Re: [j-nsp] Uplink failure detection in EX series

2011-03-18 Thread Chen Jiang
Yes, it will come out in EX in 11.1 in Mar.

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Richard A Steenbergen 
r...@e-gerbil.netwrote:

 On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:25:59PM +0100, Tore Anderson wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'm wondering if it possible to configure something equivalent to the
  EX2500's Uplink Failure Detection on the JUNOS-based EX series
  switches? I want to designate a couple of interfaces as uplink ports,
  and if they all go down, all the other ports on the switch should be
  disabled as well.

 I think uplink failure detection is on the roadmap for 11.1, though I'm
 not sure about the EX-specificness of it.

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[j-nsp] Uplink failure detection in EX series

2011-03-15 Thread Tore Anderson
Hi,

I'm wondering if it possible to configure something equivalent to the
EX2500's Uplink Failure Detection on the JUNOS-based EX series switches?
I want to designate a couple of interfaces as uplink ports, and if they
all go down, all the other ports on the switch should be disabled as well.

I want to avoid repeats of an interesting failure I just experienced: an
EX top-of-rack switch lost both its uplinks simultaneously, most likely
due to lacpd failing to do its job - both uplinks were 802.3ad LAGs, and
rebooting the switch solved the problem in the end. In any case, since
the downstream access ports stayed up, the servers didn't fail over to
the other switch in the rack and therefore lost connectivity. So much
for redundancy... :-/

Best regards,
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Redpill Linpro AS - http://www.redpill-linpro.com
Tel: +47 21 54 41 27
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Re: [j-nsp] Uplink failure detection in EX series

2011-03-15 Thread Keegan Holley
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Tore Anderson 
tore.ander...@redpill-linpro.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm wondering if it possible to configure something equivalent to the
 EX2500's Uplink Failure Detection on the JUNOS-based EX series switches?
 I want to designate a couple of interfaces as uplink ports, and if they
 all go down, all the other ports on the switch should be disabled as well.


I'm not aware of a protocol that can shut down switchports.  There's
something in the optical world that will shut down a gig port if the sonet
links it traverses flap, but that wouldn't help here.  Op-scripts maybe?


 I want to avoid repeats of an interesting failure I just experienced: an
 EX top-of-rack switch lost both its uplinks simultaneously, most likely
 due to lacpd failing to do its job - both uplinks were 802.3ad LAGs, and
 rebooting the switch solved the problem in the end.


That sounds like a bug of some sort.  I'd probably fix it by upgrading to
code where the bug was fixed.  What code are you running?


 In any case, since
 the downstream access ports stayed up, the servers didn't fail over to
 the other switch in the rack and therefore lost connectivity. So much
 for redundancy... :-/


Maybe you can write a script that pings out periodically and fails over the
bundles if the ping fails.  Probably easier than opscripts.  If not there's
always spanning-tree. ;)



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Re: [j-nsp] Uplink failure detection in EX series

2011-03-15 Thread Tore Anderson
Hi,

* Keegan Holley

 I'm not aware of a protocol that can shut down switchports.  There's
 something in the optical world that will shut down a gig port if the
 sonet links it traverses flap, but that wouldn't help here.  Op-scripts
 maybe?

The EX2500 has the required functionality, the Cisco Nexus fabric
extenders too (or so I'm told).

 I want to avoid repeats of an interesting failure I just experienced: an
 EX top-of-rack switch lost both its uplinks simultaneously, most likely
 due to lacpd failing to do its job - both uplinks were 802.3ad LAGs, and
 rebooting the switch solved the problem in the end.
 
 
 That sounds like a bug of some sort.  I'd probably fix it by upgrading
 to code where the bug was fixed.  What code are you running?

No doubt a bug, and probably fixable by upgrading - the switch in
question was running 10.1R1.8...

However, it would be nice to have such functionality in any case. I
would not need to waste ports on dual uplinks, for example.

 Maybe you can write a script that pings out periodically and fails over
 the bundles if the ping fails.  Probably easier than opscripts.  If not
 there's always spanning-tree. ;)

I think both those approaches would cause more problems than they solve.
The Linux bonding driver actually has ping based probing functionality,
but from experience, the ping target is more likely to go down than
anything else happening (or, if it was found on the same switch, it
wouldn't help at all). And STP just terrifies me - I try to rely on it
as little as possible.

Best regards,
-- 
Tore Anderson
Redpill Linpro AS - http://www.redpill-linpro.com
Tel: +47 21 54 41 27
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Re: [j-nsp] Uplink failure detection in EX series

2011-03-15 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:25:59PM +0100, Tore Anderson wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm wondering if it possible to configure something equivalent to the 
 EX2500's Uplink Failure Detection on the JUNOS-based EX series 
 switches? I want to designate a couple of interfaces as uplink ports, 
 and if they all go down, all the other ports on the switch should be 
 disabled as well.

I think uplink failure detection is on the roadmap for 11.1, though I'm 
not sure about the EX-specificness of it.

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