[j-nsp] Refurbished

2014-10-20 Thread Johan Borch
Hi!

I'm thinking of bying refurshed mx-routers, the bandwidth will be around
5-10Gbps and able to cary 3-4 full tables.

is the following good RE/linecards?
RE-S-2000-4096
DPC-R-4XGE-XFP
DPC-R-40GE-SFP

is for example RE-S-2000-4096 still upgradable with recent Junos software?

Regards
Johan
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Re: [j-nsp] Refurbished

2014-10-20 Thread Jerry Jones
Should be able to handle the tables ok. The RE will not support 64 bit though. 
When 32 disappears is when you will have issues.

As long as DPC are the only line cards should work well. I am reluctant to mix 
with MPC in a single chassis.

On Oct 20, 2014, at 7:31 AM, Johan Borch johan.bo...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi!

I'm thinking of bying refurshed mx-routers, the bandwidth will be around
5-10Gbps and able to cary 3-4 full tables.

is the following good RE/linecards?
RE-S-2000-4096
DPC-R-4XGE-XFP
DPC-R-40GE-SFP

is for example RE-S-2000-4096 still upgradable with recent Junos software?

Regards
Johan
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[j-nsp] Spanning tree RJ45 SFP on QFX5100

2014-10-20 Thread Richard Hartmann
Dear all,

we are not done debugging yet, but as of right now, we are having a
rather strange effect...


Our setup looks as follows:

QFX5100 = CStest
sw1 = 2960g
sw2 = 2960g
sw3 = EX3300
sw4 = 2960g
sw5 = 2960S

CStest RJ45 1G sw1
CStest SM 1G sw2
CStest SM 10G sw3
CStest RJ45 1G sw4
CStest SM 1G sw5

The effect we're seeing is that Spanning Tree works just fine over the
Single Mode links, but not across the RJ45 SFPs.

Weirdly enough, LLDP and the like are being transmitted just fine.

Yes, we tried all available JunOS releases, even a few beta images.
Yes, we also tried 14.1X53-D10.

I am kinda stumped as to how this is even possible. While we all hate
RF45 SFP for various reasons, this is totally new and unexpected.


Yes, we're still having fun,
Richard
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Re: [j-nsp] Refurbished

2014-10-20 Thread Mark Tinka
On Monday, October 20, 2014 03:36:53 PM Jerry Jones wrote:

 As long as DPC are the only line cards should work well.
 I am reluctant to mix with MPC in a single chassis.

This should, apparently, be fixed in later code.

You certainly never wanted that in Junos 10 :-).

Then again, many new features are currently being built for 
Trio-only situations. It'd be interesting to see what 
happens if those features had to cross Trio and DPC on the 
same chassis.

Mark.


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Re: [j-nsp] Spanning tree RJ45 SFP on QFX5100

2014-10-20 Thread Darren O'Connor
Which version of spanning tree? I've got MST running on SFP-Ts running without 
issue

 From: richih.mailingl...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 16:41:02 +0200
 To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [j-nsp] Spanning tree RJ45 SFP on QFX5100
 
 Dear all,
 
 we are not done debugging yet, but as of right now, we are having a
 rather strange effect...
 
 
 Our setup looks as follows:
 
 QFX5100 = CStest
 sw1 = 2960g
 sw2 = 2960g
 sw3 = EX3300
 sw4 = 2960g
 sw5 = 2960S
 
 CStest RJ45 1G sw1
 CStest SM 1G sw2
 CStest SM 10G sw3
 CStest RJ45 1G sw4
 CStest SM 1G sw5
 
 The effect we're seeing is that Spanning Tree works just fine over the
 Single Mode links, but not across the RJ45 SFPs.
 
 Weirdly enough, LLDP and the like are being transmitted just fine.
 
 Yes, we tried all available JunOS releases, even a few beta images.
 Yes, we also tried 14.1X53-D10.
 
 I am kinda stumped as to how this is even possible. While we all hate
 RF45 SFP for various reasons, this is totally new and unexpected.
 
 
 Yes, we're still having fun,
 Richard
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Re: [j-nsp] Refurbished

2014-10-20 Thread Eric Van Tol
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Mark Tinka mark.ti...@seacom.mu wrote:

 On Monday, October 20, 2014 03:36:53 PM Jerry Jones wrote:

  As long as DPC are the only line cards should work well.
  I am reluctant to mix with MPC in a single chassis.

 This should, apparently, be fixed in later code.

We run both MPC and DPC on multiple MX960s in our network without
issue.  We are currently on 12.3R6.6 and had run previously on 11.4R7
no problem.  That said, if I had my choice and unlimited budget, the
DPCs would be tossed in favor of the MPC modules.

-evt
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Re: [j-nsp] Spanning tree RJ45 SFP on QFX5100

2014-10-20 Thread Michael Loftis
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Richard Hartmann
richih.mailingl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all,

 we are not done debugging yet, but as of right now, we are having a
 rather strange effect...


 Our setup looks as follows:

 QFX5100 = CStest
 sw1 = 2960g
 sw2 = 2960g
 sw3 = EX3300
 sw4 = 2960g
 sw5 = 2960S

 CStest RJ45 1G sw1
 CStest SM 1G sw2
 CStest SM 10G sw3
 CStest RJ45 1G sw4
 CStest SM 1G sw5

 The effect we're seeing is that Spanning Tree works just fine over the
 Single Mode links, but not across the RJ45 SFPs.

 Weirdly enough, LLDP and the like are being transmitted just fine.

 Yes, we tried all available JunOS releases, even a few beta images.
 Yes, we also tried 14.1X53-D10.

 I am kinda stumped as to how this is even possible. While we all hate
 RF45 SFP for various reasons, this is totally new and unexpected.


Might be interesting to know whose RJ45 SFP's?  If third party I'd
personally really tend to suspect/blame the third party...might be a
coding issue, might be the onboard hardware doing something silly.
I'd try a different vendor SFP.  It might be something Juniper is
making worse and is still willing to fix even if it's not necessarily
their problem - like there've been various i2c reading issues they've
dramatically improved behavior for.


 Yes, we're still having fun,
 Richard
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[j-nsp] unsubscrive

2014-10-20 Thread Christian Malo

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Re: [j-nsp] Refurbished

2014-10-20 Thread Mark Tinka
On Monday, October 20, 2014 07:18:49 PM Eric Van Tol wrote:

 We run both MPC and DPC on multiple MX960s in our network
 without issue.  We are currently on 12.3R6.6 and had run
 previously on 11.4R7 no problem.  That said, if I had my
 choice and unlimited budget, the DPCs would be tossed in
 favor of the MPC modules.

Agree - all the cool features are being coded only for Trio 
anyway.

Mark.


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