Re: [j-nsp] EX2200 OSPF question

2013-05-23 Thread Mark Tinka
On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 11:17:29 PM Paul Stewart wrote:

 You have to buy the extended feature license on the
 EX2200 to run OSPF. We have a bunch of EX2200-C deployed
 that have OSPF routes on them and they work fine - to
 qualify that though, there is very little traffic
 through them at layer3 - cant' see them handling much
 layer3 traffic. That deployment is mainly layer2
 oriented.

It's a shame that Juniper make you pay for an IS-IS license 
to run it on the lower-/mid-end EX platforms, yet all an 
operator might want that for is management access.

Maybe some bright soul at Juniper will come up with yet-
another-license where we can run IS-IS in management access 
mode.

Granted, all you'll get today, if you turn it on, is 
complaints about it not having a license, but Juniper are 
now seriously threatening software enforcement in upcoming 
code.

Mark.



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Re: [j-nsp] ISSU timeouts on MX upgrades due to large routing tables?

2013-05-23 Thread Mike Azevedo
I have an MX960, full routes, performed issu. Did not have a timeout problem. 

However, like Ras eluded to, other issues...Once the backup routing-engine 
upgrades and takes primary RE position, the used-to-be primary upgrades itself. 
You would think everything is fine with a new primary RE but the chassis goes 
into alarm still saying the backup is active like it switched for a failure 
event. JTAC says I have to switch it back to the old primary to get the alarm 
to clear. Why can't I run the 'new' primary for a while? 

- Original Message -

From: Richard A Steenbergen r...@e-gerbil.net 
To: Clarke Morledge chm...@wm.edu 
Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net 
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 5:44:03 PM 
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] ISSU timeouts on MX upgrades due to large routing tables? 

On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 09:01:57PM -0400, Clarke Morledge wrote: 
 I was curious to know if anyone has run into any issues with large 
 routing tables on an MX causing ISSU upgrades to fail? 
 
 On several occasions, I have been able to successfully do an 
 In-Software-Service-Upgrade (ISSU) in a lab environment but then it 
 fails to work in production. 
 
 I find it difficult to replicate the issue in a lab, since in 
 production I am dealing with lots of routes as compared to a small 
 lab. Does anyone have any experience when the backup RE gets its new 
 software, then reboots, but since it takes a long time to populate the 
 routing kernel database on the newly upgraded RE that it appears to 
 timeout? 
 
 I have seen behavior like this with upgrades moving from 10.x to a 
 newer 10.y and from 10.x to 11.y. 

We had that issue for many years. There is a hard-coded timeout in the 
NSR process which is very easy to hit if you have a box with a large 
number of routes. 

We had a case open on it for about 1.5 years, but Juniper refused to 
actually fix it (it works fine in the lab), and eventually we just 
gave us and declared ISSU to be dead. There are way too many other bugs 
with it anyways, even turning on NSR caused nothing but problems. 

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Re: [j-nsp] experience using 10G DAC (twinax) cables between EX and multi-vendor

2013-05-23 Thread Sebastian Wiesinger
* Andy Litzinger andy.litzin...@theplatform.com [2013-05-15 21:00]:
 Has anyone used a 10G DAC/Twinax cable between an EX4550 and other vendor 
 gear?  Did you use Juniper DAC cables or the other vendor cables?
 
 In particular I'm planning on linking a Cisco UCS Fabric Interconnect and 
 also an F5 BigIP 4200v to a VC of EX4550s.
 
 would you recommend it or should I fork over the money to use optics?

Hi,

we use DAC between EX4500 and Intel servers without problem. We use
Flexoptics cables where both ends of the cable can be flashed to
diferent vendors.

Regards

Sebastian

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Re: [j-nsp] ISSU timeouts on MX upgrades due to large routing tables?

2013-05-23 Thread Byron Hicks
On 05/23/2013 09:25 AM, Mike Azevedo wrote:
 I have an MX960, full routes, performed issu. Did not have a timeout
 problem.
 
 However, like Ras eluded to, other issues...Once the backup
 routing-engine upgrades and takes primary RE position, the used-to-be
 primary upgrades itself. You would think everything is fine with a
 new primary RE but the chassis goes into alarm still saying the
 backup is active like it switched for a failure event. JTAC says I
 have to switch it back to the old primary to get the alarm to clear.
 Why can't I run the 'new' primary for a while?

You can.  Just switch the master/backup relationship in the
configuration, and the alarm clears.

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[j-nsp] MX connectivity between Routing Instances

2013-05-23 Thread OBrien, Will
I'm working on a routing design that uses multiple routing instances to allow 
traffic shaping based on destination, CG Nat based on destination and a set of 
traffic filters.
Those three things don't tend to play very nicely together on the same 
interface since they're all require various firewall filters and even service 
filters.

Has anyone built any interesting routing instance configurations to accomplish 
this? Previously I was going to have a physical loop that ran through an IPS, 
which gave me an extra pair of physical interfaces to work with.
I've migrated that service elsewhere, so now I need to research how much I can 
do on logical tunnel interfaces.

Thoughts?
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Re: [j-nsp] How useful is Juniper storm control?

2013-05-23 Thread JP Velders

 Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 14:29:35 +
 From: James S. Smith jsm...@windmobile.ca
 Subject: [j-nsp] How useful is Juniper storm control?

 I'm looking for people's experience with storm control on Juniper 
 switches.  We have a pair of EX4500 switches and I notice that storm 
 control kicks in a lot.  I'm concerned that it might be stopping 
 legitimate broadcast and multicast traffic.

Depends on what you consider legitimate, both quality and quantity 
wise. MS Windows NLB (Network Load Balancing) floods stuff, so I have 
~250Mbps minimum of flooded traffic on that VLAN... We disabled storm 
control on the ports in that specific VLAN, and yes, we really will do 
normal loadbalancing if I can get the Exchange admins to budge...

 Do most people have storm control enabled or disabled?

Enabled, it can prevent other bad stuff, like looped traffic, not per 
se a loop on the specific switch. Plus, it's a switch, not a hub. :)

Kind regards,
JP Velders

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Re: [j-nsp] How useful is Juniper storm control?

2013-05-23 Thread JP Velders

 Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 14:29:35 +
 From: James S. Smith jsm...@windmobile.ca
 Subject: [j-nsp] How useful is Juniper storm control?

 I'm looking for people's experience with storm control on Juniper 
 switches.  We have a pair of EX4500 switches and I notice that storm 
 control kicks in a lot.  I'm concerned that it might be stopping 
 legitimate broadcast and multicast traffic.

Depends on what you consider legitimate, both quality and quantity 
wise. MS Windows NLB (Network Load Balancing) floods stuff, so I have 
~250Mbps minimum of flooded traffic on that VLAN... We disabled storm 
control on the ports in that specific VLAN, and yes, we really will do 
normal loadbalancing if I can get the Exchange admins to budge...

 Do most people have storm control enabled or disabled?

Enabled, it can prevent other bad stuff, like looped traffic, not per 
se a loop on the specific switch. Plus, it's a switch, not a hub. :)

Kind regards,
JP Velders

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