mac and Opera users getting
the image-free version by default scares me to death!
I haven't found any relevant documentation. I know this group houses
some really hot browser experts - so am pleading for insight
advice ...
Cherry :/
