Re: [j-nsp] BGP and OSPF ECMP

2008-07-17 Thread Harry Reynolds
Hmm. Normally for LB we expect to see a ulst next hop, which in turn contains 
two or more ucst NHs. The FT display indicates that a single NH is installed 
for that prefix.

Can you describe the nature of the test traffic? If its all one flow I'd expect 
all to take the same NH even when LB is in effect. AFAIK, MX behavior is no 
different here.



Regards






> -Original Message-
> From: Marlon Duksa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:57 PM
> To: Harry Reynolds; juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] BGP and OSPF ECMP
> 
> I tried this on MX960 and it seams that load balancing is on 
> by default. How do I turn load balancing off?
> In the RT I can see both next hops:
> 2.2.2.2/32 *[OSPF/10] 02:21:29, metric 1
>   to 10.0.2.2 via ge-8/0/5.0
> > to 10.0.3.2 via ge-5/1/0.0
> 
> 
> In the FT I can see only one path:
> 2.2.2.2/32 user 1 10.0.3.2   ucst   572   
>   5 ge-5/1/0.0
> 
> But when I actually send traffic and run 'monitor interface 
> traffic', I see that traffic is going out over both links.
> This 2.2.2.2 next hop is actually a PE router in VPN.
> 
> Is load balancing on by default on MX? I didn't configure 
> anything special to turn it on.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:43 AM, Boyd, Benjamin R 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
>   You can further control the flow with:
>   
>   [edit forwarding-options hash-key]
>   
>   family inet {
>  layer-3;
>  layer-4;
>   }
>   family mpls {
>  label-1;
>  label-2;
>   }
>   
>   If you're load balancing over a decent amount of hops I 
> wouldn't hash
>   both layer-3/layer-4 and label-1/label-2 on every 
> router because then
>   your per-flow becomes quite segregated and you might 
> find issues where
>   your load balancing on many routers will break the 
> seemingly load
>   balancing of another router since the hashing algorithm 
> will produce the
>   same result on each router.
>   
>   -Ben
>   
> 
>   -Original Message-
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   
>   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of Harry Reynolds
>   Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 6:18 PM
>   To: Marlon Duksa; juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
>   Subject: Re: [j-nsp] BGP and OSPF ECMP
>   
>   Do you have a per-packet (really per flow) LB policy 
> applied to the
>   forwarding table?
>   
>   This is needed to install two or more forwarding paths 
> in the pfe. BGP
>   multipath is a control plane tie breaker, but by 
> default only one of the
>   winners is installed as active in the FT.
>   
>   HTHs
>   
>   
>   [edit]
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] show policy-options
>   policy-statement lb {
>  then {
>  load-balance per-packet;
>  }
>   }
>   
>   [edit]
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] show routing-options forwarding-table 
> traceoptions {
>  file forwarding_table;
>  flag route detail;
>   }
>   export lb;
>   
>   
>   > -Original Message-
>   > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Marlon Duksa
>   > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:22 PM
>   > To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
>   > Subject: [j-nsp] BGP and OSPF ECMP
>   >
>   > Does anyone know how to enable ecmp in Junos (I'm on M320
>   > with Junos 9.0)?
>   >
>   > I have a vrf with BGP configured for multipath. In the
>   > forwarding table I see only one path installed even though I
>   > have two  equal cost physical links to the  NH.
>   > My IGP is OSPF and in the routing table OSPF is showing two
>   > paths (only one active >) and in the fwd table only one path
>   > is selected. How do I force Junos to select both links.
>   >
>   > Similar with LDP which is used for the transport (tunnel) in
>   > this VPN environment.
>   >
>   > So it looks to me that multipath in BGP is not taking effect
>   > because underlying protocols (OSPF and LDP) is not utilizing
>   > both links??
>   > Thanks,
>   > Marlon
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Re: [j-nsp] NSRP through 802.1Q trunks

2008-07-17 Thread Ivan c
I tried to hard code the peer MAC for probes and it hasnt taken
exec nsrp probe interface [ mac_addr ]

I still see the default NSRP MAC for the destination

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Ivan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Doesn't seem to be the case though, even though logic would dictate
> that the switch should just pass the frames
>
> I am starting to suspect that the Nortel do not recognise the frames
> and thus are dropping it, as the HA interface MAC only appears on the
> access port and not on the trunk port.
>
>  HA1  dot1q trunk
>   HA1
> NS5400<--->5520<-->5520<--->NS5400
>
> It would be helpfull if Juniper provided at least minimual detail on
> the protocol.
>
> Any Nortel ninja's out there?
>
> cheers
> Ivan
>
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:03 AM, Stefan Fouant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> You'll be fine as long as you are not expecting the Netscreen to tag
>> the frames.  Otherwise, the HA interfaces (or pseudo-HA interfaces
>> that you've designated as such) look like regular Ethernet interfaces,
>> so as long as you've got a normal Ethernet handoff with end-to-end L2
>> connectivity between both pair of devices it should work.  Heck, I
>> suppose you could even run NSRP over an L2VPN if you wanted, not sure
>> why one would want to do so, but it's possible...
>>
>> HTHs.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Ivan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Hey, anyone have any experience with running active/passive NSRP
>>> betwen datacentres via 802.1Q trunks? specially through Nortel 5520
>>> switches?
>>>
>>> I can't find any specific info on NSRP protocol requirements, only
>>> from the screenos cookbook, which states "The only requirement is that
>>> the Layer 2 frames arrive at the remote peer as sent."
>>>
>>> I have verfied the trunking works by plugging in laptops on each end
>>> with an IP on the same vlan, and connectivity is fine.
>>> The get nrsp ha says state:disconnected and I have the NSRP HA probes 
>>> running.
>>>
>>> Any special requirements or info on trunking NSRP?
>>>
>>> thanks
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Re: [j-nsp] BGP and OSPF ECMP

2008-07-17 Thread Marlon Duksa
I tried this on MX960 and it seams that load balancing is on by default. How
do I turn load balancing off?
In the RT I can see both next hops:
2.2.2.2/32 *[OSPF/10] 02:21:29, metric 1
  to 10.0.2.2 via ge-8/0/5.0
> to 10.0.3.2 via ge-5/1/0.0


In the FT I can see only one path:
2.2.2.2/32 user 1 10.0.3.2   ucst   572 5 ge-5/1/0.0

But when I actually send traffic and run 'monitor interface traffic', I see
that traffic is going out over both links.
This 2.2.2.2 next hop is actually a PE router in VPN.

Is load balancing on by default on MX? I didn't configure anything special
to turn it on.

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:43 AM, Boyd, Benjamin R <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You can further control the flow with:
>
> [edit forwarding-options hash-key]
>
> family inet {
>layer-3;
>layer-4;
> }
> family mpls {
>label-1;
>label-2;
> }
>
> If you're load balancing over a decent amount of hops I wouldn't hash
> both layer-3/layer-4 and label-1/label-2 on every router because then
> your per-flow becomes quite segregated and you might find issues where
> your load balancing on many routers will break the seemingly load
> balancing of another router since the hashing algorithm will produce the
> same result on each router.
>
> -Ben
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Reynolds
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 6:18 PM
> To: Marlon Duksa; juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] BGP and OSPF ECMP
>
> Do you have a per-packet (really per flow) LB policy applied to the
> forwarding table?
>
> This is needed to install two or more forwarding paths in the pfe. BGP
> multipath is a control plane tie breaker, but by default only one of the
> winners is installed as active in the FT.
>
> HTHs
>
>
> [edit]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] show policy-options
> policy-statement lb {
>then {
>load-balance per-packet;
>}
> }
>
> [edit]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] show routing-options forwarding-table traceoptions {
>file forwarding_table;
>flag route detail;
> }
> export lb;
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon Duksa
> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:22 PM
> > To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
> > Subject: [j-nsp] BGP and OSPF ECMP
> >
> > Does anyone know how to enable ecmp in Junos (I'm on M320
> > with Junos 9.0)?
> >
> > I have a vrf with BGP configured for multipath. In the
> > forwarding table I see only one path installed even though I
> > have two  equal cost physical links to the  NH.
> > My IGP is OSPF and in the routing table OSPF is showing two
> > paths (only one active >) and in the fwd table only one path
> > is selected. How do I force Junos to select both links.
> >
> > Similar with LDP which is used for the transport (tunnel) in
> > this VPN environment.
> >
> > So it looks to me that multipath in BGP is not taking effect
> > because underlying protocols (OSPF and LDP) is not utilizing
> > both links??
> > Thanks,
> > Marlon
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Re: [j-nsp] IPSEC into VRF

2008-07-17 Thread Bryan Phillips
I know you only asked about the J and MX series. The ERX platform will
terminate a tunnel in the VRF.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Benny Amorsen
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 4:08 AM
To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [j-nsp] IPSEC into VRF

Which Juniper routers can terminate an IPSEC tunnel in a virtual
router? M-series and T-series routers with the ES PIC can do it
according to this: http://www.juniper.net/products/modules/100089.pdf

What about the J-series and the MX-series?


/Benny


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Re: [j-nsp] JUNOScript API error

2008-07-17 Thread Simon Chen
My experience is that JUNOScript would try to initiate the connection
to a weird port - I cannot remember which port that it, but you can
find out easily by doing a tcpdump.

Basically what I did was locating that port number in the source code
and changing it to 22.

Hope this helps.

-Simon

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Boyd, Benjamin R
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All,
>
> I'm playing with JUNOScript and after installation I get the following
> error:
>
> [get_chassis_inventory]# perl get_chassis_inventory.pl x.x.x.x -m ssh
> login: *
> password:
> ERROR[1]: recv failed: EOF
> ERROR[2]: initial handshake with JUNOScript server failed
>
> Has anyone seen this or know the fix/cause?
>
>
>  -Ben
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[j-nsp] test please ignoring

2008-07-17 Thread nan.li.juniper
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[j-nsp] JUNOScript API error

2008-07-17 Thread Boyd, Benjamin R
All,
 
I'm playing with JUNOScript and after installation I get the following
error:
 
[get_chassis_inventory]# perl get_chassis_inventory.pl x.x.x.x -m ssh
login: *
password: 
ERROR[1]: recv failed: EOF
ERROR[2]: initial handshake with JUNOScript server failed
 
Has anyone seen this or know the fix/cause?
 
 
 -Ben

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Re: [j-nsp] PtP link over FR

2008-07-17 Thread Scott Morris
Fair enough.   I simply read the scenario involving two routers sharing a
frame-relay p2p link.  :)

Scott 

-Original Message-
From: Jesper Skriver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 9:27 AM
To: Scott Morris
Cc: 'Farhan Jaffer'; 'Juniper Puck'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] PtP link over FR

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 07:49:09AM -0400, Scott Morris wrote:
> There is no ARP in frame-relay.  More specifically, on a P2P 
> subinterface, there's no mapping either.

I think you're mis understanding my suggestion, I was suggesting that router
A could only reach router B because the router in the middle did proxy ARP
for B's address, so A could reach it.

It has nothing to do with ARP over FR.

> The assumption is that if it's not MY address it must be yours.  So as 
> long as you believe the other side is within the defined subnet, then 
> you're good.
> 
> If you have 10.1.1.1/24 on one side, and 10.1.1.2/27 on the other, 
> they will still talk to each other just fine.  At least until you try 
> to run ospf or something that cares about the netmask!

Yes - unless you have 10.1.1.1/24 configured on A towards 'Juniper' and
10.1.1.2/27 configured on B towards 'Juniper'

/Jesper

> 
> Scott
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jesper 
> Skriver
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:24 AM
> To: Farhan Jaffer
> Cc: Juniper Puck; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] PtP link over FR
> 
> Let me guess, on Cisco Router A you got an ARP entry for Cisco Router 
> B's address when you put a Cisco router in the middle, as the Cisco 
> router has proxy-arp enabled by default.
> 
> Or to put it more clearly the IP addresses used FR p2p pvc is a subset 
> of the IP addresses used on the link between Cisco Router A and Juniper
Router.
> 
> Or on Cisco router A you have a static route without a next-hop 
> address to the IP subnet used on the FR link
> 
> In either case it's a mis configuration, that gets 'saved'/'hidden' by 
> the fact proxy-arp is enabled by default on the Cisco router.
> 
> /Jesper
> 
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 04:06:31PM +0500, Farhan Jaffer wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > There is an interesting situation, let me discuss the scenario 
> > first,
> > 
> > Cisco Router A (same n/w)  Juniper Router -(FR 
> > point-to-point pvc) --- Cisco Router B.
> > 
> > PVC is Active & point to point connectivity is OK. But the ping 
> > response from cisco router A to B via FR is unreachable & vice versa.
> > 
> > however if i replace Juniper router with Cisco Router, it works fine.
> > 
> > Is there any IP forwarding like thing? or any other problem.
> > 
> > Thanks very much in advance.
> > 
> > -FJ
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Re: [j-nsp] PtP link over FR

2008-07-17 Thread Jesper Skriver
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 07:49:09AM -0400, Scott Morris wrote:
> There is no ARP in frame-relay.  More specifically, on a P2P subinterface,
> there's no mapping either. 

I think you're mis understanding my suggestion, I was suggesting
that router A could only reach router B because the router in the
middle did proxy ARP for B's address, so A could reach it.

It has nothing to do with ARP over FR.

> The assumption is that if it's not MY address it
> must be yours.  So as long as you believe the other side is within the
> defined subnet, then you're good.
> 
> If you have 10.1.1.1/24 on one side, and 10.1.1.2/27 on the other, they will
> still talk to each other just fine.  At least until you try to run ospf or
> something that cares about the netmask!

Yes - unless you have 10.1.1.1/24 configured on A towards
'Juniper' and 10.1.1.2/27 configured on B towards 'Juniper'

/Jesper

> 
> Scott 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jesper Skriver
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:24 AM
> To: Farhan Jaffer
> Cc: Juniper Puck; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] PtP link over FR
> 
> Let me guess, on Cisco Router A you got an ARP entry for Cisco Router B's
> address when you put a Cisco router in the middle, as the Cisco router has
> proxy-arp enabled by default.
> 
> Or to put it more clearly the IP addresses used FR p2p pvc is a subset of
> the IP addresses used on the link between Cisco Router A and Juniper Router.
> 
> Or on Cisco router A you have a static route without a next-hop address to
> the IP subnet used on the FR link
> 
> In either case it's a mis configuration, that gets 'saved'/'hidden' by the
> fact proxy-arp is enabled by default on the Cisco router.
> 
> /Jesper
> 
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 04:06:31PM +0500, Farhan Jaffer wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > There is an interesting situation, let me discuss the scenario first,
> > 
> > Cisco Router A (same n/w)  Juniper Router -(FR 
> > point-to-point pvc) --- Cisco Router B.
> > 
> > PVC is Active & point to point connectivity is OK. But the ping 
> > response from cisco router A to B via FR is unreachable & vice versa.
> > 
> > however if i replace Juniper router with Cisco Router, it works fine.
> > 
> > Is there any IP forwarding like thing? or any other problem.
> > 
> > Thanks very much in advance.
> > 
> > -FJ
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Re: [j-nsp] Tunnel Services

2008-07-17 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:59:44AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> - *May* use an explicit tunnel PIC in one of the 4 PIC slots (but since
> there is always a built-in tunnel PIC, why would you want to?).

If I remember correctly, the onboard "Tunnel PIC" gives you only
~150mbps throughput. I may be wrong as I wasn't able to find any
evidence for that anymore in the tech docs on www.juniper.net


Best regards,
Daniel

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Re: [j-nsp] PtP link over FR

2008-07-17 Thread Farhan Jaffer
Thanks for all.

It was one mistake from my side. I used management interface ip
address for routes on Juniper :)

It's working fine now.

Thanks again.

-FJ


On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Farhan Jaffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> There is an interesting situation, let me discuss the scenario first,
>
> Cisco Router A (same n/w)  Juniper Router -(FR
> point-to-point pvc) --- Cisco Router B.
>
> PVC is Active & point to point connectivity is OK. But the ping
> response from cisco router A to B via FR is unreachable & vice versa.
>
> however if i replace Juniper router with Cisco Router, it works fine.
>
> Is there any IP forwarding like thing? or any other problem.
>
> Thanks very much in advance.
>
> -FJ
>
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Re: [j-nsp] PtP link over FR

2008-07-17 Thread Scott Morris
There is no ARP in frame-relay.  More specifically, on a P2P subinterface,
there's no mapping either.  The assumption is that if it's not MY address it
must be yours.  So as long as you believe the other side is within the
defined subnet, then you're good.

If you have 10.1.1.1/24 on one side, and 10.1.1.2/27 on the other, they will
still talk to each other just fine.  At least until you try to run ospf or
something that cares about the netmask!

Scott 

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Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:24 AM
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Subject: Re: [j-nsp] PtP link over FR

Let me guess, on Cisco Router A you got an ARP entry for Cisco Router B's
address when you put a Cisco router in the middle, as the Cisco router has
proxy-arp enabled by default.

Or to put it more clearly the IP addresses used FR p2p pvc is a subset of
the IP addresses used on the link between Cisco Router A and Juniper Router.

Or on Cisco router A you have a static route without a next-hop address to
the IP subnet used on the FR link

In either case it's a mis configuration, that gets 'saved'/'hidden' by the
fact proxy-arp is enabled by default on the Cisco router.

/Jesper

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 04:06:31PM +0500, Farhan Jaffer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> There is an interesting situation, let me discuss the scenario first,
> 
> Cisco Router A (same n/w)  Juniper Router -(FR 
> point-to-point pvc) --- Cisco Router B.
> 
> PVC is Active & point to point connectivity is OK. But the ping 
> response from cisco router A to B via FR is unreachable & vice versa.
> 
> however if i replace Juniper router with Cisco Router, it works fine.
> 
> Is there any IP forwarding like thing? or any other problem.
> 
> Thanks very much in advance.
> 
> -FJ
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Re: [j-nsp] PtP link over FR

2008-07-17 Thread Scott Morris
The PVC being "up" is a signaling of LMI telling you that it's in an ACTIVE
state.  

It's more like you can call me on the telephone.  But if you speak japanese
and I do not, we really can't have much of a conversation yet the "link" is
still up!

HTH,

Scott
 

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Subject: Re: [j-nsp] PtP link over FR

On Thursday 17 July 2008 19:13:50 Scott Morris wrote:

> Juniper routers (like most other vendors) does not do CISCO frame 
> encapsulation, so if you change to IETF on the Cisco side you should 
> be fine.

That's what I thought of at first, but then realized the op said the PVC was
up and there was point-to-point connectivity between the Cisco and Juniper
over the FR link.

Mark.

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Re: [j-nsp] Load balancing: hash algorithm

2008-07-17 Thread Paul Goyette
The specific algorithm differs on different chipsets, and is
generally considered to be a "trade secret" of Juniper.  This
decision was made several years ago when I suggested filing a
patent application for one of the chipset's algorithm.

Paul Goyette
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> Importance: High
> 
> 
> > The hash algorithm uses the source IP address, the 
> destination IP address, the Protocol field and the Incoming 
> Interface Index in order to generate a key. 
> 
> Thanks David. How is chosen the next-hop with this generate 
> key? I am looking for this algorithm.
> 
> Regards,
> Samuel
> 
> 
> 
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> Objet : RE: [j-nsp] Load balancing: hash algorithm
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The hash algorithm uses the source IP address, the 
> destination IP address, the Protocol field and the Incoming 
> Interface Index in order to generate a key. 
> 
> Regards
> David 
> 
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> juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net Objet : [j-nsp] Load balancing: 
> hash algorithm
> 
> Hi Group,
> 
> Do you know how work hash algorithm used in load balancing 
> (only layer-3)? Is there some documentation about it?
> 
> Thanks,
> Samuel 
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Re: [j-nsp] PtP link over FR

2008-07-17 Thread Jesper Skriver
Let me guess, on Cisco Router A you got an ARP entry for Cisco
Router B's address when you put a Cisco router in the middle, as
the Cisco router has proxy-arp enabled by default.

Or to put it more clearly the IP addresses used FR p2p pvc is a
subset of the IP addresses used on the link between Cisco Router A
and Juniper Router.

Or on Cisco router A you have a static route without a next-hop address
to the IP subnet used on the FR link

In either case it's a mis configuration, that gets
'saved'/'hidden' by the fact proxy-arp is enabled by default on the
Cisco router.

/Jesper

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 04:06:31PM +0500, Farhan Jaffer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> There is an interesting situation, let me discuss the scenario first,
> 
> Cisco Router A (same n/w)  Juniper Router -(FR
> point-to-point pvc) --- Cisco Router B.
> 
> PVC is Active & point to point connectivity is OK. But the ping
> response from cisco router A to B via FR is unreachable & vice versa.
> 
> however if i replace Juniper router with Cisco Router, it works fine.
> 
> Is there any IP forwarding like thing? or any other problem.
> 
> Thanks very much in advance.
> 
> -FJ
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Re: [j-nsp] PtP link over FR

2008-07-17 Thread Scott Morris
On your Cisco router, when you look at "show frame map" what do you see as
the encapsulation?  Is it CISCO or IETF?

Juniper routers (like most other vendors) does not do CISCO frame
encapsulation, so if you change to IETF on the Cisco side you should be
fine.

Note, this is different than Cisco LMI, which Juniper does support.

HTH,

Scott 

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Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:07 AM
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Subject: [j-nsp] PtP link over FR

Hi,

There is an interesting situation, let me discuss the scenario first,

Cisco Router A (same n/w)  Juniper Router -(FR point-to-point
pvc) --- Cisco Router B.

PVC is Active & point to point connectivity is OK. But the ping response
from cisco router A to B via FR is unreachable & vice versa.

however if i replace Juniper router with Cisco Router, it works fine.

Is there any IP forwarding like thing? or any other problem.

Thanks very much in advance.

-FJ
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[j-nsp] PtP link over FR

2008-07-17 Thread Farhan Jaffer
Hi,

There is an interesting situation, let me discuss the scenario first,

Cisco Router A (same n/w)  Juniper Router -(FR
point-to-point pvc) --- Cisco Router B.

PVC is Active & point to point connectivity is OK. But the ping
response from cisco router A to B via FR is unreachable & vice versa.

however if i replace Juniper router with Cisco Router, it works fine.

Is there any IP forwarding like thing? or any other problem.

Thanks very much in advance.

-FJ
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Re: [j-nsp] Vpn with rsa

2008-07-17 Thread sunnyday
I don't understand how to assign remote settings shrewsoft only has xauth
not auth  as an option.i have tried it from trust to untrust with
authentication applied on the policy for a specific user
And when he requested internet service he got a prompt to enter username and
password I entered the username I have configured in the RSA server and the
token code as password and worked.
The problem is on the vpn authentication that Im confused on the way the
authentication occurs.(Do I have to configure a locally user? If I don't how
will he receive ip address?) I  even  put it in the policy of the vpn
"Untrust to Trust" "authentication" the rsa server and got nothing. I would
really appreciated if  you help me out here.

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Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 5:38 PM
To: sunnyday
Cc: Juniper-Nsp; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Vpn with rsa

Whoops, sorry I forgot to mention that you can use an IKE/XAuth
account as well.  Yep, if you've got it already set up, you should
just be able to forward the authentication requests toward the RSA
server as opposed to the local database and you should be good to go.

As I mentioned before however, the SecurID cannot assign remote
settings to an L2TP or an XAuth user, so if you intend on assigning
any remote settings, you are probably better off using an Auth user
for this purpose.

Good luck!

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:21 AM, sunnyday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have an working ipsec vpn  with xauth.i use the shrew soft vpn client.
can
> I just forward the requests to the RSA authentication manager instead of
the
> local database?
> I tried it but with luck.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Stefan Fouant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 5:17 PM
> To: sunnyday
> Cc: Juniper-Nsp; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Vpn with rsa
>
> For dial-up VPN applications, you can configure an Auth or L2TP user
> and authenticate them against the SecurID database.  I would recommend
> configuring an Auth user as the SecurID cannot assign remote settings
> to an L2TP user.  Once you've configured your Auth user account and
> set up authentication against the SecurID server, it's really just a
> simple matter of specifying the Auth user in the IKE Phase 1 profile.
>
> For more information, you are really going to need to dig into the
> manuals.  The "ScreenOS Concepts and Examples Guide Volume 9: User
> Authentiation" should provide you an ample starting point.
>
> HTHs.
>
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 3:52 AM, sunnyday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I need to configure (if possible ) a vpn with rsa authentication.i have
> some
>> tokens which generate the tokens codes and have setup the securID server.
>>
>> I already have a IPSEC vpn. I need to know what steps to take to use rsa
>> tokens to authenticate when requesting access to the vpn.
>>
>> Any help appreciated.
>>
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Re: [j-nsp] Load balancing: hash algorithm

2008-07-17 Thread samuel.gay
In the Juniper documentation I can read:

"By default, or if you specify only the layer-3 statement, the router uses the 
incoming
interface index as well as the following Layer 3 information in the packet 
header to
load balance traffic:
- Source IP address
- Destination IP address
- Protocol" 

And:

"On routing platforms with the Internet Processor II ASIC, when per-packet load
balancing is configured, traffic between routers with multiple paths is divided 
into
individual traffic flows (up to a maximum of 16 equal-cost load-balanced paths).
Packets for each individual flow are kept on a single interface."

With this information I have two question:
- Is the key (generate with hash algorithm) always the same if the incoming 
interface, source IP address, destination IP address and protocol are the same? 
If yes is it possible to predict the next-hop?
- Is there a way to know the next-hop used for an individual flow (if I have an 
Internet Processor II ASIC)?

Samuel


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Objet : RE: [j-nsp] Load balancing: hash algorithm


Hi,

The hash algorithm uses the source IP address, the destination IP address, the 
Protocol field and the Incoming Interface Index in order to generate a key. 

Regards
David 

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Objet : [j-nsp] Load balancing: hash algorithm

Hi Group,

Do you know how work hash algorithm used in load balancing (only layer-3)? Is 
there some documentation about it?

Thanks,
Samuel 

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Re: [j-nsp] Load balancing: hash algorithm

2008-07-17 Thread samuel.gay

> The hash algorithm uses the source IP address, the destination IP address, 
> the Protocol field and the Incoming Interface Index in order to generate a 
> key. 

Thanks David. How is chosen the next-hop with this generate key? I am looking 
for this algorithm.

Regards,
Samuel



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Hi,

The hash algorithm uses the source IP address, the destination IP address, the 
Protocol field and the Incoming Interface Index in order to generate a key. 

Regards
David 

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Objet : [j-nsp] Load balancing: hash algorithm

Hi Group,

Do you know how work hash algorithm used in load balancing (only layer-3)? Is 
there some documentation about it?

Thanks,
Samuel 

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Re: [j-nsp] Load balancing: hash algorithm

2008-07-17 Thread david.roy

Hi,

The hash algorithm uses the source IP address, the destination IP address, the 
Protocol field and the Incoming Interface Index in order to generate a key. 

Regards
David 

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Hi Group,

Do you know how work hash algorithm used in load balancing (only layer-3)? Is 
there some documentation about it?

Thanks,
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[j-nsp] Load balancing: hash algorithm

2008-07-17 Thread samuel.gay
Hi Group,

Do you know how work hash algorithm used in load balancing (only
layer-3)? Is there some documentation about it?

Thanks,
Samuel 

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