Re: [j-nsp] Debugging SONET (OC-3) errors

2008-08-05 Thread Amos Rosenboim

Hello Chris,

If I remember correctly then B3 errors are associated with clocking  
alignment along the circuit.
This also correlate to what you are saying about passing through 7  
carriers.


Regards

Amos Rosenboim
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



On Aug 4, 2008, at 9:54 PM, Chris Adams wrote:

I have an OC-3 (POS running PPP) between two POPs (an M10i at each  
end)
getting errors, and this is the first time I've had to debug errors  
on a

SONET link.

I am seeing BIP-B3 and REI-P incrementing in spurts on the Z end (e.g.
99 BIP-B3 and 45 REI-P, both showing 2 seconds), as well as ES-P and
ES-PFE matching the seconds (2 in since I cleared the counters).  No
other error counters are incrementing (no section or line errors at
all).  I have seen some errors at the A end as well, but not as  
many or

as often.

When I get a spurt of errors, both ends will show an interface flap  
(at

least most of the time; I'm not sure this is 100% of the time or not).

Reading various docs, this means there is a problem somewhere between
telco devices with the transmission from the Z end to the A end.  Is
that correct?

I opened a telco ticket, but they pretty much blew it off.  I know
little about SONET so I am having trouble telling them what to check.
I'd like to avoid intrusive testing if possible (since this is a major
circuit for us).

Part of the problem is that this circuit goes through 7 (yes 7!)
different carriers, and I am not sure that the telco that owns the  
whole
thing is looking at anything other than the loop on the Z end (the  
only

piece they actually own).

Any suggestions?
--
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Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.
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Re: [j-nsp] VPLS LM Status?

2008-08-05 Thread Krasimir Avramski
A typical usage of multiple local sites is multihoming. One site can be
multihomed another not.

I noticed you complain for this but it should work - just specify site
preferences in multihomed sites ( although I think bgp selection should fall
down skipping some steps like lowest IGP metric ..)

 

The mesh-groups is notion in regards to split-horizon rules in VPLS.

They are used (9.1) for interoperability between LDP and BGP signaling.

Also will be used is future releases for H-VPLS ( ldp sig) and inter-AS
VPLS.

 

In your setup the local mesh-groups (interfaces under site-IDs) should
forward flooded and learned traffic  - working as designed.

 

Regards,

Krasi 

 

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From: Marlon Duksa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:14 AM
To: Krasimir Avramski
Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] VPLS LM Status?

 

It works. Thanks.
Can you please elaborate a bit more  what do you mean by local mesh-groups?
I tried to forward learned traffic as well as flooded from interfaces
between local sites and interfaces within local sites...traffic was flowing
in any case.
Are those mesh groups supposed to supress some traffic? Not quite sure what
is the purpose of multiple local sites? If I have many interfaces in a
single site, wouldn't that work as well?
Thanks,
marlon



On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 1:30 AM, Krasimir Avramski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

Only one pseudowire is setup between PEs of a VPLS domain.

There are already pseudowires 1-2 and 1-3, so site ID 1 is minimum
designated in PE for this VPLS domain. At the forwarding plain you should
not have any problems in communication between interfaces in site 4 to local
interfaces in site 1 and remote site IDs 2 and 3.
LM, RM states are not considered errors, that is more information for the
pseudowire selection.

Think of a site (VE) as a selection of PE-CE interfaces (local mesh-group)
for a vpls domain.

Also when configuring multihoming specify the site preferences in order PEs
to solve collisions and choose single forwarder.


Regards,
Krasi


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:juniper-nsp-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon Duksa
 Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 1:16 AM
 To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [j-nsp] VPLS LM Status?

 Does anyone know why would I get the LM status (local site ID not minimum
 designated) on my VPLS connection.
 I have two sites configured on a single PE in the same VPLS.
 One site is coming up just fine, but the other is not.

 The remote side for the 'not up' connection is complaining with the RM
 status (remote site ID not minimum designated).

 What does this 'ID not minimun designated' mean?
 My sites ID are unique withing the VPLS and within the range that is
 defined
 for the site-range.

 This is the config on my local router:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] show routing-instances
 vpls {
 instance-type vpls;
 interface ge-0/1/1.0;
 interface ge-8/2/0.0;
 interface ge-5/3/4.0;
 route-distinguisher 100:100;
 vrf-target target:200:200;
 protocols {
 vpls {
 site-range 10;
 no-tunnel-services;
 site green {
 site-identifier 1;
 interface ge-0/1/1.0;
 interface ge-8/2/0.0;
 }
 site multi {
 site-identifier 4;
 interface ge-5/3/4.0;
 }
 }
 }
 }




 And this is the status:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] run show vpls connections
 Layer-2 VPN connections:

 Legend for connection status (St)
 EI -- encapsulation invalid  NC -- interface encapsulation not
 CCC/TCC/VPLS
 EM -- encapsulation mismatch WE -- interface and instance encaps not
 same
 VC-Dn -- Virtual circuit downNP -- interface hardware not present
 CM -- control-word mismatch  - -- only outbound connection is up
 CN -- circuit not provisioned- -- only inbound connection is up
 OR -- out of range   Up -- operational
 OL -- no outgoing label  Dn -- down
 LD -- local site signaled down   CF -- call admission control failure
 RD -- remote site signaled down  SC -- local and remote site ID collision
 LN -- local site not designated  LM -- local site ID not minimum
 designated
 RN -- remote site not designated RM -- remote site ID not minimum
 designated
 XX -- unknown connection status  IL -- no incoming label
 MM -- MTU mismatch   MI -- Mesh-Group ID not availble

 Legend for interface status
 Up -- operational
 Dn -- down

 Instance: vpls
   Local site: green (1)
 connection-site   Type  St Time last up  # Up
 trans
 2 rmt   Up Aug  3 22:02:16 2008
 1
   Local interface: lsi.1048578, Status: Up, Encapsulation: VPLS
 Description: Intf - vpls vpls local site 1 remote site 2
   Remote PE: 2.2.2.2, Negotiated control-word: No
   Incoming label: 262154, Outgoing label: 800032
 3

Re: [j-nsp] ex-series: counters for transit traffic ?

2008-08-05 Thread Alexandre Snarskii
On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 06:39:22PM +0400, Alexandre Snarskii wrote:
 
 Hi!
 
 It looks like ex-series switches does not count nor packets nor
 bytes, nor ingress nor egress, for transit traffic. 
 
 For example, on physical interfaces all I can get is Local statistics: 

Well, for physical interfaces it was my fault (detailed statistics
is may be too detailed): counters are ok for the interface:

  Traffic statistics:
   Input  bytes  : 989129150 bps
   Output bytes  : 235515820 bps
   Input  packets:695950 pps
   Output packets:   2796090 pps

and the only (cosmetic) bug is that they are not counted as 
'Transit statistics' for unit 0. 

Thanks to everybody who pointed me to that. 

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[j-nsp] Re : SSG XAUTH

2008-08-05 Thread Amit Saxena
Hi Sven,Yes it is possible. You need to select the configured authenctication 
server in Default XAUTH settings and the required IP pool.User will be 
authenticated from the remote authentication server and IP will be assigned 
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[j-nsp] Rebuilding an M20 from a HD crash

2008-08-05 Thread Lucas T
Hello All,

We had an M20 hard drive die on our routing engine. We ordered a used
IBM hard drive and the Juniper seems to be detecting it. The problem
we are having,however, is figuring out how to get JunOS back onto the
hard drive.

I was reading the JunOS Cookbook and there's a section for making
and using an emergency boot disk. I tried that out, but it's not
working.

Has anyone else had this problem or has ideas about how to get the M20
back up and running from a crashed HD?

Thanks for the help!

-Lucas
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Re: [j-nsp] Debugging SONET (OC-3) errors

2008-08-05 Thread Kevin Oberman
 Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:54:27 -0500
 From: Chris Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I have an OC-3 (POS running PPP) between two POPs (an M10i at each end)
 getting errors, and this is the first time I've had to debug errors on a
 SONET link.
 
 I am seeing BIP-B3 and REI-P incrementing in spurts on the Z end (e.g.
 99 BIP-B3 and 45 REI-P, both showing 2 seconds), as well as ES-P and
 ES-PFE matching the seconds (2 in since I cleared the counters).  No
 other error counters are incrementing (no section or line errors at
 all).  I have seen some errors at the A end as well, but not as many or
 as often.
 
 When I get a spurt of errors, both ends will show an interface flap (at
 least most of the time; I'm not sure this is 100% of the time or not).
 
 Reading various docs, this means there is a problem somewhere between
 telco devices with the transmission from the Z end to the A end.  Is
 that correct?
 
 I opened a telco ticket, but they pretty much blew it off.  I know
 little about SONET so I am having trouble telling them what to check.
 I'd like to avoid intrusive testing if possible (since this is a major
 circuit for us).
 
 Part of the problem is that this circuit goes through 7 (yes 7!)
 different carriers, and I am not sure that the telco that owns the whole
 thing is looking at anything other than the loop on the Z end (the only
 piece they actually own).
 
 Any suggestions?

I don't envy tracking something like this through 7 carriers!

In any case, BIP-B3 errors are data errors and REI errors are Remote
Error Indicators. Since you see PATH errors on both ends of the
circuit, it is somewhere in the middle. The errors are in bursts which
would indicate electrical noise at some OEO location (probably an ADM,
though both amplifiers and regens can do this) or a clocking problem.

Since REIs are reaching your equipment, some piece of gear at one of the
carriers is reporting errors. It's just tracking it down that can be
daunting. In may experience, the standard answer the first time you ask
a carrier about line errors is that they have seen nothing. The error is
probably at a hand-off from one carrier to another. Try to confirm which
carrier(s) are seeing any non-path errors. This will at least help
localize the issue.

Good luck!
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Re: [j-nsp] Debugging SONET (OC-3) errors

2008-08-05 Thread Clinton Work


If the errors are occurring frequently enough (once an hour), you could 
ask for a hard loopback on one end and ask the service provider to run a 
bert test from the other side towards the hard loopback.  The bert will 
see the path errors in the middle of the circuit which will prove the 
problem to the service provider. The downside being that your OC3c will 
be out of service for an extended period.  I had to resort to this 
method once on a protected OC48c where the hard loopbacks were 
progressively moved towards the middle of the facility where the fault 
was found. 

Clinton. 


Chris Adams wrote:

I have an OC-3 (POS running PPP) between two POPs (an M10i at each end)
getting errors, and this is the first time I've had to debug errors on a
SONET link.

I am seeing BIP-B3 and REI-P incrementing in spurts on the Z end (e.g.
99 BIP-B3 and 45 REI-P, both showing 2 seconds), as well as ES-P and
ES-PFE matching the seconds (2 in since I cleared the counters).  No
other error counters are incrementing (no section or line errors at
all).  I have seen some errors at the A end as well, but not as many or
as often.

  



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Clinton Work
Airdrie, AB

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Re: [j-nsp] Rebuilding an M20 from a HD crash

2008-08-05 Thread Jonas Frey
Hello,

its not that hard to do. In general you do the following:

If the flash is still working the RE should boot up fine saying that it
is creating an emergency /var partition in ram.
You should be able to login. 
Issue the following command:
request system snapshot partition

This will partition the hdd and copy JunOS over to it.
Basically this should be all you need to do. However it might be
required to reinstall JunOS via a jinstall package. YMMV.

Regards,
Jonas Frey

On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 17:22, Lucas T wrote:
 Hello All,
 
 We had an M20 hard drive die on our routing engine. We ordered a used
 IBM hard drive and the Juniper seems to be detecting it. The problem
 we are having,however, is figuring out how to get JunOS back onto the
 hard drive.
 
 I was reading the JunOS Cookbook and there's a section for making
 and using an emergency boot disk. I tried that out, but it's not
 working.
 
 Has anyone else had this problem or has ideas about how to get the M20
 back up and running from a crashed HD?
 
 Thanks for the help!
 
 -Lucas
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[j-nsp] J-web installation-j6300 router

2008-08-05 Thread Mohd Arshad
I have juniper j6300 router
i want to install j web graphic interface on it
previsly it was installed on it but i have disabled it from jweb
now i want to do again\
can any bodey help me for giving the commands and process for jweb installation 
of jweb in J6300 router
software version is 7.3R1.5
thanks
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[j-nsp] Routing options in J-Web

2008-08-05 Thread chiel
Hello,

 

I'm studding for my JNCIA-ER exam and that includes some j-web
configurations. But I noticed that on some M routers and on Olive you can't
configure any routing protocols. Is this option in J-Web only available on J
series routers? Or am I missing something.

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Re: [j-nsp] J-web installation-j6300 router

2008-08-05 Thread Christian Koch
request system software delete jweb
request system software add /var/tmp/blahblah
system services web-management http

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Mohd Arshad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have juniper j6300 router
 i want to install j web graphic interface on it
 previsly it was installed on it but i have disabled it from jweb
 now i want to do again\
 can any bodey help me for giving the commands and process for jweb 
 installation of jweb in J6300 router
 software version is 7.3R1.5
 thanks
 arshad


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