Re: [kde] LibreOffice - no entry from applications

2013-05-21 Thread Burkhard Lück
Am Dienstag, 21. Mai 2013, 09:51:58 schrieb Kevin Wilson:
> Hello
> After switching to KDE I installed LibreOffice 4 from RPM.
> I cannot find a menu entry for it from under "Applications".
> Is there a way I can add a  menu entry?
> 
http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kde-workspace/kmenuedit/quickstart.html

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[kde] kde stops seeing Xonar Exxence soundcard

2013-05-21 Thread Jogchum Reitsma
I have no idea why, but suddenly kde fails to see my Xonar Essence sound 
card.


Yast (I'm running opensuse 12.2 on this box) still has it registered as 
the default sound card, and when playng a test sound through Yast, it 
works. So it's not a hardware problem.


But kde doesn't see it anymore, it's not listed anymore when configuring 
kmix.

It did so for, well, at least over a year...

I've thrown away .pulse, (found a comment on an Ubuntu forum which 
suggested that would help), but that didn't change anything.


Anyone an idea whats going on here, and how sound through my beautiful 
Xonar can be restored?

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Re: [kde] kde stops seeing Xonar Exxence soundcard

2013-05-21 Thread Jogchum Reitsma

Op 21-05-13 01:10, Duncan schreef:

Jogchum Reitsma posted on Mon, 20 May 2013 20:18:46 +0200 as excerpted:


I have no idea why, but suddenly kde fails to see my Xonar Essence sound
card.

Yast (I'm running opensuse 12.2 on this box) still has it registered as
the default sound card, and when playng a test sound through Yast, it
works. So it's not a hardware problem.

But kde doesn't see it anymore, it's not listed anymore when configuring
kmix. It did so for, well, at least over a year...

That's typically a problem with your phonon configuration or the phonon-
backend used.


These are configured in kde settings (accurate kde3 name kcontrol,
inaccurate kde4 name system settings, inaccurate because they're mostly
user-specific kde settings, NOT global system settings, but I believe
OpenSuSE calls them something else again...), hardware, multimedia,
phonon.

The left tab, device preferences, lets you configure for each "sound
role" the device priority stacking order.  Try testing each one, and move
the working ones to the top, then when you have the order you want, hit
the apply device list to... button, and chose the other roles you want to
apply it to as well.

If you're unhappy with the available list of devices and/or if you have
problems with devices disappearing and "new" ones popping up for no
reason, as I did back some time ago with the now deprecated phonon-xine
backend, consider switching backends.  I use the phonon-vlc backend here
and haven't had problems since I switched from phonon-xine to it, but the
default and now phonon-recommended backend is phonon-gstreamer.

(FWIW, I don't use the gstreamer backend here as many years and ancient
crufty versions ago I had problems with gstreamer, and haven't had it on
my system since.  I'm sure it works much better now than it did back
then, but there's a whole gstreamer ecosystem to install (which would
mean building them first, since I'm on gentoo) if I decided to try it,
and there have always been other alternatives that worked fine, so I've
never gotten around to trying it.)

I did take a look in the so-called KDE System settings on the tab you 
mention, but the Xonar isn't mentioned there too...


I'll upgrade to 12.3 and see what happens then.

Thanks!
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Re: [kde] kde stops seeing Xonar Exxence soundcard

2013-05-21 Thread Jogchum Reitsma

Op 21-05-13 07:29, tors...@tfrey.de schreef:

Am 21.05.2013 01:10, schrieb Duncan:

Jogchum Reitsma posted on Mon, 20 May 2013 20:18:46 +0200 as excerpted:

I have no idea why, but suddenly kde fails to see my Xonar Essence 
sound

card.

Yast (I'm running opensuse 12.2 on this box) still has it registered as
the default sound card, and when playng a test sound through Yast, it
works. So it's not a hardware problem.

But kde doesn't see it anymore, it's not listed anymore when 
configuring

kmix. It did so for, well, at least over a year...

That's typically a problem with your phonon configuration or the phonon-
backend used.


These are configured in kde settings (accurate kde3 name kcontrol,
inaccurate kde4 name system settings, inaccurate because they're mostly
user-specific kde settings, NOT global system settings, but I believe
OpenSuSE calls them something else again...), hardware, multimedia,
phonon.

The left tab, device preferences, lets you configure for each "sound
role" the device priority stacking order.  Try testing each one, and 
move

the working ones to the top, then when you have the order you want, hit
the apply device list to... button, and chose the other roles you 
want to

apply it to as well.

If you're unhappy with the available list of devices and/or if you have
problems with devices disappearing and "new" ones popping up for no
reason, as I did back some time ago with the now deprecated phonon-xine
backend, consider switching backends.  I use the phonon-vlc backend here
and haven't had problems since I switched from phonon-xine to it, but 
the

default and now phonon-recommended backend is phonon-gstreamer.

(FWIW, I don't use the gstreamer backend here as many years and ancient
crufty versions ago I had problems with gstreamer, and haven't had it on
my system since.  I'm sure it works much better now than it did back
then, but there's a whole gstreamer ecosystem to install (which would
mean building them first, since I'm on gentoo) if I decided to try it,
and there have always been other alternatives that worked fine, so I've
never gotten around to trying it.)



My advice is to upgrade to opensuse 12.3, which I personally consider 
as "rock stable". Some minor problems just disappeared.


I'll do that, but it is strange a sound card disappears from KDE, while 
it is still available for Yast...



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Re: [kde] LibreOffice - no entry from applications

2013-05-21 Thread Stephen Dowdy
Burkhard Lück wrote, On 05/21/2013 01:22 AM:
> Am Dienstag, 21. Mai 2013, 09:51:58 schrieb Kevin Wilson:
>> Hello
>> After switching to KDE I installed LibreOffice 4 from RPM.
>> I cannot find a menu entry for it from under "Applications".
>> Is there a way I can add a  menu entry?
>>
> http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kde-workspace/kmenuedit/quickstart.html


LibreOffice usually separates out the desktop stuff into a
subdirectory called "desktop-integration" where you should (maybe)
find an RPM/DEB/ETC that installs the XDG/FreeDesktop bits needed to
do this. (this includes all the Icons, MIME mappings, etc), so would
be preferred over manually adding Kickoff entries, if you can avoid
that.

Additionally, you might need to:

  kbuildsycoca4(or)kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental
  and/or logout/login again

as i've been only partially successful at times in getting the icons
to showup in the current session.

Debian Wheezy/KDE 4.8.4 seems even worse about not giving me proper
icon imagery until a logout/login cycle :-( We have an NFS shared
/usr/local/share/applications here where a firefox.desktop is
used.  In Firefox 21, the icon changed location, and 'kbuildsycoca4
--noincremental' does NOT load the new icon in Kickoff (shows
blank) until a complete recycle.  I dunno if plasma-desktop/kickoff
(whatever) is supposed to periodically poll or inotify() watch its
path elements for changes, but it's definitely not helping me out.

--stephen
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Re: [kde] kde stops seeing Xonar Exxence soundcard

2013-05-21 Thread Duncan
Jogchum Reitsma posted on Tue, 21 May 2013 16:49:56 +0200 as excerpted:

> I did take a look in the so-called KDE System settings on the tab you
> mention, but the Xonar isn't mentioned there too...

In that case, you may wish to switch backends, as I mentioned.  The 
phonon-xine backend is deprecated and shouldn't be used (if it's even 
still available on your distro).  I don't do gstreamer here and the 
phonon-vlc backend has worked well for me, but phonon-gstreamer is the 
default and recommended backend.  (I've never ever used pulse so have no 
idea how it interacts with all that.)

But upgrading to something a bit more current as someone else suggested 
and as you said you'd try might do it, too.  Hopefully... =:^)

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Re: [kde] kde stops seeing Xonar Exxence soundcard

2013-05-21 Thread Jogchum Reitsma

Op 21-05-13 23:06, Duncan schreef:

Jogchum Reitsma posted on Tue, 21 May 2013 16:49:56 +0200 as excerpted:


I did take a look in the so-called KDE System settings on the tab you
mention, but the Xonar isn't mentioned there too...

In that case, you may wish to switch backends, as I mentioned.  The
phonon-xine backend is deprecated and shouldn't be used (if it's even
still available on your distro).  I don't do gstreamer here and the
phonon-vlc backend has worked well for me, but phonon-gstreamer is the
default and recommended backend.  (I've never ever used pulse so have no
idea how it interacts with all that.)

But upgrading to something a bit more current as someone else suggested
and as you said you'd try might do it, too.  Hopefully... =:^)

Upgrading didn't change anything, I'm sorry to say. It's bed time here, 
tomorrow further.

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Re: [kde] kde stops seeing Xonar Exxence soundcard

2013-05-21 Thread tors...@tfrey.de

Am 22.05.2013 00:33, schrieb Jogchum Reitsma:

Op 21-05-13 23:06, Duncan schreef:

Jogchum Reitsma posted on Tue, 21 May 2013 16:49:56 +0200 as excerpted:


I did take a look in the so-called KDE System settings on the tab you
mention, but the Xonar isn't mentioned there too...

In that case, you may wish to switch backends, as I mentioned. The
phonon-xine backend is deprecated and shouldn't be used (if it's even
still available on your distro).  I don't do gstreamer here and the
phonon-vlc backend has worked well for me, but phonon-gstreamer is the
default and recommended backend.  (I've never ever used pulse so have no
idea how it interacts with all that.)

But upgrading to something a bit more current as someone else suggested
and as you said you'd try might do it, too.  Hopefully... =:^)

Upgrading didn't change anything, I'm sorry to say. It's bed time 
here, tomorrow further.



I am sorry for that - at least you have an up to date system (ouch).

Perhaps this might help you better
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Audio_troubleshooting

and here:
http://userbase.kde.org/Phonon
http://userbase.kde.org/Phonon#Missing_device_entries

I tried on my computer (not your soundcard):
- Delete in yast all soundcards. In KDE should automatically arise some 
kind of messages

like "devices are deleted should I remove..".I said yes - remove
- restart
- result: no sound at all

- let the yast autoconfigure your sound card (add / change)
- once again KDE should give some messages about devices; I said "no - 
not remove"

- restart
- everything worked like before.

A litlle bit of try and error ...




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