[kaffe] kaffe's license
hi all. I wondering kaffe's license. After I modify kaffe's source code for commercial distribution, I want to use for kaffe virtual machine in digital television settop box. And then, Have I a duty to give money? Where? additional qustaion.. If I don't used a Kaffe' virtual machine. If CDC-VM was loaded in the DTV settup box, how much do I give in Sun corp. If I used Sun's libraries without cdcvm, Have I a duty to give money in Sun corp. I'm so sorry to have question poorly. ___ kaffe mailing list kaffe@kaffe.org http://kaffe.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kaffe
[kaffe] Cross compile 1.1.5 for arm - configure: error: libXtst NOT found, required for GdkRobot
I am getting the following error cross configuring kaffe for the arm on fedora core 3 (FC3) ... checking for declaration of swab... no checking for X... libraries /usr/X11R6/lib, headers /usr/X11R6/include checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet... no checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet_stub... no checking for gethostbyname... (cached) yes checking for connect... (cached) yes checking for remove... yes checking for shmat... yes checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... no checking for XTestQueryExtension in -lXtst... no configure: error: libXtst NOT found, required for GdkRobot [EMAIL PROTECTED] kaffe-1.1.5]$ locate libXtst /usr/X11R6/lib/libXtst.so.6 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXtst.so /usr/X11R6/lib/libXtst.a /usr/X11R6/lib/libXtst.so.6.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] kaffe-1.1.5]$ uname -a Linux tp1.thecla.com 2.6.11-1.14_FC3_ACPI #1 Sun May 1 00:03:34 BST 2005 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux I use the following configure script ... # #!/bin/sh source set-gcc-z ./configure --host=arm-linux --build=i686-linux $* # set-gcc-z export PATH=/opt/Embedix/tools/arm-linux/bin:$PATH I have the following rpms installed ... binutils-cross-arm-2.11.2-0.i386.rpm glibc-arm-2.2.2-0.i386.rpm qtopia-free-1.5.0-1.i386.rpm gcc-cross-sa1100-2.95.2-0.i386.rpm linux-headers-arm-sa1100-2.4.6-3.i386.rpm any suggestions welcome. My actual target is a zaurus 5000d running oz 3.5.3 -- regards Martin West ___ kaffe mailing list kaffe@kaffe.org http://kaffe.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kaffe
[kaffe] Re: Porting Kaffe-1.1.4 on mips lx4189
Hey, This may have nothing to do with your problem, but note that the Lexra processors aren't really 100% MIPS compatible - they don't implement the load left and load right instructions used to handle unaligned (typically, packed) data. Unless the OS knows to emulate those instructions, or the compiler is told to avoid emitting them, you could get the sort=20 of behavior you describe. although not perfectly, kaffe does run on Mips, to be sure however I'm running a build of CVS right now on my r4400 system. I will post resulsts later here. The instructions to load unaligned data are copyrighted, afaik. Thus a non-official implementation of MIPS can't have them. Usually gcc doesn't generate unaligned accesses, but kaffe could. In any case, kaffe 1.1.4 is a bit old and you might try either 1.1.5 or even better CVS. But if the problem is your CPU then... you'll have trouble. -R ___ kaffe mailing list kaffe@kaffe.org http://kaffe.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kaffe
[kaffe] results on solaris 2.6 sparc v8
Hello, these are the failures on solaris 2.6, sparc v8 (6 failures): CLTestJLock.fail ProcessClassStop.fail NetworkInterfaceTest.fail RefTest.fail ProcessClassLockTest.fail SecureRandomTest.fail is SecureRandomTest a new test? or did something change there? it didn't use to appear as a failure. -R ___ kaffe mailing list kaffe@kaffe.org http://kaffe.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kaffe
Re: [kaffe] Re: kaffe's license
Kiyo Inaba wrote: toodulli wrote: I wondering kaffe's license. After I modify kaffe's source code for commercial distribution, I want to use for kaffe virtual machine in digital television settop box. And then, Have I a duty to give money? Where? Good to hear someone is trying to deploy the usability of kaffe :-) Since kaffe is licensed by GNU General Public License or GPL, you need not to pay money at all. The main obligation for you is if you modify some part of kaffe, you also have to make this modified portion open. See more detail in http://www.opensource.org/licenses/index.php I hate to add FUD (fear, uncertainty, doubt) to our own project, but I think some history of the licensing of the project might be illustrative. It's all a bit unclean, unfortunately. We should right a FAQ on this... In the early days, Kaffe was released by Tim Wilkinson under a BSD style license. When he started a company (Transvirtual) to commercialize the technology, they started doing newer releases under the GPL, which was supposed to discourage people from using it in commercial products, so they could sell their proprietary version. That business model didn't actually work very well, and Transvirtual eventually closed down. The GPL license is somewhat undefined in terms of how it interacts with other code. It's not a license I would have chosen for a virtual machine. Some people say if you run an application on top of the VM, you would have to make that application GPL-licensed too. Some people say that's nonsense (I tend to agree with that viewpoint). To my knowledge, I'm not aware of any cases where somebody has been sued for running non-GPL code on a GPL'd virtual machine. It's not a common scenario. I think Transvirtual actually came to regret re-releasing the VM under the GPL, since they saw that people were actually using the GPL'd version for commercial developments, and were not coming to them for the proprietary version. The Kaffe project never demanded copyright assignment, so the intellectual property rights for the various bits in the virtual machine still reside with the authors of those parts (similar to how the Linux kernel is owned). This means that the parts of the virtual machine contributed by Transvirtual are still owned by whoever has acquired the assets of Transvirtual. The company at twincom.net looks like they may have acquired the assets, but I don't know what sort of legal agreements they have signed. Also, other contributors to Kaffe, eg. the people on this mailing list, own the parts they have contributed. Personally, I would never sue anybody over using Kaffe for any purpose, and I'm sure most of the other contributors feel the same way. I would like to see users comply with the spirit of the GPL, and contribute their modifications to the virtual machine back to the project. However, I cannot 100% guarantee that the whoever holds or buys the rights to the old Transvirtual stuff might not someday demand compliance with their interpretation of the GPL, and threaten to sue if that does not happen. I suspect that this scenario is somewhat unlikely, since it would cost a lot of money to sue, the legal case probably isn't very good, and the amount of damages that they could get would probably be minimal. I suspect the current owners of the old Transvirtual IP are aware that they own it, but they also realize that it would be extremely difficult to extract any value out of it using this method. So, if you absolutely can't take any legal risks, you might be better off just prototyping with Kaffe, and then choosing another Classpath-based virtual machine to actually put in your product. If somebody was motivated, we could attempt to track down all the IP holders that have contributed to Kaffe, and attempt to relicense the project or get copyright assignment. That may be difficult though, especially since some of them have died. It would probably just be easier to direct efforts to some of the other virtual machine projects out there with cleaner licensing, especially since they now share so much with Kaffe (eg. the Classpath libraries). That said, I personally don't think that Kaffe's somewhat unclear licensing situation is much of an obstacle for most uses, so I don't see any reason not to keep the project going. Cheers, - Jim ___ kaffe mailing list kaffe@kaffe.org http://kaffe.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kaffe
Re: [kaffe] Cross compile 1.1.5 for arm - configure: error: libXtst NOT found, required for GdkRobot
Thanks On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 18:52 +0200, Dalibor Topic wrote: Martin West wrote: I am getting the following error cross configuring kaffe for the arm on fedora core 3 (FC3) ... checking for XTestQueryExtension in -lXtst... no configure: error: libXtst NOT found, required for GdkRobot Hallo Martin, Kaffe 1.1.5 uses classpath's AWT implementation by default, which in recent versions needs the Xtst extension to X11 to implement AWt robot functionality. If you do not intend to use AWT or swing on your target, you can configure support away for them using --disable-native-awt. If you intend to run 1.1-like AWT applications only, you may want to use the Xlib or Qt/Embedded based AWT implementation available as additional options. See FAQ/FAQ.awt for details on how to configure them, and what they support. cheers, dalibor topic -- regards Martin West 01962 712 137 07879 680 096 http://thecla.homeftp.net aim:amartinwest msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ kaffe mailing list kaffe@kaffe.org http://kaffe.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kaffe
[kaffe] mips jit broken
Hey all!
compiling cvs on mips-linux using JIT and jthreads results in even the
jitBasic test failing:
40: sw i23,-44(fp)
40: check_stack_limit:
48: sgtui25,i5,sp
48: bne i25,zero,+3
4c: nop
54: call [soft_stackoverflow]
58: nop
/bin/sh: line 1: 12516 Aborted env TEST_
CLASSES=ConstMethods.class ConstMathMethods.class ParameterizedMethods.
class ParameterizedMathMethods.class ParameterizedLogicalMethods.class
ParameterizedBitwiseMethods.class ControlFlowMethods.class
StaticMethodCall.class TypeConversion.class StaticFields.class
PrimitiveArrays.class ObjectFields.class MethodOptimizations.class
NativeMethodCall.class Exceptions.class `BOOTCLASSPATH=.; export
BOOTCLASSPATH; . ../../BUILD_ENVIRONMENT; sed 's/.*export \(.*\)/echo \
1=$\1/' ../../BUILD_ENVIRONMENT | sh` ${dir}$tst
FAIL: jitBasic
1 of 1 tests failed
cheers,
Riccardo
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[kaffe] Cross compile 1.1.5 for arm : configure: error: libXtst NOT found, required for GdkRobot
I am getting the following error cross configuring kaffe for the arm on fedora core 3 (FC3) ... checking for declaration of swab... no checking for X... libraries /usr/X11R6/lib, headers /usr/X11R6/include checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet... no checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet_stub... no checking for gethostbyname... (cached) yes checking for connect... (cached) yes checking for remove... yes checking for shmat... yes checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... no checking for XTestQueryExtension in -lXtst... no configure: error: libXtst NOT found, required for GdkRobot [EMAIL PROTECTED] kaffe-1.1.5]$ locate libXtst /usr/X11R6/lib/libXtst.so.6 /usr/X11R6/lib/libXtst.so /usr/X11R6/lib/libXtst.a /usr/X11R6/lib/libXtst.so.6.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] kaffe-1.1.5]$ uname -a Linux tp1.thecla.com 2.6.11-1.14_FC3_ACPI #1 Sun May 1 00:03:34 BST 2005 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux I use the following configure script ... # #!/bin/sh source set-gcc-z ./configure --host=arm-linux --build=i686-linux $* # set-gcc-z export PATH=/opt/Embedix/tools/arm-linux/bin:$PATH I have the following rpms installed ... binutils-cross-arm-2.11.2-0.i386.rpm glibc-arm-2.2.2-0.i386.rpm qtopia-free-1.5.0-1.i386.rpm gcc-cross-sa1100-2.95.2-0.i386.rpm linux-headers-arm-sa1100-2.4.6-3.i386.rpm any suggestions welcome. ___ kaffe mailing list kaffe@kaffe.org http://kaffe.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kaffe
Re: [kaffe] Cross compile 1.1.5 for arm - configure: error: libXtst NOT found, required for GdkRobot
I do need awt/swing but not completely understanding the information in the FAQ.awt in respect of cross compiling for a zaurus with oz353, and trying to check the end to end process I used ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/kaffe-arm host=arm-linux --build=i686- linux --disable-native-awt --enable-pure-java-math ac_cv_c_char_unsigned=yes which gave error ... gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../../config -I../../../include/kaffe -I../../../kaffe/kaffevm/systems/unix-pthreads - I../../../kaffe/kaffevm/jni -I.. -I./.. -DTRANSLATOR -I../../../include -I/usr/local/downloads/zaurus/kaffe-1.1.5/./kaffe/kaffevm - I/usr/local/downloads/zaurus/kaffe-1.1.5/./kaffe/kaffevm/jit - I/usr/local/downloads/zaurus/kaffe-1.1.5/./kaffe/kaffevm/systems/unix- pthreads -I../../../replace -I../../../binreloc -I../../../config - I../../../include -DKAFFE_VMDEBUG -D_REENTRANT -g -O2 -Wall -fsigned- char -fno-omit-frame-pointer -pthread -DENABLE_BINRELOC -c methodcalls.c -Wp,-MD,.deps/methodcalls.TPlo -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/methodcalls.o ../../../config/arm/sysdepCallMethod.h: In function `engine_callMethod': ../../../config/arm/sysdepCallMethod.h:38: error: invalid register name `r0' for register variable ../../../config/arm/sysdepCallMethod.h:39: error: invalid register name `r1' for register variable ../../../config/arm/sysdepCallMethod.h:40: error: invalid register name `r2' for register variable ../../../config/arm/sysdepCallMethod.h:41: error: invalid register name `r3' for register variable ../../../config/arm/sysdepCallMethod.h:43: error: invalid register name `f0' for register variable ../../../config/arm/sysdepCallMethod.h:71: error: unknown register name `lr' in `asm' ../../../config/arm/sysdepCallMethod.h:71: error: unknown register name `ip' in `asm' make[3]: *** [methodcalls.lo] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/downloads/zaurus/kaffe-1.1.5/kaffe/kaffevm/jit' On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 18:52 +0200, Dalibor Topic wrote: Martin West wrote: I am getting the following error cross configuring kaffe for the arm on fedora core 3 (FC3) ... checking for XTestQueryExtension in -lXtst... no configure: error: libXtst NOT found, required for GdkRobot Hallo Martin, Kaffe 1.1.5 uses classpath's AWT implementation by default, which in recent versions needs the Xtst extension to X11 to implement AWt robot functionality. If you do not intend to use AWT or swing on your target, you can configure support away for them using --disable-native-awt. If you intend to run 1.1-like AWT applications only, you may want to use the Xlib or Qt/Embedded based AWT implementation available as additional options. See FAQ/FAQ.awt for details on how to configure them, and what they support. cheers, dalibor topic -- regards Martin West 01962 712 137 07879 680 096 http://thecla.homeftp.net aim:amartinwest msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ kaffe mailing list kaffe@kaffe.org http://kaffe.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kaffe
Re: [kaffe] Cross compile 1.1.5 for arm - configure: error: libXtst NOT found, required for GdkRobot
Ignore, didnt have the arm gcc in the path - DOH On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 23:20 +0100, Martin West wrote: I do need awt/swing but not completely understanding the information in the FAQ.awt in respect of cross compiling for a zaurus with oz353, and trying to check the end to end process I used ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/kaffe-arm host=arm-linux --build=i686- linux --disable-native-awt --enable-pure-java-math ac_cv_c_char_unsigned=yes which gave error ... gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../../config -I../../../include/kaffe -I../../../kaffe/kaffevm/systems/unix-pthreads - I../../../kaffe/kaffevm/jni -I.. -I./.. -DTRANSLATOR -I../../../include -I/usr/local/downloads/zaurus/kaffe-1.1.5/./kaffe/kaffevm - I/usr/local/downloads/zaurus/kaffe-1.1.5/./kaffe/kaffevm/jit - I/usr/local/downloads/zaurus/kaffe-1.1.5/./kaffe/kaffevm/systems/unix- pthreads -I../../../replace -I../../../binreloc -I../../../config - I../../../include -DKAFFE_VMDEBUG -D_REENTRANT -g -O2 -Wall -fsigned- char -fno-omit-frame-pointer -pthread -DENABLE_BINRELOC -c methodcalls.c -Wp,-MD,.deps/methodcalls.TPlo -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/methodcalls.o ../../../config/arm/sysdepCallMethod.h: In function `engine_callMethod': ../../../config/arm/sysdepCallMethod.h:38: error: invalid register name `r0' for register variable ../../../config/arm/sysdepCallMethod.h:39: error: invalid register name `r1' for register variable ../../../config/arm/sysdepCallMethod.h:40: error: invalid register name `r2' for register variable ../../../config/arm/sysdepCallMethod.h:41: error: invalid register name `r3' for register variable ../../../config/arm/sysdepCallMethod.h:43: error: invalid register name `f0' for register variable ../../../config/arm/sysdepCallMethod.h:71: error: unknown register name `lr' in `asm' ../../../config/arm/sysdepCallMethod.h:71: error: unknown register name `ip' in `asm' make[3]: *** [methodcalls.lo] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/downloads/zaurus/kaffe-1.1.5/kaffe/kaffevm/jit' On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 18:52 +0200, Dalibor Topic wrote: Martin West wrote: I am getting the following error cross configuring kaffe for the arm on fedora core 3 (FC3) ... checking for XTestQueryExtension in -lXtst... no configure: error: libXtst NOT found, required for GdkRobot Hallo Martin, Kaffe 1.1.5 uses classpath's AWT implementation by default, which in recent versions needs the Xtst extension to X11 to implement AWt robot functionality. If you do not intend to use AWT or swing on your target, you can configure support away for them using --disable-native-awt. If you intend to run 1.1-like AWT applications only, you may want to use the Xlib or Qt/Embedded based AWT implementation available as additional options. See FAQ/FAQ.awt for details on how to configure them, and what they support. cheers, dalibor topic -- regards Martin West 01962 712 137 07879 680 096 http://thecla.homeftp.net aim:amartinwest msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ kaffe mailing list kaffe@kaffe.org http://kaffe.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kaffe
[kaffe] Compile error esd.h not found
Now get compile error ... gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../../../config - I../../../../include/kaffe -I../../../../include - I/usr/local/downloads/zaurus/kaffe-1.1.5/./kaffe/kaffevm - I/usr/local/downloads/zaurus/kaffe-1.1.5/./kaffe/kaffevm/jit - I/usr/local/downloads/zaurus/kaffe-1.1.5/./kaffe/kaffevm/systems/unix- pthreads -I../../../../replace -I../../../../binreloc - I../../../../config -I../../../../include -DKAFFE_VMDEBUG -D_REENTRANT - g -O2 -Wall -fsigned-char -fno-omit-frame-pointer -pthread - DENABLE_BINRELOC-c org_tritonus_lowlevel_esd_EsdRecordingStream.c -Wp,- MD,.deps/libtritonusesd_la- org_tritonus_lowlevel_esd_EsdRecordingStream.TPlo -fPIC -DPIC - o .libs/libtritonusesd_la-org_tritonus_lowlevel_esd_EsdRecordingStream.o In file included from org_tritonus_lowlevel_esd_EsdRecordingStream.c:8: common.h:25: esd.h: No such file or directory with configure ... ./configure prefix=/usr/local/kaffe-arm-linux host=arm-linux -- build=i686-linux --disable-native-awt --enable-pure-java-math ac_cv_c_char_unsigned=yes --with-rt-jar=/usr/local/kaffe/jre/lib/rt.jar using kaffe 1.1.5 on FC3. -- regards Martin West 01962 712 137 07879 680 096 http://thecla.homeftp.net aim:amartinwest msn:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ kaffe mailing list kaffe@kaffe.org http://kaffe.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kaffe
Re: [kaffe] Compile error esd.h not found
Now get compile error ... As the message says, your gcc can not find proper 'esd.h'. Double check you have esd installed, or set '--disable-sound' configuration option. Kiyo ___ kaffe mailing list kaffe@kaffe.org http://kaffe.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kaffe
