Re: [j-nsp] transparent VLANs

2010-10-06 Thread Phill Jolliffe
extended-vlan-vpls encap should forward TPIDs 0x8100, 0x9100, and 0x9901


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Re: [j-nsp] Where do packets with incomplete ARP resolution go?

2010-10-06 Thread Chris Evans
It typically is dropped... It has no where to send it so it drops it.
On Oct 6, 2010 2:20 PM, Kevin Day toa...@dragondata.com wrote:

 If there isn't an ARP entry for an address that should be local, what
happens to packets that go to that IP?

 Basically what I'm asking is, is it hardcoded to being blackholed, or is
there a way to redirect traffic to IPs that ARP is failing on to go to a
MAC of last resort instead of being dropped?

 -- Kevin


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[j-nsp] JunOS on EX-4200 stack corruption

2010-10-06 Thread TiM
Has anyone seen an issues where, once a stack looses power (all at once,
sadly), some members of the stack come up with corrupt JunOS on them?

We have a stack of 6 EX4200's.  Due to a power issue, all 6 lost power at
the same time.  When power was restored, the Master, the Backup and one
linecard mode switch came up fine.  The 3 other linecard mode switches
didn't.  On powerup they all reported shared libaries not being found and
similar file not found type errors.

Reinstalling JunOS from the boot prompt has fixed the problem.

Has anyone else encountered corrupt JunOS problems on EX4200's,
specifically in a stack configuration, before?

Thanks!

Tim

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Re: [j-nsp] JunOS on EX-4200 stack corruption

2010-10-06 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 12:09:16PM +1300, TiM wrote:
 Has anyone seen an issues where, once a stack looses power (all at once,
 sadly), some members of the stack come up with corrupt JunOS on them?

Yes, I've seem this happen.  The moral of the story is make sure you 
have good UPS battery backup and redundant power supplies.
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Re: [j-nsp] JunOS on EX-4200 stack corruption

2010-10-06 Thread TiM

On Thu, October 7, 2010 12:50 pm, Chuck Anderson wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 12:09:16PM +1300, TiM wrote:
 Has anyone seen an issues where, once a stack looses power (all at once,
 sadly), some members of the stack come up with corrupt JunOS on them?

 Yes, I've seem this happen.  The moral of the story is make sure you
 have good UPS battery backup and redundant power supplies.

Yes, we had all that.  Don't ask :)

Do Juniper know about, do you think it's worth logging a TAC case?

Tim


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Re: [j-nsp] JunOS on EX-4200 stack corruption

2010-10-06 Thread Keegan Holley
I've personally never seen this.  Maybe the power issues affected the flash
inside the switch?  I doubt the same would happen if you pulled the power
cords from all switches at once for example.

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 7:09 PM, TiM t...@muppetz.com wrote:

 Has anyone seen an issues where, once a stack looses power (all at once,
 sadly), some members of the stack come up with corrupt JunOS on them?

 We have a stack of 6 EX4200's.  Due to a power issue, all 6 lost power at
 the same time.  When power was restored, the Master, the Backup and one
 linecard mode switch came up fine.  The 3 other linecard mode switches
 didn't.  On powerup they all reported shared libaries not being found and
 similar file not found type errors.

 Reinstalling JunOS from the boot prompt has fixed the problem.

 Has anyone else encountered corrupt JunOS problems on EX4200's,
 specifically in a stack configuration, before?

 Thanks!

 Tim

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Re: [j-nsp] JunOS on EX-4200 stack corruption

2010-10-06 Thread Dale Shaw
Hi Tim,

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:09 AM, TiM t...@muppetz.com wrote:
 Has anyone seen an issues where, once a stack looses power (all at once,
 sadly), some members of the stack come up with corrupt JunOS on them?

 We have a stack of 6 EX4200's.  Due to a power issue, all 6 lost power at
 the same time.  When power was restored, the Master, the Backup and one
 linecard mode switch came up fine.  The 3 other linecard mode switches
 didn't.  On powerup they all reported shared libaries not being found and
 similar file not found type errors.

 Reinstalling JunOS from the boot prompt has fixed the problem.

 Has anyone else encountered corrupt JunOS problems on EX4200's,
 specifically in a stack configuration, before?

Yes, it's been a serious, ongoing problem for us. We have ~1200
switches across ~360 VCs. We're running JUNOS 10.0S1.

There is a PR for the problem - it's PR/543776. There is no permanent
fix as yet but there is a workaround available in 10.0R4, 10.1R4,
10.2R3, 10.3R2, 10.4R1 or later. It's called 'Automatic File System
Mirroring and Automatic Recovery' and at this stage you'll need to
talk to JTAC about it.

cheers,
Dale

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Re: [j-nsp] JunOS on EX-4200 stack corruption

2010-10-06 Thread TiM

On Thu, October 7, 2010 1:00 pm, Dale Shaw wrote:
 Hi Tim,

 On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:09 AM, TiM t...@muppetz.com wrote:
 Has anyone seen an issues where, once a stack looses power (all at once,
 sadly), some members of the stack come up with corrupt JunOS on them?

 We have a stack of 6 EX4200's.  Due to a power issue, all 6 lost power
 at
 the same time.  When power was restored, the Master, the Backup and one
 linecard mode switch came up fine.  The 3 other linecard mode switches
 didn't.  On powerup they all reported shared libaries not being found
 and
 similar file not found type errors.

 Reinstalling JunOS from the boot prompt has fixed the problem.

 Has anyone else encountered corrupt JunOS problems on EX4200's,
 specifically in a stack configuration, before?

 Yes, it's been a serious, ongoing problem for us. We have ~1200
 switches across ~360 VCs. We're running JUNOS 10.0S1.

 There is a PR for the problem - it's PR/543776. There is no permanent
 fix as yet but there is a workaround available in 10.0R4, 10.1R4,
 10.2R3, 10.3R2, 10.4R1 or later. It's called 'Automatic File System
 Mirroring and Automatic Recovery' and at this stage you'll need to
 talk to JTAC about it.

 cheers,
 Dale

Thanks very much Dale and thanks everyone else who replied.

Looks like we are, sadly, not alone.

Regards,

Tim

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Re: [j-nsp] JunOS on EX-4200 stack corruption

2010-10-06 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 12:55:17PM +1300, TiM wrote:
 
 On Thu, October 7, 2010 12:50 pm, Chuck Anderson wrote:
  On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 12:09:16PM +1300, TiM wrote:
  Has anyone seen an issues where, once a stack looses power (all at once,
  sadly), some members of the stack come up with corrupt JunOS on them?
 
  Yes, I've seem this happen.  The moral of the story is make sure you
  have good UPS battery backup and redundant power supplies.
 
 Yes, we had all that.  Don't ask :)
 
 Do Juniper know about, do you think it's worth logging a TAC case?

Yes, please do ask them why the BSD filesystem it uses doesn't have 
soft updates/softdep or journaling enabled.  Oh look here, Juniper was 
one of the sponsors to write journaling support for FreeBSD's UFS:

http://www.osnews.com/story/23205/FreeBSD_UFS_with_Softupdates_Journaling

So maybe we'll see it in JunOS eventually.
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Re: [j-nsp] JunOS on EX-4200 stack corruption

2010-10-06 Thread Ralph R. Rye
Experienced this issue with a customer as well.  JTAC recommend the process 
that Dale discussed in the previous post.

Ralph

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Subject: Re: [j-nsp] JunOS on EX-4200 stack corruption

Hi Tim,

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:09 AM, TiM t...@muppetz.com wrote:
 Has anyone seen an issues where, once a stack looses power (all at once,
 sadly), some members of the stack come up with corrupt JunOS on them?

 We have a stack of 6 EX4200's.  Due to a power issue, all 6 lost power at
 the same time.  When power was restored, the Master, the Backup and one
 linecard mode switch came up fine.  The 3 other linecard mode switches
 didn't.  On powerup they all reported shared libaries not being found and
 similar file not found type errors.

 Reinstalling JunOS from the boot prompt has fixed the problem.

 Has anyone else encountered corrupt JunOS problems on EX4200's,
 specifically in a stack configuration, before?

Yes, it's been a serious, ongoing problem for us. We have ~1200
switches across ~360 VCs. We're running JUNOS 10.0S1.

There is a PR for the problem - it's PR/543776. There is no permanent
fix as yet but there is a workaround available in 10.0R4, 10.1R4,
10.2R3, 10.3R2, 10.4R1 or later. It's called 'Automatic File System
Mirroring and Automatic Recovery' and at this stage you'll need to
talk to JTAC about it.

cheers,
Dale

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