Re: [kde] How to use a bluetooth headset?
On Wednesday 24 Oct 2012 21:03 my mailbox was graced by a message from Marcelo Magno T. Sales who wrote: When I connect a wired headset, it is automatically used by the system (and the speakers are automatically turned off). Completely different: when you plug in a wired headset, the changeover from loudspeakers to headset is a hardware thing, not KDE; plugging in the headset jack actually moves a mechanical switch to turn off the speakers. Cheers, Ron. -- A fractal is by definition a set for which the Hausdorff Besicovitch dimension strictly exceeds the topological dimension. -- Mandelbrot -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] How to use a bluetooth headset?
Em quinta-feira, 25 de outubro de 2012, às 05:29:18, Duncan escreveu: Marcelo Magno T. Sales posted on Wed, 24 Oct 2012 21:03:34 -0300 as excerpted: I have a bluetooth headset which I can use perfectly well with my Android devices, but can't make it work with KDE. The KDE bluetooth application sees the headset, pears and connects to it, but the sound is still sent to the speakers even when the headset is connected. No sound is heard through the headset, only through the speakers. KMix and SystemSettings does not seem to have any option to direct the sound to the headset. When I connect a wired headset, it is automatically used by the system (and the speakers are automatically turned off). How do I make KDE use the bluetooth headset? There's a lot of levels at which this question could be asked... and answered. Unfortunately, you don't provide a lot of hints as to what level your actual intent was, except the conflicting hints of (1) asking about kde on a kde list, which suggests you know the actual hardware (computer side, it's obvious the bluetooth headset is working) and system drivers level is working and it's just kde-based-apps that aren't working, vs (2) you compare to a fully integrated hardware/software system normally sold as such, android-based devices (the phone/tablet/ whatever normally comes with android), indicating you're treating it as a single unitary whole, to kde, just a GUI desktop layer on top of... I just mentioned the android devices to make it clear that the headset is working fine and that I have a software problem that I think is in KDE, hence I ask in the KDE list. normally Linux, but it could be MS Windows or one of the BSDs, and if it's Linux it could be any one of a huge variety of distros, current or old version, on current or old hardware, and further, you mention nothing at all about the distro/platform you're on or whether it works in non-kde apps on the kde desktop, or whether it works on other desktops (gnome, unity, xfce, MS Windows), again suggesting you're considering it a single monolithic whole, which it definitely is *NOT*. I don't have any of those other desktops / operating system installed, just Linux + KDE. And the headset does not work for any application I run on this desktop. (...) Simple first: If non-kde apps and non-kde desktops are already working, and all you need is to get kde working... Then you need to look in kde's system settings (which are more kde settings than system settings, the kde3 name kcontrol thus being a more accurate name, but they decided to unhelpfully confuse things in kde4 and call it something it's pretty much not, system settings), under hardware, multimedia, phonon, and adjust the priority of the bluetooth sound device accordingly for the desired category (or for everything). The bluetooth headset does not appear there. Only the internal soundcard is listed. Anyway, I would expect KDE would have a more automated solution for directing sound to a connected headset than having to manually change the order in which phonon should use the available devices for each possible application category every time I connect and disconnect the headset... If you don't see any bluetooth sound devices in that list, then it's probably not a kde problem, but a system/platform problem. That's really out of scope for this list, but I'm guessing it's what you're seeing. I don't think so, since the headset appears in KDE's bluetooth application and in SystemSettings - Network and connectivity - Bluetooth. Besides, I can pair and connect the headset successfully there. Assuming you're running kde on some sort of Linux distro (or FreeBSD or whatever), you're probably best off finding the lists/forums/irc-channels for that distro/bsd and asking there. I'm running Kubuntu 12.04 x86_64. (...) Add any information you have about other bluetooth devices (say keyboards, or for that matter your android devices, paired over bluetooth) you have and whether they work fine over bluetooth with the computer, or not. I have a bluetooth keyboard + mouse kit (just one dongle for the two devices). They work perfectly. But this is another thing, because they do not use the bluetooth adapter embedded in the desktop, but their own provided bluetooth dongle, which doesn't require any configuration and works even before the OS is loaded. I don't think KDE or even the kernel know that these are bluetooth devices. I think the keyboard and mouse are presented to the system as regular USB devices. However, I can send files from the KDE desktop to my android devices using the embedded bluetooth adapter. Also mention whether /any/ apps, not just kde apps, play sound to the bluetooth headset or not. The common Firefox browser is gtk-based (Chrome/Chromium aren't kde based either, neither is Opera, all of which are browsers), for instance, so if it works with the bluetooth
Re: [kde] How to use a bluetooth headset?
Em quinta-feira, 25 de outubro de 2012, às 07:56:16, Renaud Olgiati escreveu: On Wednesday 24 Oct 2012 21:03 my mailbox was graced by a message from Marcelo Magno T. Sales who wrote: When I connect a wired headset, it is automatically used by the system (and the speakers are automatically turned off). Completely different: when you plug in a wired headset, the changeover from loudspeakers to headset is a hardware thing, not KDE; plugging in the headset jack actually moves a mechanical switch to turn off the speakers. I know, I just expected KDE would do the same thing for the bluetooth headset when it is connected. That's what any user would expect, I think. Obviously, it can't be done by hardware in this case, since bluetooth pairing and connecting are software processes. []'s Marcelo ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] How to use a bluetooth headset?
On Thursday, 2012-10-25, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: Hello, I have a bluetooth headset which I can use perfectly well with my Android devices, but can't make it work with KDE. The KDE bluetooth application sees the headset, pears and connects to it, but the sound is still sent to the speakers even when the headset is connected. No sound is heard through the headset, only through the speakers. KMix and SystemSettings does not seem to have any option to direct the sound to the headset. When I connect a wired headset, it is automatically used by the system (and the speakers are automatically turned off). How do I make KDE use the bluetooth headset? As far as I understand this is part of the things that PulseAudio takes care of. However, since I haven't had the need myself yet, I don't know which interface for controlling PulseAudio would currently be the recommended one. The Veromix Plasma applet might be able to do this. Cheers, Kevin -- Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer KDE user support, developer mentoring signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] How to use a bluetooth headset?
25.10.2012 04:03, Marcelo Magno T. Sales пишет: Hello, I have a bluetooth headset which I can use perfectly well with my Android devices, but can't make it work with KDE. The KDE bluetooth application sees the headset, pears and connects to it, but the sound is still sent to the speakers even when the headset is connected. No sound is heard through the headset, only through the speakers. KMix and SystemSettings does not seem to have any option to direct the sound to the headset. When I connect a wired headset, it is automatically used by the system (and the speakers are automatically turned off). How do I make KDE use the bluetooth headset? Thanks, If you system have pulseaudio installed and it support of bluez, you can use kmix hidden functionality: you can click on kmix icon, open mixer (i don't know how it is in English), open playback tab (not a playback devices) and .. right click on stream you want to play using bluetooth... You also can set in KDE sound settings (phonon settings) priority of devices. If you set bluetooth headset first then the sound will go to bluetooth automatically when it is connected. For example, some images: 1. kmix can show available devices (and bluetooth too): http://wstaw.org/m/2012/10/25/kmix_devices.png 2. you can switch devices for each streams: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/10/25/kmix_streams.png 3. you can change devices priorities in phonon settings: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/10/25/kmix_priorities.png 4. you can set bluetooth profile: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/10/25/bluetooth_set.png ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] How to use a bluetooth headset?
Em quinta-feira, 25 de outubro de 2012, às 18:51:18, Dmitry Ashkadov escreveu: 25.10.2012 04:03, Marcelo Magno T. Sales пишет: Hello, I have a bluetooth headset which I can use perfectly well with my Android devices, but can't make it work with KDE. The KDE bluetooth application sees the headset, pears and connects to it, but the sound is still sent to the speakers even when the headset is connected. No sound is heard through the headset, only through the speakers. KMix and SystemSettings does not seem to have any option to direct the sound to the headset. When I connect a wired headset, it is automatically used by the system (and the speakers are automatically turned off). How do I make KDE use the bluetooth headset? Thanks, If you system have pulseaudio installed and it support of bluez, you can use kmix hidden functionality: you can click on kmix icon, open mixer (i don't know how it is in English), open playback tab (not a playback devices) and .. right click on stream you want to play using bluetooth... You also can set in KDE sound settings (phonon settings) priority of devices. If you set bluetooth headset first then the sound will go to bluetooth automatically when it is connected. For example, some images: 1. kmix can show available devices (and bluetooth too): http://wstaw.org/m/2012/10/25/kmix_devices.png 2. you can switch devices for each streams: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/10/25/kmix_streams.png 3. you can change devices priorities in phonon settings: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/10/25/kmix_priorities.png 4. you can set bluetooth profile: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/10/25/bluetooth_set.png Thank you very much, your screenshots are very clarifying. So it seems my problem is that the headset is not available as an audio device for phonon, despite it can be paired and connected using the KDE's bluetooth app. Any idea on how can I debug this? Thanks, Marcelo ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
