Re: [kde] Qtdmm

2012-08-28 Thread Thorsten Schnebeck
Am Montag 27 August 2012, 11:21:45 schrieb Peter Nikolic:
 Hi folks .
 
 I useed to use Qtdmm on the older system at home but that box died so
 the rebuilt box is up to date KDE 4.9.00 now qtdmm doe not run  i have
 been looking around for something to replace it with does anyone know
 of something or even if qtdmm is being ported
 
 TIA   Pete

Hmm, maybe a distribution issue? Here I use Kubuntu 12.04 with KDE 4.9.00 and 
qtdmm 0.8.13 starts fine (using qt3lib-mt).

HTH

  Thorsten
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Re: [kde] How can I bring back Konqueror as my man page viewer?

2012-08-28 Thread dE .

On 08/28/12 05:32, Duncan wrote:

dE . posted on Mon, 27 Aug 2012 20:47:10 +0530 as excerpted:


On 08/21/12 10:01, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

Thank you.  I applied it and rebuilt.  It doesn't fix the problem.  It
only fixes a bug very specific to man:tar.

This is what happens when I type man:tar:

   http://i46.tinypic.com/2yll3pl.png

When I then click on the one I want, this happens:

   http://i50.tinypic.com/x4m637.png

So nothing changed.

You've to wait for KDE 4.1, or a bugfix release or build form the GIT.

4.1?  Do you mean 4.9.1, or is this a timewarped post from 2007/2008?

=:^)



Oh... sorry.
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Re: [kde] Qtdmm

2012-08-28 Thread Peter Nikolic
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 23:59:06 + (UTC)
Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote:

 Peter Nikolic posted on Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:21:45 +0100 as excerpted:
 
  I useed to use Qtdmm on the older system at home but that box died
  so the rebuilt box is up to date KDE 4.9.00 now qtdmm doe not run
  i have been looking around for something to replace it with does
  anyone know of something or even if qtdmm is being ported
 
 FWIW, a quick google told me that qtdmm is qt-based (qt2 and qt3, 
 apparently not ported to qt4) digital multimeter readout and recorder 
 software.  IOW, it's designed to hook up to a specific type of
 electronic meter hardware, without which it's likely to be rather
 useless.
 
 At this point, it's a pretty safe bet that if it hasn't been ported
 to qt4 already, it's not going to be.  Qt4 has been mature for some
 time now, and development effort is now focused on qt5 (which was due
 for a beta about now, but what with qt ownership transfer from Nokia,
 the beta has been delayed a bit), so while existing qt4-based apps
 (including all of kde4) are likely to continue to be supported for
 awhile, if it's not on qt4 yet, chances are it's not now going to be
 ported.
 
 There's a smaller chance it'd be ported to qt5, skipping qt4, but
 that's not likely either, as if it hasn't been ported by now, chances
 are that it's basically dead, unless someone else decides to pick up
 development.
 
 
 Replacement is the next question.  It's here where even a short 
 description like I provided above would have been helpful, as there's
 a fair chance that people might not know what qtdmm is, but still
 know about a replacement, if they knew what they were looking for a 
 replacement for.
 
 The first thing I'd suggest is doing the google I just did, if
 necessary to find contact details for the author, then get in touch
 with him and simply ask.  Maybe it simply hasn't been ported because
 there's already a better solution available, and he can suggest
 that.  Or maybe all he needs to know is that someone's still using
 the app and is interested. It could be he's done the port already,
 and just didn't think anyone was interested any longer so he never
 posted it.  It's simple enough to ask, and you'll never know if you
 don't.
 
 
 Beyond that... I'm not an expert in the area by far, but what
 immediately struck me when looking at the screenshots is how similar
 the graphs looked to the routine voltage, power, etc, computer status
 graphs I run more or less constantly, here.  There's at least two
 whole entire kernel driver areas dedicated to drivers for sensors of
 that type, and quite a variety of software that can hook into them to
 drive graphing, logging, etc.  lm_sensors is lower level userland
 software that can be used to program and read these sensors and
 output to the text terminal or to a file, and there's a whole host of
 GUI software that builds on that. ksysguard (aka system monitor), the
 yasp-scripted plasmoid, and superkaramba are all kde4 based software
 that can be used for this, and there's gkrellem and various
 gdesklets, konqy, etc, for gtk and non-kde use.
 
 But, what I do NOT know is how well that existing software works with 
 generally external sensors, as its more common use and the way I use
 it here is to report on the computer's own system sensors.  I AM 
 sufficiently familiar with yasp-scripted and superkaramba at least,
 that I know if there's lower level drivers/software available for
 those external sensors that can make the information available either
 as text files (perhaps in the kernel's /sys tree) or output it to the
 text console as STDOUT, it's very possible to scrape that data and
 display it in the yasp-scripted or superkaramba GUI as text,
 bar-graphs or plotter/ line-graphs, as desired, because I do just
 that, file or STDOUT scraping, for a number of the outputs I display
 running plotters for, updating them once a second, here.
 
 The big question, then, is whether there's drivers or user-mode
 software available to take the raw output as presented by the
 external device and present it as a text file or as STDOUT.  Chances
 are, especially for relatively common devices, yes.  Linux has better
 support for this sort of thing now than ever before, with a lot of
 hardware manufacturers specifically cooperating with the Linux
 community to ensure that drivers are available for their hardware.
 
 That would explain why this specific specialized software hasn't been 
 ported -- no need as there's much more widely applicable general 
 solutions now available.
 
 But... not being a specialist in the area, I really don't know the 
 specifics.
 
 There are most likely area specific mailing lists and/or web forums 
 available, that would have better information.  I'd suggest googling, 
 maybe something line your hardware brand and model, and linux (with
 or without driver).  It's quite possible there's already quite a
 variety of supported software available and you 

Re: [kde] Qtdmm

2012-08-28 Thread Peter Nikolic
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 12:48:29 +0200
Thorsten Schnebeck thorsten.schneb...@gmx.net wrote:


 
 Hmm, maybe a distribution issue? Here I use Kubuntu 12.04 with KDE
 4.9.00 and qtdmm 0.8.13 starts fine (using qt3lib-mt).
 
 HTH
 
   Thorsten

Hu looks like qt3lib-mt  does not exists for Arch i will have to go
turn AUR upside down thanks for the heads up ..


Pete



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Re: [kde] Qtdmm

2012-08-28 Thread Thorsten Schnebeck
Am Dienstag 28 August 2012, 14:51:30 schrieb Peter Nikolic:
 On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 12:48:29 +0200
 
 Thorsten Schnebeck thorsten.schneb...@gmx.net wrote:
  Hmm, maybe a distribution issue? Here I use Kubuntu 12.04 with KDE
  4.9.00 and qtdmm 0.8.13 starts fine (using qt3lib-mt).
  
  HTH
  
Thorsten
 
 Hu looks like qt3lib-mt  does not exists for Arch i will have to go
 turn AUR upside down thanks for the heads up ..
 
 
 Pete

ups, its libqt3-mt :-)

http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/qt3/files/
shows
/opt/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
and this should work. But qtdmm need to find the correct lib. ldd is your 
friend :-)

Bye

  Thorsten
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