Re: [j-nsp] OSPF LFA and LDP LSPs

2010-05-31 Thread Serge Vautour
Hello,

An update on this thread for anyone who might find it in the future. It appears 
the problem (or design) is with the traceroute mpls ldp command. It will test 
both the primary and backup LSP paths setup by OSPF LFA. Per JTAC, I simulated 
customer traffic over my lab network and the backup LSP path was never used. As 
a resolution to the case JTAC has agreed to update the traceroute command 
documentation.

Serge



- Original Message 
From: Serge Vautour sergevaut...@yahoo.ca
To: Alex alex.arsen...@gmail.com; juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 3:25:38 PM
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] OSPF LFA and LDP LSPs

Hello,

Well that command explains a few things. Thanks! I do want the LDP LSPs to 
follow the OSPF shortest path. I had never really noticed that the inet.3 table 
entries had a different metric than my inet.0 entries. That helped make the 
metrics match however I still have the same problem.

Note the matching metrics:

-
se36...@pe1-stjhlab-re0 show route 10.10.80.2 logical-system PE10 detail 

inet.0: 34 destinations, 34 routes (34 active, 0 holddown, 0 hidden)
10.10.80.2/32 (1 entry, 1 announced)
*OSPF   Preference: 10
Next hop type: Router
Next-hop reference count: 26
Next hop: 10.10.81.10 via xe-0/3/0.0 weight 0x1, selected
Next hop: 10.10.81.23 via ge-1/3/3.0 weight 0xf000
State: Active Int
Local AS:   855 
Age: 8:04   Metric: 2 
Area: 0.0.0.0
Task: OSPF
Announcement bits (3): 2-LDP 3-KRT 5-Resolve tree 2 
AS path: I

inet.3: 7 destinations, 7 routes (7 active, 0 holddown, 0 hidden)

10.10.80.2/32 (1 entry, 1 announced)
State: FlashAll
*LDPPreference: 9
Next hop type: Router
Next-hop reference count: 3
Next hop: 10.10.81.10 via xe-0/3/0.0 weight 0x1, selected
Label operation: Push 300064
Next hop: 10.10.81.23 via ge-1/3/3.0 weight 0xf000
Label operation: Push 30
State: Active Int
Local AS:   855 
Age: 8:04   Metric: 2  --- Matches inet.0
Task: LDP
Announcement bits (2): 2-Resolve tree 1 3-Resolve tree 2 
AS path: I
-

The same problem exists:


se36...@pe1-stjhlab-re0 show ldp route 10.10.80.2 logical-system PE10
Destination Next-hop intf/lspNext-hop address
10.10.80.2/32  xe-0/3/0.0   10.10.81.10
ge-1/3/3.0   10.10.81.23

se36...@pe1-stjhlab-re0 traceroute 10.10.80.2 no-resolve logical-system PE10 
traceroute to 10.10.80.2 (10.10.80.2), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1  10.10.81.10  0.347 ms  0.268 ms  0.279 ms
2  10.10.80.2  36.471 ms  0.480 ms  0.436 ms

se36...@pe1-stjhlab-re0 traceroute mpls ldp 10.10.80.2 no-resolve 
logical-system PE10
  Probe options: ttl 64, retries 3, wait 10, paths 16, exp 7, fanout 16

  ttlLabel  ProtocolAddress  Previous Hop Probe Status
1   300064  LDP 10.10.81.10  (null)   Success  
23  LDP 10.10.81.1   10.10.81.10  Egress

  Path 1 via xe-0/3/0.0 destination 127.0.0.64

  ttlLabel  ProtocolAddress  Previous Hop Probe Status
1   30  LDP 10.10.81.23  (null)   Success  
23  LDP 10.10.81.20  10.10.81.23  Egress

  Path 2 via ge-1/3/3.0 destination 127.0.1.64

-

Note that the LDP LSP is still taking both paths?!?

Thanks,
Serge




- Original Message 
From: Alex alex.arsen...@gmail.com
To: Serge Vautour se...@nbnet.nb.ca; juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 1:44:13 PM
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] OSPF LFA and LDP LSPs

Serge,
Do you have track-igp-metric configured under LDP? I am pretty sure it does 
not since your OSPF and LDP metrics are different but I'd like to confirm.
Please try to configure track-igp-metric for LDP and re-run MPLS traceroute.
Rgds
Alex


- Original Message - From: Serge Vautour sergevaut...@yahoo.ca
To: Clarke Morledge chm...@wm.edu; juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] OSPF LFA and LDP LSPs


 Hello,
 
 Thanks for your comments. I agree with your theory. It's my understanding as 
 well. What I don't get is why the traceroute mpls ldp command uses both 
 paths and yet traceroute ip uses 1 path. It's like the backup path is being 
 used by the LDP LSP when it shouldn't be...
 
 Serge
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Clarke Morledge chm...@wm.edu
 To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Cc: Serge Vautour sergevaut...@yahoo.ca
 Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 11:35:30 AM
 Subject: RE

[j-nsp] OSPF LFA and LDP LSPs

2010-03-16 Thread Serge Vautour
Hello,

We are testing MPLS in our lab using two MX960s with a few LS to add more 
routers. I'm using OSPF as the IGP and LDP for transport labels. We're on 10.0 
code so I've been testing OSPF LFA. It appears to be doing something strange 
and I can't tell if it's per design or a bug.

Here's a PE's route to a destination PE loopback:

--
se36...@pe1-stjhlab-re0 show route 10.10.80.2 logical-system PE10 detail

inet.0: 34 destinations, 34 routes (34 active, 0 holddown, 0 hidden)
10.10.80.2/32 (1 entry, 1 announced)
*OSPF   Preference: 10
Next hop type: Router, Next hop index: 1192
Next-hop reference count: 40
Next hop: 10.10.81.10 via xe-0/3/0.0, selected
State: Active Int
Local AS:   855 
Age: 2  Metric: 2 
Area: 0.0.0.0
Task: OSPF
Announcement bits (3): 2-LDP 3-KRT 5-Resolve tree 2 
AS path: I

inet.3: 7 destinations, 7 routes (7 active, 0 holddown, 0 hidden)

10.10.80.2/32 (1 entry, 1 announced)
State: FlashAll
*LDPPreference: 9
Next hop type: Router
Next-hop reference count: 3
Next hop: 10.10.81.10 via xe-0/3/0.0, selected
Label operation: Push 299776
State: Active Int
Local AS:   855 
Age: 2  Metric: 1 
Task: LDP
Announcement bits (2): 2-Resolve tree 1 3-Resolve tree 2 
AS path: I

{master}
se36...@pe1-stjhlab-re0 show ldp route logical-system PE10 10.10.80.2 
extensive
Destination Next-hop intf/lspNext-hop address
 10.10.80.2/32  xe-0/3/0.0   10.10.81.10
   Session ID 10.10.80.10:0--10.10.80.1:0
   Bound to outgoing label 299840, Topology entry: 0x8e69980
   Ingress route status: Active, Last modified: 00:00:10 ago

se36...@pe1-stjhlab-re0 traceroute 10.10.80.2 logical-system PE10 no-resolve 
traceroute to 10.10.80.2 (10.10.80.2), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  10.10.81.10  0.353 ms  0.274 ms  0.279 ms
 2  10.10.80.2  0.460 ms  0.455 ms  0.437 ms

{master}
se36...@pe1-stjhlab-re0 traceroute mpls ldp 10.10.80.2 logical-system PE10 
no-resolve
  Probe options: ttl 64, retries 3, wait 10, paths 16, exp 7, fanout 16

  ttlLabel  ProtocolAddress  Previous Hop Probe Status
1   299776  LDP 10.10.81.10  (null)   Success   
23  LDP 10.10.81.1   10.10.81.10  Egress

  Path 1 via xe-0/3/0.0 destination 127.0.0.64
--

Everything is normal. IP packets are following the OSPF shortest path per the 
costs I've set. The LDP LSP is following OSPF.

Now I turn on OSPF LFA link-protection on the links and re-run the same tests:

---
se36...@pe1-stjhlab-re0 show route 10.10.80.2 logical-system PE10 detail   
 

inet.0: 34 destinations, 34 routes (34 active, 0 holddown, 0 hidden)
10.10.80.2/32 (1 entry, 1 announced)
*OSPF   Preference: 10
Next hop type: Router
Next-hop reference count: 26
Next hop: 10.10.81.10 via xe-0/3/0.0 weight 0x1, selected
Next hop: 10.10.81.23 via ge-1/3/3.0 weight 0xf000   - 
Huh???
State: Active Int
Local AS:   855 
Age: 4  Metric: 2 
Area: 0.0.0.0
Task: OSPF
Announcement bits (3): 2-LDP 3-KRT 5-Resolve tree 2 
AS path: I

inet.3: 7 destinations, 7 routes (7 active, 0 holddown, 0 hidden)

10.10.80.2/32 (1 entry, 1 announced)
State: FlashAll
*LDPPreference: 9
Next hop type: Router
Next-hop reference count: 3
Next hop: 10.10.81.10 via xe-0/3/0.0 weight 0x1, selected
Label operation: Push 299776
Next hop: 10.10.81.23 via ge-1/3/3.0 weight 0xf000 - 
Huh???
Label operation: Push 299856
State: Active Int
Local AS:   855 
Age: 4  Metric: 1 
Task: LDP
Announcement bits (2): 2-Resolve tree 1 3-Resolve tree 2 
AS path: I

{master}
se36...@pe1-stjhlab-re0 show ldp route logical-system PE10 10.10.80.2 
extensive 
Destination Next-hop intf/lspNext-hop address
 10.10.80.2/32  xe-0/3/0.0   10.10.81.10
   Session ID 10.10.80.10:0--10.10.80.1:0
ge-1/3/3.0   10.10.81.23
   Session ID 10.10.80.10:0--10.10.80.14:0
   Bound to outgoing label 299840, Topology entry: 0x8e69980
   Ingress route status: Active, Last modified: 00:00:09 ago

{master}
se36...@pe1-stjhlab-re0 traceroute 10.10.80.2 logical-system PE10 no-resolve   
 
traceroute to 10.10.80.2 

Re: [j-nsp] OSPF LFA and LDP LSPs

2010-03-16 Thread Clarke Morledge

Serge,

Part of what you wrote included this:


Now I turn on OSPF LFA link-protection on the links and re-run the same tests:

---
se36...@pe1-stjhlab-re0 show route 10.10.80.2 logical-system PE10 detail

inet.0: 34 destinations, 34 routes (34 active, 0 holddown, 0 hidden)
10.10.80.2/32 (1 entry, 1 announced)
   *OSPF   Preference: 10
   Next hop type: Router
   Next-hop reference count: 26
   Next hop: 10.10.81.10 via xe-0/3/0.0 weight 0x1, selected
   Next hop: 10.10.81.23 via ge-1/3/3.0 weight 0xf000   - 
Huh???
   State: Active Int
   Local AS:   855
   Age: 4  Metric: 2
   Area: 0.0.0.0
   Task: OSPF
   Announcement bits (3): 2-LDP 3-KRT 5-Resolve tree 2
   AS path: I

inet.3: 7 destinations, 7 routes (7 active, 0 holddown, 0 hidden)

10.10.80.2/32 (1 entry, 1 announced)
   State: FlashAll
   *LDPPreference: 9
   Next hop type: Router
   Next-hop reference count: 3
   Next hop: 10.10.81.10 via xe-0/3/0.0 weight 0x1, selected
   Label operation: Push 299776
   Next hop: 10.10.81.23 via ge-1/3/3.0 weight 0xf000 - 
Huh???
   Label operation: Push 299856
   State: Active Int
   Local AS:   855
   Age: 4  Metric: 1
   Task: LDP
   Announcement bits (2): 2-Resolve tree 1 3-Resolve tree 2
   AS path: I


I can not speak to your traceroute issue, but my understanding is that the 
next-hop 10.10.81.23 references are the alternate paths that get put in 
your routing table by the LFA algorithm.  These routes exist but only in 
stand-by mode.  So if the 10.10.81.10 next-hop ever goes away, traffic 
can immediately use this stand-by routing entry to forward the traffic 
while OSPF is recalculating new routes under the covers.  This is loosely 
analogous to how Detours work in RSVP/MPLS Fast ReRoute -- though, 
admittedly, Fast ReRoute is much more involved.  Then, once the OSPF 
recalculations are done in LFA, the routing table is updated with a new 
primary routing entry and another stand-by entry.


Therefore, LFA effectively doubles the size of your routing table to 
accommodate all of the stand-by routes.


Unless, I'm missing something, that is at least my understanding of how 
LFA actually works --- or at least how it is supposed to work.  In other 
words, per your routing table it is working as designed.  However, this 
does not necessarily mean that OSPF LFA currently solves all of the 
problems with microloops in some topologies.  If someone has a better 
explanation, I'd like to know, too.


Clarke Morledge
College of William and Mary
Information Technology - Network Engineering
Jones Hall (Room 18)
Williamsburg VA 23187
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Re: [j-nsp] OSPF LFA and LDP LSPs

2010-03-16 Thread Serge Vautour
Hello,

Thanks for your comments. I agree with your theory. It's my understanding as 
well. What I don't get is why the traceroute mpls ldp command uses both paths 
and yet traceroute ip uses 1 path. It's like the backup path is being used by 
the LDP LSP when it shouldn't be...

Serge



- Original Message 
From: Clarke Morledge chm...@wm.edu
To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Cc: Serge Vautour sergevaut...@yahoo.ca
Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 11:35:30 AM
Subject: RE: [j-nsp] OSPF LFA and LDP LSPs

Serge,

Part of what you wrote included this:

 Now I turn on OSPF LFA link-protection on the links and re-run the same 
 tests:
 
 ---
 se36...@pe1-stjhlab-re0 show route 10.10.80.2 logical-system PE10 detail
 
 inet.0: 34 destinations, 34 routes (34 active, 0 holddown, 0 hidden)
 10.10.80.2/32 (1 entry, 1 announced)
*OSPF   Preference: 10
Next hop type: Router
Next-hop reference count: 26
Next hop: 10.10.81.10 via xe-0/3/0.0 weight 0x1, selected
Next hop: 10.10.81.23 via ge-1/3/3.0 weight 0xf000   
 - Huh???
State: Active Int
Local AS:   855
Age: 4  Metric: 2
Area: 0.0.0.0
Task: OSPF
Announcement bits (3): 2-LDP 3-KRT 5-Resolve tree 2
AS path: I
 
 inet.3: 7 destinations, 7 routes (7 active, 0 holddown, 0 hidden)
 
 10.10.80.2/32 (1 entry, 1 announced)
State: FlashAll
*LDPPreference: 9
Next hop type: Router
Next-hop reference count: 3
Next hop: 10.10.81.10 via xe-0/3/0.0 weight 0x1, selected
Label operation: Push 299776
Next hop: 10.10.81.23 via ge-1/3/3.0 weight 0xf000 - 
 Huh???
Label operation: Push 299856
State: Active Int
Local AS:   855
Age: 4  Metric: 1
Task: LDP
Announcement bits (2): 2-Resolve tree 1 3-Resolve tree 2
AS path: I

I can not speak to your traceroute issue, but my understanding is that the 
next-hop 10.10.81.23 references are the alternate paths that get put in your 
routing table by the LFA algorithm.  These routes exist but only in stand-by 
mode.  So if the 10.10.81.10 next-hop ever goes away, traffic can immediately 
use this stand-by routing entry to forward the traffic while OSPF is 
recalculating new routes under the covers.  This is loosely analogous to how 
Detours work in RSVP/MPLS Fast ReRoute -- though, admittedly, Fast ReRoute is 
much more involved.  Then, once the OSPF recalculations are done in LFA, the 
routing table is updated with a new primary routing entry and another 
stand-by entry.

Therefore, LFA effectively doubles the size of your routing table to 
accommodate all of the stand-by routes.

Unless, I'm missing something, that is at least my understanding of how LFA 
actually works --- or at least how it is supposed to work.  In other words, per 
your routing table it is working as designed.  However, this does not 
necessarily mean that OSPF LFA currently solves all of the problems with 
microloops in some topologies.  If someone has a better explanation, I'd like 
to know, too.

Clarke Morledge
College of William and Mary
Information Technology - Network Engineering
Jones Hall (Room 18)
Williamsburg VA 23187



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Re: [j-nsp] OSPF LFA and LDP LSPs

2010-03-16 Thread Alex

Serge,
Do you have track-igp-metric configured under LDP? I am pretty sure it 
does not since your OSPF and LDP metrics are different but I'd like to 
confirm.
Please try to configure track-igp-metric for LDP and re-run MPLS 
traceroute.

Rgds
Alex


- Original Message - 
From: Serge Vautour sergevaut...@yahoo.ca

To: Clarke Morledge chm...@wm.edu; juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] OSPF LFA and LDP LSPs



Hello,

Thanks for your comments. I agree with your theory. It's my understanding 
as well. What I don't get is why the traceroute mpls ldp command uses 
both paths and yet traceroute ip uses 1 path. It's like the backup path 
is being used by the LDP LSP when it shouldn't be...


Serge



- Original Message 
From: Clarke Morledge chm...@wm.edu
To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Cc: Serge Vautour sergevaut...@yahoo.ca
Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 11:35:30 AM
Subject: RE: [j-nsp] OSPF LFA and LDP LSPs

Serge,

Part of what you wrote included this:

Now I turn on OSPF LFA link-protection on the links and re-run the same 
tests:


---
se36...@pe1-stjhlab-re0 show route 10.10.80.2 logical-system PE10 detail

inet.0: 34 destinations, 34 routes (34 active, 0 holddown, 0 hidden)
10.10.80.2/32 (1 entry, 1 announced)
   *OSPF   Preference: 10
   Next hop type: Router
   Next-hop reference count: 26
   Next hop: 10.10.81.10 via xe-0/3/0.0 weight 0x1, selected
   Next hop: 10.10.81.23 via ge-1/3/3.0 weight 0xf000 
- Huh???

   State: Active Int
   Local AS:   855
   Age: 4  Metric: 2
   Area: 0.0.0.0
   Task: OSPF
   Announcement bits (3): 2-LDP 3-KRT 5-Resolve tree 2
   AS path: I

inet.3: 7 destinations, 7 routes (7 active, 0 holddown, 0 hidden)

10.10.80.2/32 (1 entry, 1 announced)
   State: FlashAll
   *LDPPreference: 9
   Next hop type: Router
   Next-hop reference count: 3
   Next hop: 10.10.81.10 via xe-0/3/0.0 weight 0x1, selected
   Label operation: Push 299776
   Next hop: 10.10.81.23 via ge-1/3/3.0 weight 0xf000 
- Huh???

   Label operation: Push 299856
   State: Active Int
   Local AS:   855
   Age: 4  Metric: 1
   Task: LDP
   Announcement bits (2): 2-Resolve tree 1 3-Resolve tree 2
   AS path: I


I can not speak to your traceroute issue, but my understanding is that the 
next-hop 10.10.81.23 references are the alternate paths that get put in 
your routing table by the LFA algorithm.  These routes exist but only in 
stand-by mode.  So if the 10.10.81.10 next-hop ever goes away, traffic 
can immediately use this stand-by routing entry to forward the traffic 
while OSPF is recalculating new routes under the covers.  This is loosely 
analogous to how Detours work in RSVP/MPLS Fast ReRoute -- though, 
admittedly, Fast ReRoute is much more involved.  Then, once the OSPF 
recalculations are done in LFA, the routing table is updated with a new 
primary routing entry and another stand-by entry.


Therefore, LFA effectively doubles the size of your routing table to 
accommodate all of the stand-by routes.


Unless, I'm missing something, that is at least my understanding of how 
LFA actually works --- or at least how it is supposed to work.  In other 
words, per your routing table it is working as designed.  However, this 
does not necessarily mean that OSPF LFA currently solves all of the 
problems with microloops in some topologies.  If someone has a better 
explanation, I'd like to know, too.


Clarke Morledge
College of William and Mary
Information Technology - Network Engineering
Jones Hall (Room 18)
Williamsburg VA 23187



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Re: [j-nsp] OSPF LFA and LDP LSPs

2010-03-16 Thread Serge Vautour
Hello,

Well that command explains a few things. Thanks! I do want the LDP LSPs to 
follow the OSPF shortest path. I had never really noticed that the inet.3 table 
entries had a different metric than my inet.0 entries. That helped make the 
metrics match however I still have the same problem.

Note the matching metrics:

-
se36...@pe1-stjhlab-re0 show route 10.10.80.2 logical-system PE10 detail 

inet.0: 34 destinations, 34 routes (34 active, 0 holddown, 0 hidden)
10.10.80.2/32 (1 entry, 1 announced)
*OSPF   Preference: 10
Next hop type: Router
Next-hop reference count: 26
Next hop: 10.10.81.10 via xe-0/3/0.0 weight 0x1, selected
Next hop: 10.10.81.23 via ge-1/3/3.0 weight 0xf000
State: Active Int
Local AS:   855 
Age: 8:04   Metric: 2 
Area: 0.0.0.0
Task: OSPF
Announcement bits (3): 2-LDP 3-KRT 5-Resolve tree 2 
AS path: I

inet.3: 7 destinations, 7 routes (7 active, 0 holddown, 0 hidden)

10.10.80.2/32 (1 entry, 1 announced)
State: FlashAll
*LDPPreference: 9
Next hop type: Router
Next-hop reference count: 3
Next hop: 10.10.81.10 via xe-0/3/0.0 weight 0x1, selected
Label operation: Push 300064
Next hop: 10.10.81.23 via ge-1/3/3.0 weight 0xf000
Label operation: Push 30
State: Active Int
Local AS:   855 
Age: 8:04   Metric: 2  --- Matches inet.0
Task: LDP
Announcement bits (2): 2-Resolve tree 1 3-Resolve tree 2 
AS path: I
-

The same problem exists:


se36...@pe1-stjhlab-re0 show ldp route 10.10.80.2 logical-system PE10 
Destination Next-hop intf/lspNext-hop address
 10.10.80.2/32  xe-0/3/0.0   10.10.81.10
ge-1/3/3.0   10.10.81.23

se36...@pe1-stjhlab-re0 traceroute 10.10.80.2 no-resolve logical-system PE10 
traceroute to 10.10.80.2 (10.10.80.2), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  10.10.81.10  0.347 ms  0.268 ms  0.279 ms
 2  10.10.80.2  36.471 ms  0.480 ms  0.436 ms

se36...@pe1-stjhlab-re0 traceroute mpls ldp 10.10.80.2 no-resolve 
logical-system PE10
  Probe options: ttl 64, retries 3, wait 10, paths 16, exp 7, fanout 16

  ttlLabel  ProtocolAddress  Previous Hop Probe Status
1   300064  LDP 10.10.81.10  (null)   Success   
23  LDP 10.10.81.1   10.10.81.10  Egress

  Path 1 via xe-0/3/0.0 destination 127.0.0.64

  ttlLabel  ProtocolAddress  Previous Hop Probe Status
1   30  LDP 10.10.81.23  (null)   Success   
23  LDP 10.10.81.20  10.10.81.23  Egress

  Path 2 via ge-1/3/3.0 destination 127.0.1.64

-

Note that the LDP LSP is still taking both paths?!?

Thanks,
Serge




- Original Message 
From: Alex alex.arsen...@gmail.com
To: Serge Vautour se...@nbnet.nb.ca; juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 1:44:13 PM
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] OSPF LFA and LDP LSPs

Serge,
Do you have track-igp-metric configured under LDP? I am pretty sure it does 
not since your OSPF and LDP metrics are different but I'd like to confirm.
Please try to configure track-igp-metric for LDP and re-run MPLS traceroute.
Rgds
Alex


- Original Message - From: Serge Vautour sergevaut...@yahoo.ca
To: Clarke Morledge chm...@wm.edu; juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] OSPF LFA and LDP LSPs


 Hello,
 
 Thanks for your comments. I agree with your theory. It's my understanding as 
 well. What I don't get is why the traceroute mpls ldp command uses both 
 paths and yet traceroute ip uses 1 path. It's like the backup path is being 
 used by the LDP LSP when it shouldn't be...
 
 Serge
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Clarke Morledge chm...@wm.edu
 To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Cc: Serge Vautour sergevaut...@yahoo.ca
 Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 11:35:30 AM
 Subject: RE: [j-nsp] OSPF LFA and LDP LSPs
 
 Serge,
 
 Part of what you wrote included this:
 
 Now I turn on OSPF LFA link-protection on the links and re-run the same 
 tests:
 
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 se36...@pe1-stjhlab-re0 show route 10.10.80.2 logical-system PE10 detail
 
 inet.0: 34 destinations, 34 routes (34 active, 0 holddown, 0 hidden)
 10.10.80.2/32 (1 entry, 1 announced)
*OSPF   Preference: 10
Next hop type: Router
Next-hop reference count: 26
Next hop: 10.10.81.10 via xe-0/3/0.0 weight 0x1, selected
Next hop: 10.10.81.23 via ge-1/3/3.0 weight 0xf000