[kde] Re: KDEPIM 4.6 prob^Wimpressions
On Thursday, 2011-07-07, Alex Schuster wrote: > I wanted to see if distribution lists work with the new Kontact - they did > not with the old one, a mail to TESTGROUP would not go to the email > addresses of this group's members, but TESTGROUP@myserver.mydomain. But > when I open the address book and enter a new group, the new KMail does not > know about this group and will not autocomplete. Seems like KMail does not > know about any of my contacts. Could also be a problem with the Nepomuk setup, e.g. Nepomuk not running or a problem with the Akonadi agent telling Nepomuk about contacts (akonadi_nepomuk_contact_feeder) > I do not understand at all how this works. I still have the contacts in my > address book, so the migration has worked for them, but when I open the > settings, they show the location as ~/.kde4/share/apps/kabc/stdvcf, and > this directory is empty. So all this stuff is in Akonadi's mysql database > now? What's the purpose of this empty directory? I think the address book migrator moves the contacts to $HOME/.local/share/contacts, the resource "Personal Contacts" should point to that. Cheers, Kevin -- Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer KDE user support, developer mentoring signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
[kde] after upgrade 4.6.4 -> 4.6.5 konqueror unusable
on openSUSE 11.4 my mirrors just took me from KDE 4.6.4 to 4.6.5, after which opening konqueror, as well as chaning directories, takes one minute or more. during this time (h)top shows increased activity of akonadiserver, even after disabling strigi & nepomuk in 'systemsettings.' i'm not sure if this is KDE- or openSUSE related and would like to know if others experience the same... -- phani. ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
[kde] Re: after upgrade 4.6.4 -> 4.6.5 konqueror unusable
On Thursday, July 07, 2011 12:31:37 PM phanisvara das did opine: > on openSUSE 11.4 my mirrors just took me from KDE 4.6.4 to 4.6.5, after > which opening konqueror, as well as chaning directories, takes one > minute or more. during this time (h)top shows increased activity of > akonadiserver, even after disabling strigi & nepomuk in > 'systemsettings.' > > i'm not sure if this is KDE- or openSUSE related and would like to know > if others experience the same... PCLos took me up to kde-4.6.5 this morning also, no reboot needed, and the system is running 100% normally so far. I have 3 instant problems: 1. a reboot always takes a hardware reset button tap, it hangs immediately after turning off swaps. True since about the 2.6.28 kernel era. Currently running 2.6.38.8-pae-bfs (32 bit flavor on a quad core phenom 9550) which gives a better feeling desktop by far than the default cfs scheduler does. 2. The current Xilinx kit (a 4Gb tarball download) for Spartan based FPGA boards won't install, missing library that PCLos doesn't have or need. :( 3. Ditto for the Alteras DE1 software kit, different dependency that is also not solvable with synaptic. But its only a 20.3 meg script dl. ;-) Cheers, gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Fraud is the homage that force pays to reason. -- Charles Curtis, "A Commonplace Book" ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
[kde] Re: after upgrade 4.6.4 -> 4.6.5 konqueror unusable
On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 22:13:06 +0530, gene heskett wrote: > On Thursday, July 07, 2011 12:31:37 PM phanisvara das did opine: > >> on openSUSE 11.4 my mirrors just took me from KDE 4.6.4 to 4.6.5, after >> which opening konqueror, as well as chaning directories, takes one >> minute or more. during this time (h)top shows increased activity of >> akonadiserver, even after disabling strigi & nepomuk in >> 'systemsettings.' >> >> i'm not sure if this is KDE- or openSUSE related and would like to know >> if others experience the same... > > PCLos took me up to kde-4.6.5 this morning also, no reboot needed, and the > system is running 100% normally so far. > > I have 3 instant problems: > > 1. a reboot always takes a hardware reset button tap, it hangs immediately > after turning off swaps. True since about the 2.6.28 kernel era. > Currently running 2.6.38.8-pae-bfs (32 bit flavor on a quad core phenom > 9550) which gives a better feeling desktop by far than the default cfs > scheduler does. > > 2. The current Xilinx kit (a 4Gb tarball download) for Spartan based FPGA > boards won't install, missing library that PCLos doesn't have or need. :( > > 3. Ditto for the Alteras DE1 software kit, different dependency that is > also not solvable with synaptic. But its only a 20.3 meg script dl. ;-) > thanks for letting me know. it seems to be an openSUSE thing, then. considering that KDE 4.7 beta is the new thing right now, i decided to continue upgrading to that version instead. still downloading, but according to what i've seen on the openSUSE-KDE forum, things seem to work well. -- phani. ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
[kde] disable fx prior to first 4.6 startups
I've done several new installations lately, openSUSE 11.4 and Kubuntu 11.04, all on i865G video, in each case doing system updates (to e.g. 4.6.4) prior to first X start. All have been very difficult to get into anything after starting X, including systemsettings to turn off the broken desktop FX. Phantom windows come and go, including main menu & panel & clock settings, How on further i865G installations can I configure a system globally to disable desktop FX by default? Will it be the same for 4.7? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
[kde] Re: disable fx prior to first 4.6 startups
Am Donnerstag, 7. Juli 2011, 16:44:59 schrieb Felix Miata: > I've done several new installations lately, openSUSE 11.4 and Kubuntu > 11.04, all on i865G video, in each case doing system updates (to e.g. > 4.6.4) prior to first X start. All have been very difficult to get into > anything after starting X, including systemsettings to turn off the > broken desktop FX. Phantom windows come and go, including main menu & > panel & clock settings, How on further i865G installations can I > configure a system globally to disable desktop FX by default? Will it be > the same for 4.7? I'm not sure if I understand this right... so the active desktop effects mess up everything, and it is even hard to start systemsettings and turn them off? Try Alt+Shift+F12, this toggles the desktop effects. I use it on a PC (not my own desktop, at least one problem that _I_ do not run into) where all plasma stuff is just black, including the panel, so I cannot open the K menu or call krunner. This happened after the upgrade from 4.6.2 to to 4.6.3, 4.6.4 is not installed there yet. Could also be the X.org update that happened along the KDE update. You can also edit ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc, and set Enabled=false in the [Compositing] section. Wonko ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
[kde] Re: disable fx prior to first 4.6 startups
On 2011/07/07 22:54 (GMT+0200) Alex Schuster composed: > schrieb Felix Miata: >> I've done several new installations lately, openSUSE 11.4 and Kubuntu >> 11.04, all on i865G video, in each case doing system updates (to e.g. >> 4.6.4) prior to first X start. All have been very difficult to get into >> anything after starting X, including systemsettings to turn off the >> broken desktop FX. Phantom windows come and go, including main menu& >> panel& clock settings, How on further i865G installations can I >> configure a system globally to disable desktop FX by default? Will it be >> the same for 4.7? > I'm not sure if I understand this right... so the active desktop effects > mess up everything, and it is even hard to start systemsettings and turn > them off? Exactly. I can rarely remember the run command hotkey. If I did, I'd open Konsole and try doing things from that, or run command. > Try Alt+Shift+F12, this toggles the desktop effects. I use it on a PC (not Another hotkey combination I'll probably forget as fast as I discovered it, or at least not remember when I need to. > You can also edit ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc, and set Enabled=false in the > [Compositing] section. That would not be a global fix. That file doesn't even exist on a new install until after KDE gets started, and then only for each individual's first login. On Natty, I looked and found only one kwinrc, hiding in a directory called /usr/share/kubuntu-netbook-default-settings/share/config, which makes no sense to me, since this is a desktop install, not a netbook. Looking on the mirrors in pool/main/k/ I see a kubuntu-netbook-default-settings/, but nothing that looks appropriate for a desktop installation. On 11.4, I couldn't find a kwinrc in any of /etc, /opt, /var or /usr. Anyway, would the kwinrc file in Natty's /usr rats nest be appropriate for global changes? It has no [Compositing] section. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
[kde] Re: disable fx prior to first 4.6 startups
Felix Miata wrote, On 07/07/2011 03:29 PM:
> On 2011/07/07 22:54 (GMT+0200) Alex Schuster composed:
> > schrieb Felix Miata:
>> I'm not sure if I understand this right... so the active desktop effects
>> mess up everything, and it is even hard to start systemsettings and turn
>> them off?
>
> Exactly. I can rarely remember the run command hotkey. If I did, I'd open
> Konsole and try doing things from that, or run command.
>
>> Try Alt+Shift+F12, this toggles the desktop effects. I use it on a PC (not
alternatively, programmatically:
kwin_compositing_active=$(qdbus org.kde.kwin /KWin
org.kde.KWin.compositingActive)
[ "${kwin_compositing_active}" = "true" ] && qdbus org.kde.kwin
org.kde.KWin.toggleCompositing
>> You can also edit ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc, and set Enabled=false in the
>> [Compositing] section.
Alex,
I prefer to state modifications to config files in terms of k{read,write}config
statements, as these should work regardless of the distro (i think). This
should make it easier for end-users to get the desired effect w/o having to
hunt around or try to figure out why a section/key/file don't exist.
Just Cut/Paste and voila' (crossing fingers...)
see below...
> That would not be a global fix. That file doesn't even exist on a new install
> until after KDE gets started, and then only for each individual's first login.
>
> On Natty, I looked and found only one kwinrc, hiding in a directory called
> /usr/share/kubuntu-netbook-default-settings/share/config, which makes no
> sense to me, since this is a desktop install, not a netbook. Looking on the
> mirrors in pool/main/k/ I see a kubuntu-netbook-default-settings/, but
> nothing that looks appropriate for a desktop installation.
>
> On 11.4, I couldn't find a kwinrc in any of /etc, /opt, /var or /usr.
>
> Anyway, would the kwinrc file in Natty's /usr rats nest be appropriate for
> global changes? It has no [Compositing] section.
Felix,
This will work to disable compositing for the user that runs it (after logout
and log-back-in, or if they've never logged in yet:
kwriteconfig --file kwinrc --group Compositing --key Enabled false
This should work to create a SITE-specific (or machine specific)
Override (that should not be touched by system updates). This will/should
create files, group sections, and keys as appropriate
if they don't already exist.
kde_etc_config=$(kde4-config --path config | cut -f2 -d:)
kwriteconfig --file ${kde_etc_config}/kwinrc --group Compositing --key Enabled
false
At least this all "Works for Me(tm)" ;)
--stephen
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[kde] Re: disable fx prior to first 4.6 startups
Stephen Dowdy writes:
> I prefer to state modifications to config files in terms of
> k{read,write}config statements, as these should work regardless of the
> distro (i think). This should make it easier for end-users to get the
> desired effect w/o having to hunt around or try to figure out why a
> section/key/file don't exist. Just Cut/Paste and voila' (crossing
> fingers...)
[...]
> kwriteconfig --file kwinrc --group Compositing --key Enabled false
Cool, I did not know about these commands. Nice to know.
Wonko
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[kde] Re: disable fx prior to first 4.6 startups
Felix Miata writes: > On 2011/07/07 22:54 (GMT+0200) Alex Schuster composed: > > Try Alt+Shift+F12, this toggles the desktop effects. I use it on a PC > > (not > > Another hotkey combination I'll probably forget as fast as I discovered > it, or at least not remember when I need to. I know it well, because I get notifications frequently that my system is too slow and that the desktops effects are being suspended. This notification also mentions how to toggle the effects back via this key combination. I have a dual core AMD 4850e CPU with 2.5 GHz, and on-board Radeon HD3200 video (using the open-source radeon driver). Which seems to be barely enough to run KDE4 (using six desktops and running much stuff I must admit). top gives these values, sampled over two minutes: 27% X 16% kwin 13% plasma-desktop 5% amarok 5% dbus-daemon 3% udisks-daemon 3% akonadi_imap_re 3% akonadiserver 3% mysqld 2% kget 2% knotify4 > > You can also edit ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc, and set Enabled=false in > > the [Compositing] section. > > That would not be a global fix. That file doesn't even exist on a new > install until after KDE gets started, and then only for each individual's > first login. Right, I just mentioned it as yet another way to turn it off. Now let's both forget about it, as Stephen provided a much better solution. Wonko ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
[kde] KDE4 Shortcuts and performance (was Re: Re: disable fx prior to first 4.6 startups)
Alex Schuster wrote, On 07/07/2011 05:35 PM: > Felix Miata writes: > >> On 2011/07/07 22:54 (GMT+0200) Alex Schuster composed: > >>> Try Alt+Shift+F12, this toggles the desktop effects. I use it on a PC >>> (not >> >> Another hotkey combination I'll probably forget as fast as I discovered >> it, or at least not remember when I need to. > > I know it well, because I get notifications frequently that my system is too > slow and that the desktops effects are being suspended. This notification > also mentions how to toggle the effects back via this key combination. I was hoping there'd be someway to get a list of active shortcuts, but so far haven't found a good way. There's some inkling of a possibly incomplete implementation (or just one i don't yet know how to use) at: qdbus org.kde.kglobalaccel /component/kwin org.kde.kglobalaccel.Component.shortcutNames (i see the shortcut names, but not the keybindings for the names) e.g. $ qdbus org.kde.kglobalaccel /component/kwin org.kde.kglobalaccel.Component.shortcutNames | grep -i Compos Suspend Compositing So, the best i can find for hotkeys is: kcmshell4 keys standard_actions You can then hit the "File" widget on the right in the "Global Keyboard Shortcuts' module and export everything to a file like "/tmp/keys.kksrc', then do: kreadconfig --file /tmp/keys.kksrc --group 'kwin' --group 'Global Shortcuts' --key 'Suspend Compositing' Alt+Shift+F12 I'm still not clear on the entire distinction between "standard actions" and "global shortcuts" within KDE4. > I have a dual core AMD 4850e CPU with 2.5 GHz, and on-board Radeon HD3200 > video (using the open-source radeon driver). Which seems to be barely enough > to run KDE4 (using six desktops and running much stuff I must admit). top > gives these values, sampled over two minutes: > > 27% X > 16% kwin > 13% plasma-desktop >5% amarok >5% dbus-daemon >3% udisks-daemon >3% akonadi_imap_re >3% akonadiserver >3% mysqld >2% kget >2% knotify4 I had to buy a new graphics card for my Dell T3500 ( Intel E5520 ) to even sustain a KDE4 session. (was an nVidia NVS295, is now an nVidia GeForce GTS 450) I was having 5 second delays during window switching. 30% 'X' CPU usage just moving the mouse from one konsole to another and back/forth. Now, instead of it being hair-tearing-out slow, it's just mildly annoying (i think the GTS450 is roughly 10-20X overall performance of the NVS295) . I tried a half-dozen different nVidia drivers (2 of which were latest betas) (i'm not able to use nouveau, or at least can't figure out how to have it work with my card AND my two monitors. I also had to give up running my two monitors as independent X11 screens, one horiz, one vertical (documentation), because KDE4's kwin doesn't support multiple screens.) I'm still having trouble with redraw problems. holes in windows, partial redraws, taking many seconds to repaint an entire window, titlebars being half redrawn (only the bottom horizontal half gets redrawn)... That's not necessarily all KDE4's fault, but i didn't have any of this on KDE3 (Debian Lenny vs Debian Squeeze) I.E. i'm not a happy camper. I have to have "effects enabled" to mitigate this somewhat. (but all the effects are off) I've played with running '--graphicssystem raster' and 'opengl' for kwin, konsole, plasma-desktop, nothing seems to solidly help. Now, i'm one of those people that has upto 50 firefox windows and 200-300 tabs open. In KDE3 this was not a problem (even with the crappy NVS295 card) In KDE4 i can not even RUN with that profile at all, the system stops responding entirely. I'm Waiting on "Squeeze and a Half" which hopefully will have KDE4 4.6 or greater (waiting, waiting, waiting) ( production work desktop, so i can't be diddling with 'sid', 'testing'...) --stephen -- Stephen Dowdy - Systems Administrator - NCAR/RAL 303.497.2869 - sdo...@ucar.edu- http://www.ral.ucar.edu/~sdowdy/ ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
[kde] Re: disable fx prior to first 4.6 startups
Felix Miata posted on Thu, 07 Jul 2011 17:29:52 -0400 as excerpted: > On 2011/07/07 22:54 (GMT+0200) Alex Schuster composed: > >> schrieb Felix Miata: > >>> I've done several new installations lately, openSUSE 11.4 and Kubuntu >>> 11.04, all on i865G video, in each case doing system updates (to e.g. >>> 4.6.4) prior to first X start. All have been very difficult to get >>> into anything after starting X, including systemsettings to turn off >>> the broken desktop FX. Phantom windows come and go, including main >>> menu& panel& clock settings, How on further i865G installations can >>> I configure a system globally to disable desktop FX by default? Will >>> it be the same for 4.7? > >> I'm not sure if I understand this right... so the active desktop >> effects mess up everything, and it is even hard to start systemsettings >> and turn them off? > > Exactly. I can rarely remember the run command hotkey. If I did, I'd > open Konsole and try doing things from that, or run command. > >> Try Alt+Shift+F12, this toggles the desktop effects. I use it on a PC >> (not > > Another hotkey combination I'll probably forget as fast as I discovered > it, or at least not remember when I need to. FWIW, for such things I tend to (try to) remember mostly that something is /possible/, along with enough about it to look it up again or ask about it later, should the need arise, as opposed to (ineffectively) trying to remember specific details. The more general approach seems to work quite well, for me, as I'm able to retain general data about far more "tricks and workarounds" than I might otherwise remember, generally enough to successfully look it up later, if it proves to be needed. This stands me in good stead not only personally but in all the various lists I follow, where I can thus more often be of help to someone experiencing an issue I'd never come across on my own. In this case, it sounds like you tend to have access to more than a single computer. As such, all you need to remember is that there is such a keyboard shortcut, and you can look up the details on a working system, should you need it. But chances are, after doing that a couple of times, you'll remember it anyway, because then you'll have enough additional actual experience with it to create an associated memory that's much harder to forget the details about, than some arbitrary hotkey combo with no actual experience to back it up. What I'd therefore try to remember in this case, is that such a hotkey- combo exists, and where one finds it on a working system -- in the same place one might find other similar hotkey-combos, in kcontrol (systemsettings that aren't system-settings -- actually the problem you have here but see below, but rather, user-specific kde settings, so the kde3 term kcontrol remains far more accurate and is thus the term I use). In kcontrol, the key is to remember to look for shortcuts. In this case, it's under common appearance and behavior, shortcuts and gestures. Once there, one has to choose between three different modules, custom, standard, or global, and getting the right one the first time might be difficult. But there's only three, so if one isn't it, the next is easy enough to switch to. In this case, we want global keyboard shortcuts. Then you must figure out which kde component that shortcut controls. Looking at the available choices, kwin looks likely, and indeed, that's where the setting is found. Then you have to find a description that matches your memory of the function you're trying to find the hotkey for. The keywords "suspend" and "compositing", whichever one you happen to remember easiest, is next. Sure enough, "suspend compositing" is a listed action. Clicking it lets you see what the default shortcut is, for that. So if all you remember is that it's compositing that you're trying to control and that there's a hotkey for it, plus have the general knowledge that such settings are configured in kcontrol/systemsettings (that aren't systemsettings...) you should be able to look up the specific hotkey on a working system, looking for shortcuts in kcontrol, and using general logic to find the specific module and setting after that. Meanwhile, it won't help here but for actually use and FWIW, I've reassigned most of the various kwin shortcuts I actually use to winkey- modifier shortcuts. In kde, the windows key is normally listed as meta (or occasionally as super), but remembering win-X, where X is usually the first letter of what I'm trying to do, and the winkey is associated with kwin, that is, windows functions, is a whole lot easier than the arbitrary alt-shift-control-fN keys that kde defaults to. So win-s toggles suspend compositing here, win-g triggers the desktop-grid effect, win-c triggers the cube effect, win-ctrl-s (win-s being already taken) toggles the snow effect, etc. (win-end closes a window, win-pgup maximizes, win-pgdn minimiz
[kde] Re: KDE4 Shortcuts and performance (was Re: Re: disable fx prior to first 4.6 startups)
Stephen Dowdy posted on Thu, 07 Jul 2011 19:31:50 -0600 as excerpted: > production work desktop, so i can't be diddling with 'sid', 'testing'... That's what a second install on a different partition is for... assuming you have root, it appears you do, and a large enough hard drive. =:^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
[kde] Re: KDE4 Shortcuts and performance (was Re: Re: disable fx prior to first 4.6 startups)
Stephen Dowdy posted on Thu, 07 Jul 2011 19:31:50 -0600 as excerpted: > I had to buy a new graphics card for my Dell T3500 ( Intel E5520 ) to > even sustain a KDE4 session. (was an nVidia NVS295, is now an nVidia > GeForce GTS 450) > > I was having 5 second delays during window switching. 30% 'X' > CPU usage just moving the mouse from one konsole to another and > back/forth. > > Now, instead of it being hair-tearing-out slow, it's just mildly > annoying [...] (i'm not able to use nouveau, or at least can't > figure out how to have it work with my card AND my two monitors. I also > had to give up running my two monitors as independent X11 screens, one > horiz, one vertical (documentation), because KDE4's kwin doesn't support > multiple screens.) FWIW, I bought a new card for kde4 as well. My old one was a years-old Radeon 9200, but it couldn't handle OpenGL/3D at the dual-monitor desktop sizes a run, and amd finally killed ati's no-free-drivers-cooperation policy, so Radeons newer than the r2xx series finally have reasonable native freedomware support. =:^) I've been *VERY* happy with my choice, a Radeon hd4650 (rv730 chip). It's well supported by the native freedomware xorg/mesa/kernel drivers, and has dual DVI outputs, an upgrade from the single DVI, single VGA, 9200. Xorg and kde work very well with it. I'm running dual full-HD 1080p monitors (1920x1080, stacked for 1920x2160, get nice effects, etc. If you do try a Radeon upgrade, note that the hd4xxx series is the r7xx chips, the latest of that design sequence. With newer hardware, the support isn't stable yet, tho it should be stable upstream (however long that'd take to hit Debian whatever I don't know), hopefully within the year or at the latest, by early next year. So depending on your tolerance for pre-production-grade support, you're likely best off with the r7xx series, hd4xxx cards, which is good as they should be reasonably low priced, now. (Hopefully you have pcie, I still have agp, and the newer chips are pcie so require a pcie/agp bridge chip which ups the price and significantly lowers the commodity of the hardware; I paid $100 for my 1-gig card, at Fry's Electronics probably about a year and a half ago, now, kde 4.3 timeframe, I believe.) With the hd4650, the freedomware drivers have supported both outputs since before I got it, and randr works well, altho until kde 4.4 era, kde had some problems with randr and I had to use xrandr instead of kde's krandrtray and kcontrol graphics hardware config applet. With kde 4.5 and later, kwin and the kde graphics config have worked well with it, and I can play around with randr rotation as I wish. So your one monitor in landscape mode and one in portrait mode shouldn't be an issue at all. As for multiple screens (zaphod mode)... kde is actually starting to support that. Reports are that with 4.6 the basic support is there and sort of working, but there are bugs. 4.7 should be more stable in that regard. But with native xorg/kernel drivers at least, randr is replacing xinerama (real xinerama, the hints it provided to window managers, etc, have long since been absorbed into main X and/or randr, so building various apps with xinerama support remains a good idea), multiple screens, etc, tho I understand nVidia has been resistant to the whole idea and randr continues to be broken with nvidia drivers. Still, with a card from a manufacturer that properly supports freedomware instead of fighting it, randr works quite well now, and things are looking up. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
[kde] Re: disable fx prior to first 4.6 startups
On 2011/07/07 15:53 (GMT-0600) Stephen Dowdy composed:
> alternatively, programmatically:
> kwin_compositing_active=$(qdbus org.kde.kwin /KWin
> org.kde.KWin.compositingActive)
> [ "${kwin_compositing_active}" = "true" ]&& qdbus org.kde.kwin
> org.kde.KWin.toggleCompositing
> I prefer to state modifications to config files in terms of
> k{read,write}config
> statements, as these should work regardless of the distro (i think). This
> should make it easier for end-users to get the desired effect w/o having to
> hunt around or try to figure out why a section/key/file don't exist.
> Just Cut/Paste and voila' (crossing fingers...)
> This will work to disable compositing for the user that runs it (after logout
> and log-back-in, or if they've never logged in yet:
> kwriteconfig --file kwinrc --group Compositing --key Enabled false
> This should work to create a SITE-specific (or machine specific)
> Override (that should not be touched by system updates). This will/should
> create files, group sections, and keys as appropriate
> if they don't already exist.
>
> kde_etc_config=$(kde4-config --path config | cut -f2 -d:)
> kwriteconfig --file ${kde_etc_config}/kwinrc --group Compositing --key
> Enabled false
>
> At least this all "Works for Me(tm)" ;)
I'll keep that in mind, but I just stumbled onto something that looks
(possibly) easier, and even more global (since it's in /etc/, where global
config files belong) on the ATI mailing list.
http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-driver-ati/2011-July/020647.html
I put a file:
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/composite.conf with the following:
Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Disable"
EndSection
I almost always need tweaks in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
anyway, so this would be a minor change to what I'm already doing, if it
works regardless of distro. I'm usually multibooting, and all distros added
after the first on a system I typically pre-config with things like HOSTNAME,
exports, profile.local, resolv.conf and more.
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[kde] Re: disable fx prior to first 4.6 startups
On 2011/07/08 01:35 (GMT+0200) Alex Schuster composed: > I have a dual core AMD 4850e CPU with 2.5 GHz, and on-board Radeon HD3200 > video (using the open-source radeon driver). Which seems to be barely enough > to run KDE4 (using six desktops and running much stuff I must admit). top > gives these values, sampled over two minutes: >27% X >16% kwin >13% plasma-desktop > 5% amarok > 5% dbus-daemon > 3% udisks-daemon > 3% akonadi_imap_re > 3% akonadiserver > 3% mysqld > 2% kget > 2% knotify4 KDE 3.5.10 on P4HT 3.4G & 4G DDR2-800; 32bit 2.6.31; rv380 Radeon running FOSS driver: uptime 16 days %CPU%MEMCommand 1 9.7 seamonkey-bin (2.2, 14 CZ tabs, 32 browser tabs) 2 6.8 Xorg 2 3.9 firefox-bin (3.6.18, only Flash-enabled Gecko) 0 3.3 seamonkey-bin (2.1, mail) 1 3.2 firefox-bin (5.0) 1 2.7 firefox (2.0.0.20) 0 1.7 konqueror 0 0.6 kpdf 0 0.5 kicker 0 0.5 ksnapshot 0 0.4 konsole 0 0.4 kwin 0 0.4 kded 0 0.4 konsole 0 0.4 ksirc 0 0.4 plugin-containe 1 0.4 kcmshell 0 0.3 kmix 0 0.3 kdesktop -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
