Re: [JPP-Devel] VOTE.. Re: Integration of the SkyPrintPlugin into CORE

2014-04-13 Thread Larry Becker 
+1 - SkyPrint core (at least the driver part)



On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 7:48 AM,  wrote:

> sorry, but what's the current consensus now?
>
> please everyone interested raise hands again. all i can remember is
>
> SkyPrint
> into CORE - Michael
> into PLUS - Ede
>
> ..ede
>
> On 01.04.2014 08:58, Michael Michaud wrote:
> > Hi ,
> >
> > Although I'm generally not in favour of adding new dependencies
> > to the core, I think that
> > - printing is a core feature
> > - having two printers in PLUS and none in CORE is a bit strange
> >
> > So my vote is to add the new printer to the CORE
> >
> > As for the name, an other option would be
> > File > Print > Printer
> > File > Print > Printer (advanced)
> > or
> > File > Print > Printer (core)
> > File > Print > Printer (plus)
> >
> > My two cents
> >
> > Michaël
> >> I am in favour of Ede's proposal.
> >> Peppe
> >>
> >>
> >> 2014-03-17 20:18 GMT+01:00  edgar.sol...@web.de>>:
> >>
> >> On 17.03.2014 18:39, Matthias Scholz wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> If it works on Win/Linux/Mac and 32-bit/64-bit then absolutely
> into core. The jar is only about 40 kb and makes it possible to
> >> > Not quite correct. You need the itext jar in the lib folder too
> ;-)
> >>
> >> ok, that's 1MB extra.. that smells like PLUS to me then.
> >>
> >> >>> @All.. is there agreement that this is wanted in CORE, or would
> we rather have it in PLUS, to keep CORE lean?
> >> >> We can have a File -> Print submenu with SkyPrint in CORE and
> SkyPrint +
> >> >> Geoff's plugin in the PLUS.
> >> >
> >> > I am undecided, but Printing should be a core feature. However,
> what
> >> > Matthias proposed maybe best as Geoffs Printing is a bit heavier
> and
> >> > people should know by now that the goodies come with PLUS
> (hopefully).
> >>
> >> i'd suggest
> >>
> >> File->Print->Printer (Cadplan)
> >>  Printer (SkyPrint)
> >>
> >> as to differentiate the two. trying to describe the difference
> would be to difficult in a short menu item's text.
> >> this can easily be done with the new install mechanism.
> default-plugins.xml can override the install setting of any extension. the
> string would go into OJ language files then.
> >>
> >> >> wrt. to the integration.
> >> >>
> >> >> @All.. is there agreement that this is wanted in CORE, or would
> we rather have it in PLUS, to keep CORE lean?
> >> > We can have a File -> Print submenu with SkyPrint in CORE and
> SkyPrint +
> >> > Geoff's plugin in the PLUS.
> >> >>
> >> >> Matthias: you might wanna read the old thread on what we
> "negotiated"
> >> >>
> http://sourceforge.net/p/jump-pilot/mailman/jump-pilot-devel/thread/5288BF32.3060408%40web.de/#msg31648034
> >> > I read it yesterday again. To get the SkyPrinter run from lib/ext
> we
> >> > need the itext jar in the lib path. Ede, should i move the
> >> > itext-2.1.7.jar from lib/plus into lib/ and copy
> >> > SkyPrinterPlugIn-1.0.0.jar to the SVN into lib/ext or do you do
> that
> >> > during release build
> >>
> >> for PLUS this is handled easily. everything in trunk/lib/plus/ is
> simply copied into lib/ext/ during the PLUS release build. so, after Jukka
> or others "approved" the extension you might simply
> >>
> >> - add documentation to etc/readme.txt (section Licensing/PLUS),
> read other entries there to get an idea of the needed information
> >> - commit the needed jar to lib/plus/ & it will be included in the
> next PLUS build
> >>
> >> as you volunteered (kind of) now for the extension's maintenance ;)
> please also generate a proper extension release for sf.net 
> files, instead of only a jar.
> >> that would be a zip file, containing
> >>
> >> ReadMe.txt - with chapters
> >>  Installation - which file to copy where
> >>  Licenses - name, files, component
> >> lib files - needed support jars, extension jar
> >> license files (txt,pdf...) for the components above, download them
> from the net
> >>
> >> and upload it for users wanting to use the extension with a
> barebone CORE OJ only.
> >>
> >> regards.. ede
> >>
> >>
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[JPP-Devel] VOTE.. Re: Integration of the SkyPrintPlugin into CORE

2014-04-13 Thread edgar . soldin 
sorry, but what's the current consensus now?

please everyone interested raise hands again. all i can remember is 

SkyPrint 
into CORE - Michael
into PLUS - Ede

..ede

On 01.04.2014 08:58, Michael Michaud wrote:
> Hi ,
> 
> Although I'm generally not in favour of adding new dependencies
> to the core, I think that
> - printing is a core feature
> - having two printers in PLUS and none in CORE is a bit strange
> 
> So my vote is to add the new printer to the CORE
> 
> As for the name, an other option would be
> File > Print > Printer
> File > Print > Printer (advanced)
> or
> File > Print > Printer (core)
> File > Print > Printer (plus)
> 
> My two cents
> 
> Michaël
>> I am in favour of Ede's proposal.
>> Peppe
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-17 20:18 GMT+01:00 > >:
>>
>> On 17.03.2014 18:39, Matthias Scholz wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> If it works on Win/Linux/Mac and 32-bit/64-bit then absolutely into 
>> core. The jar is only about 40 kb and makes it possible to
>> > Not quite correct. You need the itext jar in the lib folder too ;-)
>>
>> ok, that's 1MB extra.. that smells like PLUS to me then.
>>
>> >>> @All.. is there agreement that this is wanted in CORE, or would we 
>> rather have it in PLUS, to keep CORE lean?
>> >> We can have a File -> Print submenu with SkyPrint in CORE and 
>> SkyPrint +
>> >> Geoff's plugin in the PLUS.
>> >
>> > I am undecided, but Printing should be a core feature. However, what
>> > Matthias proposed maybe best as Geoffs Printing is a bit heavier and
>> > people should know by now that the goodies come with PLUS (hopefully).
>>
>> i'd suggest
>>
>> File->Print->Printer (Cadplan)
>>  Printer (SkyPrint)
>>
>> as to differentiate the two. trying to describe the difference would be 
>> to difficult in a short menu item's text.
>> this can easily be done with the new install mechanism. 
>> default-plugins.xml can override the install setting of any extension. the 
>> string would go into OJ language files then.
>>
>> >> wrt. to the integration.
>> >>
>> >> @All.. is there agreement that this is wanted in CORE, or would we 
>> rather have it in PLUS, to keep CORE lean?
>> > We can have a File -> Print submenu with SkyPrint in CORE and SkyPrint 
>> +
>> > Geoff's plugin in the PLUS.
>> >>
>> >> Matthias: you might wanna read the old thread on what we "negotiated"
>> >> 
>> http://sourceforge.net/p/jump-pilot/mailman/jump-pilot-devel/thread/5288BF32.3060408%40web.de/#msg31648034
>> > I read it yesterday again. To get the SkyPrinter run from lib/ext we
>> > need the itext jar in the lib path. Ede, should i move the
>> > itext-2.1.7.jar from lib/plus into lib/ and copy
>> > SkyPrinterPlugIn-1.0.0.jar to the SVN into lib/ext or do you do that
>> > during release build
>>
>> for PLUS this is handled easily. everything in trunk/lib/plus/ is simply 
>> copied into lib/ext/ during the PLUS release build. so, after Jukka or 
>> others "approved" the extension you might simply
>>
>> - add documentation to etc/readme.txt (section Licensing/PLUS), read 
>> other entries there to get an idea of the needed information
>> - commit the needed jar to lib/plus/ & it will be included in the next 
>> PLUS build
>>
>> as you volunteered (kind of) now for the extension's maintenance ;) 
>> please also generate a proper extension release for sf.net  
>> files, instead of only a jar.
>> that would be a zip file, containing
>>
>> ReadMe.txt - with chapters
>>  Installation - which file to copy where
>>  Licenses - name, files, component
>> lib files - needed support jars, extension jar
>> license files (txt,pdf...) for the components above, download them from 
>> the net
>>
>> and upload it for users wanting to use the extension with a barebone 
>> CORE OJ only.
>>
>> regards.. ede
>>
>> 
>> --
>> Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book
>> "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and 
>> their
>> applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field,
>> this first edition is now available. Download your free book today!
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech
>> ___
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>> Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net 
>> 
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book
>> "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their
>> applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field,
>> this first edition is now avai