[j-nsp] Juniper MX supports other variants of j-Flow except IPFIX

2012-04-11 Thread Arun Kumar
Hi Juniper NSP,

Would like to know whether Juniper MX series router support other variants
of jflow except IP FIX. Flow collector that i m evaluating does not support
IPFIX v10 (inline-jflow) which MX supports. So just wanted to check what
other variants of jflow that can be supported.

thanks
Arun
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Re: [j-nsp] ex vstp and cisco pvst

2012-04-11 Thread Ing. Jozef Klacko
Hi,

There could be an guide for this:

http://www.google.sk/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=1ved=0CCoQFjAA;
url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.juniper.net%2Fus%2Fen%2Flocal%2Fpdf%2Fimplementation-gu
ides%2F8010002-en.pdfei=ajyFT4aeNcfk4QTu8PXFBwusg=AFQjCNFYjlui3rxm97ebrago
mLGvG8UNWgsig2=NS2-vPa6wlGM5ze6sncdBA

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[mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Misha Gzirishvili
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 1:18 AM
To: Mohammad
Cc: man...@gmail.com; juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] ex vstp and cisco pvst

Hi there, If I remember correctly, vlan1 do not works well between C and J.
due to mac address mismatches in BPDU.
Use edge ports on acess ports to prevent unwanted calculations, Use spanning
tree pathcost method long on cisco to adjust costs. And use rapid pvst on
Cisco.
HTH.

Regards,
Misha
On Apr 10, 2012 9:51 PM, Mohammad masal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All



 We have a layer 2 ring consists of 7 cisco 3750 ME switches terminated 
 on two juniper EX4200 switches (EX-Primary) and (EX-Backup); the 
 backhaul from EX-Primary to our HQ is fiber, while we are using a 
 backup microwave link from EX-Backup to HQ. we have configured vstp on 
 both EX switches and we have increased the link costs on the backup EX 
 in order to block the port on the backup EX so that the traffic goes 
 to primary EX and then through the fiber link to HQ. we have checked 
 the that ports are blocked from the backup EX,,and everything is 
 working as it should be.

 The problem is once we configure vstp on the EX switches we see the 
 cpu utilization reached 100% for a short period of time and then every 
 things goes fine, another thing we've noticed suddenly when there is a 
 topology change in the network the EX malfunction for a short period 
 of time and then gets back to normal operation 

 We are using pvst on the cisco switches.switch port trunk allowed vlan
 11,12,13 , etc. is configured on the cisco trunk port

 Vlan 1 is not configured on the juniper switches.vstp vlan all is 
 configured on the juniper switch

 The question is:

 Shall we configure vlan1 on the juniper switches and put it as a 
 native vlan on the trunk port facing the cisco switches and also on 
 the trunk port connecting the two juniper switches?

 Shall we configure rapid pvst on the cisco switches instead of normal
pvst?

 Any better ideas?



 Thank you in advance.

 Mohammad Salbad







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Re: [j-nsp] Juniper MX supports other variants of j-Flow except IPFIX

2012-04-11 Thread Rafael Rodriguez
Netflow v5 exports off the RE are supported, just make sure you don't over tax 
the RE with the sampling rate.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 11, 2012, at 3:32, Arun Kumar narain.a...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Juniper NSP,
 
 Would like to know whether Juniper MX series router support other variants
 of jflow except IP FIX. Flow collector that i m evaluating does not support
 IPFIX v10 (inline-jflow) which MX supports. So just wanted to check what
 other variants of jflow that can be supported.
 
 thanks
 Arun
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Re: [j-nsp] Layer 2 feature on srx

2012-04-11 Thread Pavel Lunin

10.04.2012 20:13, Michael Still wrote:
 OP wanted to use the IRB ints as next hop for their respective
 networks. This is apparently not supported on the SRX platform in
 transparent mode: 
Yeah, I mentioned this as well. In my post I just wanted to explain why
these (MX-style L2) commands were successfully committed by SRX (which
is really not obvious and I even think, someone who decided to reuse
this part config for this purpose on SRX needed to think twice or at
least document it more clearly. This is not the first time I see such a
confusion).
 In this release, the IRB interface on the SRX Series device does not
 support traffic forwarding or routing. In transparent mode, packets
 arriving on a Layer 2 interface that are destined for the device’s MAC
 address are classified as Layer 3 traffic while packets that are not
 destined for the device’s MAC address are classified as Layer 2
 traffic. Packets destined for the device’s MAC address are sent to the
 IRB interface. Packets from the device’s routing engine are sent out
 the IRB interface. So in transparent / IRB mode the IRB int can only
 be used as a management interface. OP needs to do is MX testing using
 an MX device.
IICR, by now they can't even terminate IPSec on IRB. An interesting
question here is whether they are going to make IRBs to be real L3
ifaces. What a mess it would be :)
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Re: [j-nsp] Juniper MX supports other variants of j-Flow except IPFIX

2012-04-11 Thread OBrien, Will
v5 certainly.
Keep in mind that sampling depends on your hardware configuration (MS-DPC, etc)
On Apr 11, 2012, at 2:32 AM, Arun Kumar wrote:

 Hi Juniper NSP,
 
 Would like to know whether Juniper MX series router support other variants
 of jflow except IP FIX. Flow collector that i m evaluating does not support
 IPFIX v10 (inline-jflow) which MX supports. So just wanted to check what
 other variants of jflow that can be supported.
 
 thanks
 Arun
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[j-nsp] Woot. Updated MX software recommendation

2012-04-11 Thread OBrien, Will
I got on TAC about the fact that they were recommending 10.4 code for the MX 
when it doesn't support the Enhanced SCB at all.
I don't know if it was my case or just enough people giving them a hard time, 
but they notified me that they've updated KB21476.

There is now an entry for the MX series and the MX series with the Enhanced 
SCB. (11.2R5.4 at this time.)

Will
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Re: [j-nsp] Woot. Updated MX software recommendation

2012-04-11 Thread Alexandre Snarskii
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 02:05:52PM +, OBrien, Will wrote:
 I got on TAC about the fact that they were recommending 10.4 code 
 for the MX when it doesn't support the Enhanced SCB at all.
 I don't know if it was my case or just enough people giving them a 
 hard time, but they notified me that they've updated KB21476.
 
 There is now an entry for the MX series and the MX series with the 
 Enhanced SCB. (11.2R5.4 at this time.)

11.4R2.14 this article says to me :) 

PS: to whom it may concern: SNMP counters in 11.4R2 broken even worse 
than in 11.4R1. Looks like the same PR/731833, 
http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/juniper-nsp/2012-February/022369.html

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Re: [j-nsp] Woot. Updated MX software recommendation

2012-04-11 Thread Chris Morrow


On 04/11/2012 12:09 PM, Alexandre Snarskii wrote:

 PS: to whom it may concern: SNMP counters in 11.4R2 broken even worse 
 than in 11.4R1. Looks like the same PR/731833, 
 http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/juniper-nsp/2012-February/022369.html

counting is hard... let's go shopping?? wtf?
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Re: [j-nsp] Juniper MX supports other variants of j-Flow except IPFIX

2012-04-11 Thread Alex Arseniev

v5: either RE-based or Service PIC|MSDPC-based
v8: either RE-based or Service PIC|MSDPC-based
v9: only Service PIC|MSDPC-based.
I repeat: v9 is _only_ Service PIC|MSDPC-based. No chance of v9 flow 
sampling/exporting on Routing Engine.

HTH
Rgds
Alex

- Original Message - 
From: Arun Kumar narain.a...@gmail.com

To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 8:32 AM
Subject: [j-nsp] Juniper MX supports other variants of j-Flow except IPFIX



Hi Juniper NSP,

Would like to know whether Juniper MX series router support other variants
of jflow except IP FIX. Flow collector that i m evaluating does not 
support

IPFIX v10 (inline-jflow) which MX supports. So just wanted to check what
other variants of jflow that can be supported.

thanks
Arun
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[j-nsp] RE : Woot. Updated MX software recommendation

2012-04-11 Thread david.roy
Hi all,

I do not encounter SNMP issue anymore since the upgrade in 11.4R2.14. Same test 
like in 11.4R1 

Strange ?

Best regards
David
 

De : juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] 
de la part de Alexandre Snarskii [s...@snar.spb.ru]
Date d'envoi : mercredi 11 avril 2012 18:09
À : OBrien, Will
Cc : juniper-nsp
Objet : Re: [j-nsp] Woot. Updated MX software recommendation

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 02:05:52PM +, OBrien, Will wrote:
 I got on TAC about the fact that they were recommending 10.4 code
 for the MX when it doesn't support the Enhanced SCB at all.
 I don't know if it was my case or just enough people giving them a
 hard time, but they notified me that they've updated KB21476.

 There is now an entry for the MX series and the MX series with the
 Enhanced SCB. (11.2R5.4 at this time.)

11.4R2.14 this article says to me :)

PS: to whom it may concern: SNMP counters in 11.4R2 broken even worse
than in 11.4R1. Looks like the same PR/731833,
http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/juniper-nsp/2012-February/022369.html

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Re: [j-nsp] Woot. Updated MX software recommendation

2012-04-11 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 01:19:01PM -0400, Chris Morrow wrote:
 
 counting is hard... let's go shopping?? wtf?

Yeah, it's not like we need to bill customers with these routers or 
anything. :)

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Re: [j-nsp] Woot. Updated MX software recommendation

2012-04-11 Thread Chris Morrow
That's what net flow is for! Wait... doh!

Richard A Steenbergen r...@e-gerbil.net wrote:

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 01:19:01PM -0400, Chris Morrow wrote:
 
 counting is hard... let's go shopping?? wtf?

Yeah, it's not like we need to bill customers with these routers or 
anything. :)

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Re: [j-nsp] Packet mode mpls (was Layer 2 feature on srx)

2012-04-11 Thread ashish verma
Here is some explanation.

Branch SrX Series Services Gateways process packets using flow-based
forwarding by default. For the next several releases, the flow module will
support only IP traffic. When MPLS is configured, there is no way of
knowing if an IP packet entering the services gateway will require MPLS
encapsulation until the packet is processed, so enabling MPLS can be used
to force an SrX Series or J Series device to forward all IPv4 traffic in
packet mode.

security {

}

forwarding-options {
   family {

mpls {

  mode packet-based;
   }

} }

On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Pavel Lunin plu...@senetsy.ru wrote:

 Phil Mayers wrote:

 On 04/10/2012 06:17 AM, Doug Hanks wrote:
 
  In the context of packet-mode, the family mpls is analogous to inet.
  This
  is correct.
 
 
  Not sure I understand this.
 
  analogous implies what, here? That enabling packet-mode for MPLS
  implicitly enables it for IPv4?
 

 Yep. Same for ISO.


 
  If that's the case, why is there also a family inet option?
 

 Looks like first they meant to have different options for different
 families allowing to simultaneously have some in flow and some in packet
 mode. But it's already about… 4 years passed, I think, and it's still this
 way. Any family turned into packet mode turns the whole box. Sort of the
 same stuff as 'say per-packet mean per-flow' LB.

 There might be a difference for inet6 (I am not sure) since some version,
 in which the stateful processing for IPv6 was added. I just remember I
 needed to explicitly set the packet mode for it playing around something
 implied IPv6, otherwise it didn't work (or rather worked in flow-mode but I
 had no zones/policies). Must repeat, I'm not sure.
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Re: [j-nsp] Packet mode mpls (was Layer 2 feature on srx)

2012-04-11 Thread Amol Desai
Hello , 

I would like to change the mail address to amolmde...@rediffmail.com , Please 
confirm how I can change it

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[mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of ashish verma
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:27 AM
To: Pavel Lunin
Cc: juniper-nsp
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Packet mode mpls (was Layer 2 feature on srx)

Here is some explanation.

Branch SrX Series Services Gateways process packets using flow-based forwarding 
by default. For the next several releases, the flow module will support only IP 
traffic. When MPLS is configured, there is no way of knowing if an IP packet 
entering the services gateway will require MPLS encapsulation until the packet 
is processed, so enabling MPLS can be used to force an SrX Series or J Series 
device to forward all IPv4 traffic in packet mode.

security {

}

forwarding-options {
   family {

mpls {

  mode packet-based;
   }

} }

On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Pavel Lunin plu...@senetsy.ru wrote:

 Phil Mayers wrote:

 On 04/10/2012 06:17 AM, Doug Hanks wrote:
 
  In the context of packet-mode, the family mpls is analogous to inet.
  This
  is correct.
 
 
  Not sure I understand this.
 
  analogous implies what, here? That enabling packet-mode for MPLS 
  implicitly enables it for IPv4?
 

 Yep. Same for ISO.


 
  If that's the case, why is there also a family inet option?
 

 Looks like first they meant to have different options for different 
 families allowing to simultaneously have some in flow and some in 
 packet mode. But it's already about... 4 years passed, I think, and it's 
 still this way. Any family turned into packet mode turns the whole 
 box. Sort of the same stuff as 'say per-packet mean per-flow' LB.

 There might be a difference for inet6 (I am not sure) since some 
 version, in which the stateful processing for IPv6 was added. I just 
 remember I needed to explicitly set the packet mode for it playing 
 around something implied IPv6, otherwise it didn't work (or rather 
 worked in flow-mode but I had no zones/policies). Must repeat, I'm not sure.
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