Re: [j-nsp] EX2200 series and q-in-q (802.1ad)

2011-04-02 Thread Eric Van Tol
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 boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Stephane JAUNE
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 Subject: [j-nsp] EX2200 series and q-in-q (802.1ad)
 
 
   Hi all,
 
   Does somebody know if EX2200 series support q-in-q ? we would
 like to use some of them to tag customer traffic with a S-VLAN, and I
 only found that 802.1Q is supported.
 
 
   Regards.

Q-in-Q is now supported in 11.1, if you're that brave to use it.  Haven't 
tested it out yet to see what features are really available, but release notes 
indicate that it's supported.

-evt

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Re: [j-nsp] Changing SSH port on EX switches, M routers

2011-04-02 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 08:23:31PM -0400, Jesus Alvarez wrote:
 Is there a way to change the SSH port for managing the EX switches and M 
 routers? We normally avoid using the standard port 22.

No. I've been asking for that feature since... hm, around 2003 or
so.

Probably no customer demand. :-)

Best regards,
Daniel

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Re: [j-nsp] Changing SSH port on EX switches, M routers

2011-04-02 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 02:14:12PM +0200, Daniel Roesen wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 08:23:31PM -0400, Jesus Alvarez wrote:
  Is there a way to change the SSH port for managing the EX switches and M 
  routers? We normally avoid using the standard port 22.
 
 No. I've been asking for that feature since... hm, around 2003 or
 so.
 
 Probably no customer demand. :-)

I wonder if you could create an /etc/ssh/sshd_config file and set the 
port number in there...
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Re: [j-nsp] Changing SSH port on EX switches, M routers

2011-04-02 Thread Thomas Eichhorn

On 02.04.2011 14:22, Chuck Anderson wrote:

I wonder if you could create an /etc/ssh/sshd_config file and set the
port number in there...

Not exactly, because the sshd is started by inetd - you can as root
change that file - but you have to ensure it doesn't get changed
by mgd. So a cron script checking for what is in there once an hour
does the trick..

Tom
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Re: [j-nsp] Changing SSH port on EX switches, M routers

2011-04-02 Thread Jesus Alvarez

 No, I've been asking for this feature. :)

Thanks for your answer.

It should be trivial to implement a configurable SSH port in the Junos 
firmware and this would help in securing the router. Practically all 
scanners attempt SSH logins when port 22 is available but very few check 
all available ports. It is surprising that Juniper does not provide a 
way to change the SSH port.


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Re: [j-nsp] Changing SSH port on EX switches, M routers

2011-04-02 Thread Jesus Alvarez

Not exactly, because the sshd is started by inetd - you can as
root change that file - but you have to ensure it doesn't get
changed by mgd. So a cron script checking for what is in there
once an hour does the trick..


Thanks for your answer. That sounds like a clever workaround.

Are the sshd_config options the same as in OpenSSH? On Junos 10.2R3.10 
there is no /etc/ssh/sshd_config. Can I just create a file with a single 
line to change the port (leaving all other options as defaults)? e.g. 
something like


Port x

Could you share the portion of your cron script that replaces 
sshd_config and restarts sshd when required? I guess port 22 would still 
be available between the time mgd changes the ssh_config and the time 
the cron script restarts sshd. How frequently do you see mgd changing 
the sshd_config?


The SSH port should be configurable in the Junos config but this may be 
a reasonable way to get it implemented.



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Re: [j-nsp] Changing SSH port on EX switches, M routers

2011-04-02 Thread Scott T. Cameron
You should probably think about doing IP-based filtering on your management
networks.  It's going to guarantee a drop in random port scans/login
attempts vs obfuscating the listen port of ssh.

Scott

On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Jesus Alvarez jalva...@prw.net wrote:

  No, I've been asking for this feature. :)

 Thanks for your answer.

 It should be trivial to implement a configurable SSH port in the Junos
 firmware and this would help in securing the router. Practically all
 scanners attempt SSH logins when port 22 is available but very few check all
 available ports. It is surprising that Juniper does not provide a way to
 change the SSH port.


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[j-nsp] JUNOS and MS RPC

2011-04-02 Thread Glenn Krutsinger
Hello all,

Is anyone running MS products through SRX firewalls? How are you getting RPC to 
work? According to engineering, the ScreenOS ms-rpc-any isn't included in 
JUNOS, although, I do see the ALG catching the info based off of endpoint 
mapper sessions. Add to that the fact that MS changed their port range for RPC 
with Server 2008 has given me some real fun conversations with our server team.

Thanks,
Glenn


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Re: [j-nsp] JUNOS and MS RPC

2011-04-02 Thread Scott T. Cameron
I've got two sets of SRX3400 clusters, and the ALGs should come with:
caveat emptor.

Nice on paper and very similar to Linux conntrack modules, but in reality
the rule of thumb is it's better to have them disabled.

In the case of Microsoft, their technical papers will say your firewall
should allow 1024-65535 open.  In my datacenters, the only place where I
find this to be necessary is to domain controllers.  Most other MS software
can happily run off a specific TCP port.

YMMV.

Scott

On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Glenn Krutsinger gkrutsin...@compassion.com
 wrote:

 Hello all,

 Is anyone running MS products through SRX firewalls? How are you getting
 RPC to work? According to engineering, the ScreenOS ms-rpc-any isn't
 included in JUNOS, although, I do see the ALG catching the info based off of
 endpoint mapper sessions. Add to that the fact that MS changed their port
 range for RPC with Server 2008 has given me some real fun conversations with
 our server team.

 Thanks,
 Glenn


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Re: [j-nsp] JUNOS and MS RPC

2011-04-02 Thread OBrien, Will
Agreed. ALGs seem to always cause headaches. Turn them off and pretend they 
don't exist and you'll be better off.  (Think of them like that crazy guy/girl 
you wanted to date in High School... Same thing really.)

On Apr 2, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Scott T. Cameron wrote:

 I've got two sets of SRX3400 clusters, and the ALGs should come with:
 caveat emptor.
 
 Nice on paper and very similar to Linux conntrack modules, but in reality
 the rule of thumb is it's better to have them disabled.
 
 In the case of Microsoft, their technical papers will say your firewall
 should allow 1024-65535 open.  In my datacenters, the only place where I
 find this to be necessary is to domain controllers.  Most other MS software
 can happily run off a specific TCP port.
 
 YMMV.
 
 Scott
 
 On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Glenn Krutsinger gkrutsin...@compassion.com
 wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 Is anyone running MS products through SRX firewalls? How are you getting
 RPC to work? According to engineering, the ScreenOS ms-rpc-any isn't
 included in JUNOS, although, I do see the ALG catching the info based off of
 endpoint mapper sessions. Add to that the fact that MS changed their port
 range for RPC with Server 2008 has given me some real fun conversations with
 our server team.
 
 Thanks,
 Glenn
 
 
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