Re: Juju 2.0~ Local LXD provider workflows are awesome!

2016-02-03 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 03/02/16 12:09, James Page wrote:
>   juju create-model midonet-review
>   juju switch midonet-review

Thanks for the feedback James, it's great to see these bits coming
together so nicely :)

Should we automatically switch to a new model when you create it? I
suspect the common case is create-model-then-work-in-it rather than
create-model-then-do-something-else.

Thoughts?
Mark

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Re: Juju 2.0~ Local LXD provider workflows are awesome!

2016-02-03 Thread Jorge O. Castro
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 1:09 PM, James Page  wrote:
> Hope people find that all useful!

Indeed, we also have fresh documentation thanks to Peter Matulis. I've
been using these all week to spin up on lxd and juju:

https://jujucharms.com/docs/devel/config-LXD

As always everyone please feel free to open a PR or file an issue.

Also a huge +1 to the LXD/ZFS/Juju combination; all of these
performance improvements across the different parts of the stack are
really coming together.

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Re: Juju 2.0~ Local LXD provider workflows are awesome!

2016-02-03 Thread Antonio Rosales
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 1:09 PM, James Page  wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I've been using Juju 2.0 (built from source with an in-flight patch for LXD
> 2.0 right now - but that should be resolved soon) with the local LXD
> provider on Ubuntu Xenial development to test some work we've been doing to
> get OpenStack running on-top of LXD in a single machine.
>
> That's now working quite well (a few rough edges), but is not the main topic
> for my post.

This is solid, thanks for sharing here.

-Antonio

>
> 1) Multiple models, single controller
>
> Alongside LXD support, you can also create multiple models against a single
> controller, so I've been creating models to deploy, test and review specific
> pieces of work (reviewing the midonet charms right now for example):
>
>   juju bootstrap
>   juju create-model midonet-review
>   juju switch midonet-review
>
>  and then deploy away;  Not having to re-bootstrap a controller
> every-time I want to tear-down and redeploy, or push something new up for
> test optimizes my workflow nicely.
>
> 2) Tweaking container profiles
>
> For each model, Juju creates a profile in LXD (named juju-)- and
> its quite possible to make additions to that profile for your specific model
> requirements - here's the one we wrote for openstack-on-lxd:
>
> name: juju-openstack-on-lxd
> config:
>   boot.autostart: "true"
>   linux.kernel_modules: openvswitch,nbd,ip_tables,ip6_tables
>   security.nesting: "true"
>   security.privileged: "true"
> devices:
>   eth0:
> mtu: "9000"
> name: eth0
> nictype: bridged
> parent: lxcbr0
> type: nic
>   eth1:
> mtu: "9000"
> name: eth1
> nictype: bridged
> parent: lxcbr0
> type: nic
>   kvm:
> path: /dev/kvm
> type: unix-char
>   root:
> path: /
> type: disk
>   tun:
> path: /dev/net/tun
> type: unix-char
>
> This adds a-lot to the default profile, but at a high level ensures that
> each container gets two network interfaces with a high mtu to avoid packet
> fragmentation, can access a few devices required for virt networking and
> process management - and also switches the container into 'privileged' mode
> that we need for Open vSwitch support in a container right now (Tycho is
> working on fixing that so we can run unprivileged).  Read more about LXD
> profiles here:
>
>   https://github.com/lxc/lxd/blob/master/specs/configuration.md
>
> Editing is super easy - 'lxc profile edit '.
>
> 3) Pause/Resume containers
>
> I've found a few bits that LXD provides outside of Juju quite useful as well
> - specifically I've been away from regular power for the last few days, so
> I've been using the 'pause' feature of containers to freeze containers,
> stopping CPU consumption and making my battery last a alot longer without
> destroying and re-deploying the environment (which would consume far more
> battery anyway) - here's 'pause-juju':
>
>   for container in `lxc list | grep RUNNING | grep juju | awk '{ print $2
> }'`; do
>   lxc pause $container
>   done
>
> and 'resume-juju':
>
>   for container in `lxc list | grep FROZEN | grep juju | awk '{ print $2
> }'`; do
>   lxc start $container
>   done
>
> I'm doing this outside of Juju right now - but I think it would make a great
> feature!
>
> All container processes still consume memory, but stop consuming cpu cycles
> until resumed.
>
> Oh - and use the ZFS backend for LXD - its superfast!:
>
>
> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/11/06/using-lxd-with-a-file-based-zfs-pool-on-ubuntu-wily/
>
> Hope people find that all useful!
>
> Cheers
>
> James
>
>
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Re: Juju 2.0~ Local LXD provider workflows are awesome!

2016-02-03 Thread Louis Bouchard
Hi,

Le 03/02/2016 14:23, Mark Shuttleworth a écrit :
> On 03/02/16 12:09, James Page wrote:
>>   juju create-model midonet-review
>>   juju switch midonet-review
> 
> Thanks for the feedback James, it's great to see these bits coming
> together so nicely :)
> 
> Should we automatically switch to a new model when you create it? I
> suspect the common case is create-model-then-work-in-it rather than
> create-model-then-do-something-else.
> 

Don't we all love 'git checkout -b' to land into the newly created branch ???

How about juju create-model -b  ;-)


> Thoughts?
> Mark
> 

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Re: Juju 2.0~ Local LXD provider workflows are awesome!

2016-02-03 Thread James Page
On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 at 13:23 Mark Shuttleworth  wrote:

> On 03/02/16 12:09, James Page wrote:
> >   juju create-model midonet-review
> >   juju switch midonet-review
>
> Thanks for the feedback James, it's great to see these bits coming
> together so nicely :)
>
> Should we automatically switch to a new model when you create it? I
> suspect the common case is create-model-then-work-in-it rather than
> create-model-then-do-something-else.


Actually we do the auto switch already - the switch in my example is not
required (just tested with a new model).
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Re: Juju 2.0~ Local LXD provider workflows are awesome!

2016-02-03 Thread Rick Harding
Yes it's intended to auto switch for you. If it does not we need to correct
it.

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016, 2:49 PM James Page  wrote:

> On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 at 13:23 Mark Shuttleworth  wrote:
>
>> On 03/02/16 12:09, James Page wrote:
>> >   juju create-model midonet-review
>> >   juju switch midonet-review
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback James, it's great to see these bits coming
>> together so nicely :)
>>
>> Should we automatically switch to a new model when you create it? I
>> suspect the common case is create-model-then-work-in-it rather than
>> create-model-then-do-something-else.
>
>
> Actually we do the auto switch already - the switch in my example is not
> required (just tested with a new model).
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Re: Juju 2.0~ Local LXD provider workflows are awesome!

2016-02-03 Thread Marco Ceppi
I think in 2.0-alpha1 it does not, but as James mentioned he's running a
little closer to alpha2/alpha3 version (from master) which appears to
implement this so it's just a matter of alpha software is alpha :)

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:20 AM Rick Harding 
wrote:

> Yes it's intended to auto switch for you. If it does not we need to
> correct it.
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016, 2:49 PM James Page  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 at 13:23 Mark Shuttleworth  wrote:
>>
>>> On 03/02/16 12:09, James Page wrote:
>>> >   juju create-model midonet-review
>>> >   juju switch midonet-review
>>>
>>> Thanks for the feedback James, it's great to see these bits coming
>>> together so nicely :)
>>>
>>> Should we automatically switch to a new model when you create it? I
>>> suspect the common case is create-model-then-work-in-it rather than
>>> create-model-then-do-something-else.
>>
>>
>> Actually we do the auto switch already - the switch in my example is not
>> required (just tested with a new model).
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Re: Juju 2.0~ Local LXD provider workflows are awesome!

2016-02-03 Thread Tim Penhey
On 04/02/16 02:23, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
> On 03/02/16 12:09, James Page wrote:
>>   juju create-model midonet-review
>>   juju switch midonet-review
> 
> Thanks for the feedback James, it's great to see these bits coming
> together so nicely :)
> 
> Should we automatically switch to a new model when you create it? I
> suspect the common case is create-model-then-work-in-it rather than
> create-model-then-do-something-else.

I thought we did do that by default.

Tim


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