Re: newbie questions - clustering
At Wed, 9 Jan 2002 08:23:35 -0500 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Yes. It is a Jini-federation. I'm interested :) JINI-Rio-Magellan also reportedly do export JNDI stuffs as JINI services (http://swjscmail1.java.sun.com/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0109&L=jini-users&P=R10042) is it going to be somewhat like that or very much different? __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jrun-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: newbie questions - clustering
One other item...the implementation is very efficient when it comes to network traffic. It only uses multicast to discover new servers in the cluster. All other communication is unicast. -Original Message- From: Justin MacCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 6:09 PM To: JRun-Talk Subject: RE: newbie questions - clustering Interesting, it that a Jini Federation ??? Do you know if it will be possible to use the developer edition in a cluster configeration for testing over a decent length of time ? It would be interested in looking at the network traffic in a configeration such as that, lots of multicast (discovery, join, and lookup) and In-memory replication. Well I guess I'll find out all this when the beta is out :-) Great excuse to build that test cluster I want Thanks Justin > -Original Message- > From: Mark Field [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:32 PM > To: JRun-Talk > Subject: RE: newbie questions - clustering > > > Yes. In-memory replication for stateful session beans is supported. > We will provide a shared global JNDI cluster tree and a federation of > server trees. > __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jrun-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: newbie questions - clustering
Yes. It is a Jini-federation. -Original Message- From: Justin MacCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 6:09 PM To: JRun-Talk Subject: RE: newbie questions - clustering Interesting, it that a Jini Federation ??? Do you know if it will be possible to use the developer edition in a cluster configeration for testing over a decent length of time ? It would be interested in looking at the network traffic in a configeration such as that, lots of multicast (discovery, join, and lookup) and In-memory replication. Well I guess I'll find out all this when the beta is out :-) Great excuse to build that test cluster I want Thanks Justin > -Original Message- > From: Mark Field [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:32 PM > To: JRun-Talk > Subject: RE: newbie questions - clustering > > > Yes. In-memory replication for stateful session beans is supported. > We will provide a shared global JNDI cluster tree and a federation of > server trees. > __ Macromedia ColdFusion 5 Training from the Source Step by Step ColdFusion http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0201758474/houseoffusion Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jrun-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: newbie questions - clustering
Interesting, it that a Jini Federation ??? Do you know if it will be possible to use the developer edition in a cluster configeration for testing over a decent length of time ? It would be interested in looking at the network traffic in a configeration such as that, lots of multicast (discovery, join, and lookup) and In-memory replication. Well I guess I'll find out all this when the beta is out :-) Great excuse to build that test cluster I want Thanks Justin > -Original Message- > From: Mark Field [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:32 PM > To: JRun-Talk > Subject: RE: newbie questions - clustering > > > Yes. In-memory replication for stateful session beans is supported. > We will provide a shared global JNDI cluster tree and a federation of > server trees. > __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jrun-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: newbie questions - clustering
Yes. In-memory replication for stateful session beans is supported. We will provide a shared global JNDI cluster tree and a federation of server trees. And, yes, Nozomi and Neo will co-exist peacefully on the same machine, though I don't know whether or not this is the case during their respective betas. -Original Message- From: Justin (Home Office) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 7:55 PM To: JRun-Talk Subject: Re: newbie questions - clustering Hi Mark and list , >We find many people are now using hardware devices (such as Cisco Local Director and others) for this >type of clustering. Yes, this is our current situation > Second, every server object in the server is clustered too. By server object, I'm talking about EJB >components (stateful, stateless and entity ), JMS queues and topics, Server resources, JNDI trees and >any custom servi ce you build for JRun. This means that any resource your web application depends is >highly available. Load balancing across these resources is a lso supported. I should have been more specific .(as charlie suggested :-) ) This is th e area that I interested in. There doesn't seem to be many J2EE servers tha t currently support this. JBoss seems to be the only open-source one, and WebLogic does as well + a few others. Does this mean in-memory replicatio n for stateful session bean failover , and a shared global JNDI cluster tre e alá WebLogic 6.0 ??? > I encourage everyone to download the public beta of this release that w ill be available early next week. I will post instructions on how to access the beta once it is available. Excellent timing :-) >PS. Neo is built on J2EE technology. JRun will be the J2EE engine runn ing inside Neo. JRun will >continue to be available separate from Neo as Macromedia's full blown J2EE application server. Just one additional question regarding NEO, will NEO and Nozomi co-exist happily on the same machine? > Mark Thanks Justin __ Macromedia ColdFusion 5 Training from the Source Step by Step ColdFusion http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0201758474/houseoffusion Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jrun-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: newbie questions - clustering
Hi Mark and list , >We find many people are now using hardware devices (such as Cisco Local Director and others) for this >type of clustering. Yes, this is our current situation > Second, every server object in the server is clustered too. By server object, I'm talking about EJB >components (stateful, stateless and entity ), JMS queues and topics, Server resources, JNDI trees and >any custom servi ce you build for JRun. This means that any resource your web application depends is >highly available. Load balancing across these resources is a lso supported. I should have been more specific .(as charlie suggested :-) ) This is th e area that I interested in. There doesn't seem to be many J2EE servers tha t currently support this. JBoss seems to be the only open-source one, and WebLogic does as well + a few others. Does this mean in-memory replicatio n for stateful session bean failover , and a shared global JNDI cluster tre e alá WebLogic 6.0 ??? > I encourage everyone to download the public beta of this release that w ill be available early next week. I will post instructions on how to access the beta once it is available. Excellent timing :-) >PS. Neo is built on J2EE technology. JRun will be the J2EE engine runn ing inside Neo. JRun will >continue to be available separate from Neo as Macromedia's full blown J2EE application server. Just one additional question regarding NEO, will NEO and Nozomi co-exist happily on the same machine? > Mark Thanks Justin __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jrun-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: newbie questions - clustering
Hi, Currently, JRun Advanced Edition and Enterprise Edition ship with ClusterCATS. ClusterCATS provides HTTP load balancing and failover. This means it sits in front of your web servers and distributes requests across those servers. ClusterCATS receives application specific information from JRun so it makes intelligent choices about where to send traffic. ClusterCATS is suited for situations where the Web Server and Application Server reside on the same physical machine. We find many people are now using hardware devices (such as Cisco Local Director and others) for this type of clustering. The next release of JRun, code-named Nozomi, will implement clustering (load balancing and failover) in the application server itself. This will provide a much more robust clustering solution for JRun deployments. First, clustering functionality will reside in the Web Server Connectors themselves. This provides much better support for distributed configurations because load balancing can be done across the HTTP (web) servers with the JRun servers clustered behind them. This allows configurations where there are many HTTP servers and a few JRun servers, or vice versa. We will support Load Balancing, both canned algorithms and custom algorithms, and automatic failover. Session state is maintained the same way it is in JRun 3.1. Second, every server object in the server is clustered too. By server object, I'm talking about EJB components (stateful, stateless and entity), JMS queues and topics, Server resources, JNDI trees and any custom service you build for JRun. This means that any resource your web application depends is highly available. Load balancing across these resources is also supported. I encourage everyone to download the public beta of this release that will be available early next week. I will post instructions on how to access the beta once it is available. Mark PS. Neo is built on J2EE technology. JRun will be the J2EE engine running inside Neo. JRun will continue to be available separate from Neo as Macromedia's full blown J2EE application server. Mark Field JRun Product Management Macromedia, Inc (617) 219-7742 -Original Message- From: Justin MacCarthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 7:01 PM To: JRun-Talk Subject: newbie questions - clustering We are using CF currently, but are evaluating JRun & J2EE and possibly a mixed cf/java platform. I've read that the current version of JRun (3.1) does not support clustering. When is the next version release date, is there any info on the features that will be included in this area? Will JRun be part of the NEO ?? If you can point me towards any info, that would be excellent. Thanks ~J __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jrun-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: newbie questions - clustering
I wonder if Justin may have been referring to object clustering (EJB, etc.) rather than the ClusterCats aspect. Maybe someone from the Macromedia team can indicate whether that might be a part of the next release, though it may not be appropriate for them to even say yes or no while JRun 4 is still in beta. /charlie -Original Message- From: Drew Falkman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 3:41 PM To: JRun-Talk Subject: RE: newbie questions - clustering Justin- Where did you get this information regarding clustering? ClusterCATS is bundled with JRun 3.1 and is fully functional: http://www.macromedia.com/software/jrun/productinfo/features/ Additionally, you should read the FAQ regarding Neo and how it works with JRun: http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/resources/neo/faq/ Also, there is a whole section devoted to Neo for those interested: http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/resources/neo/ Basically, a toned-down JRun Server will be under Neo, but you will be able to run Neo directly on top of JRun (or any other J2EE-compliant server) Hope this helps... Drew Falkman -Original Message- From: Ben Groeneveld [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:34 AM To: JRun-Talk Subject: Re: newbie questions - clustering Is this true? One of my clients has just requested an estimate for a clustered system. I would also very much appreciate a response to this inquiry. Thanks, BenG. Justin MacCarthy wrote: >We are using CF currently, but are evaluating JRun & J2EE and possibly a >mixed cf/java platform. > >I've read that the current version of JRun (3.1) does not support >clustering. When is the next version release date, is there any info on the >features that will be included in this area? Will JRun be part of the NEO ?? > >If you can point me towards any info, that would be excellent. > >Thanks ~J > -- Ben Groeneveld Information Concepts, Inc., 115 N.W. Oregon, Suite 30, Bend, OR 97701 Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], phone:541.388.3611, cell:208.520.6488 __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jrun-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: newbie questions - clustering
Justin- Where did you get this information regarding clustering? ClusterCATS is bundled with JRun 3.1 and is fully functional: http://www.macromedia.com/software/jrun/productinfo/features/ Additionally, you should read the FAQ regarding Neo and how it works with JRun: http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/resources/neo/faq/ Also, there is a whole section devoted to Neo for those interested: http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/resources/neo/ Basically, a toned-down JRun Server will be under Neo, but you will be able to run Neo directly on top of JRun (or any other J2EE-compliant server) Hope this helps... Drew Falkman -Original Message- From: Ben Groeneveld [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:34 AM To: JRun-Talk Subject: Re: newbie questions - clustering Is this true? One of my clients has just requested an estimate for a clustered system. I would also very much appreciate a response to this inquiry. Thanks, BenG. Justin MacCarthy wrote: >We are using CF currently, but are evaluating JRun & J2EE and possibly a >mixed cf/java platform. > >I've read that the current version of JRun (3.1) does not support >clustering. When is the next version release date, is there any info on the >features that will be included in this area? Will JRun be part of the NEO ?? > >If you can point me towards any info, that would be excellent. > >Thanks ~J > -- Ben Groeneveld Information Concepts, Inc., 115 N.W. Oregon, Suite 30, Bend, OR 97701 Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], phone:541.388.3611, cell:208.520.6488 __ Macromedia ColdFusion 5 Training from the Source Step by Step ColdFusion http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0201758474/houseoffusion Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jrun-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: newbie questions - clustering
Is this true? One of my clients has just requested an estimate for a clustered system. I would also very much appreciate a response to this inquiry. Thanks, BenG. Justin MacCarthy wrote: >We are using CF currently, but are evaluating JRun & J2EE and possibly a >mixed cf/java platform. > >I've read that the current version of JRun (3.1) does not support >clustering. When is the next version release date, is there any info on the >features that will be included in this area? Will JRun be part of the NEO ?? > >If you can point me towards any info, that would be excellent. > >Thanks ~J > -- Ben Groeneveld Information Concepts, Inc., 115 N.W. Oregon, Suite 30, Bend, OR 97701 Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], phone:541.388.3611, cell:208.520.6488 __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jrun-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
newbie questions - clustering
We are using CF currently, but are evaluating JRun & J2EE and possibly a mixed cf/java platform. I've read that the current version of JRun (3.1) does not support clustering. When is the next version release date, is there any info on the features that will be included in this area? Will JRun be part of the NEO ?? If you can point me towards any info, that would be excellent. Thanks ~J __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jrun-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
