Re: [j-nsp] Juniper PTX1000

[Colton Conor]

Aaron,

About 28k including hardware, license, and 12 months of support. Not bad
for as many ports as it has, and full BGP.

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Jesper Skriver  wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 02:45:14PM -0600, Aaron wrote:
> > Ah, thanks Jesper... you know how much those 7280's cost ? (just
> ballpark)
>
> No idea, sorry.
>
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Re: [j-nsp] Juniper PTX1000

[Jesper Skriver]

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 02:45:14PM -0600, Aaron wrote:
> Ah, thanks Jesper... you know how much those 7280's cost ? (just ballpark)

No idea, sorry.

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Re: [j-nsp] Juniper PTX1000

[Aaron]

Ok thanks, I’m learning a lot today J

 

From: Tim Jackson [mailto:jackson@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 2:52 PM
To: Aaron 
Cc: Jesper Skriver ; Jared Mauch ; 
jnsp ; Tim Durack 
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Juniper PTX1000

 

https://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos16.1/topics/concept/mpls-features-qfx-series-overview.html#mpls-features-by-release

 

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Aaron  > wrote:

Thanks Tim(s), I understand the QFX1 isn’t mpls capable.

 

Also, I’m thinking the cisco ncs5501 might work for me at (6) 100’s.  also, 
wow, ncs5502 has (48) 100 gig.  

 

-Aaron

 

 

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Re: [j-nsp] Juniper PTX1000

[Michael Still]

I agree that the PTX1K is too expensive as well. The QFX10K is a viable
alternative. It's basically the same hardware just different (less) RAM and
no MEF certification (PTX1K is certified). PTX1K has higher scale MPLS like
number of LSPs and what not. Ask your SE to do a side by side on them to
see how it may affect your decision making.



On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Tim Jackson  wrote:

> https://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos16.1/
> topics/concept/mpls-features-qfx-series-overview.html#mpls-
> features-by-release
>
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Aaron  wrote:
>
> > Thanks Tim(s), I understand the QFX1 isn’t mpls capable.
> >
> >
> >
> > Also, I’m thinking the cisco ncs5501 might work for me at (6) 100’s.
> > also, wow, ncs5502 has (48) 100 gig.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Aaron
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [j-nsp] Juniper PTX1000

[Tim Jackson]

https://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos16.1/topics/concept/mpls-features-qfx-series-overview.html#mpls-features-by-release

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Aaron  wrote:

> Thanks Tim(s), I understand the QFX1 isn’t mpls capable.
>
>
>
> Also, I’m thinking the cisco ncs5501 might work for me at (6) 100’s.
> also, wow, ncs5502 has (48) 100 gig.
>
>
>
> -Aaron
>
>
>
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Re: [j-nsp] Juniper PTX1000

[Aaron]

Thanks Tim(s), I understand the QFX1 isn’t mpls capable.

 

Also, I’m thinking the cisco ncs5501 might work for me at (6) 100’s.  also, 
wow, ncs5502 has (48) 100 gig.  

 

-Aaron

 

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Re: [j-nsp] Juniper PTX1000

[Aaron]

Ah, thanks Jesper... you know how much those 7280's cost ? (just ballpark)

- Aaron

-Original Message-
From: Jesper Skriver [mailto:jes...@skriver.dk] 
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 2:30 PM
To: Aaron 
Cc: 'Jared Mauch' ; 'Tim Jackson'
; 'jnsp' 
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Juniper PTX1000

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 02:21:22PM -0600, Aaron wrote:
> I was thinking about the ptx1000 as a supercore fast mpls swapping p-box.
I understand it can have (24) 100 gig !
> 
> I've seen the PTX1000 referred to as a supercore router , and I understand
it has MPLS LSR functions (someone told me that it does not do mpls edge
(pe) functions)
> 
> ...i see/hear no mention of mpls for this 7280...
> https://www.arista.com/en/products/7280r-series
> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/nanog/users/188708

https://www.arista.com/en/support/product-documentation/supported-features

click MPLS tab

> ...i have heard of the NCS5500 but I think it only has (4) 100 gig and we
are wanting 6 or more.  Does cisco have a small form factor mpls router with
lots of 100 gig ?
> 
> - Aaron

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Re: [j-nsp] Juniper PTX1000

[Tim Jackson]

Arista does not have RSVP-TE, nor fully featured BGP-LU..

FlexRoute for full fib usage seems a little like black magic & hand waving
though:
https://www.arista.com/assets/data/pdf/Whitepapers/FlexRoute-WP.pdf


The other cheaper option to the PTX1000 is QFX1 when you don't need a
full FIB.

--
Tim



On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Jesper Skriver  wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 02:21:22PM -0600, Aaron wrote:
> > I was thinking about the ptx1000 as a supercore fast mpls swapping
> p-box.  I understand it can have (24) 100 gig !
> >
> > I've seen the PTX1000 referred to as a supercore router , and I
> understand it has MPLS LSR functions (someone told me that it does not do
> mpls edge (pe) functions)
> >
> > ...i see/hear no mention of mpls for this 7280...
> > https://www.arista.com/en/products/7280r-series
> > http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/nanog/users/188708
>
> https://www.arista.com/en/support/product-documentation/supported-features
>
> click MPLS tab
>
> > ...i have heard of the NCS5500 but I think it only has (4) 100 gig and
> we are wanting 6 or more.  Does cisco have a small form factor mpls router
> with lots of 100 gig ?
> >
> > - Aaron
>
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Re: [j-nsp] Juniper PTX1000

[Jesper Skriver]

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 02:21:22PM -0600, Aaron wrote:
> I was thinking about the ptx1000 as a supercore fast mpls swapping p-box.  I 
> understand it can have (24) 100 gig !
> 
> I've seen the PTX1000 referred to as a supercore router , and I understand it 
> has MPLS LSR functions (someone told me that it does not do mpls edge (pe) 
> functions)
> 
> ...i see/hear no mention of mpls for this 7280...
> https://www.arista.com/en/products/7280r-series
> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/nanog/users/188708

https://www.arista.com/en/support/product-documentation/supported-features

click MPLS tab

> ...i have heard of the NCS5500 but I think it only has (4) 100 gig and we are 
> wanting 6 or more.  Does cisco have a small form factor mpls router with lots 
> of 100 gig ?
> 
> - Aaron
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Re: [j-nsp] Juniper PTX1000

[Tim Durack]

NCS-5501 non-SE version is 48x 10G + 6x 100G
NCS-5502 is 48x 100G


On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 3:21 PM Aaron  wrote:

> I was thinking about the ptx1000 as a supercore fast mpls swapping p-box.
> I understand it can have (24) 100 gig !
>
> I've seen the PTX1000 referred to as a supercore router , and I understand
> it has MPLS LSR functions (someone told me that it does not do mpls edge
> (pe) functions)
>
> ...i see/hear no mention of mpls for this 7280...
> https://www.arista.com/en/products/7280r-series
> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/nanog/users/188708
>
> ...i have heard of the NCS5500 but I think it only has (4) 100 gig and we
> are wanting 6 or more.  Does cisco have a small form factor mpls router
> with lots of 100 gig ?
>
> - Aaron
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jared Mauch [mailto:ja...@puck.nether.net]
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 1:12 PM
> To: Tim Jackson 
> Cc: Aaron ; jnsp 
> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Juniper PTX1000
>
> There’s 3 main boxes in this space, the Cisco NCS550x, PTX1K and the
> Arista 7280 all with varying positives/negatives based on your use case.
>
> I’m not aware of many other full fib scale devices in this profile, if I’m
> missing some I’d like to know :-)
>
> - Jared
>
> > On Dec 16, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Tim Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > It costs wy too much is what I think about it..
> >
> > --
> > Tim
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Aaron  wrote:
> >
> >> Anyone using the PTX1000 ?  If so, let me know what you think about it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> - Aaron
> >>
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Re: [j-nsp] Juniper PTX1000

[Aaron]

I was thinking about the ptx1000 as a supercore fast mpls swapping p-box.  I 
understand it can have (24) 100 gig !

I've seen the PTX1000 referred to as a supercore router , and I understand it 
has MPLS LSR functions (someone told me that it does not do mpls edge (pe) 
functions)

...i see/hear no mention of mpls for this 7280...
https://www.arista.com/en/products/7280r-series
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/nanog/users/188708

...i have heard of the NCS5500 but I think it only has (4) 100 gig and we are 
wanting 6 or more.  Does cisco have a small form factor mpls router with lots 
of 100 gig ?

- Aaron

-Original Message-
From: Jared Mauch [mailto:ja...@puck.nether.net] 
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 1:12 PM
To: Tim Jackson 
Cc: Aaron ; jnsp 
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Juniper PTX1000

There’s 3 main boxes in this space, the Cisco NCS550x, PTX1K and the Arista 
7280 all with varying positives/negatives based on your use case.

I’m not aware of many other full fib scale devices in this profile, if I’m 
missing some I’d like to know :-)

- Jared

> On Dec 16, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Tim Jackson  wrote:
> 
> It costs wy too much is what I think about it..
> 
> --
> Tim
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Aaron  wrote:
> 
>> Anyone using the PTX1000 ?  If so, let me know what you think about it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Aaron
>> 
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Re: [j-nsp] Juniper PTX1000

[Aaron]

How much ?

 

- Aaron

 

From: Tim Jackson [mailto:jackson@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 1:09 PM
To: Aaron 
Cc: jnsp 
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Juniper PTX1000

 

It costs wy too much is what I think about it..

 

--

Tim

 

 

 

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Aaron  > wrote:

Anyone using the PTX1000 ?  If so, let me know what you think about it.



- Aaron

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Re: [j-nsp] Juniper PTX1000

[Jared Mauch]

There’s 3 main boxes in this space, the Cisco NCS550x, PTX1K and the Arista 
7280 all with varying positives/negatives based on your use case.

I’m not aware of many other full fib scale devices in this profile, if I’m 
missing some I’d like to know :-)

- Jared

> On Dec 16, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Tim Jackson  wrote:
> 
> It costs wy too much is what I think about it..
> 
> --
> Tim
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Aaron  wrote:
> 
>> Anyone using the PTX1000 ?  If so, let me know what you think about it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Aaron
>> 
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Re: [j-nsp] Juniper PTX1000

[Tim Jackson]

It costs wy too much is what I think about it..

--
Tim



On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Aaron  wrote:

> Anyone using the PTX1000 ?  If so, let me know what you think about it.
>
>
>
> - Aaron
>
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[j-nsp] Juniper PTX1000

[Aaron]

Anyone using the PTX1000 ?  If so, let me know what you think about it.

 

- Aaron

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Re: [j-nsp] JUNOS bug for QinQ VLANs

[Chuck Anderson]

I recommend 12.3R12-S3.1 for EX2200/3200/4200/4500.  I has many bug
fixes over 12.3R12.4:

https://kb.juniper.net/InfoCenter/index?page=content=TSB16975=SUBSCRIPTION

However I see that JTAC is now recommending 15.1R5:

https://kb.juniper.net/InfoCenter/index?page=content=KB21476=search

I haven't tried it yet--hopefully it has all the fixes that went into
the 12.3 service releases...

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 10:21:06AM -0500, Dovid Bender wrote:
> The Juniper site was a bit confusing and I thought the latest was 12.3R as
> well till I was told otherwise on IRC (that US Domestic is being done away
> with).
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Laurent CARON 
> wrote:
> 
> > On 15/12/2016 16:15, Valentini, Lucio wrote:
> >
> >> it seems there is a bug in the latest version of JUNOS for the EX4200:
> >> JUNOS Base OS boot [12.3R12.4]
> >>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Latest release is:
> >
> > JUNOS EX  Software Suite [15.1R5.5]
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Re: [j-nsp] JUNOS bug for QinQ VLANs

[Dovid Bender]

The Juniper site was a bit confusing and I thought the latest was 12.3R as
well till I was told otherwise on IRC (that US Domestic is being done away
with).



On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Laurent CARON 
wrote:

> On 15/12/2016 16:15, Valentini, Lucio wrote:
>
>> it seems there is a bug in the latest version of JUNOS for the EX4200:
>> JUNOS Base OS boot [12.3R12.4]
>>
>
> Hi,
>
> Latest release is:
>
> JUNOS EX  Software Suite [15.1R5.5]
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Re: [j-nsp] JUNOS bug for QinQ VLANs

[Laurent CARON]

On 15/12/2016 16:15, Valentini, Lucio wrote:

it seems there is a bug in the latest version of JUNOS for the EX4200:
JUNOS Base OS boot [12.3R12.4]


Hi,

Latest release is:

JUNOS EX  Software Suite [15.1R5.5]

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