[JPP-Devel] [jump-pilot:bugs] Re: #523 Read timed out when loading Geoportale Nazionale WMS

[Roberto Rossi via Jump-pilot-devel]

Thank you Jukka for clarifications ad suggestions...
/Display_WMS_URL Bean Shell tool/ is actually very useful to understand 
how the WMS request works! I didn't know it

Anyway, WIDTH parameter could be useful to avoid problems with MaxWidth 
and MaxHeight values, set to 2048 in Geoportale Nazionale data!

Roberto

Il 31/10/2023 20:52, Jukka Rahkonen ha scritto:
>
> Sorry Roberto, I may have confused you with WIDTH and HEIGHT. Users 
> are not really meant to define those manually. The WMS client 
> software, in this case OpenJUMP, sets them automatically to match the 
> map area. If you have problems with the WMS server due to too wide or 
> high GetMap requests, adjust the size of the project window of 
> OpenJUMP smaller. You should also learn to use the Display_WMS_URL 
> tool from the Bean Shell tools. That shows the URL that OpenJUMP has 
> sent for the WMS server. Open the details and you will see all the 
> parameters. That is very useful for debugging.
>
> 
>
> *[bugs:#523]  Read 
> timed out when loading Geoportale Nazionale WMS*
>
> *Status:* closed-works-for-me
> *Milestone:* undecided
> *Labels:* WMS
> *Created:* Sat Oct 28, 2023 05:35 PM UTC by Roberto Rossi
> *Last Updated:* Tue Oct 31, 2023 05:14 PM UTC
> *Owner:* nobody
>
> OpenJump is no more able to load Italian Geoportale Nazionale WMS 
> .
> Here are some services (in order: image, points, polylines and a 
> polygons):
> * 
> http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/raster/ortofoto_colore_12.map
> * 
> http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/LimitiAmministrativi_2020.map
> * 
> http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/Aste_fluviali.map
> * 
> http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/Bacini_idrografici.map
>
> In the Status bar "Read timed out" appears.
> In the past months I was able to load them, and they still work in 
> other software like QGIS, or ArcMap, Or ArcGIS Pro, AdB-ToolBox (a 
> software derived from OpenJump but which has his own WMS, WFS, WCS 
> reader, which points to Geoportale nazionale data).
> So the problem seems (to me) a combination of particular OpenJump 
> settings and Geoportale nazionale servers change...
>
> The same Read timed out appears (often, not always) loading some of 
> the http://ows.terrestris.de/osm/service layers
>
> Roberto Rossi
>
> 
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**[bugs:#523] Read timed out when loading Geoportale Nazionale WMS**

**Status:** closed-works-for-me
**Milestone:** undecided
**Labels:** WMS 
**Created:** Sat Oct 28, 2023 05:35 PM UTC by Roberto Rossi
**Last Updated:** Tue Oct 31, 2023 07:52 PM UTC
**Owner:** nobody


OpenJump is no more able to load Italian [Geoportale Nazionale 
WMS](http://www.pcn.minambiente.it/mattm/servizio-wms).
Here are some services (in order:  image, points, polylines and a polygons):
* 
http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/raster/ortofoto_colore_12.map
* 
http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/LimitiAmministrativi_2020.map
* 
http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/Aste_fluviali.map
* 
http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/Bacini_idrografici.map

In the Status bar "Read timed out" appears.
In the past months I was able to load them, and they still work in other 
software like QGIS, or ArcMap, Or ArcGIS Pro, AdB-ToolBox (a software derived 
from OpenJump but which has his own WMS, WFS, WCS reader, which points to 
Geoportale nazionale data).
So the problem seems (to me) a combination of particular OpenJump settings and 
Geoportale nazionale servers change...

The same Read timed out appears (often, not always) loading some of the 
http://ows.terrestris.de/osm/service layers

Roberto Rossi



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[JPP-Devel] [jump-pilot:bugs] Re: #523 Read timed out when loading Geoportale Nazionale WMS

[Roberto Rossi via Jump-pilot-devel]

I've just received an answer from the Geoportale Nazionale technicians.
They suggest these values:

  * 50.000 ms for Read Timeout
  * 200.000 ms for Connection Timeout


Roberto

Il 29/10/2023 22:39, ede via Jump-pilot-devel ha scritto:
>
> good point Jukka,
>
> tried myself. default timeout in OJ is 5 seconds. this times out. you 
> can raise the value per (e.g. in english menu)
> Customize -> Options -> Network properties -> Timeout -> Read timeout (ms)
> .
> raising it to 60s = 60.000 loads the layer after about 10s or so.
>
> does that sove your issue Roberto?
>
> 
>
> *[bugs:#523]  Read 
> timed out when loading Geoportale Nazionale WMS*
>
> *Status:* open
> *Milestone:* undecided
> *Labels:* WMS
> *Created:* Sat Oct 28, 2023 05:35 PM UTC by Roberto Rossi
> *Last Updated:* Sun Oct 29, 2023 09:05 PM UTC
> *Owner:* nobody
>
> OpenJump is no more able to load Italian Geoportale Nazionale WMS 
> .
> Here are some services (in order: image, points, polylines and a 
> polygons):
> * 
> http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/raster/ortofoto_colore_12.map
> * 
> http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/LimitiAmministrativi_2020.map
> * 
> http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/Aste_fluviali.map
> * 
> http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/Bacini_idrografici.map
>
> In the Status bar "Read timed out" appears.
> In the past months I was able to load them, and they still work in 
> other software like QGIS, or ArcMap, Or ArcGIS Pro, AdB-ToolBox (a 
> software derived from OpenJump but which has his own WMS, WFS, WCS 
> reader, which points to Geoportale nazionale data).
> So the problem seems (to me) a combination of particular OpenJump 
> settings and Geoportale nazionale servers change...
>
> The same Read timed out appears (often, not always) loading some of 
> the http://ows.terrestris.de/osm/service layers
>
> Roberto Rossi
>
> 
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**[bugs:#523] Read timed out when loading Geoportale Nazionale WMS**

**Status:** closed-works-for-me
**Milestone:** undecided
**Labels:** WMS 
**Created:** Sat Oct 28, 2023 05:35 PM UTC by Roberto Rossi
**Last Updated:** Tue Oct 31, 2023 05:14 PM UTC
**Owner:** nobody


OpenJump is no more able to load Italian [Geoportale Nazionale 
WMS](http://www.pcn.minambiente.it/mattm/servizio-wms).
Here are some services (in order:  image, points, polylines and a polygons):
* 
http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/raster/ortofoto_colore_12.map
* 
http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/LimitiAmministrativi_2020.map
* 
http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/Aste_fluviali.map
* 
http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/Bacini_idrografici.map

In the Status bar "Read timed out" appears.
In the past months I was able to load them, and they still work in other 
software like QGIS, or ArcMap, Or ArcGIS Pro, AdB-ToolBox (a software derived 
from OpenJump but which has his own WMS, WFS, WCS reader, which points to 
Geoportale nazionale data).
So the problem seems (to me) a combination of particular OpenJump settings and 
Geoportale nazionale servers change...

The same Read timed out appears (often, not always) loading some of the 
http://ows.terrestris.de/osm/service layers

Roberto Rossi



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[JPP-Devel] [jump-pilot:bugs] Re: #523 Read timed out when loading Geoportale Nazionale WMS

[Roberto Rossi via Jump-pilot-devel]

Thanks Ede,

/    the ampersand (&) should work to concatenate url parameters like 
e.g. |WIDTH=956=410|/

it workf if you add the parameters at the end of the URL text (i.e. 
http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/Bacini_idrografici.map=GetMap=WMS=1.3.0=1000=default)
it doesn't using the Additional parameters value in OJ Open command window


Roberto


Il 31/10/2023 18:14, ede ha scritto:
>
> Do you know hot to combine more than one WMS additional parameter: I
> tried with ;,&? without success
>
> the ampersand (&) should work to concatenate url parameters like e.g. 
> |WIDTH=956=410|
>
> 
>
> *[bugs:#523]  Read 
> timed out when loading Geoportale Nazionale WMS*
>
> *Status:* open
> *Milestone:* undecided
> *Labels:* WMS
> *Created:* Sat Oct 28, 2023 05:35 PM UTC by Roberto Rossi
> *Last Updated:* Sun Oct 29, 2023 09:39 PM UTC
> *Owner:* nobody
>
> OpenJump is no more able to load Italian Geoportale Nazionale WMS 
> .
> Here are some services (in order: image, points, polylines and a 
> polygons):
> * 
> http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/raster/ortofoto_colore_12.map
> * 
> http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/LimitiAmministrativi_2020.map
> * 
> http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/Aste_fluviali.map
> * 
> http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/Bacini_idrografici.map
>
> In the Status bar "Read timed out" appears.
> In the past months I was able to load them, and they still work in 
> other software like QGIS, or ArcMap, Or ArcGIS Pro, AdB-ToolBox (a 
> software derived from OpenJump but which has his own WMS, WFS, WCS 
> reader, which points to Geoportale nazionale data).
> So the problem seems (to me) a combination of particular OpenJump 
> settings and Geoportale nazionale servers change...
>
> The same Read timed out appears (often, not always) loading some of 
> the http://ows.terrestris.de/osm/service layers
>
> Roberto Rossi
>
> 
>
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**[bugs:#523] Read timed out when loading Geoportale Nazionale WMS**

**Status:** closed-works-for-me
**Milestone:** undecided
**Labels:** WMS 
**Created:** Sat Oct 28, 2023 05:35 PM UTC by Roberto Rossi
**Last Updated:** Tue Oct 31, 2023 05:14 PM UTC
**Owner:** nobody


OpenJump is no more able to load Italian [Geoportale Nazionale 
WMS](http://www.pcn.minambiente.it/mattm/servizio-wms).
Here are some services (in order:  image, points, polylines and a polygons):
* 
http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/raster/ortofoto_colore_12.map
* 
http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/LimitiAmministrativi_2020.map
* 
http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/Aste_fluviali.map
* 
http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/Bacini_idrografici.map

In the Status bar "Read timed out" appears.
In the past months I was able to load them, and they still work in other 
software like QGIS, or ArcMap, Or ArcGIS Pro, AdB-ToolBox (a software derived 
from OpenJump but which has his own WMS, WFS, WCS reader, which points to 
Geoportale nazionale data).
So the problem seems (to me) a combination of particular OpenJump settings and 
Geoportale nazionale servers change...

The same Read timed out appears (often, not always) loading some of the 
http://ows.terrestris.de/osm/service layers

Roberto Rossi



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[JPP-Devel] [jump-pilot:bugs] Re: #523 Read timed out when loading Geoportale Nazionale WMS

[Roberto Rossi via Jump-pilot-devel]

Dear Ede,
Dear Jukka,
I confirm that raising the Read timeout parameter solves the problem!

Jukka , I verified that all the Geoportale nazionale layers have a 
MaxWidth and a MaxHeight value set to 2048. If you have a large 
resolution monitor and a big OJ window open this can be a problem. Using 
the WIDTH parameter helps!
Do you know hot to combine more than one WMS additional parameter: I 
tried with ;,&? without success



I think is possible to close the #523 bug
Maybe can be useful for inexperienced user to raise the default timeout 
parameter in the next releases.

Thank you for your help

Roberto Rossi


Il 29/10/2023 22:39, ede via Jump-pilot-devel ha scritto:
>
> good point Jukka,
>
> tried myself. default timeout in OJ is 5 seconds. this times out. you 
> can raise the value per (e.g. in english menu)
> Customize -> Options -> Network properties -> Timeout -> Read timeout (ms)
> .
> raising it to 60s = 60.000 loads the layer after about 10s or so.
>
> does that sove your issue Roberto?
>
> 
>
> *[bugs:#523]  Read 
> timed out when loading Geoportale Nazionale WMS*
>
> *Status:* open
> *Milestone:* undecided
> *Labels:* WMS
> *Created:* Sat Oct 28, 2023 05:35 PM UTC by Roberto Rossi
> *Last Updated:* Sun Oct 29, 2023 09:05 PM UTC
> *Owner:* nobody
>
> OpenJump is no more able to load Italian Geoportale Nazionale WMS 
> .
> Here are some services (in order: image, points, polylines and a 
> polygons):
> * 
> http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/raster/ortofoto_colore_12.map
> * 
> http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/LimitiAmministrativi_2020.map
> * 
> http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/Aste_fluviali.map
> * 
> http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/Bacini_idrografici.map
>
> In the Status bar "Read timed out" appears.
> In the past months I was able to load them, and they still work in 
> other software like QGIS, or ArcMap, Or ArcGIS Pro, AdB-ToolBox (a 
> software derived from OpenJump but which has his own WMS, WFS, WCS 
> reader, which points to Geoportale nazionale data).
> So the problem seems (to me) a combination of particular OpenJump 
> settings and Geoportale nazionale servers change...
>
> The same Read timed out appears (often, not always) loading some of 
> the http://ows.terrestris.de/osm/service layers
>
> Roberto Rossi
>
> 
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**[bugs:#523] Read timed out when loading Geoportale Nazionale WMS**

**Status:** open
**Milestone:** undecided
**Labels:** WMS 
**Created:** Sat Oct 28, 2023 05:35 PM UTC by Roberto Rossi
**Last Updated:** Sun Oct 29, 2023 09:39 PM UTC
**Owner:** nobody


OpenJump is no more able to load Italian [Geoportale Nazionale 
WMS](http://www.pcn.minambiente.it/mattm/servizio-wms).
Here are some services (in order:  image, points, polylines and a polygons):
* 
http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/raster/ortofoto_colore_12.map
* 
http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/LimitiAmministrativi_2020.map
* 
http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/Aste_fluviali.map
* 
http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/Bacini_idrografici.map

In the Status bar "Read timed out" appears.
In the past months I was able to load them, and they still work in other 
software like QGIS, or ArcMap, Or ArcGIS Pro, AdB-ToolBox (a software derived 
from OpenJump but which has his own WMS, WFS, WCS reader, which points to 
Geoportale nazionale data).
So the problem seems (to me) a combination of particular OpenJump settings and 
Geoportale nazionale servers change...

The same Read timed out appears (often, not always) loading some of the 
http://ows.terrestris.de/osm/service layers

Roberto Rossi



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[JPP-Devel] [jump-pilot:bugs] Re: #523 Read timed out when loading Geoportale Nazionale WMS

[Roberto Rossi via Jump-pilot-devel]

Thank you very much Ede,
I'm using OpenJump 2.2.1, rev. 5222

I did not know that Network Properties Option!
Today I'm out of office, and with my smartphone connection I'm not sure 
to test it correctly.
I'll try later and let you know if it works

Roberto


Il 29/10/2023 22:39, ede via Jump-pilot-devel ha scritto:
>
> good point Jukka,
>
> tried myself. default timeout in OJ is 5 seconds. this times out. you 
> can raise the value per (e.g. in english menu)
> Customize -> Options -> Network properties -> Timeout -> Read timeout (ms)
> .
> raising it to 60s = 60.000 loads the layer after about 10s or so.
>
> does that sove your issue Roberto?
>
> 
>
> *[bugs:#523]  Read 
> timed out when loading Geoportale Nazionale WMS*
>
> *Status:* open
> *Milestone:* undecided
> *Labels:* WMS
> *Created:* Sat Oct 28, 2023 05:35 PM UTC by Roberto Rossi
> *Last Updated:* Sun Oct 29, 2023 09:05 PM UTC
> *Owner:* nobody
>
> OpenJump is no more able to load Italian Geoportale Nazionale WMS 
> .
> Here are some services (in order: image, points, polylines and a 
> polygons):
> * 
> http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/raster/ortofoto_colore_12.map
> * 
> http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/LimitiAmministrativi_2020.map
> * 
> http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/Aste_fluviali.map
> * 
> http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/Bacini_idrografici.map
>
> In the Status bar "Read timed out" appears.
> In the past months I was able to load them, and they still work in 
> other software like QGIS, or ArcMap, Or ArcGIS Pro, AdB-ToolBox (a 
> software derived from OpenJump but which has his own WMS, WFS, WCS 
> reader, which points to Geoportale nazionale data).
> So the problem seems (to me) a combination of particular OpenJump 
> settings and Geoportale nazionale servers change...
>
> The same Read timed out appears (often, not always) loading some of 
> the http://ows.terrestris.de/osm/service layers
>
> Roberto Rossi
>
> 
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**[bugs:#523] Read timed out when loading Geoportale Nazionale WMS**

**Status:** open
**Milestone:** undecided
**Labels:** WMS 
**Created:** Sat Oct 28, 2023 05:35 PM UTC by Roberto Rossi
**Last Updated:** Sun Oct 29, 2023 09:39 PM UTC
**Owner:** nobody


OpenJump is no more able to load Italian [Geoportale Nazionale 
WMS](http://www.pcn.minambiente.it/mattm/servizio-wms).
Here are some services (in order:  image, points, polylines and a polygons):
* 
http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/raster/ortofoto_colore_12.map
* 
http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/LimitiAmministrativi_2020.map
* 
http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/Aste_fluviali.map
* 
http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/Bacini_idrografici.map

In the Status bar "Read timed out" appears.
In the past months I was able to load them, and they still work in other 
software like QGIS, or ArcMap, Or ArcGIS Pro, AdB-ToolBox (a software derived 
from OpenJump but which has his own WMS, WFS, WCS reader, which points to 
Geoportale nazionale data).
So the problem seems (to me) a combination of particular OpenJump settings and 
Geoportale nazionale servers change...

The same Read timed out appears (often, not always) loading some of the 
http://ows.terrestris.de/osm/service layers

Roberto Rossi



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Thank you Jukka,
I'll try to give some of your indications to Geoportale Nazionale IT 
office...
I'll also try to use WIDTH= and HEIGHT= parameters, if I'm able.

Roberto

Il 29/10/2023 22:05, Jukka Rahkonen via Jump-pilot-devel ha scritto:
>
> That WMS service seems to be very slow. This curl example took 42 
> seconds. Notice < Cache-Control: max-age=300 that means that the same 
> query will come from the cache for next 5 minutes and it will be fast. 
> Edit for example WIDTH= or HEIGHT= parameters for bypassing the cache. 
> Maybe the timeout in OpenJUMP is too short but they should be able to 
> do much better at minambiente.it.
>
> C:\Jukka>curl -v 
> "http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/Bacini_idrografici.map=GetMap=WMS=1.3.0=956=410=ID.ACQUEFISICHE.BACINIIDROGRAFICI.PRINCIPALI=TRUE=image%2Fpng=34.93762575452716,0.7132796780684094,49.43762575452716,28.6046277665996=EPSG:4326=GN%3APredefinito;
>  
> -o out.png
> % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
> Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 0/Trying 2.21.96.8:80...
> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 --:--:-- 0:00:01 --:--:-- 0/ Connected to 
> wms.pcn.minambiente.it (2.21.96.8) port 80 (#0)
>
> GET
> 
> /ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/Bacini_idrografici.map=GetMap=WMS=1.3.0=956=410=ID.ACQUEFISICHE.BACINIIDROGRAFICI.PRINCIPALI=TRUE=image%2Fpng=34.93762575452716,0.7132796780684094,49.43762575452716,28.6046277665996=EPSG:4326=GN%3APredefinito
> HTTP/1.1
> Host: wms.pcn.minambiente.it
> User-Agent: curl/7.79.1-DEV
> Accept: ///
>
> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 --:--:-- 0:00:17 --:--:-- 0* Mark bundle as not
> supporting multiuse
> < HTTP/1.1 200 OK
> < Server: Apache/2.4.18 (Win64)
> < Access-Control-Allow-Origin: *
> < Content-Type: image/png
> < Content-Length: 33918
> < Cache-Control: max-age=300
> < Expires: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 20:57:04 GMT
> < Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 20:52:04 GMT
> < Connection: keep-alive
> < X-N: S
> <
> { [1081 bytes data]
> 100 33918 100 33918 0 0 801 0 0:00:42 0:00:42 --:--:-- 6943
> * Connection #0 to host wms.pcn.minambiente.it left intact
>
> 
>
> *[bugs:#523]  Read 
> timed out when loading Geoportale Nazionale WMS*
>
> *Status:* open
> *Milestone:* undecided
> *Labels:* WMS
> *Created:* Sat Oct 28, 2023 05:35 PM UTC by Roberto Rossi
> *Last Updated:* Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:59 AM UTC
> *Owner:* nobody
>
> OpenJump is no more able to load Italian Geoportale Nazionale WMS 
> .
> Here are some services (in order: image, points, polylines and a 
> polygons):
> * 
> http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/raster/ortofoto_colore_12.map
> * 
> http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/LimitiAmministrativi_2020.map
> * 
> http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/Aste_fluviali.map
> * 
> http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/Bacini_idrografici.map
>
> In the Status bar "Read timed out" appears.
> In the past months I was able to load them, and they still work in 
> other software like QGIS, or ArcMap, Or ArcGIS Pro, AdB-ToolBox (a 
> software derived from OpenJump but which has his own WMS, WFS, WCS 
> reader, which points to Geoportale nazionale data).
> So the problem seems (to me) a combination of particular OpenJump 
> settings and Geoportale nazionale servers change...
>
> The same Read timed out appears (often, not always) loading some of 
> the http://ows.terrestris.de/osm/service layers
>
> Roberto Rossi
>
> 
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**[bugs:#523] Read timed out when loading Geoportale Nazionale WMS**

**Status:** open
**Milestone:** undecided
**Labels:** WMS 
**Created:** Sat Oct 28, 2023 05:35 PM UTC by Roberto Rossi
**Last Updated:** Sun Oct 29, 2023 09:39 PM UTC

[JPP-Devel] [jump-pilot:bugs] #523 Read timed out when loading Geoportale Nazionale WMS

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**[bugs:#523] Read timed out when loading Geoportale Nazionale WMS**

**Status:** open
**Milestone:** undecided
**Labels:** WMS 
**Created:** Sat Oct 28, 2023 05:35 PM UTC by Roberto Rossi
**Last Updated:** Sat Oct 28, 2023 05:35 PM UTC
**Owner:** nobody


OpenJump is no more able to load Italian [Geoportale Nazionale 
WMS](http://www.pcn.minambiente.it/mattm/servizio-wms).
Here are some services (in order:  image, points, polylines and a polygons):
* 
http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/raster/ortofoto_colore_12.map
* 
http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/LimitiAmministrativi_2020.map
* 
http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/Aste_fluviali.map
* 
http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/WMS_v1.3/Vettoriali/Bacini_idrografici.map

In the Status bar "Read timed out" appears.
In the past months I was able to load them, and they still work in other 
software like QGIS, or ArcMap, Or ArcGIS Pro, AdB-ToolBox (a software derived 
from OpenJump but which has his own WMS, WFS, WCS reader, which points to 
Geoportale nazionale data).
So the problem seems (to me) a combination of particular OpenJump settings and 
Geoportale nazionale servers change...

The same Read timed out appears (often, not always) loading some of the 
http://ows.terrestris.de/osm/service layers

Roberto Rossi



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[JPP-Devel] [jump-pilot:bugs] Re: #489 Veneto Region (Italy) WMS sevice does not work on OpenJump

[Roberto Rossi via Jump-pilot-devel]

Yes! I tried the 6216 snapshot, and it works also if you answer "Yes" to
the /"Do you want to use it?"/ question!
Thank you again!
What can I do if I find bugs in Sextante (in OpenJump)?
Can I use the same Bugtracker?

Roberto

Il 07/01/2020 16:42, ede ha scritto:
>
> Roberto,
>
> does the latest Snapshot work for you now?
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/jump-pilot/files/OpenJUMP_snapshots/
>
> ..ede
>
> On 07.01.2020 16:38, Roberto Rossi wrote:
>
> Thank you for the efforts!
> Roberto Rossi
> (I opened the Bug ticket)
>
> Il 07/01/2020 14:27, ede ha scritto:
>
> Jukka,
>
> sounds like textfields to manipulate all 3 urls
> (GetCaps,GetMap,FeatInfo) in WMSEditPlugin would be a nice
> hack. or?
>
> ..ede
>
> On 07.01.2020 09:46, Jukka Rahkonen wrote:
>
> In  theory:
> 1.Client  reads  GetCapabilities  with  a  given  base  URL
> 2.Server  sends  an  URL  to  be  used  for  GetMaps,URL  is  
> correct,and
> works
>
> Unfortunately  servers  can  return  not-working  GetMap  URLs.For
> example  in  Mapserver  the  GetMap  url  is  configured  manually  
> and  it
> is  pretty  easy  to  write  it  wrong.Very  often  in  such  cases  
> the
> same  base  URL  that  is  used  for  GetCapabilities  works  also  
> for
> GetMaps  and  it  is  very  good  to  offer  user  a  possibility  to 
>  try  that.
>
> In  QGIS  there  are  two  settings:"Ignore GetMap URI reported in
> capabilities"and "Ignore  GetFeatureInfo  URI  reported  in  
> capabilities"
>
> There  is  also  another  use  case  for  forcing  another  GetMap  
> URL  than
> the  one  that  appears  in  the  capabilities.Some  servers  support
> extra  key/value  parameters  which  have  some  effect  on  the  map 
>  that
> GetMap  returns.See
> 
> https://docs.geoserver.org/stable/en/user/tutorials/cql/cql_tutorial.html#cql-tutorial
> for  examples.Now  a  users  who  know  how  they  client  and  WMS  
> server
> behave  can  fiddle  the  base  url  and  write  is  for  example  as
> 
> https://demo.geo-solutions.it/geoserver/wms?CQL_FILTER=PERSONS>1500&.
>
> If  user  ignores  the  GetMap  URL  OpenJUMP  will  send  requests  
> like
> ~~~
> https://demo.geo-solutions.it/geoserver/wms?
> 
> CQL_FILTER=PERSONS>1500&
> REQUEST=GetMap&
> SERVICE=WMS&
> VERSION=1.3.0&
> WIDTH=1601&
> HEIGHT=835&
> LAYERS=topp%3Astates&
> TRANSPARENT=TRUE&
> FORMAT=image%2Fpng&
> BBOX=22.101104761711433,-124.731422,52.22659723828857,-66.969849&
> CRS=EPSG:4326&
> STYLES=
> ~~~
>
> This  is  more  a  hack  than  a  feature  but  I  use  it  myself  
> sometimes.
> Better  option  would  be  to  have  an  option  for  configuring  
> vendor
> parameters  for  each  WMS  layer  separately.
>
> Following  the  302  redirections  would  be  a  nice  
> improvement.Some
> service  providers  use  redirections  for  load  balancing,though  
> not
> so  many  because  WMS  clients  tend  to  get  lost  :).
>
> And  finally  Geoservers  seem  to  include  that  unnecessary
> =WMS  in  the  GetMaps  URLs.I  think  it  is  wrong  but  it 
>  does
> not  make  real  harm.I  made  a  test  by  adding  another  
> =WMS
> to  the  request  and  Geoserver  accepts  it.But  it  would  be  a  
> problem
> if  URL  contained  something  like  =1.1.1  and  client  
> added
> =1.3.0.
>
> 
> 
>
> *[bugs:#489]
> Veneto  Region  (Italy)  WMS  sevice  does  not  work  on  OpenJump*
>
> *Status:*  open
> *Labels:*  WMS
> *Created:*  Wed  Dec  11,2019  04:04  PM  UTC  by  Roberto  Rossi
> *Last  Updated:*  Sat  Jan  04,2020  12:29  PM  UTC
> *Owner:*  nobody
> *Attachments:*
>
>*  WMS1.jpg
>  
> 
>  (72.1  kB; image/jpeg)
>*  WMS2.jpg
>  
> 
>  (143.6  kB; image/jpeg)
>*  WMS3.jpg
>  
> 
>  (27.9  kB; image/jpeg)
>
> The  Veneto  Region  (Italy)  WMS  sevice  does  not  work  on  
> OpenJump.
> 1.When  adding  the  WM  layer  URL
> (https://idt2-geoserver.regione.veneto.it/geoserver/ows)  the
> server  answer  (IMG  WMS1):/The  WMS  advertises  the  URL
> 

[JPP-Devel] [jump-pilot:bugs] Re: #489 Veneto Region (Italy) WMS sevice does not work on OpenJump

[Roberto Rossi via Jump-pilot-devel]

Thank you for the efforts!
Roberto Rossi
(I opened the Bug ticket)


Il 07/01/2020 14:27, ede ha scritto:
>
> Jukka,
>
> sounds like textfields to manipulate all 3 urls
> (GetCaps,GetMap,FeatInfo) in WMSEditPlugin would be a nice hack. or?
>
> ..ede
>
> On 07.01.2020 09:46, Jukka Rahkonen wrote:
>
> In theory:
> 1. Client reads GetCapabilities with a given base URL
> 2. Server sends an URL to be used for GetMaps, URL is correct, and
> works
>
> Unfortunately servers can return not-working GetMap URLs. For
> example in Mapserver the GetMap url is configured manually and it
> is pretty easy to write it wrong. Very often in such cases the
> same base URL that is used for GetCapabilities works also for
> GetMaps and it is very good to offer user a possibility to try that.
>
> In QGIS there are two settings: "Ignore GetMap URI reported in
> capabilities" and "Ignore GetFeatureInfo URI reported in capabilities"
>
> There is also another use case for forcing another GetMap URL than
> the one that appears in the capabilities. Some servers support
> extra key/value parameters which have some effect on the map that
> GetMap returns. See
> 
> https://docs.geoserver.org/stable/en/user/tutorials/cql/cql_tutorial.html#cql-tutorial
> for examples. Now a users who know how they client and WMS server
> behave can fiddle the base url and write is for example as
> https://demo.geo-solutions.it/geoserver/wms?CQL_FILTER=PERSONS>1500&.
>
> If user ignores the GetMap URL OpenJUMP will send requests like
> ~~~
> https://demo.geo-solutions.it/geoserver/wms?
> 
> CQL_FILTER=PERSONS>1500&
> REQUEST=GetMap&
> SERVICE=WMS&
> VERSION=1.3.0&
> WIDTH=1601&
> HEIGHT=835&
> LAYERS=topp%3Astates&
> TRANSPARENT=TRUE&
> FORMAT=image%2Fpng&
> BBOX=22.101104761711433,-124.731422,52.22659723828857,-66.969849&
> CRS=EPSG:4326&
> STYLES=
> ~~~
>
> This is more a hack than a feature but I use it myself sometimes.
> Better option would be to have an option for configuring vendor
> parameters for each WMS layer separately.
>
> Following the 302 redirections would be a nice improvement. Some
> service providers use redirections for load balancing, though not
> so many because WMS clients tend to get lost :).
>
> And finally Geoservers seem to include that unnecessary
> =WMS in the GetMaps URLs. I think it is wrong but it does
> not make real harm. I made a test by adding another =WMS
> to the request and Geoserver accepts it. But it would be a problem
> if URL contained something like =1.1.1 and client added
> =1.3.0.
>
> 
>
> *[bugs:#489] 
> Veneto Region (Italy) WMS sevice does not work on OpenJump*
>
> *Status:* open
> *Labels:* WMS
> *Created:* Wed Dec 11, 2019 04:04 PM UTC by Roberto Rossi
> *Last Updated:* Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:29 PM UTC
> *Owner:* nobody
> *Attachments:*
>
>   * WMS1.jpg
> 
> (72.1 kB; image/jpeg)
>   * WMS2.jpg
> 
> (143.6 kB; image/jpeg)
>   * WMS3.jpg
> 
> (27.9 kB; image/jpeg)
>
> The Veneto Region (Italy) WMS sevice does not work on OpenJump.
> 1. When adding the WM layer URL
> (https://idt2-geoserver.regione.veneto.it/geoserver/ows) the
> server answer (IMG WMS1): /The WMS advertises the URL
> https://idt2-geoserver.regione.veneto.it/geoserver/ows?SERVICE=WMS
> as GetMap-URL. Do you want to use it?/
> 2. then the open window correctly shows the /Available layers/
> list (IMG WMS2)
> 3. finally it adds the layer in the Working Category, but the map
> i s empty, and in the status bar the message/No description was
> provided/ appears
>
> 
>
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> *[bugs:#489]  Veneto
> Region (Italy) WMS sevice does not work on OpenJump*
>
> *Status:* open
> *Labels:* WMS
> *Created:* Wed Dec 11, 2019 04:04 PM UTC by Roberto Rossi
> *Last Updated:* Tue Jan 07, 2020 08:46 AM UTC
> *Owner:* nobody
> *Attachments:*
>
>   * WMS1.jpg
> 
> (72.1 kB; image/jpeg)
>