RE: Is JRun still relevant?
Yes, it is still relevant. Apart from the fact that it is the server platform for several major MM products (CF, Breeze, Flex, Contribute3, etc.), there are many customers out there, large and small, who value JRun as a low cost, fast, reliable J2EE app server. It remains a profitable and viable product for Macromedia. -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:02 AM To: JRun-Talk Subject: Is JRun still relevant? Is JRun still relevant? Is it still used other than as a platform for CF? ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:8:5646 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/8 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:8 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.8 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Is JRun still relevant?
I have a customer site on it. From my determination, it seems that people are using it for applications developed for it that only need minor tweaks now and again. Or are complex enough that porting it would be a hassle. Of course that's a gross generalization. Also, the utilization with Flex is a possible avenue. But I have no idea if that's happening. I'll be curious to hear the response. Personally, I wish it would at least keep up with the J2EE standards, if nothing else. It's nice to have a low-cost, supported app server out there. -Drew Falkman -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 11:02 PM To: JRun-Talk Subject: Is JRun still relevant? Is JRun still relevant? Is it still used other than as a platform for CF? ~| Save $10 Download ZoneAlarm Security Suite http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=66 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:8:5647 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/8 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:8 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.8 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Is JRun still relevant?
I'll be curious to hear the response. Personally, I wish it would at least keep up with the J2EE standards, if nothing else. It's nice to have a low-cost, supported app server out there. Until last year we had one large customer application running on JRun, because as Drew says, it was a low-cost supported app server. But we eventually moved it to Tomcat, partly because of cost, partly because as a project Tomcat shows considerably more signs of life and is a much more mature product than when we chose JRun four years ago. We do still use JRun as well as Tomcat for development, testing and some deployment of our web platform for content/workflow/project management. But even though it has Flash front ends, we don't use any JRun-specific features at all, let alone Flex, Flash Remoting, or any other server-side components (apart from the DBMS) that aren't part of any plain vanilla J2EE server. Nick ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:8:5648 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/8 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:8 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.8 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Is JRun still relevant?
Also an interesting time to raise such a question Just as Adobe are aquiring MM. That, alongside JRUN's relative dormance for the past couple of years+. With many people moving to Tomcat, for the reasons already stated in this topic, you have to wonder how Adobe will treat JRUN. ~ Jon ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:8:5649 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/8 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:8 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.8 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Is JRun still relevant?
The problem I see with the results is that there is nothing there which makes it stand out as a remarkable alternative to the free offering of Tomcat. My personal experience with JRUN has been that compared to tomcat, everything is a struggle.. Installation with Tomcat was a breeze, and with JRUN (Admittedly because we use it coupled with CFMX) we have 3 pages of handwritten notes from the macromedia support tech who was assigned to our case when the installers failed us.. and if we deviate even slightly from those instructions, we have to uninstall and start again.. Deploying a Hibernate/Spring MVC application under Tomcat, was as simple as copying the folder structure. Deploying under JRUN, required a custom compile of Proxool, due to a JRUN Quirk and plenty of trial and error to determine which Jar's go where.. When I move forward, given the choice, I'm not going to pay for JRUN, when I can get less hassle from Tomcat. I have yet to find anything that stands out enough about JRUN which would convince me that I would get value for money from JRUN. I think it will be interesting to see which way Adobe go with JRUN, and I think alot of people are wondering the same. ~ Jon -Original Message- From: Alex Hubner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It's nice to take a look on this: http://www.webperformanceinc.com/library/ServletReport/ Jrun is a hell of a good J2EE server. No reason to drop it IMHO. []'s Alex 1 -Mensagem original- De: Jon Austin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Also an interesting time to raise such a question Just as Adobe are aquiring MM. That, alongside JRUN's relative dormance for the past couple of years+. With many people moving to Tomcat, for the reasons already stated in this topic, you have to wonder how Adobe will treat JRUN. ~ Jon ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:8:5651 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/8 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:8 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.8 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
