Re: [kde] How to setup dual monitor in kde?
Marcelo Magno T. Sales posted on Sat, 26 May 2012 20:31:11 -0300 as excerpted: > I'm running 4.8.2, Ubuntu packages. However, since yesterday, the > configuration saved as default in System Settings began to stick. Now I > can logout and login again and the monitors configuration stays as I had > left it. I didn't do anything different, there were no updates... Don't > know why it works now (not complaining, not complaining at all! :) ) > However, right after this began to work, this other problem showed up: > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=300642 There's a number of bugs that sounds very much like. Here's the one it sounds most like, except yours isn't NEARLY as bad, with the link to a comment of mine summarizing the fixes that worked for various people. But this one is marked resolved/fixed, so your problem may be related but it shouldn't be exactly the same. However, some of the fixes/workarounds in my list may well help. Panels and windows hidden behind desktop background at start https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=260360#c75 (The whole bug history is a rather long, but it reads a bit like a detective novel. Some people, both users and devs, get a bit frustrated, too, spicing it up a bit! If you have time to read it all, it really is fascinating, and gives an interesting glimpse into just how hard some of these bugs are to nail down!) There's another family of bugs that's a bit different, but possibly related, that there's now a somewhat easy fix for. One of the dups is mine (mine was filed earlier but there were more people on the other bug already, so when it became apparent they were dups, I suggested mine dup the later one). Auto-hiding panel sometimes moves to middle of the screen when being viewed https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=272663 The easy fix is, without kde running, move ~/.kde/share/config/plasma- desktoprc somewhere else (I'd say delete, but moving it is safer, since you can put it back if necessary, ~/.kde is the default from kde, but it's ~/.kde4 on some distros). That file contains mostly "trivial" settings like which side a panel is on and whether it's always-shown, auto-hide, etc, plus window sizes for a number of dialogs, etc. Nothing so major it's going to be a huge loss. You'll have to reset the panel location and size and perhaps a few other things, but if it's part of the same bug family, deleting the file will fix the problem, and it won't be back, at least immediately. At least with that family of bugs, removing that file is all that's necessary. On my request, someone posted a copy of the "bad" file, along with a diff between it and what kde recreated that worked correctly, but there wasn't any obviously smoking gun in it, so I still don't know the problem, but hopefully it'll help the devs track it down. Also, my bug report had a bisect to the original commit that first triggered the problem for me, back in 4.6.2 IIRC, tho that commit was a fix for something else and apparently simply triggered a latent bug. But between the two, hopefully a dev now has enough information to be able to fix that when they get a chance to really look into it, now. Anyway, if your bug is fixed by killing plasma-desktoprc, it's very likely a dup of some sort, even if the symptoms are a bit different. I'd suggest putting a link from one bug to the other at least, and letting a kde bug wrangler decide whether to dup it or not, but only if killing plasma-desktoprc fixes the problem. (There's another, similarly named file, plasma-desktop-appletsrc, that is a **VERY** important file for people who've customized quite a bit, as it contains the main configuration for all the panels, activities, etc, along with all the plasmoids they contain. I'd suggest backing up that file, once you get your desktop the way you want it, as it does seem a bit of a magnet for bugs of its own, it's very nearly too complex to properly edit by hand (tho I've done it, but I don't ever want to have to do so again!) and if you end up deleting it, you start from scratch to reconfigure all panels and activities along with the plasmoids in them, which is pretty major if you're as much of a customizer as I am, and it seems you're at least getting there!) > It seems I can never have KDE working 100%. Every time I fix a problem, > another one shows up. Even so, KDE is still better than the available > alternatives. At least KDE ends up doing what I want after some hard > work. Yes, indeed. Back in the still extremely broken kde4 days of 4.2 or so, when kde devs were insisting kde4 was ready for normal use at the very same time they continued to say various bits of kde3 functionality weren't yet even ported to kde4, I complained about that, saying no way was it ready for regular use. IMO it only got there with late 4.5, which really should have been 4.0, with 4.2 actually still very alpha (4.3 beta, 4.4 rc...). But thru all of it, I stayed
Re: [kde] wtf fucked up power devil
Le samedi 26 mai 2012 18:51:23 dE . a écrit : > > I just noticed this recently, and this's a complete turn off! There > should've been profiles!! There still are sort of profiles, only that now they're linked to activities[1]. Meaning depending on your current activity, you can have different suspend timeout values. As for cpufreq and other configuration, as mentioned previously, laptop-mode-tools does it pretty well, I suggest you configure it there. IMHO this is the "correct" solution : advanced users who know what cpufreq is have one place to configure it, those who don't should probably not touch those settings and use the distro-provided defaults. As for the presentation mode, now the app presenting should inhibit it itself (I think okular does). And this is exactly what the "enable powermanagement" checkbox does : disable powermanagement features.[2] Martin [1] http://drfav.wordpress.com/2011/10/02/forge-sprint-2011-power-management- and-its-future/ [2] http://drfav.wordpress.com/2012/02/22/fixing-lid-close-suspension-in-4-8-1/ ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
[kde] Social Aggregation of Data
Hello KDE! I've been using KDE for quite some time and I personally really, really love the environment. Everything's nicely tucked together, especially with contact communication and what not. However, I do feel like it's missing some elements. For example, when I browse the Web via rekonq, I noticed that a menu option to share the currently viewed URL appears. By semantics, I figured that it would allow me to pick a service to send this URL to and go about my way. It opened up a composer for KMail. Now, I wasn't totally upset, I was planning on e-mailing the link anyways. But there's links that I'd like to just tweet or share on Facebook (or D*). I figured that something like a social media module of sorts with plug-ins for different platforms (could use KNewStuff to add more services) that could hook into KMainWindow or provide a special UI element that, with a specific medium of data, would redistribute the content in question. For example, if there's a image on my computer that I downloaded from my camera, without having to open Gwenview, I could just right-click the image, select "Share...", pick a service (given that the image is uploaded as well) and watch the job occur in the background. I figured it'd be a cool idea; and I'd consider working on a library with a sample application to test it out. I'm planning on starting tonight (after work) so I could [hopefully, with school] have something before Friday. I wanted to get the opinion of KDE users themselves. Ideas? Rants? Insults? :D All welcome. -- Jacky Alcine One Vision. One Purpose. We Are the Synthetic Intellect Institute http://www.thesii.org -- -- Synthetic Intellect Institute One Vision, One Purpose Trustee at www.thesii.org -- ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] KAddressbook Spawning Tags (Update)
Hi, sorry for not replying, I've been away for the week Le mardi 22 mai 2012 09:50:52 vous avez écrit : > Greetings. > > Thank you again for all the help messages, it does make a difference when > new avenues are pointed out to remove the frustration of not seeing > solutions. > > Further to my last message, the spawning tags have mutated overnight. What > was two on the contact I use as reference is now 17 tags, of which one was > added by me yesterday. > > The extra tags were created involuntarily by nemopuk last night with all my > attempts to deselect and reselect and delete. But at least they don't seem > to be breeding out of control on their own any more! That's progress, I suppose... > > When I gave up last night, new tags would be displayed in the Contact data > view as a "nemopuk + code" entry. This morning that changed to display the > correct tag description in the contact view, but the tag description that > displayed last night in the tag selection view has now changed to be just a > tickbox with no description next to it like the tags I found immediately > after populating the new user's contact list with my data. Where did all your tags come from? Are they stored in the vcard? AFAIK nepomuk starts out with no tags at all (unless it uses the vcard CATEGORIES/NOTE property, I really don't know). > What is strange to me and perhaps someone can explain to me, is this. This > is a new user on the same system with the same data. I accept something is > broken in the original version, but this should have been solved with the > standard default setup of the new user, the new user starting out with the > invisible tags in the tags view is however even more useless than the > original broken version. Were the tags there before you imported your contacts? If yes, it may be your distro's default setup that is broken. > > Either the developers didn't test for this behaviour before release, or > there is still something I can change on my system to resolve this. If > there is I will try, but once again I am stumped. Me too, as I don't really understand what's going on. All I can recommend you to do is always do things one step at a time, then check if everything still works. > Should I report this as a bug, or is there something else anyone can propose > I try before I do that? Try to find a way to reproduce it, if possible without any random behaviour. I'd suggest using a small(er) contact list (using a new user, so that you know that the kde setup isn't broken). and trying to import it. Then report it. Martin ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] Social Aggregation of Data
Hi Jacky, On Sunday, 2012-05-27, Jacky Alciné wrote: > Hello KDE! > > I've been using KDE for quite some time and I personally really, really > love the environment. Everything's nicely tucked together, especially with > contact communication and what not. However, I do feel like it's missing > some elements. For example, when I browse the Web via rekonq, I noticed > that a menu option to share the currently viewed URL appears. By > semantics, I figured that it would allow me to pick a service to send this > URL to and go about my way. > > It opened up a composer for KMail. Now, I wasn't totally upset, I was > planning on e-mailing the link anyways. But there's links that I'd like to > just tweet or share on Facebook (or D*). I figured that something like a > social media module of sorts with plug-ins for different platforms (could > use KNewStuff to add more services) that could hook into KMainWindow or > provide a special UI element that, with a specific medium of data, would > redistribute the content in question. For example, if there's a image on > my computer that I downloaded from my camera, without having to open > Gwenview, I could just right-click the image, select "Share...", pick a > service (given that the image is uploaded as well) and watch the job occur > in the background. > > I figured it'd be a cool idea; and I'd consider working on a library with a > sample application to test it out. I'm planning on starting tonight (after > work) so I could [hopefully, with school] have something before Friday. I > wanted to get the opinion of KDE users themselves. > > Ideas? Rants? Insults? :D All welcome. I think the Plasma Active workspace implementation (KDE Plasma workspace for tablet devices) has something like that. I think they call it "Share-Like- Connect". Now, assuming that said technology will also work on Plasma Desktop Workspace (after all that is using the same core technologies), it could be that this is more a matter of adding support for that to desktop applications. My suggestion would be to get in contact with the Plasma developers over at plasma-de...@kde.org to see if the Share-Like-Connect facility can be reused or at least used as a starting point. Cheers, Kevin -- Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer KDE user support, developer mentoring signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] wtf fucked up power devil
On Sáb, 2012-05-26 at 18:49 +0530, dE . wrote: > On 05/25/12 00:57, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > Wtf power devil has no more profiles, > > why some many regressions on one thing that was working so well > > , now have a stupid check box , > > Power management enable , wtf that means ? what means disable power > > management ? is disable this tramp ? . > > > > Cpu freq , not enter in screen saver (on presentations ) why this > > functions was removed ? > > > > I may want power save on AC Power or not want power saver on battery > > but is not a choice , who is the brain that think we are all stupids . > > > > > > Power management enable is the same of "power saved enabled" ? > > > > What version of KDE and in which distro? Fedora 16, KDE 4.8.3 -- Sérgio M. B. ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
[kde] Screen saver not working
Hi .. I can not get the screen saver to work automatically I am running KDE 4.8.3 (4.8.3) Arch Linux x86_64 kernel 3.3.7 It had been working until the update to 4.8.3 i can set it up test it all ok but will not start automatically . I have most of the power control stuff turned off as it is a desktop machine that runs 24/7 i also have dmps set to off as i have for the last gawd knows how many years never have used dmps . Pete .. -- Linux 7-of-9 3.3.7-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue May 22 00:26:26 CEST 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] Screen saver not working
You should check the running services in systemsettings. - Support software for non profit, buy Android phones. On May 27, 2012 8:58 PM, "P .NIKOLIC" wrote: > Hi .. > > I can not get the screen saver to work automatically > > I am running KDE 4.8.3 (4.8.3) Arch Linux x86_64 kernel 3.3.7 > > It had been working until the update to 4.8.3 i can set it up test > it all ok but will not start automatically . I have most of the power > control stuff turned off as it is a desktop machine that runs 24/7 i > also have dmps set to off as i have for the last gawd knows how many > years never have used dmps . > > Pete .. > > > > -- > Linux 7-of-9 3.3.7-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue May 22 00:26:26 CEST 2012 > x86_64 GNU/Linux > ___ > This message is from the kde mailing list. > Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. > Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. > More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html. > ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] wtf fucked up power devil
On second though it's a good thing. It simplifies things. - Support software for non profit, buy Android phones. On May 27, 2012 4:19 PM, "Martin Bednar" wrote: > Le samedi 26 mai 2012 18:51:23 dE . a écrit : > > > > I just noticed this recently, and this's a complete turn off! There > > should've been profiles!! > > There still are sort of profiles, only that now they're linked to > activities[1]. Meaning depending on your current activity, you can have > different suspend timeout values. As for cpufreq and other configuration, > as > mentioned previously, laptop-mode-tools does it pretty well, I suggest you > configure it there. IMHO this is the "correct" solution : advanced users > who > know what cpufreq is have one place to configure it, those who don't should > probably not touch those settings and use the distro-provided defaults. > > As for the presentation mode, now the app presenting should inhibit it > itself > (I think okular does). And this is exactly what the "enable > powermanagement" > checkbox does : disable powermanagement features.[2] > > Martin > > [1] > http://drfav.wordpress.com/2011/10/02/forge-sprint-2011-power-management- > and-its-future/ > [2] > http://drfav.wordpress.com/2012/02/22/fixing-lid-close-suspension-in-4-8-1/ > ___ > This message is from the kde mailing list. > Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. > Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. > More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html. ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] How to setup dual monitor in kde?
That's what KDE is all about. With each release there're more regressions than fixes in an attempt to add new 'features'. You should try XFCE for the ultimate stable experience. A workaround is to use KDE is Debian stable, that way you can ensure there're no regressions atleast. - Support software for non profit, buy Android phones. On May 27, 2012 5:02 AM, "Marcelo Magno T. Sales" wrote: > ** > > Em sábado, 26 de maio de 2012, às 19:01:40, dE . escreveu: > > > On 05/25/12 01:05, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: > > > > 2012/5/24 Stef Bon: > > > >> On 05/24/2012 07:22 PM, Nowardev-Team wrote: > > > >>> NB THE bash script must be executable to do that just do > > > >>> > > > >>> chmod +x your_name_bashscript_for_xrandr > > > >>> > > > >>> *to see your aviable options you can just type on konsole > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> xrandr > > > >>> * > > > >> > > > >> No, > > > >> > > > >> it's just possible using the display settings in the settings. Select > > > >> Display and Monitor, select > > > >> Multiple Monitors, and there you are. > > > >> > > > >> It works very good. > > > >> > > > >> Stef > > > > > > > > It works, but after a reboot KDE forgets what had been configured and > > > > goes back to clone mode again. > > > > Even if you "Save as default" in System Settings, the configuration is > > > > lost after a reboot. > > > > Is there a way to make it stick? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Marcelo > > > > ___ > > > > This message is from the kde mailing list. > > > > Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. > > > > Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. > > > > More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html. > > > > > > This's not reproducible in my case, which version of KDE are you running? > > > ___ > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm running 4.8.2, Ubuntu packages. However, since yesterday, the > configuration saved as default in System Settings began to stick. Now I can > logout and login again and the monitors configuration stays as I had left > it. > > I didn't do anything different, there were no updates... Don't know why it > works now (not complaining, not complaining at all! :) ) > > However, right after this began to work, this other problem showed up: > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=300642 > > > > It seems I can never have KDE working 100%. Every time I fix a problem, > another one shows up. Even so, KDE is still better than the available > alternatives. At least KDE ends up doing what I want after some hard work. > But Gnome and Unity don't, no matter how hard I try :) > > > > []'s > > Marcelo > > > > ___ > This message is from the kde mailing list. > Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. > Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. > More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html. > ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] Screen saver not working
On Mon, 28 May 2012 11:43:44 +0530 "dE ." wrote: > You should check the running services in systemsettings. > > All running except power management that i do not need and has been disabled for ever but the screensaver has always worked perfectly .. Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.3.7-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue May 22 00:26:26 CEST 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
