Re: [j-nsp] upgrading an antique 240
Just in case, did you try a request system storage cleanup, before trying the recovery snapshot ? I suppose you had a look at https://kb.juniper.net/InfoCenter/index?page=content=KB33892 but it doesn't seem to match your problem, actually. What about a show chassis hardware detail | match " MB" that would show the size of the second disk? Just to check whether there's a chance to have the snapshot done on it or not :) > Le 18 juil. 2021 à 18:49, Randy Bush via juniper-nsp > a écrit : > > made it from 14.2 to 15.1 so far. a silly question. to where are folk > uploading the to-be-installed images? my old fingers want /var/tmp, but > it gets blown away. > > and there ain't a lot of space > > root@r1:/packages # df -h > Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/gpt/junos 32G1.1G 29G 4%/.mount > > r...@r1.dfw> request system snapshot recovery > Creating image ... > Compressing image ... > Image size is 905MB > ERROR: The OAM volume is too small to store a snapshot ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] upgrading an antique 240
made it from 14.2 to 15.1 so far. a silly question. to where are folk uploading the to-be-installed images? my old fingers want /var/tmp, but it gets blown away. and there ain't a lot of space root@r1:/packages # df -h Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/md0.uzip18M 18M 0B 100%/ devfs 1.0K1.0K 0B 100%/dev /dev/gpt/junos 32G1.1G 29G 4%/.mount devfs 1.0K1.0K 0B 100%/.mount/dev /dev/md1.uzip20M 20M 0B 100% /.mount/packages/mnt/os-libs-10 /dev/md2.uzip18M 18M 0B 100% /.mount/packages/mnt/os-runtime procfs 4.0K4.0K 0B 100%/.mount/proc tmpfs 5.4G 24K5.4G 0%/.mount/tmp /dev/md3.uzip 1.6M1.6M 0B 100% /.mount/packages/mnt/os-zoneinfo32-936c0ada /dev/md4.uzip12M 12M 0B 100% /.mount/packages/mnt/py-base32-4f9ea047 /dev/md5.uzip 6.9M6.9M 0B 100% /.mount/packages/mnt/os-crypto /dev/md6.uzip13M 13M 0B 100% /.mount/packages/mnt/junos-net /dev/md7.uzip43M 43M 0B 100% /.mount/packages/mnt/junos-libs /dev/md8.uzip 774M774M 0B 100% /.mount/packages/mnt/junos-runtime32-563987c0 /packages/mnt/junos-libs/lib 43M 43M 0B 100% /.mount/packages/mnt/junos-runtime32-563987c0/web-api/libs/junos /packages/mnt/os-libs-10/lib 20M 20M 0B 100% /.mount/packages/mnt/junos-runtime32-563987c0/web-api/libs/os /packages/mnt/os-runtime/libexec 18M 18M 0B 100% /.mount/packages/mnt/junos-runtime32-563987c0/web-api/libexec /packages/mnt/junos-net/lib 13M 13M 0B 100% /.mount/packages/mnt/junos-runtime32-563987c0/web-api/libs/junos-net /var/jails/rest-api 32G1.1G 29G 4% /.mount/packages/mnt/junos-runtime32-563987c0/web-api/var /dev/md9.uzip45M 45M 0B 100% /.mount/packages/mnt/junos-platform /dev/md10.uzip 15M 15M 0B 100% /.mount/packages/mnt/junos-modules32-14328689 /dev/md11.uzip 9.0M9.0M 0B 100% /.mount/packages/mnt/junos-dp-crypto-support-mtx32-78d86fe5 /dev/md12.uzip 24M 24M 0B 100% /.mount/packages/mnt/junos-daemons32-9d9ac8eb /dev/md13.uzip 74M 74M 0B 100% /.mount/packages/mnt/jpfe-common32-c6d2edf5 /dev/md14.uzip 11M 11M 0B 100% /.mount/packages/mnt/jdocs32-2e14ba29 /dev/md15.uzip 14M 14M 0B 100% /.mount/packages/mnt/fips-mode32-27bf7ed7 tmpfs 593M 17M576M 3%/.mount/mfs /dev/md16.uzip 394M394M 0B 100% /.mount/packages/mnt/jpfe-X96032-fc2c5f86 r...@r1.dfw> request system snapshot recovery Creating image ... Compressing image ... Image size is 905MB ERROR: The OAM volume is too small to store a snapshot ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] upgrading an antique 240
Randy Bush via juniper-nsp [juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net] wrote: > > is there any sw upgrade i can usefully do? I was about to try 19.4R3 on basically the same hardware, seems to work well on my MX80s and ACX2200s. ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] upgrading an antique 240
In my experience 17.3R3-Sx also works with RE-2000, original SCB-MX, and MPC line cards, although I don't know about support for DPC cards. On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 10:57:19AM -0400, Alain Hebert via juniper-nsp wrote: > Boot using a USB key and the proper image. > > junos-install-media-usb-mx-x86-32-16.2R2.8.img > > Upgraded a RE-S-2000 engine from 11.x to 16.2. > >> Good point! TSB16735 says last version of Junos to support SCB-MX960 is > >> 16.2 > >> > >>> Junos 17.3R3-S10 > >>> Junos 18.4R2-S5 > >>> Junos 19.3R3-S2 > >>> Junos 19.4R3-S3 > > so which steps to get from 14 to 16.2? 15.x 16.2? ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] upgrading an antique 240
Boot using a USB key and the proper image. junos-install-media-usb-mx-x86-32-16.2R2.8.img Upgraded a RE-S-2000 engine from 11.x to 16.2. - Alain Hebertaheb...@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. 50 boul. St-Charles P.O. Box 26770 Beaconsfield, Quebec H9W 6G7 Tel: 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.netFax: 514-990-9443 On 7/15/21 5:31 PM, David Kotlerewsky via juniper-nsp wrote: See the doc here: https://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos/information-products/topic-collections/release-notes/16.2/topic-113674.html Please note the very important info below: Support for upgrades and downgrades that span more than three Junos OS releases at a time is not provided, except for releases that are designated as Extended End-of-Life (EEOL) releases. EEOL releases provide direct upgrade and downgrade paths—you can upgrade directly from one EEOL release to the next EEOL release even though EEOL releases generally occur in increments beyond three releases. You can upgrade or downgrade to the EEOL release that occurs directly before or after the currently installed EEOL release, or to two EEOL releases before or after. For example, Junos OS Releases 14.1, 14.2, 15.1 and 16.1 are EEOL releases. You can upgrade from Junos OS Release 14.1 to Release 15.1 or even from Junos OS Release 14.1 to Release 16.1. However, you cannot upgrade directly from a non-EEOL release that is more than three releases ahead or behind. To upgrade or downgrade from a non-EEOL release to a release more than three releases before or after, first upgrade to the next EEOL release and then upgrade or downgrade from that EEOL release to your target release. For more information about EEOL releases and to review a list of EEOL releases, see https://www.juniper.net/support/eol/junos.html. Sounds like you’ll need to go to 15.1, then 16.1, then 16.2. From: Randy Bush Date: Thursday, July 15, 2021 at 1:46 PM To: David Kotlerewsky Cc: heasley , Juniper List Subject: Re: [j-nsp] upgrading an antique 240 Good point! TSB16735 says last version of Junos to support SCB-MX960 is 16.2 Junos 17.3R3-S10 Junos 18.4R2-S5 Junos 19.3R3-S2 Junos 19.4R3-S3 so which steps to get from 14 to 16.2? 15.x 16.2? randy ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] upgrading an antique 240
Hi, On 15.07.2021 22:46, Randy Bush via juniper-nsp wrote: Good point! TSB16735 says last version of Junos to support SCB-MX960 is 16.2 Junos 17.3R3-S10 Junos 18.4R2-S5 Junos 19.3R3-S2 Junos 19.4R3-S3 so which steps to get from 14 to 16.2? 15.x 16.2? https://support.juniper.net/support/eol/software/junos/ Although the last supported Release is 16.2, you might want to run 16.1$latest. It feels like 16.2 was intended to be supported longer, but "16.1R7: EOE extended to 28-Jul-2020 and EOS extended to 28-Jan-2021." So the "newest" Release is most likely 16.1 as the End of Engineering was later and therefore more fixes/changes went into that than into 16.2. End of Services was extended for 16.2 as well: "16.2: EOS extended to 01-May-2021 for T4000, TX-3D, MX240/480/960, PTX3000 and PTX5000." But end of engineering was not. And as we are past both end of services now, it might make more sense to stick with the release that got more engineering. Most of our customers still holding onto RE2000 are on 16.1 Some managed to upgrade successfully even beyond that, but its not supported and might create interesting problems. Similar to when RE1300 was not intended to go past 14.2 but would still run on 15.X an newer often :) regards Tobias ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] upgrading an antique 240
On 7/15/21 19:06, Randy Bush via juniper-nsp wrote: Limited/Unlimited depends on your geographic region and if your encryption access is limited. ahhh; still that silliness. it is in amerika. As for 64/32 bit, check what it’s running now and go from there: ‘show version | match kernel’ https://kb.juniper.net/InfoCenter/index?page=content=KB25803 r...@r1.dfw> show version | match kernel JUNOS Kernel Software Suite [14.2R7.5] so i assume 32 yeah it's 32 bit RE-S-2000-4096 is a 2ghz pentium m and afaik doesn't do 64bit. randy ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] upgrading an antique 240
--- Begin Message --- Regarding Junos Limited, it's for Juniper customers in the Eurasian Customs Union (Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, and Russia), as shown here: https://apps.juniper.net/feature-explorer/feature-info.html?fKey=7037=Limited%20encryption%20Junos%20image%20(%E2%80%9CJunos%20Limited%E2%80%9D)%20created%20for%20customers%20in%20Armenia,%20Belarus,%20Kazakhstan,%20Kyrgyzstan,%20and%20Russia This KB has info specific to MX240: https://kb.juniper.net/InfoCenter/index?page=content=TSB16869 ~Seth On 7/15/21, 7:09 PM, "juniper-nsp on behalf of Randy Bush via juniper-nsp" wrote: [External Email. Be cautious of content] > Limited/Unlimited depends on your geographic region and if your > encryption access is limited. ahhh; still that silliness. it is in amerika. > As for 64/32 bit, check what it¢s running now and go from there: > > ¡show version | match kernel¢ > https://kb.juniper.net/InfoCenter/index?page=content=KB25803 r...@r1.dfw> show version | match kernel JUNOS Kernel Software Suite [14.2R7.5] so i assume 32 randy ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!Xvj8cd-aS-qBqrXQwRsAyecYzpyr-2014p0Dpi7-tMNvxd8YMFaEWruzZ3nPoQ$ Juniper Business Use Only --- End Message --- ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] upgrading an antique 240
> Limited/Unlimited depends on your geographic region and if your > encryption access is limited. ahhh; still that silliness. it is in amerika. > As for 64/32 bit, check what it’s running now and go from there: > > ‘show version | match kernel’ > https://kb.juniper.net/InfoCenter/index?page=content=KB25803 r...@r1.dfw> show version | match kernel JUNOS Kernel Software Suite [14.2R7.5] so i assume 32 randy ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] upgrading an antique 240
Limited/Unlimited depends on your geographic region and if your encryption access is limited. As for 64/32 bit, check what it’s running now and go from there: ‘show version | match kernel’ https://kb.juniper.net/InfoCenter/index?page=content=KB25803 > On Jul 15, 2021, at 18:50, Randy Bush via juniper-nsp > wrote: > > >> >> Sounds like you’ll need to go to 15.1, then 16.1, then 16.2. > > looking at the first step, 15.1, > https://support.juniper.net/support/downloads/?f=mx > do i want the 32-bit or 64-bit, Limited or Unlimited? considering where > i want to go, wazza diff? > > randy > ___ > juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] upgrading an antique 240
> Sounds like you’ll need to go to 15.1, then 16.1, then 16.2. looking at the first step, 15.1, https://support.juniper.net/support/downloads/?f=mx do i want the 32-bit or 64-bit, Limited or Unlimited? considering where i want to go, wazza diff? randy ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] upgrading an antique 240
See the doc here: https://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos/information-products/topic-collections/release-notes/16.2/topic-113674.html Please note the very important info below: Support for upgrades and downgrades that span more than three Junos OS releases at a time is not provided, except for releases that are designated as Extended End-of-Life (EEOL) releases. EEOL releases provide direct upgrade and downgrade paths—you can upgrade directly from one EEOL release to the next EEOL release even though EEOL releases generally occur in increments beyond three releases. You can upgrade or downgrade to the EEOL release that occurs directly before or after the currently installed EEOL release, or to two EEOL releases before or after. For example, Junos OS Releases 14.1, 14.2, 15.1 and 16.1 are EEOL releases. You can upgrade from Junos OS Release 14.1 to Release 15.1 or even from Junos OS Release 14.1 to Release 16.1. However, you cannot upgrade directly from a non-EEOL release that is more than three releases ahead or behind. To upgrade or downgrade from a non-EEOL release to a release more than three releases before or after, first upgrade to the next EEOL release and then upgrade or downgrade from that EEOL release to your target release. For more information about EEOL releases and to review a list of EEOL releases, see https://www.juniper.net/support/eol/junos.html. Sounds like you’ll need to go to 15.1, then 16.1, then 16.2. From: Randy Bush Date: Thursday, July 15, 2021 at 1:46 PM To: David Kotlerewsky Cc: heasley , Juniper List Subject: Re: [j-nsp] upgrading an antique 240 > Good point! TSB16735 says last version of Junos to support SCB-MX960 is 16.2 > >> Junos 17.3R3-S10 >> Junos 18.4R2-S5 >> Junos 19.3R3-S2 >> Junos 19.4R3-S3 so which steps to get from 14 to 16.2? 15.x 16.2? randy ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] upgrading an antique 240
> Good point! TSB16735 says last version of Junos to support SCB-MX960 is 16.2 > >> Junos 17.3R3-S10 >> Junos 18.4R2-S5 >> Junos 19.3R3-S2 >> Junos 19.4R3-S3 so which steps to get from 14 to 16.2? 15.x 16.2? randy ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] upgrading an antique 240
Good point! TSB16735 says last version of Junos to support SCB-MX960 is 16.2 From: heasley Date: Thursday, July 15, 2021 at 1:33 PM To: David Kotlerewsky Cc: Randy Bush , Juniper List Subject: Re: [j-nsp] upgrading an antique 240 Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 08:24:08PM +, David Kotlerewsky via juniper-nsp: > Juniper’s KB21476 says they recommend the below Junos versions for the > original boxes as of 6/1/2021. Given that you are running 14.2, you’d > probably have to do a couple of interim upgrades to get to the list below. I > would refer to the release notes just to be sure. Unfortunately this is not a > -BP chassis with enhanced midplane connectors, so the switch card upgrade for > this chassis is non-existent to the latest, but it’s still a heck of a > platform! > > Junos 17.3R3-S10 > Junos 18.4R2-S5 > Junos 19.3R3-S2 > Junos 19.4R3-S3 are you sure that this SCB model (the original) is supported past junos 14? the compatibility matrix seemed to imply SCB-E is the minimum, but that might be due to an EoL. > Item Version Part number Serial number Description > ChassisJN11ADDA1AFC MX240 > Midplane REV 07 760-021404 ABAB0443 MX240 Backplane > FPM BoardREV 03 760-021392 ABBD9880 Front Panel > Display > PEM 0Rev 01 740-022697 QCS1012C070 PS 1.2-1.7kW; > 100-240V AC in > PEM 2Rev 01 740-022697 QCS1012C03K PS 1.2-1.7kW; > 100-240V AC in > Routing Engine 0 REV 12 740-013063 9012001212RE-S-2000 > CB 0 REV 07 710-021523 ABBE0591 MX SCB > FPC 2REV 29 750-016670 ABBB5551 DPCE 40x 1GE R EQ > CPUREV 07 710-013713 ABBB5624 DPC PMB > PIC 0 BUILTIN BUILTIN 10x 1GE(LAN) EQ > PIC 1 BUILTIN BUILTIN 10x 1GE(LAN) EQ > PIC 2 BUILTIN BUILTIN 10x 1GE(LAN) EQ > Xcvr 0 REV 01 740-013111 8511738 SFP-T > Xcvr 1 REV 01 740-013111 8511646 SFP-T > Xcvr 2 REV 01 740-013111 9056773 SFP-T > Xcvr 5 REV 01 740-011613 PFF2BX7 SFP-SX > Xcvr 6 REV 01 740-011613 PFF2KB2 SFP-SX > PIC 3 BUILTIN BUILTIN 10x 1GE(LAN) EQ > Fan Tray 0 REV 01 710-030216 XV8505Enhanced Fan Tray ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] upgrading an antique 240
Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 08:24:08PM +, David Kotlerewsky via juniper-nsp: > Juniper’s KB21476 says they recommend the below Junos versions for the > original boxes as of 6/1/2021. Given that you are running 14.2, you’d > probably have to do a couple of interim upgrades to get to the list below. I > would refer to the release notes just to be sure. Unfortunately this is not a > -BP chassis with enhanced midplane connectors, so the switch card upgrade for > this chassis is non-existent to the latest, but it’s still a heck of a > platform! > > Junos 17.3R3-S10 > Junos 18.4R2-S5 > Junos 19.3R3-S2 > Junos 19.4R3-S3 are you sure that this SCB model (the original) is supported past junos 14? the compatibility matrix seemed to imply SCB-E is the minimum, but that might be due to an EoL. > Item Version Part number Serial number Description > ChassisJN11ADDA1AFC MX240 > Midplane REV 07 760-021404 ABAB0443 MX240 Backplane > FPM BoardREV 03 760-021392 ABBD9880 Front Panel > Display > PEM 0Rev 01 740-022697 QCS1012C070 PS 1.2-1.7kW; > 100-240V AC in > PEM 2Rev 01 740-022697 QCS1012C03K PS 1.2-1.7kW; > 100-240V AC in > Routing Engine 0 REV 12 740-013063 9012001212RE-S-2000 > CB 0 REV 07 710-021523 ABBE0591 MX SCB > FPC 2REV 29 750-016670 ABBB5551 DPCE 40x 1GE R EQ > CPUREV 07 710-013713 ABBB5624 DPC PMB > PIC 0 BUILTIN BUILTIN 10x 1GE(LAN) EQ > PIC 1 BUILTIN BUILTIN 10x 1GE(LAN) EQ > PIC 2 BUILTIN BUILTIN 10x 1GE(LAN) EQ > Xcvr 0 REV 01 740-013111 8511738 SFP-T > Xcvr 1 REV 01 740-013111 8511646 SFP-T > Xcvr 2 REV 01 740-013111 9056773 SFP-T > Xcvr 5 REV 01 740-011613 PFF2BX7 SFP-SX > Xcvr 6 REV 01 740-011613 PFF2KB2 SFP-SX > PIC 3 BUILTIN BUILTIN 10x 1GE(LAN) EQ > Fan Tray 0 REV 01 710-030216 XV8505Enhanced Fan Tray ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
Re: [j-nsp] upgrading an antique 240
Juniper’s KB21476 says they recommend the below Junos versions for the original boxes as of 6/1/2021. Given that you are running 14.2, you’d probably have to do a couple of interim upgrades to get to the list below. I would refer to the release notes just to be sure. Unfortunately this is not a -BP chassis with enhanced midplane connectors, so the switch card upgrade for this chassis is non-existent to the latest, but it’s still a heck of a platform! Junos 17.3R3-S10 Junos 18.4R2-S5 Junos 19.3R3-S2 Junos 19.4R3-S3 From: juniper-nsp on behalf of Randy Bush via juniper-nsp Date: Thursday, July 15, 2021 at 1:17 PM To: Juniper List Subject: [j-nsp] upgrading an antique 240 given Item Version Part number Serial number Description ChassisJN11ADDA1AFC MX240 Midplane REV 07 760-021404 ABAB0443 MX240 Backplane FPM BoardREV 03 760-021392 ABBD9880 Front Panel Display PEM 0Rev 01 740-022697 QCS1012C070 PS 1.2-1.7kW; 100-240V AC in PEM 2Rev 01 740-022697 QCS1012C03K PS 1.2-1.7kW; 100-240V AC in Routing Engine 0 REV 12 740-013063 9012001212RE-S-2000 CB 0 REV 07 710-021523 ABBE0591 MX SCB FPC 2REV 29 750-016670 ABBB5551 DPCE 40x 1GE R EQ CPUREV 07 710-013713 ABBB5624 DPC PMB PIC 0 BUILTIN BUILTIN 10x 1GE(LAN) EQ PIC 1 BUILTIN BUILTIN 10x 1GE(LAN) EQ PIC 2 BUILTIN BUILTIN 10x 1GE(LAN) EQ Xcvr 0 REV 01 740-013111 8511738 SFP-T Xcvr 1 REV 01 740-013111 8511646 SFP-T Xcvr 2 REV 01 740-013111 9056773 SFP-T Xcvr 5 REV 01 740-011613 PFF2BX7 SFP-SX Xcvr 6 REV 01 740-011613 PFF2KB2 SFP-SX PIC 3 BUILTIN BUILTIN 10x 1GE(LAN) EQ Fan Tray 0 REV 01 710-030216 XV8505Enhanced Fan Tray running Model: mx240 Junos: 14.2R7.5 JUNOS Base OS boot [14.2R7.5] JUNOS Base OS Software Suite [14.2R7.5] JUNOS platform Software Suite [14.2R7.5] JUNOS Web Management [14.2R7.5] JUNOS Runtime Software Suite [14.2R7.5] JUNOS Online Documentation [14.2R7.5] JUNOS Services AACL Container package [14.2R7.5] ... is there any sw upgrade i can usefully do? randy ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp ___ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp