Re: [j-nsp] M7i to Extreme BD6808

2008-01-29 Thread Alain Briant
Hello

Since your problem seems basic
I would advice you to try to connect your M7i to some other kind of 
equipment on one hand
And your BD6K switch on the other hand separately

You have a silly physical problem or negotiation problem.

On the M7i side the PE-4FE-TX card is MDI
On the BD6K side I thought that every kind of equipment at Extreme are 
also auto MDI-MDX but it seems that they have the regular cabling of a 
switch that's to say MDX.

Normally the correct cabling should be with the use of a 
Straight-through cable.

Go ahead with some physical tests using some other equipment like PC to 
check the link status of each ports separately
and after that you will go on with the negotiation parameters.

 From a PC to the M7i you should use a crossed-over cable
 From a PC to the BD6K you should use a direct cable


Regards
Alain



John T. Yocum a écrit :

Hello,

Got a strange problem. I'm trying to setup an aggregated ethernet 
connection between a PE-4FE-TX and an Extreme BD6808 with F48Ti.

I've tried both both straight through and cross-over cables but I can't 
get a link-light on either side. As well, neither of them log an event 
of a connection error.

Anyone else had any trouble getting them to connect, or have any advice? 
And, yes I did check, the ports are enabled on both sides.

Thanks,
John
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Re: [j-nsp] L2VPN path in a LDP core

2008-01-29 Thread Umar Ahmed
Its not a stupid question, that's how we learn :) 


regards,

 

Umar Ahmed

JNCIE-M # 281, FNCNE, Numpty # 1


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To: Paolo Autore
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Subject: Re: [j-nsp] L2VPN path in a LDP core

Thank you very much for your help and response. That helps me a lot.
After login in more routers. It seems that some of them do runs RSVP. In
some of the LSP's have got ldp-tunneling configured. The juniper web
pages simply says Enable the LSP to be used for LDP tunneling.
However, after digging the juniper web sites, and some of my outdated
in-house documents, it seems that it has something to do with
load-balancing and hash calculation of the LSP's.

Sorry to bother you gurus with stupid questions yet somehow i am pretty
much on my own now

2008/1/28, Paolo Autore [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Sorry-- I didn't see that you were using LDP as the signaling
protocol.

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amos 
 Rosenboim
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 To: wang dong bei; juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [j-nsp] L2VPN path in a LDP core


 Since you are using LDP, which (at least for me) means that you don't 
 have any MPLS traffic engineering in the network, then LDP LSP follows

 the IGP path.
 This means that a simple trace route can show you the path between the

 edge routers.

 Cheers,

 Amos




 On Jan 28, 2008, at 3:25 PM, Paolo Autore wrote:

  Try this command
  show rsvp session extensive
 
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wang dong 
  bei
  Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 08:26
  To: Radu Pavaloiu
  Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
  Subject: Re: [j-nsp] L2VPN path in a LDP core
 
  Hi Radu,
 
  Could you enlighten me with more details about it?
 
  regards,
 
  william
 
  2008/1/28, Radu Pavaloiu [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Hi,
  ,
  You have MPLS OAM.
 
  Kindest Regards
 
  Radu Pavaloiu
  Service Provider Team Leader
  CCIE #14582, JNCIS M/T
  mobile: +40 743286118
  phone: +40 21 3178787 ext. 45
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  www.datanets.ro   Believe in more
 
  In protocol design, perfection has been reached not when there is 
  nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.
 
 
 
  wang dong bei wrote:
  Hi Talents,
 
  I have got a LDP based MPLS core with a few CE's attached to the
  PE's.
  Those
  CE's are running l2vpn and l3vpn. When one CE is trying to
  communicate
  with
  another, ether via l2vpn and/or l3vpn, how can i know exactly 
  which
  P's
  are
  being transversed?
 
  thanks in advance for your help.
 
  dong bei
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[j-nsp] Ip share interface

2008-01-29 Thread sunnyday
hello
i have a question regarding giving  vpn access to the internet
i have seen one way to do it is via a shared ip interface.
host1(config)#virtual-router pe1:pe11host1:pe1:pe11(config)#interface ip 
internethost1:pe1:pe11(config-if)#ip share-interface gig 
2/2.10host1:pe1:pe11(config-if)#ip address 10.1.1.3 255.255.255.255
host1:pe1:pe11(config-if)#exit
host1:pe1:pe11(config)#ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 ip internet1 when i tried to 
configure it the shared interface was ethernet and it was not possible any 
ideas on a workaround?E310-Lab:vr2:vpn1(config)#ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 ip 
internet% invalid next-hop for a multiaccess interface2 what the ip of the 
shared interface should be?in the range of the shared interface? or it doesnt 
matter what ip will i use?thanks in advance
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Re: [j-nsp] The Switch is ON !!!

2008-01-29 Thread Sabri Berisha
On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 06:47:59PM +0300, Alexandre Snarskii wrote:

Hi,

 noting that these 'switches' will be MPLS-able in this year, so
 it can be used not only as 'enterprise switch', but as SP one.
 And their EX 4200-24F is always ideally suited for metro ethernet 
 distribution/access levels...

http://www.juniper.net/switch/products.html

The specs say:

Layer 3 Features: IPv4

Max number of ARP entries: 16,000

Max number of IPv4 unicast routes in hardware: 12,000

Max number of IPv4 multicast routes in hardware: 2,000

Routing protocols: RIPv1/v2, OSPF, BGP, ISIS

12k of routes would work 25 years ago for a service provider :)

Thanks,

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Re: [j-nsp] The Switch is ON !!!

2008-01-29 Thread Eric Van Tol
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Sabri Berisha
 Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:56 AM
 To: Alexandre Snarskii
 Cc: Juniper-NSP Mailing list
 Subject: Re: [j-nsp] The Switch is ON !!!

 The specs say:
 
 Layer 3 Features: IPv4
 
 Max number of ARP entries: 16,000
 
 Max number of IPv4 unicast routes in hardware: 12,000
 
 Max number of IPv4 multicast routes in hardware: 2,000
 
 Routing protocols: RIPv1/v2, OSPF, BGP, ISIS
 
 12k of routes would work 25 years ago for a service provider :)
 
 Thanks,
 
 -- 
 Sabri

Why would customer edge switches servicing the typical voice/data
customer require full routes?  Out of the hundreds of Ethernet circuits
that we've deployed using Cisco ME3400 switches, only 3 customers
require full routes - in that case, we multihop them to a peer with full
routes.  A 1% need for such capacity doesn't justify the cost of a
switch/router that can do a full table.  Maybe our customer base is
different than others, though.

That said, none of the metro ethernet stackable switches that I know of
(Foundry, Cisco ME-series, Telco Systems, MRV, etc.) have enough TCAM
and/or memory to take full routes, so I'm still not sure the point is
valid.

-evt
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Re: [j-nsp] The Switch is ON !!!

2008-01-29 Thread Edson Cardoso
I guess this product will compete with Extreme Networks, Foundry, Cisco 
Catalyst stuff and some others..
 
Edson



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On Tuesday, 29 January 2008, Matt Yaklin wrote:

 Did juniper buy out another switching company or is this their
 design from the ground up?


Their design, according to our account team.
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Re: [j-nsp] The Switch is ON !!!

2008-01-29 Thread Rolf Mendelsohn
Hi Guys,

Why do they have POE on all models, surely nobody in SP environment wants 
that?

cheers
/rolf

On Tuesday 29 January 2008 16:47:59 Alexandre Snarskii wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 12:32:37PM -0200, GIULIANO (UOL) wrote:
  Be welcome to the new Juniper EX-Series Family of Enterprise
  Class Switches:
 
  http://www.juniper.net/index.html

 Impressive. Especially footnote about Advanced Feature License:

 AFL including IPv6 Routing, IS-IS, BGP, MBGP, MPLS, Enhanced GRE Tunnels
 (7) available for purchase with JUNOS 9.1 in Q2'08.

 noting that these 'switches' will be MPLS-able in this year, so
 it can be used not only as 'enterprise switch', but as SP one.
 And their EX 4200-24F is always ideally suited for metro ethernet
 distribution/access levels...

 PS: if anybody knows, what MPLS features it will support - can you
 share it to me ? :)

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Re: [j-nsp] The Switch is ON !!!

2008-01-29 Thread Alexandre Snarskii
On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 04:55:38PM +0100, Sabri Berisha wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 06:47:59PM +0300, Alexandre Snarskii wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
  noting that these 'switches' will be MPLS-able in this year, so
  it can be used not only as 'enterprise switch', but as SP one.
  And their EX 4200-24F is always ideally suited for metro ethernet 
  distribution/access levels...
 
 http://www.juniper.net/switch/products.html
 
 The specs say:
 
 Layer 3 Features: IPv4
 Max number of ARP entries: 16,000
 Max number of IPv4 unicast routes in hardware: 12,000
 Max number of IPv4 multicast routes in hardware: 2,000
 Routing protocols: RIPv1/v2, OSPF, BGP, ISIS
 
 12k of routes would work 25 years ago for a service provider :)

Yes, this switch will not be able to run full-view. So what ? :) 
Most (98%) of our customers dont need it, and those in need will
have their vlan terminated not on that switch but on some router... 

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Re: [j-nsp] The Switch is ON !!!

2008-01-29 Thread Alexandre Snarskii
On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 12:32:37PM -0200, GIULIANO (UOL) wrote:
 Be welcome to the new Juniper EX-Series Family of Enterprise
 Class Switches:
 
 http://www.juniper.net/index.html

Impressive. Especially footnote about Advanced Feature License: 

AFL including IPv6 Routing, IS-IS, BGP, MBGP, MPLS, Enhanced GRE Tunnels (7)
available for purchase with JUNOS 9.1 in Q2'08.

noting that these 'switches' will be MPLS-able in this year, so
it can be used not only as 'enterprise switch', but as SP one.
And their EX 4200-24F is always ideally suited for metro ethernet 
distribution/access levels...

PS: if anybody knows, what MPLS features it will support - can you
share it to me ? :) 

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Re: [j-nsp] The Switch is ON !!!

2008-01-29 Thread Samuel


 Did juniper buy out another switching company or is this their
 design from the ground up?

It is their design from the ground up.


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Re: [j-nsp] The Switch is ON !!!

2008-01-29 Thread Joe Provo
On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 12:32:37PM -0200, GIULIANO (UOL) wrote:
 Be welcome to the new Juniper EX-Series Family of Enterprise
 Class Switches:
 
 http://www.juniper.net/index.html
 
It'll be interesting to hear juniper folks compare it to the crisco
nexus that was announced yesterday/

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Re: [j-nsp] The Switch is ON !!!

2008-01-29 Thread David Ball
   4 models of 3200s and 5 models of 4200s, some having all POE ports
and others having only 1/3 of the ports supporting POE.  Doesn't sound
unreasonable to me, as they're likely trying to cover a broader
customer base.  9 models of wiring-closet switches from a historically
router-only vendor sounds like a good first stab to me.
  In my case (an SP), we'd only ever use the SFP-based models, which
naturally don't have POE.

David


On 29/01/2008, Rolf Mendelsohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Guys,

 Why do they have POE on all models, surely nobody in SP environment wants
 that?

 cheers
 /rolf

 On Tuesday 29 January 2008 16:47:59 Alexandre Snarskii wrote:
  On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 12:32:37PM -0200, GIULIANO (UOL) wrote:
   Be welcome to the new Juniper EX-Series Family of Enterprise
   Class Switches:
  
   http://www.juniper.net/index.html
 
  Impressive. Especially footnote about Advanced Feature License:
 
  AFL including IPv6 Routing, IS-IS, BGP, MBGP, MPLS, Enhanced GRE Tunnels
  (7) available for purchase with JUNOS 9.1 in Q2'08.
 
  noting that these 'switches' will be MPLS-able in this year, so
  it can be used not only as 'enterprise switch', but as SP one.
  And their EX 4200-24F is always ideally suited for metro ethernet
  distribution/access levels...
 
  PS: if anybody knows, what MPLS features it will support - can you
  share it to me ? :)
 
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Re: [j-nsp] The Switch is ON !!!

2008-01-29 Thread Matt Yaklin


On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Joe Provo wrote:

 On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 12:32:37PM -0200, GIULIANO (UOL) wrote:
 Be welcome to the new Juniper EX-Series Family of Enterprise
 Class Switches:

 http://www.juniper.net/index.html

 It'll be interesting to hear juniper folks compare it to the crisco
 nexus that was announced yesterday/


Did juniper buy out another switching company or is this their
design from the ground up?

matt

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Re: [j-nsp] The Switch is ON !!!

2008-01-29 Thread Eric Van Tol
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Rolf Mendelsohn
 Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 11:02 AM
 To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [j-nsp] The Switch is ON !!!
 
 Hi Guys,
 
 Why do they have POE on all models, surely nobody in SP 
 environment wants 
 that?
 
 cheers
 /rolf
 

Speak for yourself!  There are plenty of reasons why an SP would want
PoE, as there are no shortage of devices in an ISP network that might
require it.  WAPs, Ethernet demarcation devices, media converters, etc.

-evt
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Re: [j-nsp] The Switch is ON !!!

2008-01-29 Thread Dan Farrell
Actually he can speak for us on this one, too. I asked my cohort here
what devices we had in our datacenters that would need POE... you know
what I heard?

... cricket...


I told a vendor rep recently that there is no way we would ever buy POE
switches for our hosting work... and now he's smiling because he knows I
like the sound of Juniper switching. Getting ready to eat my words...

dan

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:18 PM
To: Rolf Mendelsohn; juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] The Switch is ON !!!

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Rolf Mendelsohn
 Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 11:02 AM
 To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [j-nsp] The Switch is ON !!!
 
 Hi Guys,
 
 Why do they have POE on all models, surely nobody in SP 
 environment wants 
 that?
 
 cheers
 /rolf
 

Speak for yourself!  There are plenty of reasons why an SP would want
PoE, as there are no shortage of devices in an ISP network that might
require it.  WAPs, Ethernet demarcation devices, media converters, etc.

-evt
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Re: [j-nsp] IPv6 questions

2008-01-29 Thread Scott Morris
And unless you are on only certain particular devices (e.g. L3 switches)
then the end device won't necessarily have any relevant clue what VLAN it's
on.

I have never seen/heard of an RFC for it either and would certainly wonder
WHY?.  :)

Scott 

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Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:44 PM
To: snort bsd
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Subject: Re: IPv6 questions


snort bsd wrote:
 Never mind
 
 it is the VLAN number. But which RFC define this? 

I've never seen an IPv6 RFC specify to put the VLAN number in the link-local
address.
Thus this must be an (odd) choice made by some implementation. Perhaps the
implementation somehow requires that all the link-local addresses for all
its (sub)interfaces be unique, even though the RFCs assume that the
implementation should be able to deal with multiple interfaces with same
same link-local address.

Erik

 Thanks all
 
 Dave
 
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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; juniper-nsp juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Sent: Monday, 28 January, 2008 3:05:59 PM
 Subject: IPv6 questions
 
 
 Hi All:
 
 With link-local IPv6 address, the converting from MAC-48 to EDU-64  
 address format (FF FE stuffing). How does the VLAN tags affect the  
 conversion?
 
 With the rule of FF FE stuffing, I can see clearly work on the ptp  
 interfaces. But on those Ethernet based VLANs, it doesn't seem to 
 follow  that pattern:
 
 Current address: 00:90:69:4a:b9:5d, Hardware address: 
 00:90:69:4a:b9:5d
 
 well, i assume the link-local should be fe80::290:69ff:fe4a:b95d/64.
  actually, it shows:
 
 Destination: fe80::/64, Local: fe80::290:6903:94a:b95d
 
 how does the router get this 03 09 instead of ff fe?
 
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Re: [j-nsp] The Switch is ON !!!

2008-01-29 Thread Matthew Crocker

I wonder if the EX4200 can have layer 3 on all ports.  A 48 port GigE  
router would be nice,  I just ordered two Cisco 3750G-Es for that  
exact purpose.  I like the stacking capabilities of the EX4200

-Matt

On Jan 29, 2008, at 11:57 AM, Scott Morris wrote:

 These aren't core...  If you're needing to run a full table on every  
 single
 device you have, you may consider a different design strategy!

 Scott

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sabri  
 Berisha
 Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:56 AM
 To: Alexandre Snarskii
 Cc: Juniper-NSP Mailing list
 Subject: Re: [j-nsp] The Switch is ON !!!

 On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 06:47:59PM +0300, Alexandre Snarskii wrote:

 Hi,

 noting that these 'switches' will be MPLS-able in this year, so it  
 can
 be used not only as 'enterprise switch', but as SP one.
 And their EX 4200-24F is always ideally suited for metro ethernet
 distribution/access levels...

 http://www.juniper.net/switch/products.html

 The specs say:

 Layer 3 Features: IPv4

 Max number of ARP entries: 16,000

 Max number of IPv4 unicast routes in hardware: 12,000

 Max number of IPv4 multicast routes in hardware: 2,000

 Routing protocols: RIPv1/v2, OSPF, BGP, ISIS

 12k of routes would work 25 years ago for a service provider :)

 Thanks,

 --
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Re: [j-nsp] IPv6 questions

2008-01-29 Thread snort bsd
It does make sense though. Say one megabits interface with 20 VLANs. In that 
scenario, every VLAN, usually has own link-local address. It is more practical 
than multiple interfaces with same link-local address.

I found this on Juniper router and now assume it is Juniper specific 
implementation.

Thanks all

- Original Message 
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To: Erik Nordmark [EMAIL PROTECTED]; snort bsd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, 29 January, 2008 12:36:55 PM
Subject: RE: IPv6 questions


And unless you are on only certain particular devices (e.g. L3
 switches)
then the end device won't necessarily have any relevant clue what VLAN
 it's
on.

I have never seen/heard of an RFC for it either and would certainly
 wonder
WHY?.  :)

Scott 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Erik
Nordmark
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:44 PM
To: snort bsd
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; juniper-nsp
Subject: Re: IPv6 questions


snort bsd wrote:
 Never mind
 
 it is the VLAN number. But which RFC define this? 

I've never seen an IPv6 RFC specify to put the VLAN number in the
 link-local
address.
Thus this must be an (odd) choice made by some implementation. Perhaps
 the
implementation somehow requires that all the link-local addresses for
 all
its (sub)interfaces be unique, even though the RFCs assume that the
implementation should be able to deal with multiple interfaces with
 same
same link-local address.

Erik

 Thanks all
 
 Dave
 
 - Original Message 
 From: snort bsd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; juniper-nsp juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Sent: Monday, 28 January, 2008 3:05:59 PM
 Subject: IPv6 questions
 
 
 Hi All:
 
 With link-local IPv6 address, the converting from MAC-48 to EDU-64  
 address format (FF FE stuffing). How does the VLAN tags affect the  
 conversion?
 
 With the rule of FF FE stuffing, I can see clearly work on the ptp  
 interfaces. But on those Ethernet based VLANs, it doesn't seem to 
 follow  that pattern:
 
 Current address: 00:90:69:4a:b9:5d, Hardware address: 
 00:90:69:4a:b9:5d
 
 well, i assume the link-local should be fe80::290:69ff:fe4a:b95d/64.
  actually, it shows:
 
 Destination: fe80::/64, Local: fe80::290:6903:94a:b95d
 
 how does the router get this 03 09 instead of ff fe?
 
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Re: [j-nsp] The Switch is ON !!!

2008-01-29 Thread Wink
This makes it more useful than the Nexus.  MPLS = good.

Alexandre Snarskii wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 12:32:37PM -0200, GIULIANO (UOL) wrote:
   
 Be welcome to the new Juniper EX-Series Family of Enterprise
 Class Switches:

 http://www.juniper.net/index.html
 

 Impressive. Especially footnote about Advanced Feature License: 

 AFL including IPv6 Routing, IS-IS, BGP, MBGP, MPLS, Enhanced GRE Tunnels (7)
 available for purchase with JUNOS 9.1 in Q2'08.

 noting that these 'switches' will be MPLS-able in this year, so
 it can be used not only as 'enterprise switch', but as SP one.
 And their EX 4200-24F is always ideally suited for metro ethernet 
 distribution/access levels...

 PS: if anybody knows, what MPLS features it will support - can you
 share it to me ? :) 

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[j-nsp] Strange J-Series IPSec Issue

2008-01-29 Thread Matt Stevens
I'm trying to build a site-to-site IPSec tunnel with two J-4350's, but 
I'm running into a strange issue.

The tunnel appears to be up, the two routers see each other as neighbors 
in OSPF, I can even ping between the two routers.

In addition a host on one side can ping a host on the other side. The 
problem comes when I try to put real traffic over the link. Connecting 
   to port 80 on a remote machine doesn't work. Packet captures show no 
traffic coming back from the remote side.

I'm sure I'm missing something simple - but I'm at a loss as to what it is.

If anyone has any suggestions, they'd be much appreciated.
-- 
matt


Here's my partial config:

root show ospf neighbor
Address  Interface  State ID   Pri  Dead
10.206.32.1  sp-0/0/0.11Full  218.81.216.253   12837

root show route protocol ospf

inet.0: 11 destinations, 12 routes (11 active, 0 holddown, 0 hidden)
+ = Active Route, - = Last Active, * = Both

10.206.32.0/24 *[OSPF/10] 00:42:47, metric 2
  via sp-0/0/0.11
10.206.32.1/32 *[OSPF/10] 04:24:03, metric 1
  via sp-0/0/0.11
10.206.34.0/24 *[OSPF/10] 00:42:47, metric 2
  via sp-0/0/0.11
10.206.35.0/24 *[OSPF/10] 00:42:47, metric 2
  via sp-0/0/0.11
192.168.1.1/32  [OSPF/10] 05:05:46, metric 2
  via sp-0/0/0.11
218.81.216.0/24*[OSPF/10] 00:42:47, metric 2
  via sp-0/0/0.11
224.0.0.5/32   *[OSPF/10] 1w0d 01:42:30, metric 1
   MultiRecv

__juniper_private1__.inet.0: 2 destinations, 2 routes (2 active, 0 
holddown, 0 hidden)

protocols {
 ospf {
 area 0.0.0.0 {
 interface sp-0/0/0.11;
 interface ge-0/0/0.0 {
 passive;
 }
 }
 }
}
services {
 service-set ipsec {
 next-hop-service {
 inside-service-interface sp-0/0/0.11;
 outside-service-interface sp-0/0/0.10;
 }
 ipsec-vpn-options {
 local-gateway 1.1.1.1;
 }
 ipsec-vpn-rules ipsec-out;
 }
 ipsec-vpn {
 rule ipsec-out {
 term 1 {
 then {
 remote-gateway 2.2.2.2;
 dynamic {
 ike-policy ike-policy-hq;
 ipsec-policy ipsec-policy-hq;
 }
 clear-dont-fragment-bit;
 tunnel-mtu 1440;
 }
 }
 match-direction input;
 }
 ipsec {
 proposal ipsec-proposal-hq {
 protocol esp;
 authentication-algorithm hmac-sha1-96;
 encryption-algorithm aes-192-cbc;
 lifetime-seconds 3600;
 }
 policy ipsec-policy-hq {
 proposals ipsec-proposal-hq;
 }
 }
 ike {
 proposal site-to-site {
 authentication-method pre-shared-keys;
 dh-group group2;
 authentication-algorithm sha1;
 encryption-algorithm aes-192-cbc;
 lifetime-seconds 86400;
 }
 policy ike-policy-hq {
 mode main;
 proposals site-to-site;
 pre-shared-key ascii-text XXX; ## SECRET-DATA
 }
 }
 establish-tunnels immediately;
 }
}
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Re: [j-nsp] The Switch is ON !!!

2008-01-29 Thread Tom Storey
 This makes it more useful than the Nexus.  MPLS = good.

If youre looking at using it in an SP environment, yes.

But the Nexus isnt targeted at SP environments...

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Re: [j-nsp] The Switch is ON !!!

2008-01-29 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 10:01:08AM -0500, Dorian Kim wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 09:41:01AM -0500, Joe Provo wrote:
  It'll be interesting to hear juniper folks compare it to the crisco
  nexus that was announced yesterday/
 
 Bit of apples and oranges comparison between the two

Obviously the proper comparison here is to the Cisco 3560G/E, the Foundry 
FESX, and the Extreme Summit x450 product lines. Interestingly, the EX 
series seems to be priced a fair bit below the comparable Cisco product 
across the board (typically Juniper seem to price a bit higher than the 
Cisco version, since their products are generally better and can command 
a higher price), and not much higher than the equivalent Foundry and 
Extreme products.

In theory these boxes may be targeted at Enterprises (well some at any 
rate, clearly there are a huge percentage who will never be able to grasp 
non-Cisco, or who depend on Cisco proprietary protocols), but to me it 
looks more like they're targeted at the datacenter (also going up against 
Foundry and Extreme) than the enterprise wiring closet. Features like MPLS 
(for doing VPN PE), and ISIS support should make this box very popular for 
colo and hosting environments doing switch-per-rack aggregation.

I could personally have done with support for a few more than 12k routes 
(no mention of IPv6/MPLS capacity, hopefully this won't impact IPv4 
services), and 4xXFP uplinks to compete with some of the newer and much 
cheaper Broadcom reference design boxes like the Dell 6224F and Force10 
S25P, but generally speaking this looks like a very interesting platform 
(and the bigger chassis even more so :P). Unfortunately 2 10GE uplinks for 
a 48-port 1GE box isn't quite good enough any more.

The only product Juniper seems to be missing in this lineup is a Nx10G 1U 
box, going up against the Cisco 3560E-12D 12-port X2 box (recently 
repriced to $20k list), Force10 S2410 (24-port XFP), Fujitsu XG2000 
(20-port XFP), and other similar products. I think if they made a 24-port 
or even a 12-port XFP 1U box that was stackable, MPLS capable, and perhaps 
supported a few more routes, it would sell like hotcakes.

/product review

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