Re: [kde] keyboard and mouse not working after upadte to latest xorg server

2014-08-04 Thread pete nikolic
On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 05:52:15 +0200
sinclair  wrote:

> Did you try logging in as another user?
> 
> Sent from Samsung Mobile
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Peter Nikolic  
> Date: 04/08/2014  23:59  (GMT+02:00) 
> To: kde@mail.kde.org 
> Subject: Re: [kde] keyboard and mouse not working after upadte to latest
  xorg  server 
>  
> On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 07:48:29 + (UTC)
> Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
> 
> > Peter Nikolic posted on Sat, 02 Aug 2014 21:25:03 +0100 as excerpted:
> > 
> > > Thanks for the reply i think it may be as you suggest a permissions
> > > problem but it is proving to be hell to sort out   every thing was
> > > fine untill i accepted the update to the latest Xorg server  then
> > > well
> > 
> > FWIW, latest xorg-server 1.16.0 here, recently upgraded (as it'd have
> > to be, because it only recently came out).  No problems to report,
> > but as I said, I do the text login, startx with a kde xsession
> > setting, thing here, and don't even have a *dm installed, so if there
> > were issues with it and *dm, I'd never know it.
> > 
> > But it does seem to me that your issue is likely related to logind 
> > console session dynamic permissions.  Obviously those logging into a
> > text login session and running startx from there have a login session
> > already going when they run startx, with console perms already set
> > for the existing login.  That contrasts significantly with the *dm
> > login case, where X is already running and at least basic input perms
> > would be necessary in ordered to be even to login graphically at all,
> > which seems to be your problem.  I just don't know how to fix it
> > since the little *dm experience I have is over a decade outdated now,
> > well before systemd's logind solution and indeed, before hal and the
> > like as well, so literally, generations of solutions have come and
> > gone since then. =:^\
> > 
> > 
> > > Ok  well i am going to be out all day tomorrow fishing
> > 
> > =:^)
> > 
> > > so will try to solve it monday evening and get back to you then .
> > 
> > 
> 
> Hi Duncan 
> 
> 
> Right had time to fiddle for a while now  ..
> 
> I can get KDE up using "xinit startkde"   all fine but still no
> keyboard or mouse  , so this seems it may be a kde based problem  have
> to install and try another desktop to test this out .
> 
> 
> 
> 
> PS if anyone else has any suggestions please pipe up  i am now getting
> desperate to get this machine back up and running  have neither the
> space or software on here to do what i need ..
> 
> 
> Pete  
> 

Hi .


Well some success now back on the afflicted machine but having to log in and 
start
KDE  using  "startx" and it seems to be behaving .

It would seem to be either KDM  or a systemd KDM  problem   and to be honest i 
cant
get my head round systemd yet  , Main thing is the machine is useable again  
and i
can get on and reduce the amount of GVH  (grievous verbal hassle) i am getting 
from
the club about an out of date web site ..


thanksPete ..
 

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Re: [kde] keyboard and mouse not working after upadte to latest xorg server

2014-08-04 Thread sinclair
Did you try logging in as another user?

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 Original message 
From: Peter Nikolic  
Date: 04/08/2014  23:59  (GMT+02:00) 
To: kde@mail.kde.org 
Subject: Re: [kde] keyboard and mouse not working after upadte to latest
  xorg  server 
 
On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 07:48:29 + (UTC)
Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:

> Peter Nikolic posted on Sat, 02 Aug 2014 21:25:03 +0100 as excerpted:
> 
> > Thanks for the reply i think it may be as you suggest a permissions
> > problem but it is proving to be hell to sort out   every thing was
> > fine untill i accepted the update to the latest Xorg server  then
> > well
> 
> FWIW, latest xorg-server 1.16.0 here, recently upgraded (as it'd have
> to be, because it only recently came out).  No problems to report,
> but as I said, I do the text login, startx with a kde xsession
> setting, thing here, and don't even have a *dm installed, so if there
> were issues with it and *dm, I'd never know it.
> 
> But it does seem to me that your issue is likely related to logind 
> console session dynamic permissions.  Obviously those logging into a
> text login session and running startx from there have a login session
> already going when they run startx, with console perms already set
> for the existing login.  That contrasts significantly with the *dm
> login case, where X is already running and at least basic input perms
> would be necessary in ordered to be even to login graphically at all,
> which seems to be your problem.  I just don't know how to fix it
> since the little *dm experience I have is over a decade outdated now,
> well before systemd's logind solution and indeed, before hal and the
> like as well, so literally, generations of solutions have come and
> gone since then. =:^\
> 
> 
> > Ok  well i am going to be out all day tomorrow fishing
> 
> =:^)
> 
> > so will try to solve it monday evening and get back to you then .
> 
> 

Hi Duncan 


Right had time to fiddle for a while now  ..

I can get KDE up using "xinit startkde"   all fine but still no
keyboard or mouse  , so this seems it may be a kde based problem  have
to install and try another desktop to test this out .




PS if anyone else has any suggestions please pipe up  i am now getting
desperate to get this machine back up and running  have neither the
space or software on here to do what i need ..


Pete  

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Re: [kde] keyboard and mouse not working after upadte to latest xorg server

2014-08-04 Thread Peter Nikolic
On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 07:48:29 + (UTC)
Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:

> Peter Nikolic posted on Sat, 02 Aug 2014 21:25:03 +0100 as excerpted:
> 
> > Thanks for the reply i think it may be as you suggest a permissions
> > problem but it is proving to be hell to sort out   every thing was
> > fine untill i accepted the update to the latest Xorg server  then
> > well
> 
> FWIW, latest xorg-server 1.16.0 here, recently upgraded (as it'd have
> to be, because it only recently came out).  No problems to report,
> but as I said, I do the text login, startx with a kde xsession
> setting, thing here, and don't even have a *dm installed, so if there
> were issues with it and *dm, I'd never know it.
> 
> But it does seem to me that your issue is likely related to logind 
> console session dynamic permissions.  Obviously those logging into a
> text login session and running startx from there have a login session
> already going when they run startx, with console perms already set
> for the existing login.  That contrasts significantly with the *dm
> login case, where X is already running and at least basic input perms
> would be necessary in ordered to be even to login graphically at all,
> which seems to be your problem.  I just don't know how to fix it
> since the little *dm experience I have is over a decade outdated now,
> well before systemd's logind solution and indeed, before hal and the
> like as well, so literally, generations of solutions have come and
> gone since then. =:^\
> 
> 
> > Ok  well i am going to be out all day tomorrow fishing
> 
> =:^)
> 
> > so will try to solve it monday evening and get back to you then .
> 
> 

Hi Duncan 


Right had time to fiddle for a while now  ..

I can get KDE up using "xinit startkde"   all fine but still no
keyboard or mouse  , so this seems it may be a kde based problem  have
to install and try another desktop to test this out .




PS if anyone else has any suggestions please pipe up  i am now getting
desperate to get this machine back up and running  have neither the
space or software on here to do what i need ..


Pete  

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