Re: [j-nsp] Juniper 10G Switch Options

[Amos Rosenboim]

Hello,
We use them as L2 core for a few small ISPs (port extension for MX80 routers).
The buffers of the EX4550 are not very good.
Especially when you go from 10g to 1g.

Amos

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On 5 Jun 2015, at 08:59, Mark Tinka 
mailto:mark.ti...@seacom.mu>> wrote:



On 4/Jun/15 15:51, Raphael Mazelier wrote:


EX4550 in the other hand are not perfect, but stable and less expensive.
For aggregation swithes with only 10G ports I will go with EX4550.

We love them.

We aggregate customers on them (Layer 2 only), and can simply switch
from 1Gbps to 10Gbps just by moving optics.

What more can a guy ask for :-).

Mark.
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Re: [j-nsp] Juniper 10G Switch Options

[Mark Tinka]

On 4/Jun/15 15:51, Raphael Mazelier wrote:
>
>
> EX4550 in the other hand are not perfect, but stable and less expensive.
> For aggregation swithes with only 10G ports I will go with EX4550.

We love them.

We aggregate customers on them (Layer 2 only), and can simply switch
from 1Gbps to 10Gbps just by moving optics.

What more can a guy ask for :-).

Mark.
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Re: [j-nsp] Juniper 10G Switch Options

[Mark Tinka]

On 4/Jun/15 15:49, Giuliano (WZTECH) wrote:
> I think the better option is to use ACX5048
>
> Same qfx hardware with a different software 
>
> It will support vpls and evpn
>
> But I think you will need license for 10G interfaces and L3vpn

Broadcom chipset, however. So look out and test for any features that
would normally work on a Juniper-designed ASIC.

Mark.
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Re: [j-nsp] Juniper 10G Switch Options

[Scott Granados]

+1 for the EX 4600 or QFX 5100.  For aggregation a 4600 should do the trick.

On Jun 4, 2015, at 9:19 AM, Colton Conor  wrote:

> We need a Juniper switch with at least 24 built in SFP+ ports. Looks like
> Juniper has a ton of options including the EX4500, EX4550, EX4600, and the
> QFX line which I don't know much about. This switch will be for aggregation
> purposes for an access network that has GPON OLT's with 10G uplinks on
> them. What do you recommend? Which has the latest hardware? Which is the
> most cost effective? Any limitations to be aware of?
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Re: [j-nsp] Juniper 10G Switch Options

[Raphael Mazelier]

Le 04/06/15 15:19, Colton Conor a écrit :

We need a Juniper switch with at least 24 built in SFP+ ports. Looks like
Juniper has a ton of options including the EX4500, EX4550, EX4600, and the
QFX line which I don't know much about. This switch will be for aggregation
purposes for an access network that has GPON OLT's with 10G uplinks on
them. What do you recommend? Which has the latest hardware? Which is the
most cost effective? Any limitations to be aware of?


EX4600/QFX5100 are relatively new switchs, and use newer asics. I can 
say there were not completly bug free... But the situation is moving 
fastly and newer release fix a log of bugs. But they have 40G ports and 
higher density than EX4550.


EX4550 in the other hand are not perfect, but stable and less expensive.
For aggregation swithes with only 10G ports I will go with EX4550.

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Raphael Mazelier


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Re: [j-nsp] Juniper 10G Switch Options

[Giuliano (WZTECH)]

I think the better option is to use ACX5048

Same qfx hardware with a different software 

It will support vpls and evpn

But I think you will need license for 10G interfaces and L3vpn



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> On Jun 4, 2015, at 10:38, Tim Jackson  wrote:
> 
> It should support EVPN shortly.
> 
>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015, 6:38 AM Joe Freeman  wrote:
>> 
>> Keep in mind the QFX5100 doesn't support evpn or vpls. To do vpls right
>> now, we're having to l2vpn back to an MX tunnel interface and stitch into a
>> bridge domain. It's not pretty but so far it has worked. We've got our
>> fingers crossed that evpn is coming soon.
>> 
>> Also, the 5100's apparently aren't using ASICs, or at least aren't using
>> an ASIC on the interfaces that will support flexible-ethernet-services.
>> What this means is that I can't L2 switch a customer on the same QFX
>> interface that I'm either A) Terminating another customer at L3 (l3 vpn for
>> example), or B) Doing a vlan-ccc/l2circuit/l2vpn connection on. This means
>> there are some use cases (p2p ethernet circuits between olt's in the same
>> CO for instance) that may require more than 1 port between the QFX and the
>> olt.
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Tim Jackson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'd recommend QFX5100 or EX4600. Same hardware inside for both.
>>> 
>>> Beware that there are a few issues with DHCP and DHCPv6 pass through on
>>> them, but that seems to be resolved now.
 On Jun 4, 2015 6:22 AM, "Colton Conor"  wrote:
 
 We need a Juniper switch with at least 24 built in SFP+ ports. Looks
>>> like
 Juniper has a ton of options including the EX4500, EX4550, EX4600, and
>>> the
 QFX line which I don't know much about. This switch will be for
>>> aggregation
 purposes for an access network that has GPON OLT's with 10G uplinks on
 them. What do you recommend? Which has the latest hardware? Which is the
 most cost effective? Any limitations to be aware of?
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Re: [j-nsp] Juniper 10G Switch Options

[Tim Jackson]

It should support EVPN shortly.

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015, 6:38 AM Joe Freeman  wrote:

> Keep in mind the QFX5100 doesn't support evpn or vpls. To do vpls right
> now, we're having to l2vpn back to an MX tunnel interface and stitch into a
> bridge domain. It's not pretty but so far it has worked. We've got our
> fingers crossed that evpn is coming soon.
>
> Also, the 5100's apparently aren't using ASICs, or at least aren't using
> an ASIC on the interfaces that will support flexible-ethernet-services.
> What this means is that I can't L2 switch a customer on the same QFX
> interface that I'm either A) Terminating another customer at L3 (l3 vpn for
> example), or B) Doing a vlan-ccc/l2circuit/l2vpn connection on. This means
> there are some use cases (p2p ethernet circuits between olt's in the same
> CO for instance) that may require more than 1 port between the QFX and the
> olt.
>
> Joe
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Tim Jackson  wrote:
>
>> I'd recommend QFX5100 or EX4600. Same hardware inside for both.
>>
>> Beware that there are a few issues with DHCP and DHCPv6 pass through on
>> them, but that seems to be resolved now.
>> On Jun 4, 2015 6:22 AM, "Colton Conor"  wrote:
>>
>> > We need a Juniper switch with at least 24 built in SFP+ ports. Looks
>> like
>> > Juniper has a ton of options including the EX4500, EX4550, EX4600, and
>> the
>> > QFX line which I don't know much about. This switch will be for
>> aggregation
>> > purposes for an access network that has GPON OLT's with 10G uplinks on
>> > them. What do you recommend? Which has the latest hardware? Which is the
>> > most cost effective? Any limitations to be aware of?
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Re: [j-nsp] Juniper 10G Switch Options

[Joe Freeman]

Keep in mind the QFX5100 doesn't support evpn or vpls. To do vpls right
now, we're having to l2vpn back to an MX tunnel interface and stitch into a
bridge domain. It's not pretty but so far it has worked. We've got our
fingers crossed that evpn is coming soon.

Also, the 5100's apparently aren't using ASICs, or at least aren't using an
ASIC on the interfaces that will support flexible-ethernet-services. What
this means is that I can't L2 switch a customer on the same QFX interface
that I'm either A) Terminating another customer at L3 (l3 vpn for example),
or B) Doing a vlan-ccc/l2circuit/l2vpn connection on. This means there are
some use cases (p2p ethernet circuits between olt's in the same CO for
instance) that may require more than 1 port between the QFX and the olt.

Joe

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Tim Jackson  wrote:

> I'd recommend QFX5100 or EX4600. Same hardware inside for both.
>
> Beware that there are a few issues with DHCP and DHCPv6 pass through on
> them, but that seems to be resolved now.
> On Jun 4, 2015 6:22 AM, "Colton Conor"  wrote:
>
> > We need a Juniper switch with at least 24 built in SFP+ ports. Looks like
> > Juniper has a ton of options including the EX4500, EX4550, EX4600, and
> the
> > QFX line which I don't know much about. This switch will be for
> aggregation
> > purposes for an access network that has GPON OLT's with 10G uplinks on
> > them. What do you recommend? Which has the latest hardware? Which is the
> > most cost effective? Any limitations to be aware of?
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Re: [j-nsp] Juniper 10G Switch Options

[Tim Jackson]

I'd recommend QFX5100 or EX4600. Same hardware inside for both.

Beware that there are a few issues with DHCP and DHCPv6 pass through on
them, but that seems to be resolved now.
On Jun 4, 2015 6:22 AM, "Colton Conor"  wrote:

> We need a Juniper switch with at least 24 built in SFP+ ports. Looks like
> Juniper has a ton of options including the EX4500, EX4550, EX4600, and the
> QFX line which I don't know much about. This switch will be for aggregation
> purposes for an access network that has GPON OLT's with 10G uplinks on
> them. What do you recommend? Which has the latest hardware? Which is the
> most cost effective? Any limitations to be aware of?
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