Re: [JPP-Devel] What version of applications should we be installing on OSGeo-Live 5.5? - openjump
On 22.12.2011 13:36, Giuseppe Aruta wrote: > The main problem under Ubuntu, regarding OJ NB (1.4.3?) is connected to file > chooser dialog: too long and the arrow for dropping down menu is not visible. > This bug comes out only if you choose "Open.." menu and go to "File" option . > If you follow other ways (like using directly "Open file..." menu) it works > fine. i just observed the following. try File->Open File first and all other variants later. suddenly the dropdown field behaves as it is supposed to. i will give it some more love after the family days but obviously it is a minor "how the panel is initialized" issue. > I suspect that this bug came out (at least in Ubuntu) after adding "All > supported file" option - this plugin reads all supported extension and writes > on the menu option. The problem is that this plugin reads also world file > extension (.tfw, .jgw, etc) and recognize them as "supported file too" - no > way to open a jgw as it is a text file! i didn't see jgw in the list. anyway if it is in all supported some file factory claims to open it. > I added a screenshot about this bug. > > An extra information about this bug > > - The long file chooser dialog is alway there. I tested with Iced tea 1.6, > Iced tea 1.7 and Oracle Jre 1.6. Iced Tea 1.6 is the java machine used by > Ubuntu in the last distros. With all OJ NB I have installed in my computer > (20, 20 where did you do so? > - the arrow to drop down menu is not visible with Iced Tea (1.6 or 1.7) and > Oracle java depending to the version of OJ > Likely I have some testing OJ NB of September where I localized that > a) this latter bug was present on version OpenJUMP-2006-r2511 Nov 6th > b) It was disappeared on version OpenJUMP-201 (I have no serial number, I > found written "testing version"), Nov 11th > c) it was again on version OpenJUMP-2013-r2528Nov. 13 > In the last version of NB OpenJUMP-20111217-r2552 the "long menu" is there > but the arrow is visible this is a clear trunk issue. 1.4.2 does not have "all supported" .. so 1.4.2 is a candidate for osgeo. we should set the start script permissions to executable though. > > Now all my impression are only empiric. I did no variation on OJ core to see > other possibilities. I ask Ede to make an experimental version oj OJ NB > (December) and see, on Ubuntu, if this bug of file chooser dialog is > connected to the option "all supported file". let me fix it in january as described above > Now, on my opinion this is not really a big bug. With "regular" monitor, user > can easily use the "long menu" and it is always possible to drop down even > with no arrow. But it becomes a big problem if you use laptop with small > screen (11" or similar) does it? i tried it in a virtual machine and went to 640x480 and ok the arrow is missing and there is no visual clue that there is an all files option but clicking into the field also opens the dropdown and cursor buttons or muse scroll work fine ;) > - I didn't see other evident bugs. I would vote to add OJ NB, as a special > version OJ, to OSGeo-Live 5.5 release. But we should correct this bug, > probably hidden at the moment "all supported files" (if this is the origin of > the bug) > i am kind of in favor of a snapshot as well. i could beat the 7th january deadline i guess. > - On the other hand, if we add OJ NB on OSGeo-Live, we should make a new > real. of OJ. There are some important modifications between last NB and > 1.4.2, that make "OJ 1.5" more worth to use. For instance the new Horizontal > position on label option made by Michael. Or the new "conglomerates" of > different plugin in the "Tool" menu (Union/dissolve, etc). But we probably > have no resource, time, etc to do in few days (maybe in few months), not even > (more important) to test any new/old bugs however we call it, let's go recent. > > - It is probably better to use OJ 1.4.2 on OSGeo-Live 5.5 without thinking > to make a Marry Christmas version of Openjump in few days > > When I have time I will do other tests. Right now everything seems fine > (except "long menu") > thanks for the heads up. my take is that this voluntary project does not have to be perfect, even if put in a wide scale distribution. if it starts and is generally usable people can get to know it and report bugs and/or get a more recent version if they like it. .. happy holidays ede > > > > > *Da:* "edgar.sol...@web.de" > *A:* Stefan Steiniger > *Cc:* jump devel ; Michaël Michaud > ; Landon Blake > *Inviato:* Mercoledì 21 Dicembre 2011 16:05 > *Oggetto:* Re: [JPP-Devel] What version of applications should we be > installing on OSGeo-Live 5.5? - openjump > > no sorry. i am a bit short on time lately. so i am not able to do anything > bigger. i couldn't lay a hand on the file dialog so far. > > Peppe: Could you check 1.4.2 on linux again and come back if you find show > stoppers? Maybe we should
Re: [JPP-Devel] What version of applications should we be installing on OSGeo-Live 5.5? - openjump
Sorry for being late on answer. I am in a hurry to complete stud's projects before Christmas holiday. I try to give an answer going back to what I remember (from 1.4.2 to Night built) about OJ for Ubuntu,ù after Christmases I will do some deeper tests. The main problem under Ubuntu, regarding OJ NB (1.4.3?) is connected to file chooser dialog: too long and the arrow for dropping down menu is not visible. This bug comes out only if you choose "Open.." menu and go to "File" option . If you follow other ways (like using directly "Open file..." menu) it works fine. I suspect that this bug came out (at least in Ubuntu) after adding "All supported file" option - this plugin reads all supported extension and writes on the menu option. The problem is that this plugin reads also world file extension (.tfw, .jgw, etc) and recognize them as "supported file too" - no way to open a jgw as it is a text file! I added a screenshot about this bug. An extra information about this bug - The long file chooser dialog is alway there. I tested with Iced tea 1.6, Iced tea 1.7 and Oracle Jre 1.6. Iced Tea 1.6 is the java machine used by Ubuntu in the last distros. With all OJ NB I have installed in my computer (20, 20 - the arrow to drop down menu is not visible with Iced Tea (1.6 or 1.7) and Oracle java depending to the version of OJ Likely I have some testing OJ NB of September where I localized that a) this latter bug was present on version OpenJUMP-2006-r2511 Nov 6th b) It was disappeared on version OpenJUMP-201 (I have no serial number, I found written "testing version"), Nov 11th c) it was again on version OpenJUMP-2013-r2528 Nov. 13 In the last version of NB OpenJUMP-20111217-r2552 the "long menu" is there but the arrow is visible Now all my impression are only empiric. I did no variation on OJ core to see other possibilities. I ask Ede to make an experimental version oj OJ NB (December) and see, on Ubuntu, if this bug of file chooser dialog is connected to the option "all supported file". Now, on my opinion this is not really a big bug. With "regular" monitor, user can easily use the "long menu" and it is always possible to drop down even with no arrow. But it becomes a big problem if you use laptop with small screen (11" or similar) - I didn't see other evident bugs. I would vote to add OJ NB, as a special version OJ, to OSGeo-Live 5.5 release. But we should correct this bug, probably hidden at the moment "all supported files" (if this is the origin of the bug) - On the other hand, if we add OJ NB on OSGeo-Live, we should make a new real. of OJ. There are some important modifications between last NB and 1.4.2, that make "OJ 1.5" more worth to use. For instance the new Horizontal position on label option made by Michael. Or the new "conglomerates" of different plugin in the "Tool" menu (Union/dissolve, etc). But we probably have no resource, time, etc to do in few days (maybe in few months), not even (more important) to test any new/old bugs - It is probably better to use OJ 1.4.2 on OSGeo-Live 5.5 without thinking to make a Marry Christmas version of Openjump in few days When I have time I will do other tests. Right now everything seems fine (except "long menu") regards Peppe Da: "edgar.sol...@web.de" A: Stefan Steiniger Cc: jump devel ; Michaël Michaud ; Landon Blake Inviato: Mercoledì 21 Dicembre 2011 16:05 Oggetto: Re: [JPP-Devel] What version of applications should we be installing on OSGeo-Live 5.5? - openjump no sorry. i am a bit short on time lately. so i am not able to do anything bigger. i couldn't lay a hand on the file dialog so far. Peppe: Could you check 1.4.2 on linux again and come back if you find show stoppers? Maybe we should pimp 1.4.2 a little and distribute a 1.4.3 interim version with the most important bugfixes from trunk? ..regards ede On 21.12.2011 15:38, Stefan Steiniger wrote: > Hi Michael, Edgar > > sorry for my late response. > But I am not sure if we should use 1.4.2 as the MacOSX bug is not fixed in > there. On the other hand its a Ubuntu distribution... was that all ok on > Ubuntu with respect to saving data? (and only the file-choser-is-to-long-bug?) > > Edgar do you know more? > In that case its fine. > > cheers from Germany > stefan > > Am 18.12.11 17:31, schrieb Michaël Michaud: >> Hi Cameron, >> >> Thanks for the remainder, and thanks to give OpenJUMP a chance to be >> included in the next OSGeo-Live 5.5 release >> We should now include OpenJUMP 1.4.2 (sept. 2011) in this distribution >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/jump-pilot/files/OpenJUMP/1.4.2/ >> >> I also transfer to Edgar Soldin, who has a better experience about >> OpenJUMP under Linux and installation scripts. >> >> Is something needed before january 7th ? >> Landon, Stefan, Ede, anybody volunteer to help checking distribution ? >> >> Michaël >> >> >>> Stefan, Landon, Michaël >>> , >
