Re: [kde] Can't resize, move or remove some widgets

2015-03-19 Thread Duncan
Marcelo Magno T. Sales posted on Thu, 19 Mar 2015 18:45:15 -0300 as
excerpted:

 I have several widgets on my desktop: nextwallpaper, yawp, stockquote
 (three instances of this one) and a network monitor. Suddenly, two of
 them, yawp and one of the stockquote instances, stopped showing that
 lateral setup tab which allows you to move, resize or remove the widget
 from the desktop. Widgets are unlocked and, except for these two, all of
 them show the tab when I hover the mouse over them, including the other
 two instances of stockquote.
 I would like to remove and re-add the problematic widgets to see if they
 go back to normal behavior, but can't find a way to remove them. Other
 than not displaying the setup tab, both widgets are working fine.
 Any idea on how to solve this?
 I'm running KDE 4.14.1 on Kubuntu 14.10.


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As to the question...

FWIW, I actually use a couple instances of yawp here, set to different 
locations, but don't use any of the other plasmoids you mentioned.  So 
I'll use it as the common ground.

While I've not seen this particularly curious behavior before, I do have 
some suggestions and know where to find these settings in the text-based 
config files as well, which should help as a last resort.  I've had to 
directly edit the config files myself for other issues, and now keep both 
a backup copy and the operational copy set read-only when I'm not making 
specific changes, so it can't be damaged.  I'd suggest doing likewise, as 
the file in question, while text, has a quite complex structure making it 
not the easiest thing in the world to directly edit.

You clarified that widgets (also called plasmoids) are unlocked and that 
other plasmoids, including other instances of one of the problematic 
ones, show the floating config tabs on hover.  Thanks.  I agree, it's 
very strange that some show the tabs but not others...

Unfortunately, other than toggling the locked state and restarting plasma-
desktop (presuming you have plasma set to desktop, otherwise plasma-
netbook, which I'm less familiar with) a few times in an effort to try to 
get the config tabs back, I don't have any further suggestions to try on 
that attack angle.

Which leaves three others I know of to try...

Simplest, if it works, and if it doesn't you should at least get a bit 
more information about what's going on, at least with yawp, which I know 
has this option.  (Not sure about the stock plasmoids.) ...

With plasmoids on the desktop (as opposed to on a panel, where they don't 
show the config tab either, so I'll assume yours are on the desktop, tho 
you didn't say), with plasma unlocked, many plasmoids (including yawp) 
have a context menu (traditionally displayed on right-click) with among 
other things, a remove this plasmoid (remove this yawp, for yawp) 
entry.  The icon beside the entry should be a red X, for removal.

If you can see that on the context menu for the plasmoids in question, 
hopefully that'll remove them.  Please restart plasma (or logout/in to 
restart it, or quit and restart X, or restart the computer) and verify 
whether your changes held.

If not, please compare with the context menu where the config tab DOES 
appear.  Is that entry showing up there?

Since this option only shows up when widgets are unlocked, if it's 
showing up on the one that shows the config tab but not the other one, 
then the problem must be that the problem plasmoids aren't getting the 
message that plasma is unlocked, for whatever reason.

If it's not showing up in either the plasmoids with the tab or the ones 
without, then you're experiencing some other sort of plasmoid bug.

In either case, while a clue to the base problem, if that entry isn't 
showing up, you can't remove the plasmoids that way, and will likely have 
to resort to one of the other two, both of which are more intensive.


Option two is to configure a replacement activity and delete the current 
activity containing the plasmoids you can't remove on their own.  With 
plasma unlocked, either context-click on the desktop (if you have 
activities configured to show up in the desktop context menu) or click on 
the desktop's toolbox icon and select activities.  Add a new one, and 

[kde] Can't resize, move or remove some widgets

2015-03-19 Thread Marcelo Magno T. Sales
Hello, people,
 
I have several widgets on my desktop: nextwallpaper, yawp, stockquote (three 
instances of this one) and a network monitor. Suddenly, two of them, yawp and 
one of the stockquote instances, stopped showing that lateral setup tab which 
allows you to move, resize or remove the widget from the desktop. Widgets are 
unlocked and, except for these two, all of them show the tab when I hover the 
mouse over them, including the other two instances of stockquote.
I would like to remove and re-add the problematic widgets to see if they go 
back to normal behavior, but can't find a way to remove them. Other than not 
displaying the setup tab, both widgets are working fine.
Any idea on how to solve this?
I'm running KDE 4.14.1 on Kubuntu 14.10.
 
Thank you,
 
Marcelo
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