[kde] convert to kde on Windows 7
I hope this message falls within the scope of the guidelines you published. I want to convert to the KDE version for Windows. However, I want to be absolutely sure I can get back, if it doesn't work out. (There is a program that was very difficult to install, and I don't want to ever have to do it again! As well as other paid programs.) In order to do that, I would like to copy the entire Windows partition to an external drive. On the Windows system, the drive contains Win 7 plus pclos in dual-boot configuration. Can I do (from the Linux partition) dd if=sda1 of=sdb and, if that is correct, would the external drive be bootable? If not correct, I hope that some kind soul reading this will correct me! Thanx! --doug -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] convert to kde on Windows 7
On 07/16/2012 04:27 PM, Hans Muecke wrote: Am 16.07.2012 15:20, schrieb Doug: I hope this message falls within the scope of the guidelines you published. I want to convert to the KDE version for Windows. However, I want to be absolutely sure I can get back, if it doesn't work out. (There is a program that was very difficult to install, and I don't want to ever have to do it again! As well as other paid programs.) In order to do that, I would like to copy the entire Windows partition to an external drive. On the Windows system, the drive contains Win 7 plus pclos in dual-boot configuration. Can I do (from the Linux partition) dd if=sda1 of=sdb and, if that is correct, would the external drive be bootable? If not correct, I hope that some kind soul reading this will correct me! Thanx! Dark the meaning of your posting is. What exactly are you wanna do? Use KDE unter 7? Yes. I understand that you can load KDE on Windows 7. I'm tired of looking for things under the Windows GUI that MS decided I'm too stupid to find. --doug -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] convert to kde on Windows 7
On 07/16/2012 07:06 PM, Duncan wrote: Doug posted on Mon, 16 Jul 2012 18:32:33 -0400 as excerpted: On 07/16/2012 04:27 PM, Hans Muecke wrote: Am 16.07.2012 15:20, schrieb Doug: I hope this message falls within the scope of the guidelines you published. I want to convert to the KDE version for Windows. However, I want to be absolutely sure I can get back, if it doesn't work out. (There is a program that was very difficult to install, and I don't want to ever have to do it again! As well as other paid programs.) In order to do that, I would like to copy the entire Windows partition to an external drive. On the Windows system, the drive contains Win 7 plus pclos in dual-boot configuration. Can I do (from the Linux partition) dd if=sda1 of=sdb and, if that is correct, would the external drive be bootable? If not correct, I hope that some kind soul reading this will correct me! Thanx! Dark the meaning of your posting is. What exactly are you wanna do? Use KDE unter 7? Yes. I understand that you can load KDE on Windows 7. I'm tired of looking for things under the Windows GUI that MS decided I'm too stupid to find. I haven't done MS for over a decade and I couldn't legally even if I wanted to, since I can't agree to the EULA so they give me no permission to run the software, so I don't know anything about KDE on MS from personal experience, but from what I've read... The full kde desktop environment is not available on MS, as it has its own desktop environment. What's available are certain individual apps, ported to run on MS platforms, but they continue to run under the normal MSWormOS GUI, not the kde desktop environment you'd find on *ix. Basically, as qt runs on MS, they're simply qt apps, with an extra library (dll on MS) or two providing the necessary base kde functionality. I don't know enough about it to know what particular apps are ported, but it doesn't appear that's what you're after anyway. You appear to be after the kde environment, on MS, and that's not available. OK, I guess I misunderstood what KDE on Windows was about. But-- If I could have Find Files/Folders and Konqueror (or Dolphin) file manager, I would be a lot happier than I am now, and if KPatience were to run, I'd be even happier yet! Recently I've run into several situations where Windows just drives me crazy. 1. It puts files in odd places, and their file finder can't always find them. 2. If the file finder can find them, it won't put you in the directory where they are so you can a) unzip them or b) attach one onto an email. It thinks you always want to "open" the file. Anybody know if that's on the list of stuff that runs? And where can I find such a list? --doug -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] convert to kde on Windows 7--more
On 07/16/2012 07:06 PM, Duncan wrote: Doug posted on Mon, 16 Jul 2012 18:32:33 -0400 as excerpted: On 07/16/2012 04:27 PM, Hans Muecke wrote: Am 16.07.2012 15:20, schrieb Doug: I hope this message falls within the scope of the guidelines you published. I want to convert to the KDE version for Windows. However, I want to be absolutely sure I can get back, if it doesn't work out. (There is a program that was very difficult to install, and I don't want to ever have to do it again! As well as other paid programs.) In order to do that, I would like to copy the entire Windows partition to an external drive. On the Windows system, the drive contains Win 7 plus pclos in dual-boot configuration. Can I do (from the Linux partition) dd if=sda1 of=sdb and, if that is correct, would the external drive be bootable? If not correct, I hope that some kind soul reading this will correct me! Thanx! Dark the meaning of your posting is. What exactly are you wanna do? Use KDE unter 7? Yes. I understand that you can load KDE on Windows 7. I'm tired of looking for things under the Windows GUI that MS decided I'm too stupid to find. I haven't done MS for over a decade and I couldn't legally even if I wanted to, since I can't agree to the EULA so they give me no permission to run the software, so I don't know anything about KDE on MS from personal experience, but from what I've read... The full kde desktop environment is not available on MS, as it has its own desktop environment. What's available are certain individual apps, ported to run on MS platforms, but they continue to run under the normal MSWormOS GUI, not the kde desktop environment you'd find on *ix. Basically, as qt runs on MS, they're simply qt apps, with an extra library (dll on MS) or two providing the necessary base kde functionality. I don't know enough about it to know what particular apps are ported, but it doesn't appear that's what you're after anyway. You appear to be after the kde environment, on MS, and that's not available. I have just looked at the Windows.kde.org website, and looked thru a whole set of screen shots. It looks to me like you DO wind up with a KDE desktop and most of the KDE aps that I have in Linux. Of course, maybe not all of them work, I don't know. Specifically, it does look as if Dolphin is there, and card games, but I couldn't verify the Find Files/Find Folders app. So back to the first question: can I back up the entire Windows partition using the method I suggested, or must I do something else? I do intend to try KDE on Windows, but I'd like to have a belt and suspenders, please! --doug -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] convert to kde on Windows 7
On 07/18/2012 07:13 PM, dE . wrote: On 07/17/12 01:50, Doug wrote: I hope this message falls within the scope of the guidelines you published. I want to convert to the KDE version for Windows. However, I want to be absolutely sure I can get back, if it doesn't work out. That cant be done under Windows. The only option you have is 'reformat'. Since my original message, and some of the correspondence on this list, I have also done some more research. So: Not only can be done, but to some extent, DONE. First, I dd'd the entire Windows partition, so it could be restored if needed. (It was extremely slow; I forgot I have a USB3 adapter on the computer!) Then I installed KDE for Windows. You don't get the desktop--at least not from KDE TechBase--but you get a bunch of KDE apps that WORK! I have Dolphin and Find Files/Directories (kfind) and card games, and Snapshot, and Kate, and I could have installed some other things that would have duplicated what's already on Windows, so I didn't. I believe (but I'm not certain) that it is possible to get the KDE desktop, but I didn't pursue that. That's the sort of thing that if it didn't work, I'd really have to restore the whole system, probably, and at any rate, the Win 7 desktop is not that much different from KDE's. Sure, you don't have individually resizable widgets, and the START menu is not as nice as KDE's Menu, but it's all usable, and not only that, it's completely safe. So for those who would like to try it, here's my 2¢. Oh, I can see the replies now: why not just use Linux? Well, when I can get AutoCAD (for a reasonable price or free) and WordPerfect, and a few other goodies on Linux, then I'll consider it. They don't run on WINE. In the meantime, I use both. --doug ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] Dashboard Wallpaper
On 08/01/2012 05:24 AM, hendrik wrote: Hi there, my dashboard all of a sudden has a background image. I haven't found any setting mentioning this. How can I make it have a transparent background again? thank you Hendrik What's a dashboard? I'm running KDE and I have a desktop and a "panel" or systray. AFAIK, I don't have a dashboard--and probably don't want one! --doug ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
[kde] Release 4.8.3
I have upgraded my "sandbox" from 4.6.5 on PCLOS to 4.8.3, and with the exception of a more cluttered systray or "panel" and a somewhat uglier desktop, both of which I was fortunate to have been able to revert, I see no obvious advantage. (I don't consider the changes I noted to be an advantage.) Please explain why I should upgrade my two "work" computers to 4.8.3. Thanx--doug -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
[kde] kde-for-Windows: snapshot doesn't work
Title says it: after marking a rectangular area, it is apparently not possible to hit ENTER and proceed with copying the picture. If there is some sort of fix or work-around, I'd like to know. I have the program installed on Win 7 Pro with all the latest updates from Microsoft. Not only is it not possible to save the view, it is not possible to get out of the program at all; I had to restart the system. Thanx for any advice or assistance. --doug -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] Something about Chrome and KDE Wallet Service
On 12/13/2012 04:34 AM, Kevin Krammer wrote: On Thursday, 2012-12-13, Duncan wrote: First, a quick request. Please refrain from posting HTML to the kde lists, as last I checked was suggested in the kde mailing list guidelines. Not everyone wants the security and other risks associated with using a standard HTML parser on messages which could be sent by anyone and used, among other things, for "web bug" spyware and other malware. Plain text is good. =:^) This could be a problem of your setup. The mail of Burgess Wong contains both a plain text version and a HTML version (multipart/mixed). This allows the recipient's mail reader to display whatever its user prefers, in my case the plain text version. Seems your mail reader thinks you prefer the HTML version. Second, I believe you'll find a thread on this very topic from the end of November, over on the kde-linux list (as opposed to the kde-general list, this one), rather useful. The two issues sound similar but not identical. The user on kde-linux had the issue that each new tab caused a KWallet authentication request, while here it seems to be limited to Chrome startup. Obviously KWallet as the service can't do anything about Chrome asking for access, however, it usually can control whether it needs to ask the user. I had a look at KWalletmanager and it has the option to not ask at all. Alternatively it can have different access rules for different applications. Maybe the rule for Chrome is currently set to "always ask" and could be deleted and at next access replaced with "always grant". Cheers, Kevin Using PCLOS, KDE 4.9.2. I too see the nonsense about KWallet when I try to use chrome, so I won't bother with Chrome unless I can get rid of it. However, when I try to go to kwalletmanager, I don't get any configuration setup, all I get is this: $ kwalletmanager QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. I have no idea at all what this means! anyone care to assist? --doug ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] Something about Chrome and KDE Wallet Service
On 12/14/2012 12:45 AM, Duncan wrote: Doug posted on Thu, 13 Dec 2012 12:06:01 -0500 as excerpted: Using PCLOS, KDE 4.9.2. I too see the nonsense about KWallet when I try to use chrome, so I won't bother with Chrome unless I can get rid of it. However, when I try to go to kwalletmanager, I don't get any configuration setup, all I get is this: $ kwalletmanager QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. I have no idea at all what this means! anyone care to assist? Those warnings are pretty much normal... As covered in the other thread I mentioned, kwalletmanager is a tray application. It doesn't necessarily open a window, until you click that. However, the plasma systray app hides many tray icons by default, so you may not even see it there, unless you configure the tray not to hide that icon. As a result of both of these put together, people often think it hasn't started at all or that it crashed, when it's still running, just hidden in the tray. So after you've started it manually, look for it in the systray list and set it to always shown there (it should be listed unless it DID crash), THEN you should see it in the tray, at which point you can click it to get the wallet management window. Alternatively, at least in the 4.10-beta2 (aka 4.9.90) that I'm running, there's a kde wallet entry in kde settings, common appearance and behavior, account details. That yields the same kwallet configuration dialog that can be reached from the systray icon, then window, altho it doesn't display the available wallets, like the wallet manager window does. Thanx. I found the KDE settings--account details, and turned off the wallet and now Chrome comes up without any BS. (I suppose if I knew how to use the wallet for some other program, it would still bug me in Chrome.) --doug --doug ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
[kde] scanned image size
Hope this is the right forum for the question: I scan an image in using xsane. It displays magnified many many times. I save that image as a .png file, and then when I open it, or email it someone who opens it, either in Linux or in Windows, the image comes out very small on the screen-- smaller than what the original was. (I'm scanning using the scan function of an Epson WP-4530 multi-function printer, networked via Ethernet.) So: is there any way to make the scanned image on screen in xsane look a reasonable facsimile, size-wise, of the original document or picture, and is there a way to make that image come out about that same size when saved as .png and viewed by an image viewer like Gwenview, or Windows Photo Viewer? Thanx--doug ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] Yet another failed KDE release?
On 05/07/2013 11:32 AM, dE wrote: /snip/ There is no misconception. KDE is always giving problems. Look at the bugzilla crawling with stale bugs. /snip/ I've been using KDE for at least 3 years, and I find very little in it to complain about. Only thing I can think of is the unfortunate interaction of some programs (guvcview, most recently) with the operation of KSnapshot. Prior to that it was some other program, and prior to _that_, KSnapshot worked OK, so I don't know what or why they're doing things that louse it up. Oh, one other thing: some of the options set up in "Configure Your Desktop" do not survive reboot. I wish they'd fix that. The attitude that KDE is always giving problems could result in it being dropped by some distros in favor of some Ubuntuism, at which point I would just go back to Windows. I really dislike the way Windows operates, but i do like the Win (prior to Win8) screen paradigm, which KDE imitates rather well. --doug ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] Yet another failed KDE release?
On 05/07/2013 11:49 AM, Kevin Krammer wrote: On Tuesday, 2013-05-07, dE wrote: There is no misconception. Yes, there is. Sometimes people don't know that KDE is the name of the software vendor, not of a product and that this vendor has in fact dozens of products. S /snip/ I thought KDE was short for "K Desktop Environment," a replacement for a Unix CDE--Common Desktop Environment? If KDE is a software vendor, what else do they make? --doug ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] Virtually Invisible Panel Clock
On 05/30/2013 08:26 PM, Felix Miata wrote: Regardless of distro, every new install I can recall in the last year or more the panel clock is all but useless. Why doesn't any theme used by default or containing string "upstream" in Fedora, openSUSE or Mageia have a legible clock (same as the adjacent icons, like Klipper and the panel settings button)? I don't know about the other distros, but in PCLinuxOS, there is a nice digital clock at the right end of the "panel" or task-bar. Which is on the bottom, where I, at least, believe it ought to be. Right now it clearly says "08:56 PM" and under it, in smaller characters, "05/30/13." That's the KDE desktop, BTW. I'm not sure, but I think it can be made to read 24 hour time, if you like. --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers..for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M.Greeley ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] Virtually Invisible Panel Clock
On 05/30/2013 09:22 PM, Felix Miata wrote: On 2013-05-30 21:01 (GMT-0400) Doug composed: Felix Miata wrote: Regardless of distro, every new install I can recall in the last year or more the panel clock is all but useless. Why doesn't any theme used by default or containing string "upstream" in Fedora, openSUSE or Mageia have a legible clock (same as the adjacent icons, like Klipper and the panel settings button)? I don't know about the other distros, but in PCLinuxOS, there is a nice digital clock at the right end of the "panel" or task-bar. $SUBJECT was meant literally: http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/kdemageialowfipanelclock1200-120.png Not nice, and looks the same in 4.10.3 in Fedora and openSUSE. I don't know how to copy images to email, but my taskbar in PCLOS is black, and the numbers are white. Very easy to read. Maybe there's a way in your distro to change the taskbar color? --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers..for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M.Greeley ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] Is it normal that text in the clipboard gets lost?
On 06/05/2013 01:03 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: There's something that always bugged me a bit with the clipboard. I don't know whether it's a bug or intended behavior. It goes like this: when I open an application, select some text in it, then copy it to the clipboard with Ctrl+C, then close the application and finally try to paste the text from the clipboard into somewhere else, there's nothing to copy. At the moment I closed the application I copied the text from, the clipboard contents die. This is surprising, since "copying to the clipboard", at least on every other OS I'm using, really means "copying". Even if the application the text came from goes away, the copied text is still in the clipboard. Is this a bug? I just tested this. I copied some of your email with ctrl-C. Then I closed Thunderbird. Then I opened Kate and pasted the text in. No sweat. I'm running KDE 4.10.1 on PCLinuxOS-32. Kernel is 3.2.18-pclos2.pae.bfs. --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers..for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M.Greeley ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] Is it normal that text in the clipboard gets lost?
On 06/05/2013 04:39 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 05/06/13 23:33, Doug wrote: On 06/05/2013 01:03 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: There's something that always bugged me a bit with the clipboard. I don't know whether it's a bug or intended behavior. It goes like this: when I open an application, select some text in it, then copy it to the clipboard with Ctrl+C, then close the application and finally try to paste the text from the clipboard into somewhere else, there's nothing to copy. At the moment I closed the application I copied the text from, the clipboard contents die. This is surprising, since "copying to the clipboard", at least on every other OS I'm using, really means "copying". Even if the application the text came from goes away, the copied text is still in the clipboard. Is this a bug? I just tested this. I copied some of your email with ctrl-C. Then I closed Thunderbird. Then I opened Kate and pasted the text in. No sweat. I'm running KDE 4.10.1 on PCLinuxOS-32. Kernel is 3.2.18-pclos2.pae.bfs. As pointed out by Kevin, it's because I didn't start klipper. Without it running, text goes away when quitting the app the text was copied from. ___ I'm the fellow who responded above "I just tested..." Klipper doen't appear in my file manager (Synaptic) but I have a help page for it. I don't know if it's built into the kernel in pclos, but it does not show up anywhere. Certainly not in the PC Menu. The help page reads: [doug@linux1 ~]$ klipper --help Usage: klipper [Qt-options] [KDE-options] KDE cut & paste history utility Generic options: --helpShow help about options --help-qt Show Qt specific options --help-kdeShow KDE specific options --help-allShow all options --author Show author information -v, --version Show version information --license Show license information --End of options I don't know if this is any help to you. Whatever distro you're running, maybe you should query the forum or mailing list for that distro. --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers..for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M.Greeley ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] Is it normal that text in the clipboard gets lost?
On 06/05/2013 06:13 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:>>> ___ /snip/ I'm the fellow who responded above "I just tested..." Klipper doen't appear in my file manager (Synaptic) but I have a help page for it. I don't know if it's built into the kernel in pclos, but it does not show up anywhere. Certainly not in the PC Menu. If you do: ps aux | grep klipper you'll probably find it's running already. You'll get something that ends in: kdeinit4: klipper [kdeinit] meaning it's running automatically when you login into KDE. Yep, you're right! It must be buried in here somewhere. [doug@linux1 ~]$ ps aux | grep klipper doug 3450 0.0 0.5 164604 43328 ?S03:13 0:00 kdeinit4: klipper [kdeinit] doug 27074 0.0 0.0 6080 796 pts/1S+ 18:23 0:00 grep --color klipper I have not seen anything in cut/paste in color, however. --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers..for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M.Greeley ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
[kde] multiboot grub question
All my Linux systems run KDE, and I have some KDE stuff on Windows 7, so I figured this would be a good place to ask the question. I have Win 7, PCLOS, and Korora on a machine here. PCLOS normally boots off of original grub, but Korora boots off of grub2. I installed Korora last, and now grub2 is the boot device. The boot order shown at power up has Korora first. I like the PCLOS boot screen. Can I just boot into PCLOS and run redoMBR and have everything boot off of original grub? I know how to modify menu.lst to change boot order. If not, what must I do to at least change the boot order in the Korora grub2 setup? (I'd like to have it show Windows first, then PDLOS, then Korora.) Thanx--doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers..for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M.Greeley ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] multiboot grub question
On 08/20/2013 12:33 PM, Doug wrote: > All my Linux systems run KDE, and I have some KDE stuff on Windows 7, so > I figured this would be a good place to ask the question. > > I have Win 7, PCLOS, and Korora on a machine here. PCLOS normally boots > off of original grub, but Korora boots off of grub2. I installed Korora > last, and now grub2 is the boot device. The boot order shown at power up > has Korora first. > > I like the PCLOS boot screen. Can I just boot into PCLOS and run > redoMBR and have everything boot off of original grub? I know how to > modify menu.lst to change boot order. > > If not, what must I do to at least change the boot order in > the Korora grub2 setup? (I'd like to have it show Windows first, then > PDLOS, then Korora.) > > Thanx--doug > Replying to myself: Found instructions on PCLOS forum. It appears that if the grub2 partition is not too far into the HD, the normal PCLOS "redo MBR" will automatically put in a simple stanza that looks like any other legacy boot stanza in menu.lst, and the grub2 OS will boot, just like any other. Apparently there is a problem if the partition is too far into the HD, but I didn't run into that. I entered "grub2" into the search box in the PCLOS forum, and it found a thread. The answer for me came in about the first reply, from Old Polack, so I tried it and it worked. --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers..for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M.Greeley ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] Bizarre window snap at screen borders
On 10/24/2013 10:07 PM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 05:37:41PM +, Duncan wrote: >> Frank Steinmetzger posted on Thu, 24 Oct 2013 13:34:58 +0200 as excerpted: >> >>> See how tastes differ. *I* found this a bad idea and it was among the >>> things I always disable right after installation, because I wanted the >>> window's [X] to be in the corner where it belongs so I can quickly reach >>> it by mouse. It's the same reason for which I can't understand why >>> people use top panels. But that's the user world -- to each his own, and >>> the dev's can't accommodate everyone. The fact that they don't include >>> (or, as you say, even remove) the option is sadly another story. >> >> Just noting the multi-monitor case, with monitors logically stacked and >> kwin set to maximize to a single monitor. That's actually the case here, >> with the further condition that altho three monitors are logically >> stacked, only the bottom two are actually physically stacked due to space >> constraints (they're actually 42-inch TVs that stack to cover an entire >> wall, with the third logically stacked on top to preserve the logical >> rectangular desktop, but physically off to the side where I have room for >> it). >> >> In that case, a top panel covering essentially all of the top monitor, >> my "system status dashboard", graphing user/system/nice/wait CPU usage >> separately for six cores, app/buffer/cache memory, various system temps, >> voltage and power usage, and fan speeds, network usage, and listing top >> applications by memory and cpu usage, etc, along with last 20 or so syslog >> entries, all in a custom superkaramba theme, makes sense, particularly >> since that monitor is physically separated from the others even if it's >> logically stacked on top of them. > > you godda admit, that’s an “exotic” setup. Anyways, I was more referring > to the “typical“ single-monitor, single-desktop use case. Not having > seriously worked with a multimonitor setup yet, I excluded that from my > thought process. :o) Think for example *cough* Apple laptops or, heck, > Gnome (not just 3 but also the default config in 2 and also in xfce4). > >> ... [...] Instead, I don't care much about the defaults; I just want >> to have the configurability to sanely setup a configuration I'm >> comfortable with. >> >> And kde is renowned for that sort of flexible configurability, a big part >> of why I use it, for much the same "big part of" reason that I use both >> Gentoo and Linux in general -- the configurability. Too bad in this case >> kde had it, but removed it! =:^( > > Indeed. > > > PS.: If you use KWin's align window function (which I set to Meta + > left/right, inspired by Windows) to put a window either on one half or > quarter of a screen, then the borders are not chopped. > I don't remember what version of kde that started this problem. Please remind me so I can (hopefully) prevent it from being upgraded. --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers..for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M.Greeley ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] Why do you prefer KDE?
On 12/21/2013 09:45 PM, Bruce Byfield wrote: As you may have heard, KDE recently topped the Linux Journal's Readers' Choice Awards. That got me thinking. Why do people prefer KDE? What advantages do you think it has over other desktop environments? Warning: If I get enough replies, I may use them in a blog entry for Linux Pro Magazine. My thanks in advance for any replies. I'm using KDE on PCLinuxOS. I'm not sure what "comes" with it, and what is added on, but one thing that definitely comes with it is Konqueror-Super User, which is really helpful in copying files between operating systems, particularly between Linux and Windows. K3b is surely a KDE app, and it works very nicely, even allowing you to check the mdsum of the text you are going to burn, and then verifying the result. (On the other hand, I would never again trust KMail. I used it on SuSE back around 2009/10, when it started printing incoming messages in some Asian font, and they could not be recovered!) KSnapshot has a nice array of output possibilities, and I use it when the devs have not broken it--which has happened more than once. KPatience Solitare, especially Klondike, is a really nice rendition of the game. I assume the Kate editor is a KDE creation, and it has features I haven't seen elsewhere. The capability of joining lines is wonderful for removing strange formatting. The Find Files/Folders app is indispensable, not only on Linux, but on the Windows version of KDE. Windows has nothing like it--Windows assumes when you find a file, you want to run it, never thinking that you might want to burn a copy, or email it. Finally, KDE has a great deal of visual similarity to Windows, on which virtually all of us learned graphical user interfacing. It has one "panel" or systray, and it's at the bottom, out of the way, where it belongs. It allows the placement of icons or widgets on the desktop. For those who like the Windows "Start" menu type of operation, KDE has a similar menu. At the same time, the KDE desktop is more versatile, allowing various icons to be placed in the "panel", left or right, at the user's preference, as well as on the desktop surface itself, and has a lot more options for these user spaces. If your desktop uses widgets, rather than icons, they can be modified in size, one at a time, so as to be more pleasing to the eye as well as more easily found. (Note that I make Windows comparisons to versions prior to Windows 8, an unmitigated disaster!) In addition to the items above, the system administration apps provided by KDE all work pretty well, with only a few exceptions. (The printer apps really need serious work, and have been in this state for the entire time I've used KDE. Also the display configuration when an NVidia card is used does not work right, without (undocumented) user modifications to Xorg.conf.) It is to KDE's credit that certain "eyecandy" type things can be turned off. Especially those that make windows do strange things when they hit up against a screen edge. And I can do without them ever becoming translucent! I don't know if Synaptic is a creation of the KDE people or not, but I think it is a more user-friendly file loader than the other programs used on distros other than PCLOS. I think I hear faint rumors that the PCLOS people are thinking of leaving KDE for some other system. When or if they do, I will be looking for another distro that continues to use KDE. If you print any of this review in a magazine or elsewhere, you have my permission to use my name. Doug McGarrett ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] Why do you prefer KDE?
On 12/27/2013 08:15 AM, Jay DeKing wrote: On 12/27/2013 07:00 AM, kde-requ...@mail.kde.org wrote: Send kde mailing list submissions to kde@mail.kde.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kde-requ...@mail.kde.org You can reach the person managing the list at kde-ow...@mail.kde.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kde digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Why do you prefer KDE? (Pavel Volkov) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 22:06:48 +0400 From: Pavel Volkov To: kde@mail.kde.org Subject: Re: [kde] Why do you prefer KDE? Message-ID: <3242348.s2aFlBQAH4@melforce> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Saturday 21 December 2013 23:10:30 Doug wrote: (On the other hand, I would never again trust KMail. I used it on SuSE back around 2009/10, when it started printing incoming messages in some Asian font, and they could not be recovered!) I'd suggest to give KMail another try nevertheless, it certainly has some issues but it's quite usable and had major rewrites since 2009. Some great features are not found in other software: Sieve server-side filters support (and an editor for it), selecting different display styles for different folders (e. g. mailing list folders display as threaded and other folders in your favourite style) /snip/ Many thanks to the KDE community, and keep the goodness coming, Jay DeKing Château Cruso, NC, USA I'm very happy with Thunderbird for my mail. I do not need or want anything that it doesn't do. --doug ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] KDE panels
On 02/24/2014 02:21 PM, Carlos Luna wrote: How can I made that the KDE panel when it is hide, do not jump almost inmediately the cursor go over the side of the screen (over the panel is hide). May I adjust the sensibility of the panel? ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html. I'm not sure I understand the question, but at one time, using an Nvidia card, the system thought there were two monitors, side-by-side, and the cursor would run off the screen to the right, as if it were going to the other (nonexistant) monitor. Later version of PCLOS don't seem to have this problem. Anyway, somewhere in X11 is a configuration file that can be modified to fix the problem, but not by me! (I had help from the PCLOS forum.) Good luck--doug ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] What is baloo_file_extractor and why is it humping my hard drive?
On 04/18/2014 03:09 AM, O.Sinclair wrote: On Friday 18 April 2014 2:55:17 AM Duncan wrote: > Thomas Tanghus posted on Fri, 18 Apr 2014 02:24:05 +0200 as excerpted: > > On Thursday 17 April 2014 21:07 Luiz Felipe Talvik wrote: > >> It is KDE's new file indexer. > >> In yours installation you seem to have the old settings interface and > >> the new file indexer. I've upgraded to 4.13 in Kubuntu and the Nepomuk > >> search settings was replaced. > >> > >> You can disable baloo editing: "~/.kde/share/config/baloofilerc" > >> Change "Indexing-Enabled=false" to "Indexing-Enabled=true" > > > > That sound a bit counter-intuitive? Isn't it the other way around? To get back to basics: I do not believe I have either baloo or nepomuk, and I'm not sure what they actually do. I have Recoll installed, and I use it very little, but I do occasionally have reason to. (When I have such reason, I update it, and then walk away while it does that.) Someone please comment. (Using PCLOS, latest updates, KDE.) -doug ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] Ark completely useless in common user scenarios
On 08/29/2014 07:57 AM, ianseeks wrote: On Friday 29 Aug 2014 02:42:02 Matteo Italia wrote: Hello, it's probably about 2 years since I switched to KDE, and it's mostly been a pleasant journey; but since day zero, I've always had problems with Ark, which, in my opinion, has several known bugs which really cripple with the most common usage scenarios. i've never had any problems with Ark myself but then again i don;t use it much. Have you logged any errors in the bug tracking system ? You'll also need to provide some version numbers of Ark/KDE etc you are using for someone to make any useful replies. Suppose that a new KDE user - coming from WinRar, 7zip, PeaZip, XArchiver, FileRoller, whatever - wants to open some document inside a zip; he double clicks on the .zip and ark shows up. Nothing particularly strange here (althought the UI could be somewhat less minimal). Look up the commands to unzip unrar untar, etc. and do all this from a command line. It's very straight-forward and unambiguous. Don't depend on Windows habits! --doug ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
