[j-nsp] BPDUs over EVPN?

2019-10-17 Thread Rob Foehl
Seeing something "interesting" after an 18.1R3 to 18.4R1 upgrade on some 
EVPN PEs: the 18.4 boxes are now emitting BPDUs toward the CE interfaces 
containing pre-translation VLAN IDs from the CEs attached to remote PEs, 
which as far as I can tell are originating from the remote CE.


Is EVPN expected to be forwarding BPDUs at all, intact or otherwise?

If yes, is that dependent on how it's configured?  In this case, it's 
VLAN-aware virtual switch instances everywhere, rewriting tags for 
multiple VLANs.  Does PBB change things?  We hit another bug where 18.1 
was convinced these are PBB configs, when they're not...


Given the discrepancy between releases, which one is wrong?  I'm two weeks 
into a TAC case that's been passed around several times and still have no 
answers to any of these questions, would appreciate hearing from anyone 
who actually knows.  Thanks!


-Rob




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Re: [j-nsp] JunOS on EX4550?

2019-10-17 Thread Aaron Gould
On my EX4550, I recall going from 12 to 15 to get some mpls function.  But I 
also recall having issues with mpls services and then later removing those mpls 
services.

-Aaron

-Original Message-
From: Richard McGovern [mailto:rmcgov...@juniper.net] 
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 5:27 AM
To: Josh Baird
Cc: Juniper List
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] JunOS on EX4550?

In my view best stability, used by most people (all of my customers are on 12.3 
only), and no feature set differences. When 15.1 came out initially there were 
some concerns, so IMHO most just stayed on 12.3 once it was announced to have 
continued support.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 17, 2019, at 12:01 AM, Josh Baird  wrote:


Thanks, Richard.  Any particular reason why I would be better off using 12.3R12?

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 5:53 PM Richard McGovern 
mailto:rmcgov...@juniper.net>> wrote:
No.  For legacy EX switches, for which EX4500/EX4550 fall into, 15.1 is last 
release.  At the same time, I think you might have best results using 
12.3R12-S[latest] instead.  Both 12.3 and 15.1 will be maintained for life of 
legacy EX switches.

HTH, Rich

Richard McGovern
Sr Sales Engineer, Juniper Networks
978-618-3342

I’d rather be lucky than good, as I know I am not good
I don’t make the news, I just report it


On 10/16/19, 1:50 PM, "Josh Baird" 
mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Is it possible (and recommended) to run anything newer than 15.1 on EX4550
(which is what the JTAC-recommended version currently is).




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Re: [j-nsp] JunOS on EX4550?

2019-10-17 Thread Richard McGovern via juniper-nsp
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In my view best stability, used by most people (all of my customers are on 12.3 
only), and no feature set differences. When 15.1 came out initially there were 
some concerns, so IMHO most just stayed on 12.3 once it was announced to have 
continued support.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 17, 2019, at 12:01 AM, Josh Baird  wrote:


Thanks, Richard.  Any particular reason why I would be better off using 12.3R12?

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 5:53 PM Richard McGovern 
mailto:rmcgov...@juniper.net>> wrote:
No.  For legacy EX switches, for which EX4500/EX4550 fall into, 15.1 is last 
release.  At the same time, I think you might have best results using 
12.3R12-S[latest] instead.  Both 12.3 and 15.1 will be maintained for life of 
legacy EX switches.

HTH, Rich

Richard McGovern
Sr Sales Engineer, Juniper Networks
978-618-3342

I’d rather be lucky than good, as I know I am not good
I don’t make the news, I just report it


On 10/16/19, 1:50 PM, "Josh Baird" 
mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Is it possible (and recommended) to run anything newer than 15.1 on EX4550
(which is what the JTAC-recommended version currently is).



--- End Message ---
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Re: [j-nsp] FlowSpec and RTBH

2019-10-17 Thread Robert Raszuk
I see there are two questions here Marcin is asking:

> I was wondering is there a way to export family flow routes (from
> inetflow.0) to non flowspec BGP speaker?

Q1 - Can I advertise Flowspec NLRIs to non Flowspec speakers ? The answer
is clearly "No"

> For example tag Flowspec route with community and advertise this route
with
> different community to blackhole on upstream network (selective RTBH).

Q2 - Can flowspec be tagged with blackhole communities indicating the
actions yet still using match criteria to apply those selectively. The
answer is "Yes" the original 5575 RFC clearly allows so:

   A given flow may be associated with a set of attributes, depending on
   the particular application; such attributes may or may not include
   reachability information (i.e., NEXT_HOP).  *Well-known or AS-specific
   community attributes can be used to encode a set of predetermined
   actions.*


Thx,

R.


On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 8:44 PM Jeff Haas via juniper-nsp <
juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net> wrote:

>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Jeff Haas 
> To: "Marcin Głuc" 
> Cc: "juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net" 
> Bcc:
> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 18:44:07 +
> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] FlowSpec and RTBH
> Marcin,
>
>
> > On Oct 9, 2019, at 07:26, Marcin Głuc  wrote:
> > I was wondering is there a way to export family flow routes (from
> > inetflow.0) to non flowspec BGP speaker?
> > For example tag Flowspec route with community and advertise this route
> with
> > different community to blackhole on upstream network (selective RTBH).
>
> I'm having difficulty following your use case.
>
> Flowspec is its own address family with its own AFI/SAFI and a rather
> nasty format.
>
> Are you asking that some internal component of a flowspec filter, like
> destination, is leaked into another address family?
>
> -- Jeff
>
>
>
>
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> To: "Marcin Głuc" 
> Cc: "juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net" 
> Bcc:
> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 18:44:07 +
> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] FlowSpec and RTBH
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