Re: [j-nsp] Next hop self for BGP

2010-04-26 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 11:30:08PM -0400, David water wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I guess there are multiple way of changing next-hop attribute to self. One
 write import policy with next-hop-self and apply under EBGP group, other is
 write export policy under IBGP group and other is at neighbor level.
 Anything else? Can some one describe it when and which one to use? In JNCIP
 book, it is as import under the IBGP group, I am still confuse what exactly
 are we doing there to avoid suboptimal routing via RR?

Changing next-hop to self as an import policy on an EBGP group won't 
work.  You'll end up changing the next-hop to yourself for the routes 
in your own local routing table, but you need to know the real, 
original next-hops at the PE router.
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Re: [j-nsp] any guidance on JNCIP-M

2010-04-26 Thread William Jackson
Read the book, study hard.
Get hands on, will be hard to pass and go further without hands on.

I passed this one in Jan 2010.



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Re: [j-nsp] any guidance on JNCIP-M

2010-04-26 Thread Chris Grundemann
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 08:48, David water dwater2...@gmail.com wrote:
 How to prepare for JNCIP M exam?

Take a look here:
http://weblog.chrisgrundemann.com/index.php/2009/jncip-lab-exam-faq/
and here: 
http://weblog.chrisgrundemann.com/index.php/2009/13-tips-for-passing-juniper-lab-tests/

I tried to lay out all the information I could in those two posts
(without breaking any rules / moral obligations). I hope it is
helpful.  If you (or anyone) has additional specific questions, let me
know and maybe I can add them to the FAQ, or create another one.

Also - for those that asked, a link to the study guide is included in
the third answer of the FAQ.

~Chris
(JNCIE-M #449)

PS - I plan on creating a similar FAQ for the JNCIE-M, if anyone has
questions for that exam please send them to me (off-list) and I will
do my best to include the answers in that forthcoming post.


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Re: [j-nsp] J Series - BGP Peering Router?

2010-04-26 Thread Truman Boyes
Hey Paul,


For what you want to do, you would be fine with a J-series. BGP instances means 
the number of BGP processes you would run inside additional routing-instances 
(ie. instance-type virtual-router, etc). If you are basically doing all your 
routing from inet.0, then you have essentially one BGP instance with multiple 
peers. I don't think the BGP peers on J-series is hard coded but rather the 
value that systest has qualified. 

As per Richard's comments, he is absolutely correct; you don't want to do 
millions of paths on J-series; but for a small number of routes you are working 
with, the box would work fine. As for performance, you would also be fine to 
push 200Mbps IMIX on the router. 

I suspect you may also want to disable the flow mode (aka, running in packet 
mode) if you run a newer software release on the J's. 

Kind regards,
Truman



On 22/04/2010, at 4:07 PM, Paul Stewart wrote:

 Thanks very much for the feedback.. I've received a few offline replies as
 well.
 
 To clarify the small nature of this application - we would be sending
 about 65 iBGP routes to the box and receiving about 4000 eBGP routes.  It's
 for a small peering pop/exchange point.
 
 Having said that, if I thought it would work we'd take some J6350's and dump
 some much larger tables for 600-800Mb/s applications involving about 20k
 routes or even maybe full tables depending on the application the
 feedback has been mixed so far to say the least ;)
 
 Travelling at the moment but going to fire up this handy J2320 I have laying
 around and dump a full table to it ... like to flap it a few times etc. and
 see what happens with 10.x loaded on it.
 
 Richard, I've heard you mention the rib/fib installation bug a few times but
 never seen it yet (we're slowly entering the Juniper world from Cisco).  Is
 there anything documented on this issue or more details we can look up
 somewhere?
 
 Best regards,
 
 Paul
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Richard A Steenbergen [mailto:r...@e-gerbil.net] 
 Sent: April-22-10 3:28 PM
 To: Paul Stewart
 Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: Re: [j-nsp] J Series - BGP Peering Router?
 
 On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:30:30PM -0400, Paul Stewart wrote:
 Hi there..
 
 I have a couple of applications pop up recently where I think a
 J-Series might suffice for BGP peering.  The application is a small
 peering POP doing about 200Mb/s of traffic, about 50 BGP peers, and
 total routes is roughly 4000 total.
 
 In our experience w/J-series running the old/regular JUNOS (can't speak
 to JUNOS-ES, which is really more of an integration of security features
 to make J-series a mini-SRX), this would probably be a bad idea (I'm
 assuming you mean more than 4000 routes, since you mention 400k later in
 the email). We evaluated J-series for use as route reflectors, and found
 that they suffer GREATLY from the ye olde slow rib/fib installation bug. 
 What might take a few minutes to install under extraordinary conditions
 like coming up from a fresh restart on M/T/MX could take 30 minutes to
 in some cases HOURS to install on J-series. When I asked Juniper people
 about it, they basically said we don't really support/recommend
 J-series for this application, and the software is heavily optimized 
 towards providing packet forwarding performance at the expense of bgp 
 performance. Of course they said that AFTER we spent money on those 
 stupid route reflector software licenses, which they continue to sell 
 even though the box is completely unusable as a route reflector. :)
 
 YMMV but on J-series running JUNOS as of 9.3R4 the only words I can use
 to describe loading up a lot of bgp routes/neighbors is epic disaster. 
 Maybe JUNOS-ES is better or different or something, I dunno.
 
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Re: [j-nsp] Cisco Reflexive Access-list

2010-04-26 Thread Alex

Hello there,
What You are asking is:

Not possible without AS-PIC on M/T-series
Not possible without MS-DPC on MX
Possible on J-series in packet-mode with SFW policies
Possible on J-series or SRX, in flow mode.

Regards
Alex

- Original Message - 
From: Juan C. Crespo R. jcre...@ifxnw.com.ve

To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 2:57 AM
Subject: [j-nsp] Cisco Reflexive Access-list



Guys

I have been trying to find a translation of this Cisco feature but is 
almost impossible to find it, so please give me a hand


IP access-list extended OUTBOUND
permit tcp any any reflect
permit udp any any reflect
permit icmp any any reflect

ip access-list extended INBOUND
evaluate OUTBOUND

inter serial 0/0/1
ip add 10.0.0.1 255.255.255.252
ip access-list extended INBOUND in
ip access-list extended OUTBOUND out




Thanks

JC


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Re: [j-nsp] any guidance on JNCIP-M

2010-04-26 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:24:45AM +0530, Dilip Srivastava wrote:
 Please send me study material

http://www.juniper.net/us/en/training/certification/JNCIP_studyguide.pdf

Is literally all you need. The exam is 99.9% straight out of the JNCIP
study guide, If anything the study guide is too thorough, only about 20%
of it is actually on the exam, and most of the more complicated
scenarios are nowhere to be found or are only a single question out of a
section. If you read and understand the study guide, you are all but
guaranteed to pass. :)

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[j-nsp] rib group

2010-04-26 Thread David water
All,

How does rib-group work in JUNOS? How does the import and export works using
rib-groups?

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