Re: [JPP-Devel] fixing in trunk vs stable

2012-02-26 Thread Michaël Michaud
Hi Stefan,
> In the svn mails I see that some stuff is fixed in trunk while others is
> fixed in branches/stable.
I did all the fixes in the trunk, then merged them in the 1.5 branch.
If you noticed something wrong, please, tell me, I may have misused merge
command, as it was the first time.
It is quite difficult to follow though, as the same rev number is 
incremented
for trunk commits and for branch commit.
> Is there a rule where to do the fixing? If so, is it written somewhere
> for OJ developers?
 From my point of view, the rule is quite simple.
All changes are made in the trunk. Fixes are backported in the 1.5 branch,
so that 1.5.2 will have no new feature but will be more stable than 1.5.1
for production use.
I have made only a small exception with the status bar, jut because I made
a bug fix after Peppe did a feature change in the WorkbenchFrame class,
so that it would have been more work to  backport the bug fix without the
feature change.
> cheers from Calgary,
Cheers,

Michaël
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Re: [JPP-Devel] Add scale panel on Info bar

2012-02-26 Thread Michaël Michaud
Hi
> 1) I think that envelope of selected features in pixels (displayed in 
> second panel, between brackets) takes place and is useless What do you 
> think ?
> without seeing it... yes, why would I need the pixels?
Currently, the number of selected features message is displayed by
ShowFullPathPlugIn (don't know why, probably not the best place)
Il looks like :

Number selected: 123 [1254.4, 65987] 45687 pts

Code comes with the following comment from Larry :
//LDB added the following to simulate 4D Draw Coordinates Panel

My suggestion is to keep only :

Number selected: 123 [45687 pts]
or
Selection: 123 features [45687 pts]

Michaël


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Re: [JPP-Devel] Choose txt/csv driver for PLUS edition

2012-02-26 Thread Arnd Kielhorn
Hello Michael,


> Hi Arnd,
> 
> > Hello Michael,
> >
> > first of all: Yes there is still one from the PIROL group, it's myself.
> Thanks for fast answer,
> > - uses only tabulation
> > That is not right because it also accept comma, space and semicolon
> This is a good point, should have made some test before writing...
> > ? uses a  unit definition line (not recognized by non-pirol openjump
> > plugins)
> > In the specification of the Pirol CSV is the unit definition, but there
> is no regarding of it (when we build this plugin we had some ideas to use
> the units, but the project ended to fast...)
> Means that no plugin but the driver itself relies on this header line. 
> Isn't it ?
As far as I know it is. I am sure but I can still ask a colleague next week.

> >   if $ prefix is part of the format
> > The $ is a needed prefix and also all three line (attribut names, units,
> data types)
> Means that a csv file without one of these lines is unreadable. right ?
> Actually, this is probably the main drawback.
Your are right, a file with a missing line is not readable. Sure, it will be 
easier to have only one header line, but when we build this driver we had some 
ideas to use the units (what we found was no longer time to realize). And to 
set the the data type os useful, isn't it?

> > ? don't know how are x and y columns recognized (by name or by position)
> > When loading a Pirol Csv file You will be asked for the fields of
> x-attribute and for the y-attribute by name.
> Ah, I should really make some tests. It means it has the flexibility 
> Jukka was asking.
I think this could be what Jukka asking for.

> >
> >> Any tought is welcome, especially if Pirol's driver is currently needed
> >> by other Pirol's plugins
> >> or by any OpenJUMP user.
> > The Pirol driver is undependend from other Pirol plugins except the
> Pirol baseclasses.jar (which is for all Pirol plugins).
> > I and my colleagues using the Pirol Csv very often and we are in contact
> to many users who uses it also.
> OK, the driver is more flexible than what I thought.
> Still, I thik it is worthwhile working on a single version with the best 
> of the two drivers.
From my side of view it could be the best way for all interested users.
Users who used the Pirol csv driver have to adpated their file headers of 
existing files or still use the Pirol csv driver further in the future.

> 
> > I hope this are usefull information.
> Very useful,
> 
> May I ask you if there is still development activity around OpenJUMP in 
> your university, or if
> it is used for production, for teaching, for studies or whatever...
We never stopped the development in Osnabrueck. The Pirol infrastructure still 
works but without direct project finances.
I work at the university and I also founded a small commercially company in 
2009. Since than the most developments we made in our company, but only with 
very special functions without general insterests for other users.
Together with Jukka we financed the development of the gps extension which ede 
made.

There are two universities (university of applied sciences, university (of more 
theoretically sciences)) in Osnabrueck and both using OpenJUMP teaching GIS 
beside using Esri stuff. 
Also in a few research projects the university of applied sciences use OJ.

So, OJ is used for production, teaching and studies. And sometimes we make user 
support from non-osnabrueck OJ-users, using OJ in the fields of agriculture, 
landscape architecture, some administrations, in schools (e.g. project 
jump4schools).

Kindly regards
Arnd


> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michaël
> >
> > Kindly regards
> > Arnd
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Hope someone from Pirol is still monitoring the list
> >>
> >> PLUS edition currently includes my txt driver and Pirol csv driver.
> >> I'd like to replace them by a single one (mine), but for that, I must
> >> - understand pirol's csv driver and its usage,
> >> - get your opinion
> >> - make some improvements to txt driver to include some Pirol's driver
> >> feature
> >>
> >> Here is a brief, subjective comparison
> >>
> >> Pirol's Driver
> >> -
> >> Read/write a format documented on Pirol's site
> >>
> (http://www.pirol.hs-osnabrueck.de/fileadmin/users/159/upload/PlugIns/PIROL-CSV_specification.txt)
> >> + columns have datatypes
> >> - uses only tabulation
> >> ? uses a  unit definition line (not recognized by non-pirol openjump
> >> plugins)
> >> ? don't know if $ prefix is part of the format
> >> ? don't know how are x and y columns recognized (by name or by
> position)
> >>
> >> Michaël's Driver
> >> -
> >> Read write simple csv files and many variants
> >> + read/write tabulation, comma, semi-column... separated values
> >> + header line (column definition) is an option
> >> - x/y must be in first position (or second for the option xy +
> identifier)
> >> + can also read z values
> >> + same framework is used to read geometries as x,y(,z) separated values

Re: [JPP-Devel] Add scale panel on Info bar

2012-02-26 Thread Stefan Steiniger
I am for "123 [45687 pts]"

though, it also needs to translate "pts"... mhm..

stefan

Am 26.02.12 02:16, schrieb Michaël Michaud:
> Hi
>> 1) I think that envelope of selected features in pixels (displayed in
>> second panel, between brackets) takes place and is useless What do you
>> think ?
>> without seeing it... yes, why would I need the pixels?
> Currently, the number of selected features message is displayed by
> ShowFullPathPlugIn (don't know why, probably not the best place)
> Il looks like :
>
> Number selected: 123 [1254.4, 65987] 45687 pts
>
> Code comes with the following comment from Larry :
> //LDB added the following to simulate 4D Draw Coordinates Panel
>
> My suggestion is to keep only :
>
> Number selected: 123 [45687 pts]
> or
> Selection: 123 features [45687 pts]
>
> Michaël
>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] workbench-properties.xml

2012-02-26 Thread Stefan Steiniger
Hi Ede,

to pickup the old thread after Arnds message on the user list on 
checking the properties during the startup.

Can you put it back into the startup again for the binary distribution?
If not - I can have a go too... though you are the expert for the 
startup-files.

Or are there other opinions?

cheers,
stefan

Am 25.01.12 11:07, schrieb Stefan Steiniger:
> forgot:
>

 I would say its not necessary for end-user binaries - but it should be
 in the source code distribution.
>>>
>>> which is that again?
>>>
>
> openjump-core-src-1.5.X.zip
>
>
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Re: [JPP-Devel] use of OpenJUMP in Osnabrueck

2012-02-26 Thread Stefan Steiniger
Hei Arnd,

reading what you wrote, I didn't know that you are using OJ that active.
No wonder we get all those downloads from Germany.. together with 
teaching elsewhere.

keep up the good work!
& cheers from Canada... my last 20 days are approaching
stefan


> We never stopped the development in Osnabrueck. The Pirol infrastructure 
> still works but without direct project finances.
> I work at the university and I also founded a small commercially company in 
> 2009. Since than the most developments we made in our company, but only with 
> very special functions without general insterests for other users.
> Together with Jukka we financed the development of the gps extension which 
> ede made.
>
> There are two universities (university of applied sciences, university (of 
> more theoretically sciences)) in Osnabrueck and both using OpenJUMP teaching 
> GIS beside using Esri stuff.
> Also in a few research projects the university of applied sciences use OJ.
>
> So, OJ is used for production, teaching and studies. And sometimes we make 
> user support from non-osnabrueck OJ-users, using OJ in the fields of 
> agriculture, landscape architecture, some administrations, in schools (e.g. 
> project jump4schools).
>
> Kindly regards
> Arnd
>

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