RE: Re[2]: JRUN Stability

2004-04-13 Thread Jon Austin
Thanks to all for their input on this topic,

I am getting more resource directed to this in the next day or, so, and will
be running through some of the troubleshooting tips given here.

I understand that many of you are running successfully, with many concurrent
users, the question now, I have for those people, is what kind of scope is
your application?

Are we simply talking glorified web-sites with a little processing behind
them, or are we talking full hard-code business applications.

Our application falls heavily on the latter, and before I base conclusions
on other peoples abilities to produce results under this environment, I want
to be sure that we're in the same ballpark.

One error which a user did capture during a server-halt the other day, was :

Too many concurrent requests, jcp.endpoint.main.max.threads exceeded.

I found documents on how to resolve this on JRUN3.. but none of the files
that are referenced in that document, exist on my JRUN4 implimenation.Does
anyone know where I can find the new settings fro JRUN4.

Thanks

~ Jon
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RE: Re[2]: JRUN Stability

2004-04-13 Thread Dave Watts
 Are we simply talking glorified web-sites with a little 
 processing behind them, or are we talking full hard-code 
 business applications.

We (and our clients) are running applications and content management systems
with JRun. Both of these tend to be very dynamic.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
phone: 202-797-5496
fax: 202-797-5444
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RE: Re[2]: JRUN Stability- reply

2004-04-13 Thread Kathy Vance
Jon,

I have the same problem while I did loading testing on
JRun 4. We spent $500 for macromedia tech support in
order to solve the issue.

Please check your jrun.xml. There is a service called
ProxyService. You need to increase the value of the
attribute named activeHandlerThreads to a number
based on how busy your app is. I remember the default
value is 15.

Also, You can turn on Metrics logging to decide how
many threads you need.

Sometimes you could get the same error mentioned while
using jsp forward tag. But I believe that Updater 3
may solve forwarding issue on JRun 4.

for your info,

Kathy


--- Jon Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks to all for their input on this topic,
 
 I am getting more resource directed to this in the
 next day or, so, and will
 be running through some of the troubleshooting tips
 given here.
 
 I understand that many of you are running
 successfully, with many concurrent
 users, the question now, I have for those people, is
 what kind of scope is
 your application?
 
 Are we simply talking glorified web-sites with a
 little processing behind
 them, or are we talking full hard-code business
 applications.
 
 Our application falls heavily on the latter, and
 before I base conclusions
 on other peoples abilities to produce results under
 this environment, I want
 to be sure that we're in the same ballpark.
 
 
 One error which a user did capture during a
 server-halt the other day, was :
 
 Too many concurrent requests,
 jcp.endpoint.main.max.threads exceeded.
 
 I found documents on how to resolve this on JRUN3..
 but none of the files
 that are referenced in that document, exist on my
 JRUN4 implimenation.Does
 anyone know where I can find the new settings fro
 JRUN4.
 
 Thanks
 
 ~ Jon
 
 

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RE: Re[2]: JRUN Stability - one more thing

2004-04-13 Thread Kathy Vance
Jon,

One more thing is if you are using JRun web service,
the service you may look into in jrun.xml is
WebService.

Good luck.

Kathy

--- Jon Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks to all for their input on this topic,
 
 I am getting more resource directed to this in the
 next day or, so, and will
 be running through some of the troubleshooting tips
 given here.
 
 I understand that many of you are running
 successfully, with many concurrent
 users, the question now, I have for those people, is
 what kind of scope is
 your application?
 
 Are we simply talking glorified web-sites with a
 little processing behind
 them, or are we talking full hard-code business
 applications.
 
 Our application falls heavily on the latter, and
 before I base conclusions
 on other peoples abilities to produce results under
 this environment, I want
 to be sure that we're in the same ballpark.
 
 
 One error which a user did capture during a
 server-halt the other day, was :
 
 Too many concurrent requests,
 jcp.endpoint.main.max.threads exceeded.
 
 I found documents on how to resolve this on JRUN3..
 but none of the files
 that are referenced in that document, exist on my
 JRUN4 implimenation.Does
 anyone know where I can find the new settings fro
 JRUN4.
 
 Thanks
 
 ~ Jon
 
 

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RE: Re[2]: JRUN Stability- reply

2004-04-13 Thread Jon Austin
Thanks for the advice!..

I have Metrics turned on currently, monitoring every 20 seconds, and I get
0/0, 0 Sessions..

It does specifically say Web-Threads so, I looked for an additional setting
for the proxy, (as we're using the JRUN connector via IIS on another server)
but that was the only metrics option in the jrun.xml file.

~ Jon

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From: Kathy Vance [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jon,

I have the same problem while I did loading testing on
JRun 4. We spent $500 for macromedia tech support in
order to solve the issue.

Please check your jrun.xml. There is a service called
ProxyService. You need to increase the value of the
attribute named activeHandlerThreads to a number
based on how busy your app is. I remember the default
value is 15.

Also, You can turn on Metrics logging to decide how
many threads you need.

Sometimes you could get the same error mentioned while
using jsp forward tag. But I believe that Updater 3
may solve forwarding issue on JRun 4.

for your info,

Kathy


--- Jon Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks to all for their input on this topic,

 I am getting more resource directed to this in the
 next day or, so, and will
 be running through some of the troubleshooting tips
 given here.

 I understand that many of you are running
 successfully, with many concurrent
 users, the question now, I have for those people, is
 what kind of scope is
 your application?

 Are we simply talking glorified web-sites with a
 little processing behind
 them, or are we talking full hard-code business
 applications.

 Our application falls heavily on the latter, and
 before I base conclusions
 on other peoples abilities to produce results under
 this environment, I want
 to be sure that we're in the same ballpark.


 One error which a user did capture during a
 server-halt the other day, was :

 Too many concurrent requests,
 jcp.endpoint.main.max.threads exceeded.

 I found documents on how to resolve this on JRUN3..
 but none of the files
 that are referenced in that document, exist on my
 JRUN4 implimenation.Does
 anyone know where I can find the new settings fro
 JRUN4.

 Thanks

 ~ Jon



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Re: JRUN Stability- reply

2004-04-13 Thread Ben Groeneveld
This is true; to achieve high levels of concurrency we run with

attribute name=activeHandlerThreads2000/attribute

attribute name=maxHandlerThreads2000/attribute

Hope that helps, BenG.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks for the advice!..

 I have Metrics turned on currently, monitoring every 20 seconds, and I get
 0/0, 0 Sessions..

 It does specifically say Web-Threads so, I looked for an additional 
 setting
 for the proxy, (as we're using the JRUN connector via IIS on another 
 server)
 but that was the only metrics option in the jrun.xml file.

 ~ Jon

 -Original Message-
 From: Kathy Vance [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Jon,

 I have the same problem while I did loading testing on
 JRun 4. We spent $500 for macromedia tech support in
 order to solve the issue.

 Please check your jrun.xml. There is a service called
 ProxyService. You need to increase the value of the
 attribute named activeHandlerThreads to a number
 based on how busy your app is. I remember the default
 value is 15.

 Also, You can turn on Metrics logging to decide how
 many threads you need.

 Sometimes you could get the same error mentioned while
 using jsp forward tag. But I believe that Updater 3
 may solve forwarding issue on JRun 4.

 for your info,

 Kathy


 --- Jon Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks to all for their input on this topic,
 
  I am getting more resource directed to this in the
  next day or, so, and will
  be running through some of the troubleshooting tips
  given here.
 
  I understand that many of you are running
  successfully, with many concurrent
  users, the question now, I have for those people, is
  what kind of scope is
  your application?
 
  Are we simply talking glorified web-sites with a
  little processing behind
  them, or are we talking full hard-code business
  applications.
 
  Our application falls heavily on the latter, and
  before I base conclusions
  on other peoples abilities to produce results under
  this environment, I want
  to be sure that we're in the same ballpark.
 
 
  One error which a user did capture during a
  server-halt the other day, was :
 
  Too many concurrent requests,
  jcp.endpoint.main.max.threads exceeded.
 
  I found documents on how to resolve this on JRUN3..
  but none of the files
  that are referenced in that document, exist on my
  JRUN4 implimenation.Does
  anyone know where I can find the new settings fro
  JRUN4.
 
  Thanks
 
  ~ Jon
 
 
 

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Re: JRUN Stability- reply 2

2004-04-13 Thread Kathy Vance
Ben,

How is the stability and performance of JRun server
after you set activeHandlerThreads to 2000? Usually
the number of the maxHandlerThreads should be bigger
than activeHandlerThreads? As I understand, JRun would
not perform well if the number of activeHandlerThreads
is too big. Could you share your experience here? How
busy would the traffic be on your site and is your
site running in UNIX box? Thanks.

Kathy

--- Ben Groeneveld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is true; to achieve high levels of concurrency
 we run with
 
 attribute
 name=activeHandlerThreads2000/attribute
 
 attribute name=maxHandlerThreads2000/attribute
 
 
 Hope that helps, BenG.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Thanks for the advice!..
 
  I have Metrics turned on currently, monitoring
 every 20 seconds, and I get
  0/0, 0 Sessions..
 
  It does specifically say Web-Threads so, I looked
 for an additional 
  setting
  for the proxy, (as we're using the JRUN connector
 via IIS on another 
  server)
  but that was the only metrics option in the
 jrun.xml file.
 
  ~ Jon
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kathy Vance [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Jon,
 
  I have the same problem while I did loading
 testing on
  JRun 4. We spent $500 for macromedia tech support
 in
  order to solve the issue.
 
  Please check your jrun.xml. There is a service
 called
  ProxyService. You need to increase the value of
 the
  attribute named activeHandlerThreads to a number
  based on how busy your app is. I remember the
 default
  value is 15.
 
  Also, You can turn on Metrics logging to decide
 how
  many threads you need.
 
  Sometimes you could get the same error mentioned
 while
  using jsp forward tag. But I believe that Updater
 3
  may solve forwarding issue on JRun 4.
 
  for your info,
 
  Kathy
 
 
  --- Jon Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Thanks to all for their input on this topic,
  
   I am getting more resource directed to this in
 the
   next day or, so, and will
   be running through some of the troubleshooting
 tips
   given here.
  
   I understand that many of you are running
   successfully, with many concurrent
   users, the question now, I have for those
 people, is
   what kind of scope is
   your application?
  
   Are we simply talking glorified web-sites with a
   little processing behind
   them, or are we talking full hard-code business
   applications.
  
   Our application falls heavily on the latter, and
   before I base conclusions
   on other peoples abilities to produce results
 under
   this environment, I want
   to be sure that we're in the same ballpark.
  
  
   One error which a user did capture during a
   server-halt the other day, was :
  
   Too many concurrent requests,
   jcp.endpoint.main.max.threads exceeded.
  
   I found documents on how to resolve this on
 JRUN3..
   but none of the files
   that are referenced in that document, exist on
 my
   JRUN4 implimenation.Does
   anyone know where I can find the new settings
 fro
   JRUN4.
  
   Thanks
  
   ~ Jon
  
  
  
  
 

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