LXD on Manual incorrect resolv.conf

2018-06-26 Thread Tom Barber
Hi folks,

I’m trying to do a manual cloud with LXD containers within it.

When I manually launch and LXD container I get

nameserver 10.61.251.1
search lxd

If juju launches a container it gets:

nameserver 127.0.0.1
search ovh.net lxd

Which doesn’t connect to the interwebs and makes Juju sad. What can I do to
fix this?

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Re: LXD on Manual incorrect resolv.conf

2018-06-26 Thread Tim Penhey
Hi Tom,

What is your expectation on how the containers are getting their IP
addresses?

Also, which version of Juju?

Tim

On 27/06/18 08:29, Tom Barber wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> I’m trying to do a manual cloud with LXD containers within it.
> 
> When I manually launch and LXD container I get 
> 
> nameserver 10.61.251.1
> search lxd
> 
> If juju launches a container it gets:
> 
> nameserver 127.0.0.1
> search ovh.net  lxd
> 
> Which doesn’t connect to the interwebs and makes Juju sad. What can I do
> to fix this?
> 
> 
> Spicule Limited is registered in England & Wales. Company Number:
> 09954122. Registered office: First Floor, Telecom House, 125-135 Preston
> Road, Brighton, England, BN1 6AF. VAT No. 251478891.
> 
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Re: LXD on Manual incorrect resolv.conf

2018-06-26 Thread Tom Barber
I don’t have any expectation other than connectivity to the internet would
be nice because otherwise it makes juju quite hard :)

But irrespective of my expectations, if standalone LXD containers get a
resolv.conf that allows connection to the WWW, why doesn’t Juju, it seems
both reasonable and logical? I guess thats my expectation, considering the
containers need to apt-get etc.

Juju is 2.3.7

Tom


On 26 June 2018 at 21:57:21, Tim Penhey (tim.pen...@canonical.com) wrote:

Hi Tom,

What is your expectation on how the containers are getting their IP
addresses?

Also, which version of Juju?

Tim

On 27/06/18 08:29, Tom Barber wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I’m trying to do a manual cloud with LXD containers within it.
>
> When I manually launch and LXD container I get
>
> nameserver 10.61.251.1
> search lxd
>
> If juju launches a container it gets:
>
> nameserver 127.0.0.1
> search ovh.net  lxd
>
> Which doesn’t connect to the interwebs and makes Juju sad. What can I do
> to fix this?
>
>
> Spicule Limited is registered in England & Wales. Company Number:
> 09954122. Registered office: First Floor, Telecom House, 125-135 Preston
> Road, Brighton, England, BN1 6AF. VAT No. 251478891.
>
>
> All engagements are subject to Spicule Terms and Conditions of Business.
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Re: LXD on Manual incorrect resolv.conf

2018-06-26 Thread Tim Penhey
I guess I should have been more clear with respect to the IP addresses.

Clearly the container isn't being set up correctly if it can't reach out
and we should look into that.

When a container is started there are several options for how it gets an
IP address. The various default behaviours are different for different
providers.
 * there is the LXD default, which is to get an IP address from the
bridge subnet, and this container should be able to reach out, but
ingress to the container is limited to other things on the bridge.
 * getting an IP address from a DHCP server
 * using the fan


Tim

On 27/06/18 09:03, Tom Barber wrote:
> I don’t have any expectation other than connectivity to the internet
> would be nice because otherwise it makes juju quite hard :)
> 
> But irrespective of my expectations, if standalone LXD containers get a
> resolv.conf that allows connection to the WWW, why doesn’t Juju, it
> seems both reasonable and logical? I guess thats my expectation,
> considering the containers need to apt-get etc.
> 
> Juju is 2.3.7
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 26 June 2018 at 21:57:21, Tim Penhey (tim.pen...@canonical.com
> ) wrote:
> 
>> Hi Tom,
>>
>> What is your expectation on how the containers are getting their IP
>> addresses?
>>
>> Also, which version of Juju?
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On 27/06/18 08:29, Tom Barber wrote:
>> > Hi folks,
>> > 
>> > I’m trying to do a manual cloud with LXD containers within it.
>> > 
>> > When I manually launch and LXD container I get 
>> > 
>> > nameserver 10.61.251.1
>> > search lxd
>> > 
>> > If juju launches a container it gets:
>> > 
>> > nameserver 127.0.0.1
>> > search ovh.net   lxd
>> > 
>> > Which doesn’t connect to the interwebs and makes Juju sad. What can I do
>> > to fix this?
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Spicule Limited is registered in England & Wales. Company Number:
>> > 09954122. Registered office: First Floor, Telecom House, 125-135 Preston
>> > Road, Brighton, England, BN1 6AF. VAT No. 251478891.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > All engagements are subject to Spicule Terms and Conditions of Business.
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>> > whom it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential,
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Re: LXD on Manual incorrect resolv.conf

2018-06-26 Thread Tom Barber
Ah right, apologies, the IP address is provided by the LXD default bridge.


On 26 June 2018 at 22:31:12, Tim Penhey (tim.pen...@canonical.com) wrote:

I guess I should have been more clear with respect to the IP addresses.

Clearly the container isn't being set up correctly if it can't reach out
and we should look into that.

When a container is started there are several options for how it gets an
IP address. The various default behaviours are different for different
providers.
* there is the LXD default, which is to get an IP address from the
bridge subnet, and this container should be able to reach out, but
ingress to the container is limited to other things on the bridge.
* getting an IP address from a DHCP server
* using the fan


Tim

On 27/06/18 09:03, Tom Barber wrote:
> I don’t have any expectation other than connectivity to the internet
> would be nice because otherwise it makes juju quite hard :)
>
> But irrespective of my expectations, if standalone LXD containers get a
> resolv.conf that allows connection to the WWW, why doesn’t Juju, it
> seems both reasonable and logical? I guess thats my expectation,
> considering the containers need to apt-get etc.
>
> Juju is 2.3.7
>
> Tom
>
>
> On 26 June 2018 at 21:57:21, Tim Penhey (tim.pen...@canonical.com
> ) wrote:
>
>> Hi Tom,
>>
>> What is your expectation on how the containers are getting their IP
>> addresses?
>>
>> Also, which version of Juju?
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On 27/06/18 08:29, Tom Barber wrote:
>> > Hi folks,
>> >
>> > I’m trying to do a manual cloud with LXD containers within it.
>> >
>> > When I manually launch and LXD container I get
>> >
>> > nameserver 10.61.251.1
>> > search lxd
>> >
>> > If juju launches a container it gets:
>> >
>> > nameserver 127.0.0.1
>> > search ovh.net   lxd
>> >
>> > Which doesn’t connect to the interwebs and makes Juju sad. What can I
do
>> > to fix this?
>> >
>> >
>> > Spicule Limited is registered in England & Wales. Company Number:
>> > 09954122. Registered office: First Floor, Telecom House, 125-135
Preston
>> > Road, Brighton, England, BN1 6AF. VAT No. 251478891.
>> >
>> >
>> > All engagements are subject to Spicule Terms and Conditions of
Business.
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>> > whom it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential,
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>> > of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Spicule
Limited.
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>> > email.
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>> >
>> >
>>
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Re: LXD on Manual incorrect resolv.conf

2018-06-26 Thread Tim Penhey
Am I right in assuming that you are bringing up bionic containers?

On 27/06/18 10:09, Tom Barber wrote:
> Ah right, apologies, the IP address is provided by the LXD default bridge.
> 
> 
> On 26 June 2018 at 22:31:12, Tim Penhey (tim.pen...@canonical.com
> ) wrote:
> 
>> I guess I should have been more clear with respect to the IP addresses.
>>
>> Clearly the container isn't being set up correctly if it can't reach out
>> and we should look into that.
>>
>> When a container is started there are several options for how it gets an
>> IP address. The various default behaviours are different for different
>> providers.
>> * there is the LXD default, which is to get an IP address from the
>> bridge subnet, and this container should be able to reach out, but
>> ingress to the container is limited to other things on the bridge.
>> * getting an IP address from a DHCP server
>> * using the fan
>>
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On 27/06/18 09:03, Tom Barber wrote:
>> > I don’t have any expectation other than connectivity to the internet
>> > would be nice because otherwise it makes juju quite hard :)
>> >  
>> > But irrespective of my expectations, if standalone LXD containers get a
>> > resolv.conf that allows connection to the WWW, why doesn’t Juju, it
>> > seems both reasonable and logical? I guess thats my expectation,
>> > considering the containers need to apt-get etc.
>> >  
>> > Juju is 2.3.7
>> >  
>> > Tom
>> >  
>> >  
>> > On 26 June 2018 at 21:57:21, Tim Penhey (tim.pen...@canonical.com 
>> > 
>> > >) wrote:
>> >  
>> >> Hi Tom,
>> >>
>> >> What is your expectation on how the containers are getting their IP
>> >> addresses?
>> >>
>> >> Also, which version of Juju?
>> >>
>> >> Tim
>> >>
>> >> On 27/06/18 08:29, Tom Barber wrote:
>> >> > Hi folks,
>> >> >  
>> >> > I’m trying to do a manual cloud with LXD containers within it.
>> >> >  
>> >> > When I manually launch and LXD container I get 
>> >> >  
>> >> > nameserver 10.61.251.1
>> >> > search lxd
>> >> >  
>> >> > If juju launches a container it gets:
>> >> >  
>> >> > nameserver 127.0.0.1
>> >> > search ovh.net    lxd
>> >> >  
>> >> > Which doesn’t connect to the interwebs and makes Juju sad. What can I do
>> >> > to fix this?
>> >> >  
>> >> >  
>> >> > Spicule Limited is registered in England & Wales. Company Number:
>> >> > 09954122. Registered office: First Floor, Telecom House, 125-135 Preston
>> >> > Road, Brighton, England, BN1 6AF. VAT No. 251478891.
>> >> >  
>> >> >  
>> >> > All engagements are subject to Spicule Terms and Conditions of Business.
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>> >> > whom it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential,
>> >> > privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure, distributing or
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>> >> > of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Spicule Limited.
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>> >> >  
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