Re: [JPP-Devel] Vertical alignment now works for polygons in Label Style
Hi Larry, thanks for your effort, I think this new function would be a nice and useful option for labeling! I don't know if I am getting the problem correctly, but couldn't the entries of the "vertical alignment"-combobox be changed to "above the feature", "on the feature" and "below the feature"? For existing polygon-layers the vertical alignment should be set to "on the feature" automatically if someone activates the "labels"-tab of the styles-dialog and the style actually is set to "on the feature" (as the previous default). I haven't looked into the affected classes and I am not as well informed about the OJ-code, so maybe my ideas are not realizable... Regards, Nils Michal Michaud schrieb: Hi, Larry Thanks Stefan. I would appreciate feedback from others on how vertical alignment for polygons affects their work, plugins, or tutorials. If necessary, I can change the default so that it acts like it did before the mod (for new layers). Unfortunately, (for existing layers) the default setting for vertical alignment was "Above the Line" but the Style was "On the Line", so there could be lots of unintended consequences for existing layers. Does anyone have suggestions as to how these could be minimized? This change will not affect my work as I don't use styles too much. But it's always good to have more choice. That's nice to have a new option. The only way I can think of to solve the confusion between "Above Line" and "On the line" is - to let "Above the line" have its old meaning even for polygons (can think "Above the line traversing the polygon horizontaly and passing through its middle") - adding "Above/Below the polygon" or "Above/Below the feature" which will act as your new option for polygons and which will act as Above/Below line for point/linestring Just an idea to keep backward compatibility. I do not say it should be done that way, as it adds more menu items without adding really new capabilities. Maybe another option could be to create a small beantool to migrate old "Above line" styles to new "On" style for a selection of layers. Michal regards, Larry On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Stefan Steiniger sst...@geo.uzh.ch mailto:sst...@geo.uzh.ch wrote: is welcome, I would say. thanks! Larry Becker schrieb: I made an experimental change to LabelStyle to allow vertical alignment to work for polygons and not just points and lines. For maps with polygon layers that are not "space filling" (i.e. buildings), the preferred label position is outside of the polygon, and you would choose a vertical alignment of Above or Below. For the old method of labels guaranteed to be on the polygon, choose On. Currently the menu text also includes "the Line" after Above, On, or Below, but this should probably be removed if you like this change. regards, Larry -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's
Re: [JPP-Devel] Vertical alignment now works for polygons in Label Style
Hi Nils, I agree with your analysis except that OJ has no explicit definition of polygon (or any other geometry type) layers, so setting the default intelligently does not seem practical. Of course, you could loop though all of the features for the layer to determine if the layer contained only polygons, but this could be a performance issue with some database layers. I like your on the feature wording though. Larry On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Nils Kuhn nils.k...@bws-gmbh.de wrote: Hi Larry, thanks for your effort, I think this new function would be a nice and useful option for labeling! I don't know if I am getting the problem correctly, but couldn't the entries of the vertical alignment-combobox be changed to above the feature, on the feature and below the feature? For existing polygon-layers the vertical alignment should be set to on the feature automatically if someone activates the labels-tab of the styles-dialog and the style actually is set to on the feature (as the previous default). I haven't looked into the affected classes and I am not as well informed about the OJ-code, so maybe my ideas are not realizable... Regards, Nils Michaël Michaud schrieb: Hi, Larry Thanks Stefan. I would appreciate feedback from others on how vertical alignment for polygons affects their work, plugins, or tutorials. If necessary, I can change the default so that it acts like it did before the mod (for new layers). Unfortunately, (for existing layers) the default setting for vertical alignment was Above the Line but the Style was On the Line, so there could be lots of unintended consequences for existing layers. Does anyone have suggestions as to how these could be minimized? This change will not affect my work as I don't use styles too much. But it's always good to have more choice. That's nice to have a new option. The only way I can think of to solve the confusion between Above Line and On the line is - to let Above the line have its old meaning even for polygons (can think Above the line traversing the polygon horizontaly and passing through its middle) - adding Above/Below the polygon or Above/Below the feature which will act as your new option for polygons and which will act as Above/Below line for point/linestring Just an idea to keep backward compatibility. I do not say it should be done that way, as it adds more menu items without adding really new capabilities. Maybe another option could be to create a small beantool to migrate old Above line styles to new On style for a selection of layers. Michaël regards, Larry On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Stefan Steiniger sst...@geo.uzh.ch mailto:sst...@geo.uzh.ch sst...@geo.uzh.ch wrote: is welcome, I would say. thanks! Larry Becker schrieb: I made an experimental change to LabelStyle to allow vertical alignment to work for polygons and not just points and lines. For maps with polygon layers that are not space filling (i.e. buildings), the preferred label position is outside of the polygon, and you would choose a vertical alignment of Above or Below. For the old method of labels guaranteed to be on the polygon, choose On. Currently the menu text also includes the Line after Above, On, or Below, but this should probably be removed if you like this change. regards, Larry -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] Vertical alignment now works for polygons in Label Style
Thanks Stefan. I would appreciate feedback from others on how vertical alignment for polygons affects their work, plugins, or tutorials. If necessary, I can change the default so that it acts like it did before the mod (for new layers). Unfortunately, (for existing layers) the default setting for vertical alignment was Above the Line but the Style was On the Line, so there could be lots of unintended consequences for existing layers. Does anyone have suggestions as to how these could be minimized? regards, Larry On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Stefan Steiniger sst...@geo.uzh.ch wrote: is welcome, I would say. thanks! Larry Becker schrieb: I made an experimental change to LabelStyle to allow vertical alignment to work for polygons and not just points and lines. For maps with polygon layers that are not space filling (i.e. buildings), the preferred label position is outside of the polygon, and you would choose a vertical alignment of Above or Below. For the old method of labels guaranteed to be on the polygon, choose On. Currently the menu text also includes the Line after Above, On, or Below, but this should probably be removed if you like this change. regards, Larry -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] Vertical alignment now works for polygons in Label Style
Hi, Larry Thanks Stefan. I would appreciate feedback from others on how vertical alignment for polygons affects their work, plugins, or tutorials. If necessary, I can change the default so that it acts like it did before the mod (for new layers). Unfortunately, (for existing layers) the default setting for vertical alignment was Above the Line but the Style was On the Line, so there could be lots of unintended consequences for existing layers. Does anyone have suggestions as to how these could be minimized? This change will not affect my work as I don't use styles too much. But it's always good to have more choice. That's nice to have a new option. The only way I can think of to solve the confusion between Above Line and On the line is - to let Above the line have its old meaning even for polygons (can think Above the line traversing the polygon horizontaly and passing through its middle) - adding Above/Below the polygon or Above/Below the feature which will act as your new option for polygons and which will act as Above/Below line for point/linestring Just an idea to keep backward compatibility. I do not say it should be done that way, as it adds more menu items without adding really new capabilities. Maybe another option could be to create a small beantool to migrate old Above line styles to new On style for a selection of layers. Michaël regards, Larry On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Stefan Steiniger sst...@geo.uzh.ch mailto:sst...@geo.uzh.ch wrote: is welcome, I would say. thanks! Larry Becker schrieb: I made an experimental change to LabelStyle to allow vertical alignment to work for polygons and not just points and lines. For maps with polygon layers that are not space filling (i.e. buildings), the preferred label position is outside of the polygon, and you would choose a vertical alignment of Above or Below. For the old method of labels guaranteed to be on the polygon, choose On. Currently the menu text also includes the Line after Above, On, or Below, but this should probably be removed if you like this change. regards, Larry -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] Vertical alignment now works for polygons in Label Style
is welcome, I would say. thanks! Larry Becker schrieb: I made an experimental change to LabelStyle to allow vertical alignment to work for polygons and not just points and lines. For maps with polygon layers that are not space filling (i.e. buildings), the preferred label position is outside of the polygon, and you would choose a vertical alignment of Above or Below. For the old method of labels guaranteed to be on the polygon, choose On. Currently the menu text also includes the Line after Above, On, or Below, but this should probably be removed if you like this change. regards, Larry -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
