Re: [j-nsp] How to upgrade junos 5.0.0r8.1

2009-07-15 Thread George
Thanks Guys, atleast that gives a success rate guarantee of around 90%,
better than some of those Vaccine drugs in the market.

Cheerz

On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 15:42 -0500, Tim Eberhard wrote:

 You configuration will remain after the upgrade/reboot.
 
 Downgrading is the same process as upgrading as long as you're going
 from say 5.2 to 5.0. Just load the 5.0 image and reboot. The 5.0 image
 is blown away when you load the newer screenOS.
 
 Good luck,
 -Tim Eberhard
 
 
 On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:04 AM, George gmb...@cellulant.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Guys,
 
 Sure I had planned to upgrade to above 5.2 , are these
 firmwares available for download?
 
 So the next question is really about the configs, Once a
 reboot is done all the previous setting take in effect, is
 that so? And for a rollback the do I just scroll for the
 image?
 
 Regards
 George
 
 
 
 
 
 On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 17:39 +0300, Humair Ali wrote: 
 
  Hi Georges 
  
  Tim is absolutely correct, and since you are using the 2
  netscreens as a standalone, you are bound to have downtime.
  
  One other , I believe (needs to verify) you can't go
  straight from 5.0 to 6.x, you need to upgrade through an
  intermediary such as 5.4 then upgrade 6.x so that is added
  downtime since again code needs to be reloaded after upgrade
  to 5.4 and then to 6.0
  
  HTH
  
  
  
  2009/7/13 Tim Eberhard xmi...@gmail.com
  
  George,
  
  It's not possible to preform any kind of hitless
  upgrade..
  
  The Netscreen must reboot once the new code is
  loaded. So you must factor in
  the time it will take for the firewall to reload in
  addition to the hit it
  will take when the wall comes back online and the
  traffic starts to flood
  back. Depending on the size of your network/amount
  of VPN tunnels it could
  take a couple of minutes for everything to ramp back
  up.
  
  Downgrading code is possible depending what code
  version you're going to. It
  can be a bit problematic if say you go to 6.X code
  from 5.0 but if you had
  planned on going from 5.0 to 5.4 going back
  shouldn't be much of a problem.
  
  Good luck,
  
  -Tim Eberhard 
  
  
  
  On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:12 AM, George
  gmb...@cellulant.com wrote:
  
   Sorry guys,
  
   The two firewalls are in completely two different
  networks and in no way
   work together. The reason I mentioned the two is
  because I tried the
   same VPN on the other Firewall with a higher
  firmware and it worked
   within minutes of set-up. So i really want to
  upgrade this firewall.
  
   Thanks
   George
  
   On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 17:17 +0500,
  mas...@nexlinx.net.pk wrote:
  
Are you using both of the firewalls as n
  active/active or active/passive;
if yes thn you can try upgrading one of them
  while the other will take
care of your production services.
   
Regards,
Masood
   
 Hi there,

 I have two juniper netscreens one is Firmware
  5.0.0r8.1 . Now I have
 encountered a problem when setting up a VPN on
  this one due to firmware
 version thus I need to upgrade it.

 The question is how do I upgrade this
  firmware, challenge being that it
 is running live services and if the upgrade
  fails how do I roll-back.
 Guess the thing is I have to be 100% sure the
  upgrade will not affect
 anything.

 Cheers.
 George

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Re: [j-nsp] How to upgrade junos 5.0.0r8.1

2009-07-15 Thread George
Hello again.

Just to confirm the steps if they are correct:
1. download the firmware I want to upgrade to ie 5.2.0r2.0 (Do i get the
zip file or the bin, or is the bin file contained in the zip file)
2. From the Juniper GUI browse and load the Image to be upgraded.
3. Once loaded reboot the juniper for the changes to take effect.

Problem here again, I have been re-tryin to download the zip file from
www.gegereka.com even after getting the access code, what and where is
the easiet URL to download the update?

Regards
George


On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 09:29 +0300, George wrote:

 Thanks Guys, atleast that gives a success rate guarantee of around
 90%, better than some of those Vaccine drugs in the market.
 
 Cheerz
 
 On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 15:42 -0500, Tim Eberhard wrote:
 
  You configuration will remain after the upgrade/reboot.
  
  Downgrading is the same process as upgrading as long as you're going
  from say 5.2 to 5.0. Just load the 5.0 image and reboot. The 5.0
  image is blown away when you load the newer screenOS.
  
  Good luck,
  -Tim Eberhard
  
  On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:04 AM, George gmb...@cellulant.com
  wrote:
  
  Thanks Guys,
  
  Sure I had planned to upgrade to above 5.2 , are these
  firmwares available for download?
  
  So the next question is really about the configs, Once a
  reboot is done all the previous setting take in effect, is
  that so? And for a rollback the do I just scroll for the
  image?
  
  Regards
  George 
  
  
  
  
  On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 17:39 +0300, Humair Ali wrote: 
  
   Hi Georges 
   
   Tim is absolutely correct, and since you are using the 2
   netscreens as a standalone, you are bound to have
   downtime.
   
   One other , I believe (needs to verify) you can't go
   straight from 5.0 to 6.x, you need to upgrade through an
   intermediary such as 5.4 then upgrade 6.x so that is added
   downtime since again code needs to be reloaded after
   upgrade to 5.4 and then to 6.0
   
   HTH
   
   
   
   2009/7/13 Tim Eberhard xmi...@gmail.com
   
   George,
   
   It's not possible to preform any kind of hitless
   upgrade..
   
   The Netscreen must reboot once the new code is
   loaded. So you must factor in
   the time it will take for the firewall to reload
   in addition to the hit it
   will take when the wall comes back online and the
   traffic starts to flood
   back. Depending on the size of your network/amount
   of VPN tunnels it could
   take a couple of minutes for everything to ramp
   back up.
   
   Downgrading code is possible depending what code
   version you're going to. It
   can be a bit problematic if say you go to 6.X code
   from 5.0 but if you had
   planned on going from 5.0 to 5.4 going back
   shouldn't be much of a problem.
   
   Good luck,
   
   -Tim Eberhard 
   
   
   
   On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:12 AM, George
   gmb...@cellulant.com wrote:
   
Sorry guys,
   
The two firewalls are in completely two
   different networks and in no way
work together. The reason I mentioned the two is
   because I tried the
same VPN on the other Firewall with a higher
   firmware and it worked
within minutes of set-up. So i really want to
   upgrade this firewall.
   
Thanks
George
   
On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 17:17 +0500,
   mas...@nexlinx.net.pk wrote:
   
 Are you using both of the firewalls as n
   active/active or active/passive;
 if yes thn you can try upgrading one of them
   while the other will take
 care of your production services.

 Regards,
 Masood

  Hi there,
 
  I have two juniper netscreens one is
   Firmware 5.0.0r8.1 . Now I have
  encountered a problem when setting up a VPN
  

Re: [j-nsp] How to upgrade junos 5.0.0r8.1

2009-07-15 Thread Tim Eberhard
The bin file is within the ZIP. You will load the bin to the firewall.

I would highly recommend against using anything but juniper.net to download
your netscreen software. Never ever get your images from any where but
directly from Juniper. The firewall images could contain back doors, root
kits or other such harmful things when using an external source such as
gegereka.

-Tim Eberhard

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:48 AM, George gmb...@cellulant.com wrote:

  Hello again.

 Just to confirm the steps if they are correct:
 1. download the firmware I want to upgrade to ie 5.2.0r2.0 (Do i get the
 zip file or the bin, or is the bin file contained in the zip file)
 2. From the Juniper GUI browse and load the Image to be upgraded.
 3. Once loaded reboot the juniper for the changes to take effect.

 Problem here again, I have been re-tryin to download the zip file from
 www.gegereka.com even after getting the access code, what and where is the
 easiet URL to download the update?

 Regards
 George



 On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 09:29 +0300, George wrote:

 Thanks Guys, atleast that gives a success rate guarantee of around 90%,
 better than some of those Vaccine drugs in the market.

 Cheerz

 On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 15:42 -0500, Tim Eberhard wrote:

 You configuration will remain after the upgrade/reboot.

 Downgrading is the same process as upgrading as long as you're going from
 say 5.2 to 5.0. Just load the 5.0 image and reboot. The 5.0 image is blown
 away when you load the newer screenOS.

 Good luck,
 -Tim Eberhard

 On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:04 AM, George gmb...@cellulant.com wrote:

 Thanks Guys,

 Sure I had planned to upgrade to above 5.2 , are these firmwares available
 for download?

 So the next question is really about the configs, Once a reboot is done all
 the previous setting take in effect, is that so? And for a rollback the do I
 just scroll for the image?

 Regards
 George




 On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 17:39 +0300, Humair Ali wrote:

 Hi Georges

 Tim is absolutely correct, and since you are using the 2 netscreens as a
 standalone, you are bound to have downtime.

 One other , I believe (needs to verify) you can't go straight from 5.0 to
 6.x, you need to upgrade through an intermediary such as 5.4 then upgrade
 6.x so that is added downtime since again code needs to be reloaded after
 upgrade to 5.4 and then to 6.0

 HTH



 2009/7/13 Tim Eberhard xmi...@gmail.com

 George,

 It's not possible to preform any kind of hitless upgrade..

 The Netscreen must reboot once the new code is loaded. So you must factor
 in
 the time it will take for the firewall to reload in addition to the hit it
 will take when the wall comes back online and the traffic starts to flood
 back. Depending on the size of your network/amount of VPN tunnels it could
 take a couple of minutes for everything to ramp back up.

 Downgrading code is possible depending what code version you're going to.
 It
 can be a bit problematic if say you go to 6.X code from 5.0 but if you had
 planned on going from 5.0 to 5.4 going back shouldn't be much of a problem.

 Good luck,

 -Tim Eberhard



 On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:12 AM, George gmb...@cellulant.com wrote:

  Sorry guys,
 
  The two firewalls are in completely two different networks and in no way
  work together. The reason I mentioned the two is because I tried the
  same VPN on the other Firewall with a higher firmware and it worked
  within minutes of set-up. So i really want to upgrade this firewall.
 
  Thanks
  George
 
  On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 17:17 +0500, mas...@nexlinx.net.pk wrote:
 
   Are you using both of the firewalls as n active/active or
 active/passive;
   if yes thn you can try upgrading one of them while the other will take
   care of your production services.
  
   Regards,
   Masood
  
Hi there,
   
I have two juniper netscreens one is Firmware 5.0.0r8.1 . Now I have
encountered a problem when setting up a VPN on this one due to
 firmware
version thus I need to upgrade it.
   
The question is how do I upgrade this firmware, challenge being that
 it
is running live services and if the upgrade fails how do I roll-back.
Guess the thing is I have to be 100% sure the upgrade will not affect
anything.
   
Cheers.
George
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[j-nsp] How to upgrade junos 5.0.0r8.1

2009-07-13 Thread George
Hi there,

I have two juniper netscreens one is Firmware 5.0.0r8.1 . Now I have
encountered a problem when setting up a VPN on this one due to firmware
version thus I need to upgrade it.

The question is how do I upgrade this firmware, challenge being that it
is running live services and if the upgrade fails how do I roll-back.
Guess the thing is I have to be 100% sure the upgrade will not affect
anything.

Cheers.
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Re: [j-nsp] How to upgrade junos 5.0.0r8.1

2009-07-13 Thread masood
Are you using both of the firewalls as n active/active or active/passive;
if yes thn you can try upgrading one of them while the other will take
care of your production services.

Regards,
Masood

 Hi there,

 I have two juniper netscreens one is Firmware 5.0.0r8.1 . Now I have
 encountered a problem when setting up a VPN on this one due to firmware
 version thus I need to upgrade it.

 The question is how do I upgrade this firmware, challenge being that it
 is running live services and if the upgrade fails how do I roll-back.
 Guess the thing is I have to be 100% sure the upgrade will not affect
 anything.

 Cheers.
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Re: [j-nsp] How to upgrade junos 5.0.0r8.1

2009-07-13 Thread George
Sorry guys,

The two firewalls are in completely two different networks and in no way
work together. The reason I mentioned the two is because I tried the
same VPN on the other Firewall with a higher firmware and it worked
within minutes of set-up. So i really want to upgrade this firewall.

Thanks
George

On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 17:17 +0500, mas...@nexlinx.net.pk wrote:

 Are you using both of the firewalls as n active/active or active/passive;
 if yes thn you can try upgrading one of them while the other will take
 care of your production services.
 
 Regards,
 Masood
 
  Hi there,
 
  I have two juniper netscreens one is Firmware 5.0.0r8.1 . Now I have
  encountered a problem when setting up a VPN on this one due to firmware
  version thus I need to upgrade it.
 
  The question is how do I upgrade this firmware, challenge being that it
  is running live services and if the upgrade fails how do I roll-back.
  Guess the thing is I have to be 100% sure the upgrade will not affect
  anything.
 
  Cheers.
  George
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Re: [j-nsp] How to upgrade junos 5.0.0r8.1

2009-07-13 Thread George
Sorry guys,

The two firewalls are in completely two different networks and in no way
work together. The reason I mentioned the two is because I tried the
same VPN on the other Firewall with a higher firmware and it worked
within minutes of set-up. So i really want to upgrade this firewall.

Thanks
George

On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 17:17 +0500, mas...@nexlinx.net.pk wrote: 

 Are you using both of the firewalls as n active/active or active/passive;
 if yes thn you can try upgrading one of them while the other will take
 care of your production services.
 
 Regards,
 Masood
 
  Hi there,
 
  I have two juniper netscreens one is Firmware 5.0.0r8.1 . Now I have
  encountered a problem when setting up a VPN on this one due to firmware
  version thus I need to upgrade it.
 
  The question is how do I upgrade this firmware, challenge being that it
  is running live services and if the upgrade fails how do I roll-back.
  Guess the thing is I have to be 100% sure the upgrade will not affect
  anything.
 
  Cheers.
  George
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Re: [j-nsp] How to upgrade junos 5.0.0r8.1

2009-07-13 Thread Tim Eberhard
George,

It's not possible to preform any kind of hitless upgrade..

The Netscreen must reboot once the new code is loaded. So you must factor in
the time it will take for the firewall to reload in addition to the hit it
will take when the wall comes back online and the traffic starts to flood
back. Depending on the size of your network/amount of VPN tunnels it could
take a couple of minutes for everything to ramp back up.

Downgrading code is possible depending what code version you're going to. It
can be a bit problematic if say you go to 6.X code from 5.0 but if you had
planned on going from 5.0 to 5.4 going back shouldn't be much of a problem.

Good luck,

-Tim Eberhard


On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:12 AM, George gmb...@cellulant.com wrote:

 Sorry guys,

 The two firewalls are in completely two different networks and in no way
 work together. The reason I mentioned the two is because I tried the
 same VPN on the other Firewall with a higher firmware and it worked
 within minutes of set-up. So i really want to upgrade this firewall.

 Thanks
 George

 On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 17:17 +0500, mas...@nexlinx.net.pk wrote:

  Are you using both of the firewalls as n active/active or active/passive;
  if yes thn you can try upgrading one of them while the other will take
  care of your production services.
 
  Regards,
  Masood
 
   Hi there,
  
   I have two juniper netscreens one is Firmware 5.0.0r8.1 . Now I have
   encountered a problem when setting up a VPN on this one due to firmware
   version thus I need to upgrade it.
  
   The question is how do I upgrade this firmware, challenge being that it
   is running live services and if the upgrade fails how do I roll-back.
   Guess the thing is I have to be 100% sure the upgrade will not affect
   anything.
  
   Cheers.
   George
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Re: [j-nsp] How to upgrade junos 5.0.0r8.1

2009-07-13 Thread George
Thanks Guys,

Sure I had planned to upgrade to above 5.2 , are these firmwares
available for download?

So the next question is really about the configs, Once a reboot is done
all the previous setting take in effect, is that so? And for a rollback
the do I just scroll for the image?

Regards
George


On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 17:39 +0300, Humair Ali wrote:
 Hi Georges 
 
 Tim is absolutely correct, and since you are using the 2 netscreens as
 a standalone, you are bound to have downtime.
 
 One other , I believe (needs to verify) you can't go straight from 5.0
 to 6.x, you need to upgrade through an intermediary such as 5.4 then
 upgrade 6.x so that is added downtime since again code needs to be
 reloaded after upgrade to 5.4 and then to 6.0
 
 HTH
 
 
 
 
 2009/7/13 Tim Eberhard xmi...@gmail.com
 
 George,
 
 It's not possible to preform any kind of hitless upgrade..
 
 The Netscreen must reboot once the new code is loaded. So you
 must factor in
 the time it will take for the firewall to reload in addition
 to the hit it
 will take when the wall comes back online and the traffic
 starts to flood
 back. Depending on the size of your network/amount of VPN
 tunnels it could
 take a couple of minutes for everything to ramp back up.
 
 Downgrading code is possible depending what code version
 you're going to. It
 can be a bit problematic if say you go to 6.X code from 5.0
 but if you had
 planned on going from 5.0 to 5.4 going back shouldn't be much
 of a problem.
 
 Good luck,
 
 -Tim Eberhard
 
 
 
 
 On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:12 AM, George gmb...@cellulant.com
 wrote:
 
  Sorry guys,
 
  The two firewalls are in completely two different networks
 and in no way
  work together. The reason I mentioned the two is because I
 tried the
  same VPN on the other Firewall with a higher firmware and it
 worked
  within minutes of set-up. So i really want to upgrade this
 firewall.
 
  Thanks
  George
 
  On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 17:17 +0500, mas...@nexlinx.net.pk
 wrote:
 
   Are you using both of the firewalls as n active/active or
 active/passive;
   if yes thn you can try upgrading one of them while the
 other will take
   care of your production services.
  
   Regards,
   Masood
  
Hi there,
   
I have two juniper netscreens one is Firmware
 5.0.0r8.1 . Now I have
encountered a problem when setting up a VPN on this one
 due to firmware
version thus I need to upgrade it.
   
The question is how do I upgrade this firmware,
 challenge being that it
is running live services and if the upgrade fails how do
 I roll-back.
Guess the thing is I have to be 100% sure the upgrade
 will not affect
anything.
   
Cheers.
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Re: [j-nsp] How to upgrade junos 5.0.0r8.1

2009-07-13 Thread Tim Eberhard
You configuration will remain after the upgrade/reboot.

Downgrading is the same process as upgrading as long as you're going from
say 5.2 to 5.0. Just load the 5.0 image and reboot. The 5.0 image is blown
away when you load the newer screenOS.

Good luck,
-Tim Eberhard

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:04 AM, George gmb...@cellulant.com wrote:

  Thanks Guys,

 Sure I had planned to upgrade to above 5.2 , are these firmwares available
 for download?

 So the next question is really about the configs, Once a reboot is done all
 the previous setting take in effect, is that so? And for a rollback the do I
 just scroll for the image?

 Regards
 George



 On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 17:39 +0300, Humair Ali wrote:

 Hi Georges

 Tim is absolutely correct, and since you are using the 2 netscreens as a
 standalone, you are bound to have downtime.

 One other , I believe (needs to verify) you can't go straight from 5.0 to
 6.x, you need to upgrade through an intermediary such as 5.4 then upgrade
 6.x so that is added downtime since again code needs to be reloaded after
 upgrade to 5.4 and then to 6.0

 HTH



  2009/7/13 Tim Eberhard xmi...@gmail.com

 George,

 It's not possible to preform any kind of hitless upgrade..

 The Netscreen must reboot once the new code is loaded. So you must factor
 in
 the time it will take for the firewall to reload in addition to the hit it
 will take when the wall comes back online and the traffic starts to flood
 back. Depending on the size of your network/amount of VPN tunnels it could
 take a couple of minutes for everything to ramp back up.

 Downgrading code is possible depending what code version you're going to.
 It
 can be a bit problematic if say you go to 6.X code from 5.0 but if you had
 planned on going from 5.0 to 5.4 going back shouldn't be much of a problem.

 Good luck,

 -Tim Eberhard




 On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:12 AM, George gmb...@cellulant.com wrote:

  Sorry guys,
 
  The two firewalls are in completely two different networks and in no way
  work together. The reason I mentioned the two is because I tried the
  same VPN on the other Firewall with a higher firmware and it worked
  within minutes of set-up. So i really want to upgrade this firewall.
 
  Thanks
  George
 
  On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 17:17 +0500, mas...@nexlinx.net.pk wrote:
 
   Are you using both of the firewalls as n active/active or
 active/passive;
   if yes thn you can try upgrading one of them while the other will take
   care of your production services.
  
   Regards,
   Masood
  
Hi there,
   
I have two juniper netscreens one is Firmware 5.0.0r8.1 . Now I have
encountered a problem when setting up a VPN on this one due to
 firmware
version thus I need to upgrade it.
   
The question is how do I upgrade this firmware, challenge being that
 it
is running live services and if the upgrade fails how do I roll-back.
Guess the thing is I have to be 100% sure the upgrade will not affect
anything.
   
Cheers.
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