Re: [j-nsp] EX to Cat6500 link?

2012-08-03 Thread JP Velders

 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 19:39:31 -0400
 From: William McLendon wimcl...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [j-nsp] EX to Cat6500 link?

 just to close this out -- we were able to get the circuit up and 
 running -- the issue was with how the Ciena gear was configured.  
 I've never done work on Ciena gear but it had something to do with a 
 GFP setting.  Whatever it was set to, they changed it and up 
 popped the circuit and the BGP session.

GFP is an encapsulation used on the WDM/TDM (grey area) side.

Link state propagation works seperately from the data plane... :(

Kind regards,
JP Velders
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[j-nsp] EX to Cat6500 link?

2012-08-01 Thread William McLendon
all,

this is an odd issue i'm having in turning up a new circuit, and hoping for 
some input / ideas --

the link between the EX and the Cat6500 is provided by a 3rd party provider (I 
think via DWDM - Sienna and Infinera gear).  Both the EX and the Cat6500 GigE 
interfaces are configured as routed interfaces.

I don't know enough about how DWDM gear operates, but if I set my side to Auto, 
while the far-side Cat6500 is fixed 1g/full, I successfully complete auto 
negotiation and negotiate to gig/full.  I don't know how transparent the 
transport equipment is, if i'm negotiating with their equipment, or something 
else . . . anyone have any ideas there?  The provider says they're basically 
just providing light signal transport, and should be auto negotiating with the 
far side Cat6500 (which i'm clearly not).

If the far side (Cat6500) sets his side also to Auto, both sides of the links 
go down.  If we both hard-set to gig/full, we both show link up, but no 
connectivity occurs.  We have checked and double checked the interface configs 
and IP reachability should be occurring.  At this time I still believe its 
something wrong with the transport equipment / configuration of the circuit, 
but I don't really have a way to prove it right now.  I was thinking about 
trying Ethernet OAM LFM, and if that comes up then we at least know L2 is 
working, and that we've clearly overlooked something on the IP side; and if it 
does not come up, then to me that points to the transport provider (or some 
very odd software bug somewhere).

Does anyone have some recommendations on troubleshooting this?  I'm at my wits 
end trying to bring this circuit online.

Thanks,

Will
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Re: [j-nsp] EX to Cat6500 link?

2012-08-01 Thread Ben Dale
Hi William,

On 01/08/2012, at 11:35 PM, William McLendon wimcl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 the link between the EX and the Cat6500 is provided by a 3rd party provider 
 (I think via DWDM - Sienna and Infinera gear).  Both the EX and the Cat6500 
 GigE interfaces are configured as routed interfaces.
 
 I don't know enough about how DWDM gear operates, but if I set my side to 
 Auto, while the far-side Cat6500 is fixed 1g/full, I successfully complete 
 auto negotiation and negotiate to gig/full.  I don't know how transparent the 
 transport equipment is, if i'm negotiating with their equipment, or something 
 else . . . anyone have any ideas there?  The provider says they're basically 
 just providing light signal transport, and should be auto negotiating with 
 the far side Cat6500 (which i'm clearly not).
 
 If the far side (Cat6500) sets his side also to Auto, both sides of the links 
 go down.  If we both hard-set to gig/full, we both show link up, but no 
 connectivity occurs.  We have checked and double checked the interface 
 configs and IP reachability should be occurring.  At this time I still 
 believe its something wrong with the transport equipment / configuration of 
 the circuit, but I don't really have a way to prove it right now.  I was 
 thinking about trying Ethernet OAM LFM, and if that comes up then we at least 
 know L2 is working, and that we've clearly overlooked something on the IP 
 side; and if it does not come up, then to me that points to the transport 
 provider (or some very odd software bug somewhere).

I've not had much to do with Ciena or Infinera, but on gear I'm familiar with 
auto-negotiation performed between your gear and the local DWDM transponder and 
is a bit of a dark art.

If it's at all an option, try and get the access interfaces swapper from copper 
to multimode and be done with it

Cheers,

Ben


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Re: [j-nsp] EX to Cat6500 link?

2012-08-01 Thread William McLendon
just to close this out -- we were able to get the circuit up and running -- the 
issue was with how the Ciena gear was configured.  I've never done work on 
Ciena gear but it had something to do with a GFP setting.  Whatever it was 
set to, they changed it and up popped the circuit and the BGP session.

I did end up using OAM LFM to help figure this out -- when they looped the 
local interface, LFM came up and I saw myself as a peer as expected -- when he 
moved the loop to the other end of the Ciena ring (at least if I was 
understanding correctly that's what they did), LFM did not come up.

Thanks all that replied on and off list with ideas!

Will


 
 
 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 09:35:21 -0400
 From: William McLendon wimcl...@gmail.com
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 Subject: [j-nsp] EX to Cat6500 link?
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 all,
 
 this is an odd issue i'm having in turning up a new circuit, and hoping for 
 some input / ideas --
 
 the link between the EX and the Cat6500 is provided by a 3rd party provider 
 (I think via DWDM - Sienna and Infinera gear).  Both the EX and the Cat6500 
 GigE interfaces are configured as routed interfaces.
 
 I don't know enough about how DWDM gear operates, but if I set my side to 
 Auto, while the far-side Cat6500 is fixed 1g/full, I successfully complete 
 auto negotiation and negotiate to gig/full.  I don't know how transparent the 
 transport equipment is, if i'm negotiating with their equipment, or something 
 else . . . anyone have any ideas there?  The provider says they're basically 
 just providing light signal transport, and should be auto negotiating with 
 the far side Cat6500 (which i'm clearly not).
 
 If the far side (Cat6500) sets his side also to Auto, both sides of the links 
 go down.  If we both hard-set to gig/full, we both show link up, but no 
 connectivity occurs.  We have checked and double checked the interface 
 configs and IP reachability should be occurring.  At this time I still 
 believe its something wrong with the transport equipment / configuration of 
 the circuit, but I don't really have a way to prove it right now.  I was 
 thinking about trying Ethernet OAM LFM, and if that comes up then we at least 
 know L2 is working, and that we've clearly overlooked something on the IP 
 side; and if it does not come up, then to me that points to the transport 
 provider (or some very odd software bug somewhere).
 
 Does anyone have some recommendations on troubleshooting this?  I'm at my 
 wits end trying to bring this circuit online.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Will
 
 
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