Re: [j-nsp] EX4500 - 3rd party DAC/Twinax cable support - link-up at 1g instead of 10g

2012-06-21 Thread Dale Shaw
Hi all,

Just following up on this post from April. My customer followed
through with JTAC and eventually it was determined that, while active
DAC cable support was planned for introduction in JUNOS 12.1, it
didn't actually make it.

References to active DAC cable support disappeared from various
documents in late May (12.1 release notes, etc.)

JTAC said: The Active DACs that are coming for EX's will be first
supported on the EX8200's and could be coming next release.

cheers,
Dale

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Dale Shaw dale.shaw+j-...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have a customer that is trying to connect some ESX hosts at 10g to a
 recently commissioned EX4500 VC.

 Their ESX hosts are IBM servers, and they were supplied with the
 following DAC cables:

 Cable: IBM Twin-ax Active Cable 5M, PN: 45W3039
 Cable labelled as: Brocade 10G Active 5M FCoE, 58-123-01

 The (two-member) EX4500 VC is running JUNOS 12.1R1 (mostly due to this
 release being the first to officially support active DAC cables).

 The EX4500 detects the interface when plugged into an SFP+ slot but
 the line speed/link-up speed is 1g (ge-*), not 10g (xe-*). Note there
 are no uplink modules installed; we're going directly into the
 built-in ports.

 Other info:
 ESX Version: ESX 4.1.0 Build 582267
 Adapter Model: IBM 42C1801
 ESX networking driver: qlgc-qlge-1.0.0.45-100.27-offline_bundle-418618

 Has anyone experienced this before? JTAC didn't provide much insight,
 other than to try a Juniper branded cable (e.g. EX-SFP-10GE-DAC-5m or
 EX-SFP-10GE-ACT-5M). So, that's our next step.
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Re: [j-nsp] EX4500 - 3rd party DAC/Twinax cable support - link-up at 1g instead of 10g

2012-04-29 Thread Tore Anderson
* Dale Shaw

 I have a customer that is trying to connect some ESX hosts at 10g to a
 recently commissioned EX4500 VC.
 
 Their ESX hosts are IBM servers, and they were supplied with the
 following DAC cables:
 
 Cable: IBM Twin-ax Active Cable 5M, PN: 45W3039
 Cable labelled as: Brocade 10G Active 5M FCoE, 58-123-01
 
 The (two-member) EX4500 VC is running JUNOS 12.1R1 (mostly due to this
 release being the first to officially support active DAC cables).
 
 The EX4500 detects the interface when plugged into an SFP+ slot but
 the line speed/link-up speed is 1g (ge-*), not 10g (xe-*). Note there
 are no uplink modules installed; we're going directly into the
 built-in ports.
 
 Other info:
 ESX Version: ESX 4.1.0 Build 582267
 Adapter Model: IBM 42C1801
 ESX networking driver: qlgc-qlge-1.0.0.45-100.27-offline_bundle-418618
 
 Has anyone experienced this before? JTAC didn't provide much insight,
 other than to try a Juniper branded cable (e.g. EX-SFP-10GE-DAC-5m or
 EX-SFP-10GE-ACT-5M). So, that's our next step.

Hi,

I bought a couple of 3rd party 5m active cables (that were supposed to
be coded for Juniper EX) that showed up as ge-* interfaces. We were
connecting them to a pair of Cisco Nexus 5010s, which detected them
correctly.

We noticed that some 3m «official» Cisco cables we had lying around
worked fine, so we asked the cable provider to copy the EEPROM ID (or
whatever it is called) from one of those onto the 3rd party ones, and
that made them work fine. It shows up in show chassis hardware like this:

Xcvr 11   NON-JNPR F111026008SFP+-10G-CU3M

And show chassis pic fpc-slot 0 pic-slot 0:

1110GBASE CU 3M n/a   CISCO-TYCO  2053783-2  n/a


This is a EX4500 VC running 11.1R3.5, the cables are plugged into the
built-in ports. Everything runs great now.

Best regards,
-- 
Tore Anderson
Redpill Linpro AS - http://www.redpill-linpro.com/
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Re: [j-nsp] EX4500 - 3rd party DAC/Twinax cable support - link-up at 1g instead of 10g

2012-04-29 Thread Timh Bergström
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Tore Anderson
tore.ander...@redpill-linpro.com wrote:
 * Dale Shaw

 I have a customer that is trying to connect some ESX hosts at 10g to a
 recently commissioned EX4500 VC.

 Their ESX hosts are IBM servers, and they were supplied with the
 following DAC cables:

 Cable: IBM Twin-ax Active Cable 5M, PN: 45W3039
 Cable labelled as: Brocade 10G Active 5M FCoE, 58-123-01

 The (two-member) EX4500 VC is running JUNOS 12.1R1 (mostly due to this
 release being the first to officially support active DAC cables).

 The EX4500 detects the interface when plugged into an SFP+ slot but
 the line speed/link-up speed is 1g (ge-*), not 10g (xe-*). Note there
 are no uplink modules installed; we're going directly into the
 built-in ports.

 Other info:
 ESX Version: ESX 4.1.0 Build 582267
 Adapter Model: IBM 42C1801
 ESX networking driver: qlgc-qlge-1.0.0.45-100.27-offline_bundle-418618

 Has anyone experienced this before? JTAC didn't provide much insight,
 other than to try a Juniper branded cable (e.g. EX-SFP-10GE-DAC-5m or
 EX-SFP-10GE-ACT-5M). So, that's our next step.

 Hi,

 I bought a couple of 3rd party 5m active cables (that were supposed to
 be coded for Juniper EX) that showed up as ge-* interfaces. We were
 connecting them to a pair of Cisco Nexus 5010s, which detected them
 correctly.

 We noticed that some 3m «official» Cisco cables we had lying around
 worked fine, so we asked the cable provider to copy the EEPROM ID (or
 whatever it is called) from one of those onto the 3rd party ones, and
 that made them work fine. It shows up in show chassis hardware like this:

 Xcvr 11               NON-JNPR     F111026008        SFP+-10G-CU3M

 And show chassis pic fpc-slot 0 pic-slot 0:

 11    10GBASE CU 3M     n/a   CISCO-TYCO      2053783-2      n/a


 This is a EX4500 VC running 11.1R3.5, the cables are plugged into the
 built-in ports. Everything runs great now.

 Best regards,
 --
 Tore Anderson
 Redpill Linpro AS - http://www.redpill-linpro.com/
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We're currently having problems with Cisco DAC's (5m) active cables
that only shows up as ge ports in our EX4500-VC and won't come
online (Intel 10G NIC in the other end, works fine with
Dell-switches/modules). We're running 11.3R4.2, I've heard some
unofficial rumors about this version and earlier that won't take 3rd
party sfp+, we have a couple of juniper DAC's and a couple of 3rd
party sfp+ (coded as Juniper) that works fine though.

To be honest we're not running any Juniper SFP/XFP/SFP+ transceivers
and it has worked great for us so far, it's just the Cisco active ones
that won't come up.

If I have time I will upgrade to the latest recommended software or
just go with the 3rd party vendor and run fiber-cables instead.

-- 
Timh Bergström
Head of System Operations
Videoplaza/System Operations

timh.bergst...@videoplaza.com
+46 727 406 845
S:t Eriksgatan 46
Stockholm
www.videoplaza.com

skype: timh_bergstrom
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[j-nsp] EX4500 - 3rd party DAC/Twinax cable support - link-up at 1g instead of 10g

2012-04-28 Thread Dale Shaw
Hi all,

I have a customer that is trying to connect some ESX hosts at 10g to a
recently commissioned EX4500 VC.

Their ESX hosts are IBM servers, and they were supplied with the
following DAC cables:

Cable: IBM Twin-ax Active Cable 5M, PN: 45W3039
Cable labelled as: Brocade 10G Active 5M FCoE, 58-123-01

The (two-member) EX4500 VC is running JUNOS 12.1R1 (mostly due to this
release being the first to officially support active DAC cables).

The EX4500 detects the interface when plugged into an SFP+ slot but
the line speed/link-up speed is 1g (ge-*), not 10g (xe-*). Note there
are no uplink modules installed; we're going directly into the
built-in ports.

Other info:
ESX Version: ESX 4.1.0 Build 582267
Adapter Model: IBM 42C1801
ESX networking driver: qlgc-qlge-1.0.0.45-100.27-offline_bundle-418618

Has anyone experienced this before? JTAC didn't provide much insight,
other than to try a Juniper branded cable (e.g. EX-SFP-10GE-DAC-5m or
EX-SFP-10GE-ACT-5M). So, that's our next step.

Any other tips?

cheers,
Dale
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