Re: [k-9-mail] Printing Gmail from Cloud Print Plus

[Dennis Rockwell]

On November 13, 2016 4:21:50 PM EST, James Wise  wrote:
> When I select 'Mail' from the Web category of Cloud Print Plus, I am
> taken 
> to an information screen about printing with K9. The bottom of the
> screen 
> says "..in order to print emails you need to open a message in K9
> click 
> "Menu" and choose "More", the you should choose "Share", and then
> "Cloud 
> Print"
> 
> When I open a message in K9, I cannot find the "Menu" option, which
> means I 
> cannot follow the steps to chose More, Share, and Cloud Print.  What
> am I 
> missing?  K9 seems to function fine otherwise. I have a Galaxy Note 4 
> running Android 6.0.1. K-9 is version 5.010.
> 
> Thank you.
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The three dots in the upper right are the menu button, unless perhaps your 
device has a hardware menu button. Tap that, then Send, then Share.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Empty Trash - confirm

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On August 8, 2016 1:43:47 PM EDT, Edward Hibbert  wrote:
> K-9 is fab.  Thanks.
> 
> The empty trash option is just next to the send messages option, which
> I 
> frequently use when on an unreliable network.  Because of this and my
> fat 
> fingers, I have accidentally emptied the trash and lost messages
> (several 
> years' worth, the first time).
> 
> Could we have a confirm on the empty trash option?
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I'm not trying to be obnoxious here, but why put messages that you want to keep 
into the trash in the first place? Trash is for messages you never want to see 
again.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] how to remove a job from the queue?

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On July 4, 2016 3:43:50 AM EDT, Pierre Frenkiel  
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> hi,
> I tried, by mistake, to send a video file, which was obviously too big
> to be sent by mail. The problem is that now, I get every minute an
> error
> notification, and I can't get rid of it.
> I can't imagine that it is not possible to remove such a job from the
> queue, but I couldn't find how to do that.
> 
> best regards,

Delete the message from the folder named "outbox".

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] settings option not displayed on Samsung Note Tab 10.1 (2014)

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On February 14, 2016 10:03:03 AM EST, Alan Ferdman  
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> Hello Dennis,
> 
> Forgive me but I've just searched the web and it says the hardware
> menu
> button is obsolete since Android 2.3? Can I still find this ? As you
> and
> Richard have hinted it's a just this single feature that's missing on
> my
> Tablet 10.1 , it's visible on my phone and and Nexus 7. Attached is a
> screenshot captured from the screen on my Samsung 10.1 2014 running
> 5.1.1.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> 
> Alan
> 
> On 14 February 2016 at 13:59, Dennis Rockwell 
> wrote:
> 
> > On February 13, 2016 12:14:16 PM EST, Alan Ferdman
> 
> > wrote:
> > > Hello Richard,
> > >
> > > That's absolutely correct I can't see three vertical dots  so
> can't
> > > access
> > > the settings in order to change anything.
> > On Samsung devices, there's a hardware menu button, so Android
> doesn't
> > show the three dots to save space in the bar. Tap your hardware menu
> button
> > and see what happens.
> >
> > Dennis
> >
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Yes, Android wants it to be obsolete, but many devices still have them, like 
all of my Samsung devices.

However, I can't see any hint of one on Samsung's web pages, so perhaps they've 
caught up.  The 7" tablet I got as a bank promotional recently had one, so I 
assumed yours did too.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] settings option not displayed on Samsung Note Tab 10.1 (2014)

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On February 13, 2016 12:14:16 PM EST, Alan Ferdman  
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> Hello Richard,
> 
> That's absolutely correct I can't see three vertical dots  so can't
> access
> the settings in order to change anything.
On Samsung devices, there's a hardware menu button, so Android doesn't show the 
three dots to save space in the bar. Tap your hardware menu button and see what 
happens.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Backup the K9 mail POP3 data

[Dennis Rockwell]

On 08/27/2015 06:13 PM, GlueFactoryBJJ wrote:
I agree.  I have a Samsung Note *2* that I have been unable to upgrade 
because I have (some VERY old) POP3 emails that I HAVE to have (work 
and my hosting company which doesn't support IMAP and cannot switch 
right now for various reasons) among 3 different POP3 accounts.


Frankly, it is BEYOND my ability to understand why K-9 Mail doesn't 
have a backup option for both settings AND data (emails).  This 
feature has been asked for by users (on various forums) since at least 
2009 and is an extraordinarily reasonable request!  Surely, with 5-10 
million users (per Google Play Store) K-9 Mail can make this a bit of 
a priority.


This answers both the above email and your direct reply, since the 
answers are very connected.


I use IMAP for all of my accounts; I dumped Earthlink maybe six years 
ago because they didn't offer IMAP until this year.  So, adding a new 
device means just transferring the settings (via google drive for me), 
then letting K9 download the messages in the folders I choose; K9 
currently takes about 500MB of storage.  I'd be terrified if my only 
copy of precious email was on a portable (loseable, stealable, 
breakable) device.


Are your emails stored locally, or on your POP servers?  If they're 
still on the servers, you can fire up a thick email client on a PC, 
something like Thunderbird, and pull down copies.  Thunderbird (at 
least) stores its mail in easily-readable flat files instead of a database.


If your email is all on your device, I'd suggest that you make an IMAP 
account on some provider (there have been lots of discussions here about 
which; I just use gmail, but I know that's not acceptable for 
everybody), and use the 'Forward' command to get (mangled, but readable) 
copies off your device.  There are some hackerish ways of clearing off 
the forwarding crap, but that involves programming, or at least 
familiarity with MH or similar software packages and some scripting.


Mailers used to support a feature like 'Forward', called 'Resend', which 
didn't mangle the message being sent; I used that to get decades of my 
old email off of my work computer (BSD Unix) up to gmail when I 
converted from desktop storage.


Also, gmail will happily poll POP accounts for you; perhaps others will, 
too.  I still get some of my email through Earthlink that way.


As a last resort, if your device is rooted, you can copy off the 
database files and use a desktop version of the database software to 
read them.  When I was using a rooted device, I used an Android-native 
database browser to investigate K9's message storage.  It wasn't simple, 
but it wasn't completely opaque, either, and I'm not a database wonk.


But really, get the emails off your too-fragile device into an IMAP 
server where you can manage them properly!


Good luck!  If you feel like hacking Thunderbird email files, I'll 
gladly chip in.


Dennis

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[k-9-mail] Backup/restore issues

[Dennis Rockwell]

I just transferred K9 to a new device, and used backup and restore and had the 
following issues:

Some folders had the wrong "show in top group" setting.

The order of accounts was not preserved.

The number of preview lines was not preserved.

More if I find any.

Same K9 version (5.107), both devices are gen 1 Nexus 7, old Android 
5.1.1Lollipop, new device 4.4.3.  Performance issues (of everything) drove me 
to downgrade.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] word document attachment coming in as webmail.dat

[Dennis Rockwell]

On 05/12/2015 06:09 PM, Cindy wrote:
I do a lot of MS word documents/contracts on my computer to send to 
clients.  I always send myself a copy of it too.  So when it is coming 
from me, to me, I can guarantee it is leaving as a .doc, and it comes 
back as a .doc online but on my phone it comes in as a winmail.dat.


As a doc online how?  A Microsoft email application, perhaps?  What does 
a webmail interface show you?


A Microsoft app will show you a winmail.dat as a doc file.

 I used to be able to open and read my own .doc contracts on my phone 
but it changed a while back (can't tell you the exact date it changed) 
but something has changed with k9 to cause this problem since the 
document is fine out on the web and when it comes into my desktop.


Your Microsoft desktop?  On the web as viewed via Outlook?

Microsoft has a long history of creating applications that violate 
standards (they do NOT write the standards, the code they write is NOT 
gospel) and hiding that from the users.


Since k9 used to be able to open these just fine, I know that they 
should be able to fix whatever is causing the problem now.


I can confidently assure you that the K-9 developers (I'm NOT one of 
them) have no interest in writing and maintaining the code for 
converting a .doc to a winmail.dat.


Even if no one has the answer at present, k9 needs to look into 
changes they have made that might be causing the issue and fix it back 
to the way it was.  Are the k9 coders reading these posts to know of 
the problem?


Please email me a doc file and cc yourself.  I will look at it via 
gmail's web interface (chrome and firefox on Linux), K-9 (Android 4.4.2 
and 5.1.1), and Thunderbird on Linux.  I promise to be honest about what 
I see.


Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Deleting messages not functioning properly

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On May 10, 2015 5:55:37 AM EDT, Pete  wrote:
> Hi K-9-mail,
> 
> I have noticed just lately that if I select multiple e-mails and hit
> the delete icon not all of them are actually deleted, but if I
> re-select them or the ones that still remain and hit the delete icon
> they disappear from the screen into the trash folder I am assuming.
They do get deleted eventually. I suspect that if a background fetch or other 
processing is going on (note the unintelligible mumbling in the header), delete 
is taken care of later. Also, if you hit it just right, you'll get a No Text 
and have to back up to the folder and pick another message to display; you 
can't navigate back or forward out of that state.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Selecting multiple emails crash

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On 05/07/2015 05:21 AM, David Lindner wrote:

Hello
When I select multiple emails so I can delete them k9 mail crashes. I'm running 
Android v5.1.1


That bug was fixed months ago.  Download new version from here 
, or Play Store.


Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Lollipop Problem

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On May 5, 2015 6:24:03 PM EDT, Voytek  wrote:
> Also, thanks from me.

Yep, two days and no recurrence.  Well done!

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Account setup

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On April 12, 2015 8:52:45 AM EDT, Lou alessio  wrote:
> On my Galaxy phone how do I go to acount setup section to add a new
> account?
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Tap the K-9 icon in the upper left until the view doesn't change.  There will 
be a big plus sign at the top or bottom.  Tap that.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Import existing gmail folders

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On 03/30/2015 01:40 PM, Martin Lambert wrote:

Hi
K9 noob here.

I have k9mail installed on my Galaxy Note 10.1 running Android 4.1.2 (rooted) 
and k9 works just fine!
Is there a method to import existing gmail folders to k9mail?
I have researched the k9 app, the wiki and this blog; to no avail.


When looking at the folders for the gmail account, tap menu/Refresh 
folder list.  Any missing folders should show up.


Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Adding another email account

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On 03/26/2015 12:36 PM, Alan Hayward wrote:
I am a new K9 user with a Sony Xperia M2.mobile. How do I add another- 
additional - email account? I can find no way in the limited menus and 
there is no separate '+' sign on the home screen.


Tap the K-9 logo in the upper left as long as it has a < next to it.  
This screen will be labeled "Accounts" and will have a big + somewhere, 
top or bottom depending on the device.  Tap that.


Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Lollipop 5.1 crash

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On March 13, 2015 9:23:42 PM EDT, Dennis Rockwell  wrote:
 
> Another symptom that arose with 5.1 is that the message formatting
> isn't working quite right;I see lots of = and other encoding artifacts
> in messages.

5.105 fixed this as well, after clearing and reloading.

Thanks for the quick attention!

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Lollipop 5.1 crash

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On March 13, 2015 2:32:04 PM EDT, Dennis Rockwell  wrote:
> On 03/13/2015 11:39 AM, Richard wrote:
> >
> >  Original Message 
> >> Date: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:21:59 +0100
> >> From: cketti 
> >> To: k-9-mail@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: [k-9-mail] Lollipop 5.1 crash
> >>
> >> A fixed version is available here:
> >> https://github.com/k9mail/k-9/releases/tag/5.003
> >>
> >> It will take some hours for the fixed version to show up in Google
> >> Play.
> >
> > I updated K-9 on my Nexus-7[2012]/Android 5.1 tablet to the just
> > released 5.104 (alpha) -- from .103 (alpha) -- and am still getting
> > a crash on the message list "select all" (which the change log
> > indicates should be resolved).
> 
> Confirm.  Same hardware, software, and symptom.  Selecting messages
> one 
> at a time (selecting many messages by tapping each one) works.
> 
> Dennis

Another symptom that arose with 5.1 is that the message formatting isn't 
working quite right;I see lots of = and other encoding artifacts in messages.

Dennis

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Lollipop 5.1 crash

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On 03/13/2015 11:39 AM, Richard wrote:


 Original Message 

Date: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:21:59 +0100
From: cketti 
To: k-9-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [k-9-mail] Lollipop 5.1 crash

A fixed version is available here:
https://github.com/k9mail/k-9/releases/tag/5.003

It will take some hours for the fixed version to show up in Google
Play.


I updated K-9 on my Nexus-7[2012]/Android 5.1 tablet to the just
released 5.104 (alpha) -- from .103 (alpha) -- and am still getting
a crash on the message list "select all" (which the change log
indicates should be resolved).


Confirm.  Same hardware, software, and symptom.  Selecting messages one 
at a time (selecting many messages by tapping each one) works.


Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] frustrating display bug

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On 03/13/2015 11:40 AM, Matt Price wrote:
I have been experiencing a frustrating bug, in which the body of some 
messages does not display at all when I click on them. If I navigate 
away and then come back 3 or 4 times in a row, the message will then 
sometimes appear. Other times I remain unable to get the message to 
display.


I know that the message has been fully downloaded, because the 
notification contains a couple of lines of content. But I am unable to 
read it in the k-9 app.


Has anyone had a similar problem, and can you offer advice on how to 
fix it? I should also say that I have not been able to identify any 
patterns as to which messages exhibit this problem -- many message 
display perfectly well.


I think I'm seeing the same thing, and it's been briefly discussed 
here.  Try rotating your device, or pinch-zooming the message.  If that 
shows the content, I've been seeing it for quite some time.


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Re: [k-9-mail] Lollipop 5.1 crash

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On 03/13/2015 07:21 AM, cketti wrote:

A fixed version is available here:
https://github.com/k9mail/k-9/releases/tag/5.003

It will take some hours for the fixed version to show up in Google Play.


Thanks for this and for v5.104, which also works much better!

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Re: [k-9-mail] Selecting phone software on number click

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On February 19, 2015 4:14:37 AM EST, Carsten Kvist  wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I have a problem.
> 
> Om my phone, i have both the 'normal' phone, and a softphone.
> 
> When i click a number in a mail, it starts the normal phone, and
> enteres 
> the number. GREAT, but how do i get to choose the softphone?
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The way it's supposed to work is that you clear the app's defaults in the app 
manager, and from them on, Android should ask the "open with" question when you 
tap a phone number.  Just never ever tap the "always" selection, or you'll have 
to go clear the default again.

I haven't tried it with a phone number.

Is there a URI scheme like mailto for phone numbers? I'd hope that uses the 
same mechanism.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Trash and [imap]/Trash - help sought

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On January 29, 2015 5:39:22 AM EST, caspertone2...@gmail.com wrote:
> HI!
> I am trying to use K-9 and gmail (IMAP)
> 
> Seems that all goes fine, but only I am unable to make k-9 to use the 
> normal trash in gmail, it is always creating another one in gmail
> called 
> [imap]/trash ; same happens with draft.
> 
> I tried in account settings / fetching mail / incoming server both
> with and 
> without Auto-detect IMAP namespace; without and with a IMAP path
> prefix; 
> Always check in account settings / folders / trash that it points to
> trash  (it never shows [imap]/trash or [gmail]/trash, just trash).
account settings/folders is where you *tell* k-9 which folders to use.  It 
doesn't pick the right settings for gmail (I don't know why).  Set trash, 
drafts, spam to [gmail]/ whatever and it will work fine. Just tap the 
designation and pick the folder you want.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Cannot create a second email account.

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On January 27, 2015 12:37:01 PM EST, Failover Cluster 
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> Hello,
> I installed K9-Mail and create a first e-mail account easily.
> But now I can't create a second e-mail account :-(
> Is there anybody who knows how to do it ?
> Thank's
> FailOverCluster
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Tap the k-9 in the upper left until you get to the accounts listing, then tap 
the plus sign.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Move / Rearrange Buttons

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On 01/08/2015 04:21 PM, Bill Phillips wrote:

Is it possible to rearrange the buttons at the bottom? I use delete button 
mostly and on a large phone,  it's hard to reach.


I want Android to be able to put the buttons back on the bottom of my 
Nexus 7 screen, like my phone does.  Then I could read and dispose of 
email one-handed.  Now I have to either use both hands or keep shifting 
my hold up and down.


Somebody in the Android design department thinks that tablets hold 
themselves up somehow, and the top of the screen is closer to our hands.


Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Problem reading bodies

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On 01/02/2015 05:36 PM, Dennis Rockwell wrote:

On January 1, 2015 4:47:58 PM EST, Peter Holsberg  wrote:

I have 5.002 on a Nexus 7 running Lollipop.

Sometimes the message body appears to be blank, but if I switch
themes,
I can read it. Is a lollipop bug or a k-9 bug?

Thanks.

Happens to me, too.  I fiddled with settings that might have affected it, no 
joy.  Message displays if I pinch-to-zoom, or if I rotate the device.  Not 
consistent, if I tap the arrow buttons to show another message, then again to 
come back, the message usually shows.

The message is often not completely blank, but shows a pixel or two at the top 
of the display space.

K-9 5.103, Nexus 7, I unrooted Android 5.0.  It started with the Lollipop 
up(?)grade.


My Nexus 7 got upgraded to 5.0.2 late yesterday, and I think it's even 
worse.  Overall performance has improved, but no help with this issue.


Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Error - Unknown error code during application install: "-505"

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On January 3, 2015 4:54:01 AM EST, Tanstaafl  wrote:
> Got this error when auto update attempted to update to 5.0.2
> 
> Exported my settings so I could uninstall/reinstall
> 
> Uninstalled
> 
> Now getting the exact same error when attempting to install
> 
> Now I have no K-9 Mail...
> 
> Anyone have any clues???
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Charles

Go to the download page https://github.com/k9mail/k-9/releases and download an 
earlier version until the devs fix it.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Problem reading bodies

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On January 1, 2015 4:47:58 PM EST, Peter Holsberg  wrote:
> I have 5.002 on a Nexus 7 running Lollipop.
> 
> Sometimes the message body appears to be blank, but if I switch
> themes,
> I can read it. Is a lollipop bug or a k-9 bug?
> 
> Thanks.

Happens to me, too.  I fiddled with settings that might have affected it, no 
joy.  Message displays if I pinch-to-zoom, or if I rotate the device.  Not 
consistent, if I tap the arrow buttons to show another message, then again to 
come back, the message usually shows.

The message is often not completely blank, but shows a pixel or two at the top 
of the display space.

K-9 5.103, Nexus 7, I unrooted Android 5.0.  It started with the Lollipop 
up(?)grade.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Certificate error after last update

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On 09/26/2014 12:47 PM, Nuno Romao wrote:
After the last update I’m getting a certificate error on a mail 
account that hasn't changed.


The cert handling has changed.  Go into Account Settings/Sending 
mail/Outgoing server and tap 'next', and accept the cert offered.


Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Extremely slow to bring up a folder list

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On September 15, 2014 9:09:29 PM EDT, "John F. Eldredge"  
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> I am currently using K-9 version 4.8.0.4. When I click the folder icon
> to bring up a list of folders, in order to refile a message, it takes
> anywhere from five seconds to three minutes to bring up the list. The
> average time is about one minute. [ ... ]
Sorry, John, but my folder list comes up essentially instantaneously, and 
that's several hundred folders, three decades of email...

Older, slower, smaller devices were all faster than you describe.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] does not print to HP printer

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On September 16, 2014 1:21:49 AM EDT, RANDY R  wrote:
> No support huh.

With Android, printing is done via sharing.  Can anything on your device share 
to your printer?

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Return to 'Accounts ' problem

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On August 5, 2014 12:30:52 AM EDT, Li Ming  wrote:
> Why it need to type two times instead of back direct to 'Accounts'? 
> 
> On Monday, August 4, 2014 8:57:58 AM UTC-5, Dennis Rockwell wrote:
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> > On August 3, 2014 5:36:18 PM EDT, Li Ming  > 
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> >> I click the k-9 icon at left top, it will pop up a 'folds' menu,
> how to 
> >> let it going direct to the 'accounts' menu?
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> > Tap the icon again to get to the Accounts list.
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So you can get to both pages, or am I missing something?

I have five accounts and lots of folders, having separate pages makes sense.

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Re: [k-9-mail] Return to 'Accounts ' problem

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On August 3, 2014 5:36:18 PM EDT, Li Ming  wrote:
> I click the k-9 icon at left top, it will pop up a 'folds' menu, how
> to let 
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Tap the icon again to get to the Accounts list.

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Re: [k-9-mail] ot: testing smtp 587?

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On July 28, 2014 7:40:07 AM EDT, Voytek  wrote:
> I am currently traveling, using cell data and Wi-Fi as available,
> whenever I wish to send some photos, I try to use (free) Wi-Fi to save
> my prepaid cell data, it seems some Wi-Fi points do not allow access
> on port 587, so, my emails stay in out basket, then get sent on cell
> data, so, an of topic question:
> 
> Is there some way to easily test port 587 availability?
> 
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Not trivially. Since the block is external, an app would have to attempt it, 
then diagnose the problem.

K-9 isn't good at displaying its issues regarding network troubles. Can you see 
a diagnostic that's helpful?

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Re: [k-9-mail] Listing messages

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On July 27, 2014 2:24:22 AM EDT, Peter Archdale  wrote:
> Can anyone tell me how to list received messages by date order in my
> Inbox 
> (Unified or otherwise)? Something has changed and I am now seeing the 
> messages in some random order that I can't figure out, so am missing
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On the message list screen, tap the stacked lines icon and pick the sort order 
you want.

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Re: [k-9-mail] Export E-Mail to PDF-file e.g. for printing

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On 07/21/2014 01:59 PM, BigBad VooDoo wrote:

Hey, I would find such a function very useful ;)


It would appear that Google Cloud Print can save anything to a PDF file 
on Google Drive.  I haven't tried it myself.


Of course, you have to be immersed in Google...

I think that there was a share target that would convert to PDF, but I 
can't find it now.  Perhaps I'm just thinking of the Windoze app that 
mimicked a printer.


Let's Print PDF 
 
appears to do the job, but I haven't tried that, either.


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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: How to delete Galaxy S4 default email app so i can use K-9

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On July 2, 2014 7:33:58 PM EDT, Starlite-Sydneybi  
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> It is now not showing the icon in those areas but still on the Home
> Screen although seems not to be downloading mail, although K-9 still is.
> 
> Any ideas how to get it off the screen altogether please?

Can't you remove it from the home screen the same way you'd remove anything 
else?  It varies, but try a long-press and drag to the trash can.

You generally can't outright uninstall built-in bloatware.

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Re: [k-9-mail] How to delete Galaxy S4 default email app so i can use K-9

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On July 2, 2014 6:26:38 AM EDT, David Rix  wrote:
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> I want to delete the standard email app from the phone. How can I do
> this without losing my K-9.

In the system settings/apps (or app manager), you can often tap disable.  It 
will generally ask if you want to uninstall updates, then let you disable it.  
You can then delete its data, too.

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Re: [k-9-mail] k9 notifications and rich notifications on Android 4.4 Galaxy Tab S

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On 06/29/2014 09:11 PM, Dan Christensen wrote:

Also, I had expected that with Android 4.4 the notifications would allow
actions to be performed on messages (so-called "rich notifications"),
but I don't see that.  Does this work for other people?


In Account Settings/Notifications you can enable a Delete button for 
messages, but AFAIK that's as fas as it goes for now.


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Re: [k-9-mail] Sent-empty

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On June 17, 2014 9:14:31 AM EDT, FJR  wrote:
> I've been using K9 for weeks and just noticed there are no mails
> logged in 
> my "Sent" folder.  Why is this?.thanks
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Check account settings/folders and make sure that your Sent folder is the one 
you think it is.

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[k-9-mail] Address display suggestion

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I'm unhappy with both settings for displaying addresses (text or address); I 
have many correspondents with nonsense or useless text (Bob) whose address I'd 
like to see, and vice-versa, useless addresses (like mine) but useful text.

I'd like to see both, and I've got plenty of screen real estate. A multi-picker 
for text and address would be just right.

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Re: [k-9-mail] Notification bar functions

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On 05/08/2014 12:21 PM, Ingo N. wrote:

Hi.

I love k9 and am so much happier using this after using stock Android.

However I am wondering if the options that are offered in the notification bar 
(reply and mark read) could be configurable. I'd like to have a delete instead 
of mark read.


Have a look in (global) Settings/Notifications/Show 'Delete' Button.

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Re: [k-9-mail] Problem

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On 04/15/2014 05:10 AM, Eric Chelli wrote:
When i press on a message in the trash folder it doesn't give me the 
choice to put the message back in the inbox mail and i don't know how 
to put back all the 1300 emails in the inbox folder


Hit "Select all" in the trash folder, but then it gets hard to describe, 
because your configuration changes the buttons: select "refile".  This 
may be a little folder icon, or you may have to tap menu/refile.  You 
will be given a list of folders, scroll up or down and tap Inbox to put 
everything there.


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Re: [k-9-mail] why double posting?

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On 04/10/2014 06:01 AM, water lilies wrote:

due to lack of support in this "forum", i will double post in an actual user 
friendly android forum. i will explain therein why i am double posting.

since 2007, i have used linux. this is the only open source forum i have seen 
that is not supportive of users.


Please let us know where you can make accusations of misbehavior by 
volunteer labor and get good support.


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Re: [k-9-mail] Messages deleted on Gmail server when K-9 downloads emails.

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On 04/10/2014 07:06 AM, Alex wrote:
Hi, not sure if this is by design or not. I just installed the latest 
version of K9, onto an SGS2, and I'm finding that when K9 downloads an 
email (ie. the body of the email) via POP, it deletes the email from 
the inbox on the server.


I'd like it to leave the email in the inbox on the server, as I only 
want them deleted when I download them in Thunderbird on my PC.


Is there a setting in K9 for "leave messages on server" when checking 
POP accounts?


This is really weird.  I can't find the setting, either, but my one POP 
account *behaves* the way you describe, certainly that's the way I want 
it to behave.


I believe that there used to be such a setting, since I remember setting 
up this account that way, and so I'd guess that the control for that 
setting got lost in some update.


I'm running 4.903 on an unrooted Nexus 7, Android 4.4.2.

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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: K-9 violating privacy

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On April 5, 2014 6:15:01 PM EDT, water lilies  
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> i still disagree that linux email clients for PCs cache entire emails
> and viewed attachments.

Yes, they do.  Which ones are you confused about?  Please name an email client 
design that makes no local copy.  Accessing via a web page is not using a local 
client, and that makes a local copy, too.

> the wiki should disclose k-9 does and how to manually delete the cache

Discussing syncing a folder isn't describing making a local copy?  How are your 
reading comprehension skills?

Long-press on the folder, select "Clear local messages".

> want me to attach Cvs files in the cache? do other users have cvs
> images cached?

Ok, I'll probably regret this, but why would a CVS file be any different than 
any other file?

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Couple of issues re. sent messages

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On April 4, 2014 1:01:21 AM EDT, Trisha Kiefer  wrote:
> [ ... ] I tried setting it to CC me on all 
> emails, but it doesn't do that either. I download everything to
> Outlook to save it offline, and I can't do that from K9, so I need it to go 
> to my
> email. How do I make that start happening again?

Account settings/sending mail/composition defaults, there's a checkbox for 
BCC'ing to yourself.

There's also the "sent" folder (account settings/folders); k-9 puts a copy of 
all outgoing email there.  This folder can be marked for syncing like any 
other, to get it into your Outlook.

> Second: I tried to forward a message to myself from the Kindle just
> now, and it never made it to my email.

Can you send to others from your kindle?  Does the kindle receive mail from 
others on that account?  Did you simply typo the address?  There are lots of 
ways this could go wrong.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: Download and view emails deleted on IMAP server

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On 03/14/2014 09:46 AM, Archie Campbell wrote:

Thanks Ola
>How do you expect this to work if the folders are on your computer and
>not on the server?
The "deleted" emails are still on the server, just flagged as Deleted.
I just wondered if K-9 could access them.

>Why do you use local folders if you use IMAP?
Inherited from the previous system

>Why is it a hassle to use folders on the server?
There are quite a lot of local folders and rules.
If needs be I can switch to server-based folders.


I moved several gig of email from local folders into gmail via IMAP, 
using desktop Thunderbird, a year or less after importing them all from 
my old MH mailboxes into Thunderbird.


Moving one folder at a time went pretty smoothly.

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Re: [k-9-mail] feature Request: move mails back from trash

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On 03/13/2014 09:57 AM, An Ka wrote:

Hi dear developer team,

could you please add a function to undo a delete (move a mail bach 
from trash)?


If you sync your trash folder, you can browse to it and move messages back.

From your inbox, how would you specify which email to bring back? Just 
the most recently trashed, perhaps?


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Re: [k-9-mail] Are passwords transmitted in plain text to email providers??

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On March 6, 2014 11:19:25 AM EST, jack  wrote:
[ ... ]
> Also Seth, the reason why I mentioned HTTPS as an example above is because 
> its very similar to SSL/TLS since it is basically HTTP transported through 
> SSL/TLS which is the most basic stuff I can understand. The articles 
> explaining the security of it was used as a starting point since I couldn't 
> readily find any articles explaining the importance of using SSL/TLS in non 
> secure open areas prone to packet sniffing.

Pedantry: SSL/TLS is an encrypted transport layer, run over TCP, and used by 
HTTPS, SMTP, IMAPS, and maybe POP to encrypt an otherwise plaintext 
conversation.  The conversation above is unchanged, but the bits on the 
wire/radio are encrypted and decrypted by this layer.

The layering is intended to be clearly separated and should be thought of that 
way.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Spam Button

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On 03/05/2014 08:20 PM, Peter Holsberg wrote:

Why does K-9-Mail have a SPAM button?

It doesn't have a filter so wouldn't DELETE be just as good?



As others have said, moving messages to your server's spambox trains it.

Additionally, I deal with my gmail spambox with my desktop Thunderbird, 
training its filter at the same time; I know that there are lots of 
K-9/TBird users here.


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Re: [k-9-mail] Is there a setting to customise back button

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On 03/06/2014 05:56 AM, alanc...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,
There used to be an option to customise the back button. This was 
useful since I know lots of people like to exit the app with the back 
button.  However, I like the app to open in the message list, and then 
be able to go "back" up to the folder list. It would then go back to 
the account list and THEN exit the app.


Odd, that's the behavior I have with 4.903.  Both the back button the 
the K-9 icon (except in settings, annoying inconsistency) perform the 
same action.  ISTR that there was a configuration, but I can't find it, 
either.


Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] New development (alpha) version: 4.903

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On March 5, 2014 8:35:29 PM EST, cketti  wrote:
> Changes in v4.903

[ ... ]
Thanks for the notice!

So far, so good!

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Sent folder not synced

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On 03/02/2014 11:26 PM, Dan Drahy wrote:

Hello,
I am using k-9 mail for some time now ... I have kitkat android 4.4.2 
and k-9 mail version 4.803 ... There is one problem I am experiencing ...


Sent folder is synced from server to my phone correctly ... But when I 
sent something from mobile using k-9 mail it is not synced and not in 
server email account just on my phone ... Can this be fixed? Thank you 
... Using imap ...


Did this get answered already?

What folder does K-9 use to store the sent email on your phone?  Any 
folder that is synced should be synced in both directions.


Check Account Settings/Folders/Sent folder; this should point to your 
server's Sent folder.  To check, look at your list of folders; that 
folder should be marked with (Sent).


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Re: [k-9-mail] Reply Text Location Format

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On 02/28/2014 01:16 PM, MaxBuck wrote:
When I reply to an email, the receiver (original sender) usually tells 
me they got a blank reply.  The reason is that the reply text appears 
at the bottom of the email, contrary to the convention for all other 
email programs.  Can I change this?  I'm getting tired of having this 
happen, but I can find no Setting that would change it.


All other?  Hardly!  This was the original way of replying to email, now 
everybody has been bullied by Microsoft's horrible LookOut and is 
convinced that reading conversations in reverse in somehow better.


In any case, in Account Settings/Sending mail, look at "Reply quoting 
style".


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Re: [k-9-mail] Changing default app when opening attachments

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On February 28, 2014 6:36:12 AM EST, Dennis Rockwell  wrote:
> On February 28, 2014 5:46:05 AM EST, Seth H Holmes
>  wrote:
> 
> > You need to go into the settings for your device, go to apps, find
> the
> > cloud print and reset the defaults for it.
> > 
> > It's a function of the device, not k-9.
> 
> 
> And pressing "always" is what takes away the choice.
> 
> Dennis
> 
> Sent from my Nexus 7 with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

... or if there's only one app that can handle that type of share.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Changing default app when opening attachments

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On February 28, 2014 5:46:05 AM EST, Seth H Holmes  wrote:

> You need to go into the settings for your device, go to apps, find the
> cloud print and reset the defaults for it.
> 
> It's a function of the device, not k-9.


And pressing "always" is what takes away the choice.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Generate PDF from email?

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On 02/26/2014 06:25 AM, Voytek wrote:


Any way to generate a PDF from k9 email?

I've managed by select/copy/paste in k9, then paste in office suite, 
then, office suite lets me save as pdf' but is there way to save/ 
print from email directly?




Hmmm... the "right" way to deal with this might be something like the 
"print to PDF" things you get with Windows, so you share to it and it 
produces a PDF for you.


You can't share to Docs2Go, dagnabbit.  Searching for "android share to 
pdf" gets lots of inappropriate hits.


However, there's a PdfDocument() class 
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that produces PDF on the fly that K-9 could use, if somebody wants to 
expend the effort.  This could be the basis for the share-to-PDF app we 
really want.


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Re: [k-9-mail] Generate PDF from email?

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On 02/26/2014 06:25 AM, Voytek wrote:


Any way to generate a PDF from k9 email?

I've managed by select/copy/paste in k9, then paste in office suite, 
then, office suite lets me save as pdf' but is there way to save/ 
print from email directly?




Hmmm... the "right" way to deal with this might be something like the 
"print to PDF" things you get with Windows, so you share to it and it 
produces a PDF for you.


You can't share to Docs2Go, dagnabbit.  Searching for "android share to 
pdf" gets lots of inappropriate hits.


However, there's a PdfDocument() class 
 (and its doc 
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that produces PDF on the fly that K-9 could use, if somebody wants to 
expend the effort.  This could be the basis for the share-to-PDF app we 
really want.


Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Amount of Data Used Seems Excessive

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On February 24, 2014 5:12:12 PM EST, Steven Budaj  wrote:
[ ... ]
> I use IMAP for my email. What is using so much data?

IMAP still keeps local copies to reduce use of the radio (reducing battery and 
data use and user lag time).

> Is it possible to reduce the Data use?

Sync (poll) fewer folders.  Expunge folders you keep.  Tap "Clear local 
messages" for folders you don't need local copies of.  Empty your trash.

> Or, is this just normal?

Seems pretty normal.  I'm using 150MB local storage with my 3gig (or so) gmail 
account.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] new user help Reply to mail

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On 02/19/2014 12:54 PM, cketti wrote:

On 18.02.2014 15:42, Dennis Rockwell wrote:

On 02/17/2014 05:15 PM, Seth Holmes wrote:

Expunge is one of those things I just don't play with, it makes me a
little nervous. It's a very permanent deletion and I'm always afraid
it will delete more than I would like it to.

Expunge deletes K-9's local copy.  For an IMAP account, that's not
irreversible, it's just a cache flush.  When I want to manipulate a
folder I don't normally access (and don't sync), I hit the "Load more
messages", do what I need to, then expunge.

I'm afraid that's not correct. The "Expunge" button sends the expunge
command to the IMAP server causing all messages in that folder marked as
deleted to be removed permanently from the server.


Ah!  Does "Clear local messages" (long-press on the folder) do what I 
claimed that Expunge does?


Thanks!

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Receive message with PDF attached. K9 says unable to find viewer......

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On 02/18/2014 11:45 AM, Don Ireland wrote:

Hi Dennis.   That sounds like a reasonable explanation.  The file has  a pdf 
extension.

As far as the "sender" goes, in this case I guess that would technically be me.

I've got a Raspberry Pi set up as an Asterisk server (VOIP) and it receives 
faxes and sends them to me via email.

I've got it configured using SSMTP to send email via my Gmail account.


Ah, so you might have some control over how the attachment is tagged.  
Figure out how the email client (a simple perl script would suffice for 
a scriptable task like this) marks its attachments and make it 
better/smarter/configurable.  Depending on the mailer, it might be as 
easy as a command-line argument, or perhaps a manually-constructed mime 
wrapper.


Welcome to the wonderful world of email standards!  They've grown 
organically for decades, with hacks made by teams with very different 
ideas on How To Do Stuff.


Best of luck!

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Receive message with PDF attached. K9 says unable to find viewer......

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On 02/16/2014 11:32 PM, Don Ireland wrote:
I receive messages with PDF files attached and when I try to open 
them, K9 puts up a message that it is _*Unable to locate a viewer 
application/x-unknown-content-type*_. As soon as I click "Save" I'm 
then prompted to choose an app with which to open the file and I can 
choose the app.  (I've got three diff apps that can read a PDF file 
and typically use the Adobe reader).


The sender has a brain-dead email client that doesn't tag things 
properly.  It labelled the PDF file as "Unknown" and K-9 doesn't inspect 
the file suffix to offer suggestions (it shouldn't have to, suffixes 
aren't authoritative or required).  Does the file have a .pdf suffix?  
If not, K-9 can't even guess.


A suffix-to-mimetype map for use with a useless mimetype would be an 
easy enough thing to add, wouldn't you think?  However, it would still 
be defeated when the file has no suffix.


Yes, I'm a developer, I know that the list of "nice to haves" is infinite...

Is there any way to have it open the file in the PDF reader?  I did 
tell it to download the attachment before attempting to open it.


I expect that K-9 hands the file off to Android along with its mimetype 
(no help in this case) and Android just does its best, which is what you 
see.


Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] new user help Reply to mail

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On 02/17/2014 05:15 PM, Seth Holmes wrote:
Expunge is one of those things I just don't play with, it makes me a 
little nervous. It's a very permanent deletion and I'm always afraid 
it will delete more than I would like it to.


Expunge deletes K-9's local copy.  For an IMAP account, that's not 
irreversible, it's just a cache flush.  When I want to manipulate a 
folder I don't normally access (and don't sync), I hit the "Load more 
messages", do what I need to, then expunge.


The reply button should just be there. It's two arrow facing the left. 
I am also running 4.803 on a Rarz M and a Nexus 7. It shows up on 
both. There is a menu option to choose some buttons you always want 
displayed but that will push other buttons out of view.


That's odd, I'm running 4.901 on a stock unrooted Nexus 7, and I do 
*not* have a reply button (even in landscape on a 7" tablet!), I have to 
dig into the menu like the OP.  I deleted the "spam" button and got the 
refile button in its place.  Frankly, I'd rather lose the subject from 
the action bar and get more room for buttons. Desired list: next, prev, 
reply, reply all (if >1 recipient or list), refile, delete, and (if 
there's room) spam.


Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature request - Landascape mail view

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On February 14, 2014 9:56:58 AM EST, Seth Holmes  wrote:

> There is a menu option to select which buttons are visible, I can't recall 
> where it is but likely under the global settings.

There is, but reply isn't available.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Support for work email via OWA?

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On 02/10/2014 11:10 AM, Chip Frank wrote:

Good Morning all,

Just curious if anyone knows of any plan to support Outlook exchange 
sync via OWA (outlook web access) my company does not make exchange 
sync via WebDev available, I am able to use android apps like 
MobiMail, Outlook Web access, OWA mail and others like them but it is 
my understanding that these are basically highly modified and 
customized browsers or Web app wrappers.


It would be a dream come true if I could access all my emails into a 
unified inbox.


Ask your IT department to deploy the Outlook IMAP server.  K-9 and 
Thunderbird can talk to that without any trouble.


Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Disable Notifications for Email Fetching

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On February 7, 2014 7:48:35 PM EST, Tim Heckman  wrote:
[ ... ]
> Is there a way to have K-9 fetch the email, but not notify when doing it? I 
> didn't find an option to indicate it's possible, so I thought I'd
> reach out here.

Look for Account Settings/Notifications/Sync Notifications.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Thuderbird shows Error.

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On 02/03/2014 06:56 AM, Seth Holmes wrote:
It's not the number of accounts, it's the number of folders. The more 
folders (or labels in Gmail) you have and are trying to sync, the more 
likely you're going to hit the limit on the number of folders to sync.


More precisely, it's the number of folders that K-9 is set to push (not 
sync).  Each pushed folder keeps a connection open.


For Thunderbird, I *think* that this is denoted by "subscribing", but 
it's not clear (to me, anyway).


I think that TBird has abstracted away too much fine control.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Command sensitive respo

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On January 30, 2014 6:10:18 AM EST, Philippe Richard  
wrote:
> Hello
> 
> Yesterday I installed the update on android (samsung galaxy s3.) but I
> have 
> a problem. I have two accounts (in the same provider) but only one
> works. 
> For another, I still have the same errors: Command: sensitive respo 
> 
> Why? 
> 
> Thank you and congratulations
> 
> 
> PS : I did a test with thunderbird and my two accounts work
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That means that your password was rejected.  Edit the account, re-enter the 
password.

Yes there should be a way to retrieve the entire error message.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Entries in message lists larger

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On 01/28/2014 09:06 AM, Jan Niggemann wrote:

Hi all,

I got an update and K-9 is now at 4.803 on my Galaxy Nexus (Stock 4.3 
ROM).
Since the update, all entires in message lists take up more vertical 
space than before.


Does anybody have an idea why? Can I get the beloved concise look back?


You can eliminate the preview lines, and shrink the font used; that's 
about it.


Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Moving messages across different IMAP accounts

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On 01/28/2014 10:38 AM, Guido Minciotti wrote:

One thing I cannot seem to be able to do is to move a message to a folder which 
is an IMAP folder on another email account listed in K-9 accounts.


K-9 cannot move messages between accounts.  Yes, it's a little-used but 
very valuable feature.  I don't know if it's even on the to-do list.


I use a desktop Thunderbird to do this.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] save to drive???

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On 01/25/2014 05:42 PM, Voytek wrote:
recent versions of Android like what comes with current Nexus includes 
print option out of the box, it seems to be built in option.


(mind you, except for sometime, it didn't work for me most of the 
time...It does see the printer correctly, just won't print...)




I keep hearing that, and I've got both Cloud Print and HP Print Service 
Plugin enabled under Settings/Printing, and they find things, but how do 
you get to it?  They don't show up in any share menu.


(I for one couldn't understand why (until now) printing was not 
included in Android)


Paper?  How 20th century!!  :-)

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Re: [k-9-mail] save to drive???

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On January 25, 2014 4:43:12 AM EST, Voytek Eymont  
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> (looks like mine eralier message diddn't deliver properly..)
> 
> but the share menu doesn't include print option ?

There has to be an app that prints and can be shared to.  I use PrintBot.

The share list is generated by Android, and apps have to advertise what can be 
shared to them.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] save to drive???

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On 01/24/2014 12:36 PM, LR S wrote:
[ ... ] I tried "archiving", but since there is no "user manual" for 
K@ Mail, I cannot find what happened to it - so whatever I "archive" 
seems to go missing forever.


This requires that you have a folder designated as your Archive folder; 
check Account Settings/Folders (NOT Folder Settings) and see what 
Archive is set to.  That must be set to a folder that already exists; 
K-9 cannot create folders.


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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature request - Refile default action

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On January 23, 2014 10:23:26 AM EST, "Stéphane Wierzbicki" 
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> Hello,
> 
> First of all, thank you for your wonderfull peace of software.
> I've a small request : is it possible to improve the refile menu ? I
> find 
> it is a little bit cumbersome to move an "opened mail" into another
> folder.
> Right now, I need to 
> - tap on the refile icon (or select refile from menu)
> - select move
> - select the folder
> 
> Can't we have a default action for the refile action ? 
> 
> Thank you
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How default do you want to get?  If you have a folder designated "Archive" 
(account settings/folders) you can show the Archive action on messages (global 
settings/display, I think), which looks like an older-style menu(?), and will 
toss the message into the Archive folder immediately.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Release 802 - Dark Theme Message Display Broken

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On January 21, 2014 11:32:54 PM EST, Matt Dralle  wrote:
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> With the 802, if I turn on Dark Theme for message display, nothing but
> a black page is rendered regardless of the actual content.  Switching
> to Light Theme works as expected.  Dark Theme for the message listing
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> FYI.
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> Matt

Try 4.900; it cleared up the display problems for me.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Two problems: Account settings dissappeared & no select all feature

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On 01/15/2014 10:49 AM, Sandy Swann wrote:

I love you Dennis Rockwell!!  You solved all my problems!!

Thank you so very much!!


Excellent!  Glad to help!

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Two problems: Account settings dissappeared & no select all feature

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On 01/14/2014 05:02 PM, Sandy Swann wrote:

Hi there,

I hope it's okay to reply direct.  Thank you for your reply!!

1.  The 3 dots aren't anywhere in the app.


Is that a hardware menu button in the lower left?  Android will know 
it's there, and won't display the three dots when there's a hardware 
button.  My phone (Stratosphere) has a hardware menu button and never 
shows the three dots, anywhere.  My Nexus 7 (no hardware menu button) 
shows the three dots only when the current Activity has a menu.



2.  Thanks but I am aware that was a totally dif question.  It's just a 
function that I can't find.

I am really not a dumb user.  But, where and how do I get to the accounts?


You can hit the K-9 in the upper left until it no longer has a < next to 
it.  That'll be the accounts list.



Have you used at Galaxy S4?  I swear it's really different.


Do any other apps display the menu button?


IN K-9, there are 4 options at the bottom.


Those are the normal controls for that screen.  The three-dot menu 
button is present on my N7, but not my phone.


Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Can't click on a link unless I resize first.

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On 01/13/2014 10:58 AM, Andrew Ducker wrote:
When I open an HTML email the links aren't "clickable" unless I first 
resize the email (zoom out/in).


They look perfectly clickable, but nothing happens when I touch them.

If I resize the email, even slightly, they become clickable.


That happens on my Nexus 7, but I didn't think it was *always*. I'll 
have to poke some more.


Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] sound notification on asus nexus 7

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Sergio Calloni  wrote:
> I just installed k9 mail on samsung galaxy s4 and I'm glad I tried to 
> install it on asus tablet nexus 7 and I get no audio notifications:
> Even when I enter in the settings to choose the sound notifications by
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> changing the soundI cannot hear the preview.
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I get audio notifications on my Nexus 7 with no trouble.

Check the system (not K-9's settings) Sound/Volumes and make sure that the 
"Notifications" volume is up.  The Media, Notification, and Alarm volumes are 
independent, and the last two get adjusted if you push one of the volume 
buttons when a notification or alarm is playing.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Get K-9 to get Complete Message

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On 01/10/2014 12:10 PM, Bill Wilson wrote:
I am using K-9 on a Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 tablet to read my mail on 
FastMail.fm.  I have set up an IMAP account in K-9 and it is working 
fine when I am connected to Wi-Fi.  However, I would like to be able 
to download the messages while on Wi-Fi and then be able to move on 
where Wi-Fi is not available and read my new messages at that point.  
This doesn't work because K-9 did not download all the pictures in the 
messages while I was on-line.   Is there a way to set up to load 
everything while it has access?


K-9 will download all attachments when it downloads the message.  If the 
message contains links (including links to images in the message), it 
cannot load them when offline, and shouldn't prefetch them.  I get email 
containing lots of links, I don't want K-9 to build a huge cache of 
stuff I'll never look at, perhaps including several copies of the same 
logo downloaded each day.  That's a whole webcache to implement.


Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] *@... address

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On 01/10/2014 11:34 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:

On 2014-01-07 6:55 AM, Philip  wrote:

-Original Message-
From: k-9-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:k-9-mail@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of ETCPP87
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 11:12 PM
To: k-9-mail@googlegroups.com

Hi,

why can´t I set up an email-address with username/log in "*@xxx.de"? If
I type in this, the buttons are disabled. It only works if I type
something else than the "*".


* is not a valid character in an RFC 2822 address.

The list of valid characters can be found in
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2822


Didn't see anything of the kind there...


3.2.4, atext includes *, dot-atom includes atext.
3.4.1, local-part can be a dot-atom, addr-spec is local-part "@" domain

So, *@domain is explicitly allowed.  I can't say I *like* it...

Regardless, just because the RFC says something you want to do isn't 
illegal doesn't mean you should automatically do it.


But conforming applications should accept everything that's legal.

The fact is, the vast majority of mail servers in the world will 
reject many email addresses that are *technically* legal.


The real world often doesn't care what the RFCs say.


(for which I read: arrogant/ignorant developers think they can ignore 
the specs)


And people wonder why applications don't interoperate in a sensible way.

Dennis
Protocol Curmudgeon

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Re: [k-9-mail] "checking mail.. ." scrolling at the top

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Jtyler4  wrote:
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Turn off Account Settings/Notifications/Sync Notifications

Yeah, the flickering drove me nuts...

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Sent email

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Dennis Rockwell  wrote:
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> > Using version 4.409 on a Samsung S3
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> > Where does my sent email get stored?  
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> Each account has folders designated for tasks; messages are composed
> in the folder designated "Drafts" (not necessarily named Drafts), then
> a folder named (yes, named) "Outbox" until it's sent to the SMTP
> server, then in the folder designated "Sent".
> 
> Dennis
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> Sent from my Nexus 7 with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Oh, these get set in Account Settings/Folders.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Sent email

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Chris Hunt  wrote:
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> Using version 4.409 on a Samsung S3
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> Where does my sent email get stored?  
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Each account has folders designated for tasks; messages are composed in the 
folder designated "Drafts" (not necessarily named Drafts), then a folder named 
(yes, named) "Outbox" until it's sent to the SMTP server, then in the folder 
designated "Sent".

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] IMAP push in background not working

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On 01/02/2014 12:15 PM, Varrin Swearingen wrote:
I have also noticed that push isn't working. It worked prior to a 
couple weeks ago. Unfortunately, in the last couple weeks a *lot* 
changed: 1) I switched servers to a new hosting company, 2) I updated 
Android to 4.2, and 3) I updated K9 to 4.8something. It was definitely 
working before, and it's definitely not working now.


I concur.  I just sent an email each way between two of my accounts via 
TBird.  It showed up within seconds on TBird, but I had to manually 
check with K-9.  That eliminates server issues.


To make sure that TBird wasn't, umm, optimizing things, I sent from K-9 
to each account, Tbird picked them both up within seconds, K-9 waited 
for the next poll.


Is there interference between push and poll?  Should we disable poll for 
pushed folders?


The two accounts were gmail and corporate LookOut servers, very 
different code bases, AFAIK.


Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Stop one Email account among many.

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Rajesh Katara  wrote:
> Hi I would like to stop sync of my official Mail A/c & wants to use
> only as 
> and when I am out of office, Any guesses as I set folder sync
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> "Never" but it didn't work.
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Try setting the "push" and "poll" folders to "None".

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Blank messages with 4.802

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Dennis Rockwell  wrote:

> In any case, because you nonetheless make good sense, I uninstalled
> 4.801 and installed 4.802, imported my saved settings.  The problem
> still exists, although perhaps with less frequency.  I'll know more
> after a bit of testing.

While I can't say much about my speculated frequency change, I can now report a 
new symptom: the blank messages always display properly after rotating the 
device.  There is no correlation between initial orientation and success. 
Returning to the original orientation always (so far) displays the message 
properly.

I hope this is a useful clue.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Blank messages with 4.802

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Seth H Holmes  wrote:
> 
> Got context, I'm running a 2013 Nexus 7, WiFi only,  with settings
> imported from a Xoom. K9 Verizon 4.801. Android 4.4.2 rooted and I am
> NOT having this problem.
> 
> You may want to try clearing cache, clearing local data out just
> clearing all data. Setting up from scratch may be a PITA but it may be
> the only fix. If importing your sins replicates this problem, you may
> need to not import them.

I'm talking about 4.802, not 4.801.  4.801 does not show this bug for me, but 
it apparently does for some others.  Is the N7 being an Asus device relevant?

In any case, because you nonetheless make good sense, I uninstalled 4.801 and 
installed 4.802, imported my saved settings.  The problem still exists, 
although perhaps with less frequency.  I'll know more after a bit of testing.

I'm extremely reluctant to recreate my configuration from scratch; I'd have 
several hundred folders to set up, even knowing how to use the classes properly.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Blank messages with 4.802

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cketti  wrote:
> On 18.12.2013 12:12, Dennis Rockwell wrote:
> > I'm getting a lot of blank messages with 4.802; I didn't get any
> with 4.801.
> 
> Can you please open a bug report and attach one of the messages that
> don't show?

I haven't done this because uninstalling, re-installing and re-syncing my email 
is a serious pain, even with settings export and import; Android won't allow me 
to just freakin' install an older version, dammit.

That said, I'm sicker than a dog and so I actually have some time.  I tried to 
characterize this bug with no definitive results.  I haven't found a message 
that will always or never display, so I can confidently conclude that it's not 
dependent on message content, or on theme.

More explicitly, any given message may or may not display.  It (definitely) 
doesn't alternate or (AFAICT with 15 min of testing) depend on how I get to a 
message (prev/next, folder view), or whether the previous message displayed 
properly.

In short, I can't reliably reproduce the bug on demand, but it happens with 
about 50% probability any time I attempt to display any given message.

Again, unrooted 1st gen Nexus 7, stock Android 4.4.2.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] Polling Question

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Jimmy Burris  wrote:
> Just downloaded the app and set up my accounts.  I have it set to poll
> 
> every 15 minutes.  My question is do I have to leave the k-9 app open
> in 
> order for it to poll and notify me.  The reason I am asking is that it
> has 
> been over 15 minutes and I know that I have new emails.  Every time I
> open 
> the app it seems to reset and it shows next poll in 15 minutes.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jimmy
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Be sure to exclude K-9 from any task-killer you use.

Dennis

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Re: [k-9-mail] IMAP push in background not working

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Ichi Ji  wrote:

> 2.) Less of an issue but I'm curious where K9 actually stores the local 
> mail files. I've done a search and found a mention of the directory 
> Android/data/com.fsck.k9/files, but I don't have that directory or any
> files resembling k9 that I could find. (Using different file managers with 
> "Show hidden files" enabled, such as OpenExplorer and X-plore..

You need to use a root-capable file manager (like Root Explorer), the database 
(like most app-private files) are in directories with restrictive permissions.


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[k-9-mail] Blank messages with 4.802

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I'm getting a lot of blank messages with 4.802; I didn't get any with 4.801.

1st gen Nexus 7, unrooted stock 4.4.2.

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