Re: [j-nsp] Recommended Releases now posted for MX, M, T, QFX

2012-01-31 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:32:26 AM James Jones wrote:

 I am just curious what issues you guys are having with
 the junos releases?

Run through the archives to get a feel for what issues folk 
are facing. And these are just the issues that folk have 
decided to share.

There are others that aren't shared, or folk that aren't 
sharing entirely.

 I am currently not having issues
 with any of my Juniper kit.

It's really dependent on how kinky you're running your 
boxes. If you look at my route reflectors (M120's), 10.4R4.5 
is solid, no issues. If you look at my PE Aggregation 
routers (MX480's, M320's, T320's), you don't want to know. 
If you look at the MX480 we're trying to make a BRAS, all 
bets are off :-).

 It would be interesting to
 understand the use cases in which you are seeing issues.

The problem is that since Junos 9.4, we've all been thinking 
and hoping that the R4 release of that train (and all the 
ones following it) would be the ideal one. The solid one. 
The one on which we can hang our boots on and kick back.

But alas, that was never to be the case, and given we're now 
literally peeking at Junos 13 (or 14, or 15, whatever they 
decide to do after 12), it's amazing that we're all still 
chasing that ever elusive dream of a stable Junos.

Which, by the way, is not to discount all the good work that 
Juniper have done, particularly since the debacle that was 
Junos 10.2, but given that operators need to choose between:

o Stable code.

o Code that features you actually want.

o Code that will be under Juniper EEOL program.

o Code that will run new hardware.

o Code that will fix all issues past without
  bringing issues present.


... you can see where all the frustration is coming from.

What's worse, Junos 8 was a dream, so we all know what it's 
like to have good code :-).

Mark.


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Re: [j-nsp] Recommended Releases now posted for MX, M, T, QFX

2012-01-31 Thread Paul Stewart
One incredible frustration we're going through lately on the MX boxes is the
BRAS function as Mark mentioned briefly . we're up to bleeding edge
code now (11.4R1.14) just to get what we consider typical features of a BRAS
box.  Combine that with the first BRAS box I've seen that is picky about
Radius VSA's and it makes it really difficult to deploy.  We are not sure if
the word stable enters the equation yet as a BRAS neither - time will tell
as we're pushing out several of these boxes shortly despite concerns around
code.

Paul


-Original Message-
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[mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Mark Tinka
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:05 AM
To: James Jones
Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Recommended Releases now posted for MX, M, T, QFX

On Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:32:26 AM James Jones wrote:

 I am just curious what issues you guys are having with the junos 
 releases?

Run through the archives to get a feel for what issues folk are facing. And
these are just the issues that folk have decided to share.

There are others that aren't shared, or folk that aren't sharing entirely.

 I am currently not having issues
 with any of my Juniper kit.

It's really dependent on how kinky you're running your boxes. If you look at
my route reflectors (M120's), 10.4R4.5 is solid, no issues. If you look at
my PE Aggregation routers (MX480's, M320's, T320's), you don't want to know.

If you look at the MX480 we're trying to make a BRAS, all bets are off :-).

 It would be interesting to
 understand the use cases in which you are seeing issues.

The problem is that since Junos 9.4, we've all been thinking and hoping that
the R4 release of that train (and all the ones following it) would be the
ideal one. The solid one. 
The one on which we can hang our boots on and kick back.

But alas, that was never to be the case, and given we're now literally
peeking at Junos 13 (or 14, or 15, whatever they decide to do after 12),
it's amazing that we're all still chasing that ever elusive dream of a
stable Junos.

Which, by the way, is not to discount all the good work that Juniper have
done, particularly since the debacle that was Junos 10.2, but given that
operators need to choose between:

o Stable code.

o Code that features you actually want.

o Code that will be under Juniper EEOL program.

o Code that will run new hardware.

o Code that will fix all issues past without
  bringing issues present.


... you can see where all the frustration is coming from.

What's worse, Junos 8 was a dream, so we all know what it's like to have
good code :-).

Mark.

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Re: [j-nsp] GRE packet fragmentation on j-series

2012-01-31 Thread nebu thomas
Pls refer the below appnote 
 
http://www.juniper.net/us/en/local/pdf/app-notes/3500192-en.pdf
 
see the section  



From: Ben Dale bd...@comlinx.com.au
To: Lukasz Martyniak lmartyn...@man.szczecin.pl 
Cc: Juniper-Nsp (juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net) juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net 
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:28 AM
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] GRE packet fragmentation on j-series

Hi Lukasz,

J-Series only needs a license to download signature updates for IDP - in order 
to stop fragmentation, all you need to do is create a security policy that 
matches on GRE traffic match application junos-gre and then references the 
idp engine in the action then permit application-services idp.  

This will force the IDP engine to re-assemble the GRE fragments for inspection 
(but not actually inspect them).  

Juniper had a really good document explaining this with examples for MPLSoGRE, 
but my google and KB-fu is failing.

Cheers,

Ben

On 26/01/2012, at 7:17 PM, Lukasz Martyniak wrote:

 Thanks for quick response, i had a hoped that this could be done in other 
 whey. I think jseries need extra license for IDP. 
 
 On Jan 24, 2012, at 11:35 PM, Alex Arseniev wrote:
 
 My understanding is that GRE fragmentation should occur if egress interface 
 MTU is  GRE pkt size.
 For GRE reassembly, you need IDP policy, this means high memory SRX model. 
 IDP license is not needed.
 Rgds
 Alex
 
 - Original Message - From: Lukasz Martyniak 
 lmartyn...@man.szczecin.pl
 To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 2:04 PM
 Subject: [j-nsp] GRE packet fragmentation on j-series
 
 
 Hi all
 
 I have some problem with gre tunnels. I need to fragment packages in 
 tunnel. I run gre between two jseries (junos 10.4R6) and lunch MPLS on it. 
 The problem looks like that packages with MTU above 1476 are not 
 fragmented/reassembled and are dropped.
 
 
 interfaces gr-0/0/0
 unit 10 {
  clear-dont-fragment-bit;
  description Tulne to r1-lab;
  tunnel {
      source 10.200.0.1;
      destination 10.200.0.2;
      allow-fragmentation;
      path-mtu-discovery;
  }
  family inet {
      mtu 1500;
      address 100.100.100.1/30;
  }
  family mpls {
  }
 }
 
 Have someone have similar problem ? is there a simple way to fix this ?
 
 Best Lukasz
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MPLSoGRE with GRE Fragmentation and Reassembly 
 
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Re: [j-nsp] Recommended Releases now posted for MX, M, T, QFX

2012-01-31 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday, January 31, 2012 06:12:02 PM Paul Stewart wrote:

 One incredible frustration we're going through lately on
 the MX boxes is the BRAS function as Mark mentioned
 briefly . we're up to bleeding edge code now
 (11.4R1.14) just to get what we consider typical
 features of a BRAS box.  Combine that with the first
 BRAS box I've seen that is picky about Radius VSA's and
 it makes it really difficult to deploy.  We are not sure
 if the word stable enters the equation yet as a BRAS
 neither - time will tell as we're pushing out several of
 these boxes shortly despite concerns around code.

Ditto.

The MX is nowhere near ready to run as BRAS. But like you, 
we decided to migrate to it, so we have no choice but to run 
bleeding edge Junos 11.4R1 as well, just to get basic things 
the outgoing Redback is able to do, as well as some IPv6.

Mark.


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Re: [j-nsp] Recommended Releases now posted for MX, M, T, QFX - Update!

2012-01-31 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday, January 31, 2012 06:26:44 PM Mark Tinka wrote:

 The MX is nowhere near ready to run as BRAS. But like
 you, we decided to migrate to it, so we have no choice
 but to run bleeding edge Junos 11.4R1 as well, just to
 get basic things the outgoing Redback is able to do, as
 well as some IPv6.

In hindsight, we probably should have gone with Cisco's 
ASR1006.

Oh well...

Mark.


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Re: [j-nsp] Recommended Releases now posted for MX, M, T, QFX - Update!

2012-01-31 Thread Paul Stewart
Yup.. our hindsight would have been to continue deploying E/ERX ;)

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Mark Tinka [mailto:mti...@globaltransit.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:28 AM
To: Paul Stewart
Cc: 'James Jones'; juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Recommended Releases now posted for MX, M, T, QFX -
Update!

On Tuesday, January 31, 2012 06:26:44 PM Mark Tinka wrote:

 The MX is nowhere near ready to run as BRAS. But like you, we decided 
 to migrate to it, so we have no choice but to run bleeding edge Junos 
 11.4R1 as well, just to get basic things the outgoing Redback is able 
 to do, as well as some IPv6.

In hindsight, we probably should have gone with Cisco's ASR1006.

Oh well...

Mark.

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[j-nsp] Filter-based forwarding outside of inet.0?

2012-01-31 Thread Clarke Morledge
I am still trying to wrap my head around FBF, and I am stuck on how to 
achieve a Cisco-like PBR forcing a packet that matches a set of conditions 
to go to a different next-hop inside a VRF.  The problem I have is when 
the new next-hop can only be resolved within the VRF, NOT the default 
routing instance (inet.0).


Let's say I am trying to create this forwarding instance to change the 
default route:


[edit routing-instances fbf-test]
HonkinBigMx# show
instance-type forwarding;
routing-options {
static {
route 0.0.0.0/0 next-hop 192.168.255.1;
}
}

I need to create a rib group where 192.168.255.1 can be resolved 
(correct?).  It can be resolved in a virtual routing instance (a VRF) 
called test.inet.0 where I need to insert via a filter the changed default 
route next-hop for PBR forwarding purposes.  THe 192.168.255.1 can not 
resolve in inet.0 because it does not live there.


If I try to create a rib group:

interface-routes {
rib-group inet fbf-rib-test;
}
rib-groups {
fbf-rib-test {
import-rib [ fbf-test.inet.0 test.inet.0 ];
}
}

The Junos compiler complains:

[edit routing-options interface-routes]
  'rib-group'
fbf-rib-test: primary rib for instance master was not found in 
ribgroup configuration.

error: configuration check-out failed

I try to define the interface-routes at in the test.inet.0 routing 
instance stanza (which is where I think it should be defined anyway), and 
I get a similar complaint.


In reading the docs, they insist that I must import inet.0 into the rib 
group, even though the next-hop can not be found to resolve there. 
Furthermore, I can only define a rib-group in the default routing 
instance part of the config and not in the routing-instance part of the 
config.


What am I missing here and/or how can I workaround this limitation?

Clarke Morledge
College of William and Mary
Information Technology - Network Engineering
Jones Hall (Room 18)
Williamsburg VA 23187
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Re: [j-nsp] packet based on jseries

2012-01-31 Thread Michel de Nostredame
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 2:09 AM, Pierre-Yves Maunier j-...@maunier.org wrote:
 2012/1/23 pkc mls pkc_...@yahoo.fr
 You can activate packet based routing on recent Junos SRX/J-Series devices :
 http://juniper.cluepon.net/Enabling_packet_based_forwarding

but some functions will stop working, such as cflow or IPsec tunnels.

--
Michel~
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