[kde] taskbar "tooltips"

2016-08-08 Thread Felix Miata
I suppose that's what they're called. Hovering over the toolbar where an open 
app is represented, a popup occurs with the app name, and a miniaturization 
of the window itself. Is this configurable to get rid of the miniaturization 
and only show text? I looked through settings and Googled and found nothing 
helpful. The large size caused by the window's image is a seriously annoying 
window blocker when the mouse is left where a click occurred to focus that 
app's window.

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Re: [kde] does a gtk kcmshell5 module exist?

2016-07-27 Thread Felix Miata

Duncan composed on 2016-07-28 05:32 (UTC):


Felix Miata posted on Wed, 27 Jul 2016 23:59:17 -0400 as excerpted:



If not, why not? I don't see one in kcmshell5 --list output. :-(



AFAIK, no, doesn't exist.



The colors module has an option to apply the color scheme to non-kde
apps, and that will write appropriate gtkrc files to set gtk app colors,
but AFAIK, little else gtk-related can be set using kde system settings.



Which is frustrating, as it'd be useful to be able to set various other
gtk elements like widget style, fonts, etc, without having to having to
figure out which gtk-based package to install, along with possible deps,
to do it, something I've never taken time to research.


I asked because I had hoped to include such in a screenshot, with a more 
efficient use of space than a systemsettings window.


https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2016-July/msg00028.html is the 
actual screenshot in the context for which created, a show of gtk3 regression 
high DPI KDE users of Mozilla products are likely to be seeing soon, if they 
aren't already.

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[kde] does a gtk kcmshell5 module exist?

2016-07-27 Thread Felix Miata

If not, why not? I don't see one in kcmshell5 --list output. :-(
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Re: [kde] Need help

2016-07-10 Thread Felix Miata

Dileep Sankhla composed on 2016-07-11 10:30 (UTC+0530):


I'm new to KDE and Qt. I'm also comfortable with C++. What should I learn
in Qt framework first to get started with KDE contribution? How can a
beginner like me contribute to KDE?



P.S. I know this question requires a subjective answer but I really don't
know how to start. I just installed Kubuntu plasma desktop.


Like for most things on the Internet, Google is your friend. Here are a few 
it found for me:

http://kubuntu.org/contribute-to-kubuntu/
https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved
http://wiki.qt.io/Qt-Contribution-Guidelines

Given that you've "just installed" Kubuntu, we might be able to be more 
instructive by knowing a little more of your motivations and background, such 
as whether you are also new to Linux, and if not, what besides C++ you are 
comfortable with, and what attracted you to KDE and Kubuntu.


Also:
1-subscribe to http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel to see what's 
going on. Might spot something you'd like to help with there too.
2-register on https://bugs.kde.org/ if you haven't already, then take a look 
through a query of open bugs. Maybe you'll spot something for which you could 
provide a patch to fix.

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Re: [kde] Mapping physical screens to KDE containments

2016-04-18 Thread Felix Miata

Duncan composed on 2016-04-19 09:29 (UTC):


Possible side effect:  kmix's popup that normally appears in the middle
of the monitor I'm on when I hit the volume-up/down button on my
keyboard, still pops up, but is /tiny/, perhaps 16x16px, instead of the
normal I'd guess 256x256.


Do you have KDE forcing a DPI in systemsettings? What are your physical 
display densities, and your logical display density? Maybe an xrandr force of 
DPI (xrandr [-dpi ###,-fbmm ###X###]) at X startup would impact this favorably?

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Re: [kde] Mapping physical screens to KDE containments

2016-04-14 Thread Felix Miata

Duncan composed on 2016-04-15 03:58 (UTC):


Nick Coghlan posted on Fri, 15 Apr 2016 11:59:16 +1000 as excerpted:



P.S. I know the underlying multiple monitor support in X11 is pretty
terrible, so it wouldn't shock me to learn that this won't be 100%
reliable until after Wayland is usable as the default display server :)

...

It's only plasma and krunner that continue to get things so spectacularly
wrong.



Why I don't know, but it can't be blamed on xorg when only plasma and
krunner have the problem, everything else works as expected.


Never having configured either a triple display setup, or multi with LVDS, I 
can only speculate that blocking kscreen control of display configuration 
could work as well as it does here with only two and no hotplugging. Put the 
following in ~/.config/kded5rc:


[Module-kscreen]
autoload=false

Configuration entirely via xorg.conf, or alternatively, via xrandr in a 
startup script, is prerequisite to this working as desired.

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Re: [kde] Mapping physical screens to KDE containments

2016-04-10 Thread Felix Miata

Nick Coghlan composed on 2016-04-11 12:42 (UTC+1000):


Using a multi-monitor setup under Plasma 5 (Fedora 23), I have a
problem where the configured panel applet will disappear and not come
back if an external monitor is reconfigured to clone the laptop
monitor, and then switched back to being an independent screen.


Looks like you must have found the explanation why I have a whole bunch of 
F23 and F24 installations in which I never see a panel any more. I'm never 
using a laptop, but I do have several multi-output gfxcards to which I only 
sometimes connect more than one display. When I do, it's always in an 
extended desktop mode configured manually either using xrandr or xorg.conf* 
via /etc/X11*.

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Re: [kde] kde Archives

2015-11-17 Thread Felix Miata
Istvan Gabor composed on 2015-11-17 16:40 (UTC+0100):

> How can I read previous posts sent to this list?

> Currently the archive page after logging in says:
> The Kde Archives
> No messages have been posted to this list yet, so the archives are currently 
> empty. You can get more information about this list. 

This isn't the only kde mailing list with that erroneous footer. Maybe it
needs a bug filed.

> Where can I find the arhcives?

http://marc.info/?l=kde&r=1&b=201511&w=2
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Re: [kde] Plasma 5 as a daily driver?

2015-11-09 Thread Felix Miata
Ian Pilcher composed on 2015-11-09 13:40 (UTC-0600):

> With Fedora 21 about to reach its end of life, I'm trying to set up
> Plasma 5 on Fedora 23, and it's proving to be ... challenging.

> Here are the significant issues I've encountered in my first day or so
> of working on this.  Workarounds for any of these would be appreciated.

> * No desktop on 2nd display - This occurs the first time that I log in
>after every reboot.  My second display is black; no wallpaper is
>displayed, and mouse clicks have no effect, although it is possible
>to move windows to the 2nd display.  Logging out and logging back in
>makes the desktop display properly on the 2nd display.

> * Unable to set fixed konsole size - This one is known
>(https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343321), but it's been more
>than 9 months since this was reported, and the lack of activity in
>git and Bugzilla makes me think this bug is going to be with us for a
>long time.

> * System Tray (or other panel widget) overlaps panel "cashew" - Having
>a System Tray widget anywhere in my panel causes the right-most widget
>to overlap the panel "cashew" (which isn't a cashew anymore, but I
>don't know what else to call it).

> * Lack of (functional) CapsLock/NumLock widget - This shouldn't be an
>issue, because decent hardware should have these LEDs built in.  Since
>laptop manufacturers are intent on crapifying the world, however, this
>is pretty much a requirement these days.  The only widget I've found,
>Key State, doesn't calculate its width properly; the result is yet
>more overlap.

> * Turning on the date display in the Digital Clock causes ... more
>overlap.

> These panel overlap bugs are pretty bad.  It's really hard to get the
> panel set up in a usable fashion.

> All in all, I find myself wondering if other people are really using
> Plasma 5 as a "daily driver" (or is my usage really so different that
> others aren't hitting these bugs).

No way I could use Plasma5 in its current state as primary DE.

Indeed there are other options (the latter following can coexist with Plasma5):

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/kde/2015-October/016248.html

https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/FedoraInstall
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Re: [kde] interesting comment from a poster on phoronix

2015-08-20 Thread Felix Miata
Hussam Al-Tayeb composed on 2015-08-20 21:27 (UTC+0300):

> On Thu, 2015-08-20 at 13:10 -0500, J. Leslie Turriff wrote:

>> John Layt wrote:

>>> J. Leslie Turriff wrote:

>>>> Another of the many good reasons to stay on KDE3.

>>> Now that is just trolling :-)

>>  True.  I'm still really unhappy about the KDE4 upgrade fiasco
>> and the lost 
>> functionality that still plagues KDE beyond KDE3.

> what functionality did KDE4 miss?

At what point in time? It took years to get only most of it back, only to
have KDE4 go into feature freeze/out of support with only a very buggy v5 to
take its place.

> Things improved heavily throughout KDE4 lifecycle

But it took a long time to get v4 nearly to the same quality of v3, well
beyond .3 and .4, beyond .8, and beyond. Meanwhile, many of those dependent
on what was missing. and who were able to, needed to stick with or revert to
v3 or switch to TDE.

> I found KDE4 by 4.14.xx (with the patched akonadi) to be as perfect as
> a desktop can be (It ranked up there with XPSP3).

Some v3 feature loss and original v4 bugs yet remain open, or got wontfixed:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158556
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166565
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=234943
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=262695
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=283366
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=297217
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=297219
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321781

While others make migration to v5 painful to varying degrees individually,
more seriously collectively:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=317929
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340982
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=341143
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343246
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346059
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346122
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350853

This 24/7 system is running KDE3. Only my far less used installations run v4,
and v5 here gets similarly little.
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Re: [kde] grouping tasks in taskbar

2015-05-13 Thread Felix Miata
Gunther Clasen composed on 2015-05-12 15:46 (UTC+0100):

>> I'm using kde 4.3.4 btw.

As you used KDE for 15+ years[1], you apparently were satisfied with KDE3.
TDE[2] is an updated fork of KDE3. TDE is available for CentOS 6 (among
others)[3]. KDE 4.3 wouldn't have to be disturbed to at least give TDE a try.

[1] https://marc.info/?l=kde&m=143142829815806&w=2
[2] https://www.trinitydesktop.org/
[3] http://ftp.fau.de/trinity/trinity/rpm/
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Re: [kde] grouping tasks in taskbar

2015-05-12 Thread Felix Miata
Gunther Clasen composed on 2015-05-12 15:46 (UTC+0100):

> Yes, right-clicking on some _empty_ space on what seems to be called panel
> nowadays gives me the "Task Manager Settings", which has grouping
> options.

> Well, Kevin, if these app entries in the taskbar have grouping options,
> then I cannot see them. Rather than saying "yes, they are there", please
> post where they are. Otherwise I will have to assume that this option is
> unavailable on a full task bar (aka broken).

> I'm using kde 4.3.4 btw.

I see according to distrowatch.com CentOS 6.6 was released with 4.3.4 only
last October. That's puzzling. 4.3.4 is now more than five years old, rather
new at its release, when KDE4 was quite buggy and lacking many KDE3 features.
Likely grouping was broken or missing in 4.3.4. Try some distro with any more
recent KDE4 version, or upgrading your KDE4 to something non-ancient.
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[kde] kscreen autoload defeat

2015-03-21 Thread Felix Miata
Did how to do this change from KDE4 to KF5?

Old way:
# kdedrc
[Module-kscreen]
autoload=false

New way???
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[kde] ISO 8601 date/time/metric format selection

2015-03-21 Thread Felix Miata
Is there something in Systemsettings -> Formats that equates to $SUBJECT
among those unwieldy by-region/country select lists? If so, what is/are
it/they called? I can't tell if https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340982
amounts to an answer or not.
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Re: [kde] How do I use kscreen?

2014-11-08 Thread Felix Miata
Nikos Chantziaras composed on 2014-11-08 18:45 (UTC+0200):

> Felix Miata wrote:

>>  Width:  51
>>  Height:  29

>> If those are correct, that's somewhere around a 55" screen, which at
>> 1920x1080 is a pixel density under 40.
...

> No, those are centimeters, not inches. These screen dimensions correctly 
> describe my 23" monitor:

You omitted quoting what followed

>> OTOH, earlier in that output is reported "MMSize: QSize(510, 290)", which is
>> a 23 inch 96 DPI screen.

which already explained the difference to any who notice the cm/mm
connection, which I didn't do. The bigger puzzle is why Xorg logs contain a
variety of units instead of picking just one and sticking to it.

>sqrt(51^2 + 29^2)
> That's a diagonal of 58cm, which is 23",

If actually 23.00", then it's 58.42cm. Display vendors often advertize a size
"class" rather than a true diagonal dimension.

> and that is my monitor's size.
> And, as it happens, that means a pixel density of 96.

More accurately, 23" is 95.778 DPI, as I figured out years ago:
http://fm.no-ip.com/PC/displays.html

##.# cm and ###. mm are both too granular for configuring X in all cases of
attempts via DisplaySize in xorg.conf* or --dpi in xrandr to force a desired
DE DPI as the DM starts instead of leaving the task to the DE. More often
than not they produce the desired result, but frequently they don't quite get
it right in both directions, and the only way I've found that always works is
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Re: [kde] How do I use kscreen?

2014-11-06 Thread Felix Miata
Duncan composed on 2014-11-06 08:42 (UTC):

> Note that it says first *DETAILED* timing is preferred.  The established 
> and standard timings are compatibility/legacy timings.  It's the first 
> DETAILED timing that's preferred, and as you can see here, that's 
> 1920x1080 (the h_active and v_active numbers) for this LG TV.  The dot-
> clock (aka PixClock) for that timing is 148.5 MHz.

> If your xorg log EDID has a preferred (likely first DETAILED) timing/
> resolution of 1024x768 and you're definitely using a native 1920x1080 
> full-HD monitor, then very likely that monitor EDID is defective and 
> reporting the wrong thing.

Nikos Chantziaras posted 2014-11-03 13:02:43:

"I upgraded my KDE installation to 4.11.13/4.14.2. I am now no longer
able to configure my monitor through KDE System Settings..."

Note keywords "upgraded" and "no longer".

> If OTOH, the EDID in xorg is saying 1920x1080 is preferred, then it's 
> gotta be the drivers screwing things up, tho at this point I'm pretty 
> sure it's going to be the monitor and the driver is simply a reporter of 
> the facts as it collects them, caught in the crossfire.

Not likely the upgrade process broke the display's EDID.

Note in http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=s7b9kvGv the large size of his display:
EDID Info:
Name:  "SyncMaster"
Width:  51
Height:  29

If those are correct, that's somewhere around a 55" screen, which at
1920x1080 is a pixel density under 40. Maybe that's the root of the problem,
some sort of driver sanity check failing and blacklisting the higher
resolution mode getting through the automagic process.

OTOH, earlier in that output is reported "MMSize: QSize(510, 290)", which is
a 23 inch 96 DPI screen. That in a way maybe is saying the EDID is broken,
maybe in a way that the older version/driver handled but the newer won't. I
can't tell without the whole Xorg.0.log. I'm guessing that 510,290 report may
be there because of normal X behavior when not overridden, forcing DPI to 96,
disregarding the actual display dimensions.

If that hardware was here for troubleshooting, I'd second[1] disable kscreen,
then either configure an xorg.conf or a suite of settings in xorg.conf.d/, or
try an X startup script forcing the desired settings using xrandr, similar to
thus:

# xrandr --output DVI-D-0 --mode 1920x1080

> ...various modeline generators to generate custom resolution modelines...

I've never post-XFree86 found it necessary to include a modeline in a config
file to get any display, with or without valid EDID, to use its
native/preferred mode, or any other supported mode. Given the parameters one
would feed a generator (desired mode, HorizSync range, VertRefresh range),
Xorg does what a generator does automatically, and for me, always 
satisfactorily.

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Re: [kde] Bad Gwenview

2014-08-03 Thread Felix Miata

On 2014-08-03 05:40 (GMT-0400) Duncan composed:


If you can't get gwenview behaving as you like,
try gimv and see if it works better for you.


The trackballs I own have no middle button, while keeping track of meanings 
of middle according to context is something I've never been able to manage, 
not to mention the difficulty of striking two buttons simultaneously.


I have many installations, making the complicated options (multiple displays, 
mapping) much too much trouble to contemplate.


Whatever version is whatever version, as most are whatever Cauldron, Factory 
or Rawhide offer. 4.13.80 just happened to be the one I wanted to view some 
images with.


I've been able to find no decent keyboards made since the early '90s. All I 
have were made before Win keys existed. "Decent" is defined to mean function 
keys where they belong, where one hand's fingers can hit any combination of 
Fn/Shift/Alt/Ctrl easily.


Looks like it has worked in v4 previously:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=291759

While gimv might be better than "Gwenview", KDE3's Gwenview clearly is, 
because when 100% is selected, that's the way it stays until another 
selection is made. Apparently I'm not the only one who thinks selecting 100% 
ought to be sticky:

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=334530
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[kde] Bad Gwenview

2014-08-03 Thread Felix Miata
In 4.13.80, is there a way to make it stop shifting back to fit from 100% 
when doing next/previous? The Fit button with mouse is a seriously long way 
away from the prv/nxt buttons. :-(

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Re: [kde] non-themed kdm greeter text needs to be bigger

2014-07-20 Thread Felix Miata

On 2014-07-21 02:14 (GMT) Duncan composed:


Felix Miata posted on Sun, 20 Jul 2014 10:18:34 -0400 as excerpted:



https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77321



Hmm...  Regarding that bug, I see in your xorg.conf you have a screen
section, but no display subsection.  Does adding a display subsection
with the following, in the screen section, work?



Subsection "Display"
Virtual 1920 1200
EndSubSection


The way I remember it, since I've not tried in a long time, is that including 
a display subsection is totally pointless when the driver in use is KMS, 
meaning FOSS, for intel, nouveau & radeon. Since KMS went mainstream, I have 
had display subsections configured only for legacy intel (810), r128, mga and 
sis gfxchips, all of which see little uptime here any more. For those old 
chips virtual still works, but with KMS, panning since server 1.10.3 or 
whatever was latest when https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39949 
was filed only works via xrandr, hence the quoted bug report.

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Re: [kde] non-themed kdm greeter text needs to be bigger

2014-07-20 Thread Felix Miata

On 2014-07-20 12:47 (GMT) Duncan composed:


Felix Miata posted on Sat, 19 Jul 2014 22:57:29 -0400 as excerpted:



kdmrc makes obvious how to choose sizes for main greeter texts headline,
std & fail. What's required to configure the greeter's menu text to be
the same legible size as the std text?
http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kde-workspace/kdm/configuring-kdm.html
doesn't say. Is there an indirect way to make all greeter text sizes
bigger without resorting to theming?



http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/greeterMousetypeKDE413.png



Looks like you figured out how to make a greeter screenshot (an earlier
question =:^).


Yes and no. I asked in multiple locations, got only one response, via IRC: 
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/x11vnc


That on its own was insufficient. I had to go back to IRC multiply to get it 
explained well enough to get the job done.


I'm still wanting an answer not involving remote access, something much 
simpler, as is the case while performing a typical distro installation.



Be that as it may, while I don't know the kde-specific technology, and
don't have a greeter installed here at all as I login at the CLI, one
general solution I've used to change font size in the past is to set X's
DPI...


On your giant display it may not have been obvious, but that screenshot was 
taken in what should be a 144 DPI context. It's a different degree problem 
according to what the DPI actually is, but not solvable via DPI when DPI has 
already been set where it needs to be set or DPI forcing is being ignored. It 
would be a lesser problem were not KDM ignoring the xrandr commands necessary 
to work around https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77321 and do DPI 
configuration via xorg.conf* DisplaySize instead of messing with xrandr.


KDM3 doesn't misbehave like KDM4 does:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=888055

Maybe I filed in the wrong place, but knowing what I know about v4 locking 
vs. v5 development, and LightDM replacing KDM, I suspect attempting a 
solution upstream of a distro would be an exercise in futility. Plus the 
complexity of getting a shot set up remotely made me avoid attempting to 
ensure that the problem and absence of apparent solution is the same on other 
than openSUSE.

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[kde] non-themed kdm greeter text needs to be bigger

2014-07-19 Thread Felix Miata
kdmrc makes obvious how to choose sizes for main greeter texts headline, std 
& fail. What's required to configure the greeter's menu text to be the same 
legible size as the std text? 
http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kde-workspace/kdm/configuring-kdm.html doesn't 
say. Is there an indirect way to make all greeter text sizes bigger without 
resorting to theming?


http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/greeterMousetypeKDE413.png
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[kde] Make a KDM greeter screenshot

2014-07-19 Thread Felix Miata
The instructions at 
http://linuxtidbits.wordpress.com/2009/12/07/taking-a-kdm-screenshot/ don't 
work for my openSUSE 13.1 KDE4/KDM4 installation. Anyone know where to find 
instructions that work?


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[kde] menu customiization

2014-06-05 Thread Felix Miata
I've used KMenuEdit to create a bunch of custom Internet items. This is one 
such, Firefox.desktop:


[Desktop Entry]
Comment=Web Browser
Exec[$e]=/usr/local/ffe10/firefox -no-remote -P ffe10
GenericName=Web Browser
Icon=firefox
Name=Firefox 10
Path[$e]=
StartupNotify=true
Terminal=0
TerminalOptions=
Type=Application
X-KDE-SubstituteUID=false
X-KDE-Username=

What I want to do is make them all available to all users on multiple systems 
in KDE's Internet menu. The problem is I can't find understandable 
instructions how to do this anywhere. 
http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kde-workspace/kmenuedit/index.html doesn't seem 
to cover it, and 
http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-1.0.html is clear as mud 
to me. Has anyone ever figured this out, or found an understandable howto 
covering it? Do custom .desktop files belong in /etc/xdg/ somewhere? Is 
placement in /usr/share/applications/ appropriate? TIA

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Re: [kde] FTP with different timezone on the server

2014-03-08 Thread Felix Miata

On 2014-03-08 22:12 (GMT) Duncan composed:


(There is one additional caveat, however.  I've been all freedomware for
over a decade so I haven't the foggiest if this still applies or not, but
at least MS Windows 9x assumed the hardware clock was local time, and
dual boots would thus have the time N hours off on the MS Windows side if
you had the hardware clock set to UTC.  One would hope they've fixed that
by now, and of course it doesn't apply if you're not dual booting, but
years ago at least, it was a problem with dual boot installations.)


https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Configuring_the_clock is one place that explains 
how Vista SP2 and newer Windows versions can use a registry "hack" that 
enables use of UTC. AFAIK, DOS, XP & older Windows versions, and OS2/eCS are 
all hard core local only. I'm frequently frustrated by the lasting 
inexplicable effect of the one hour DST changes on files transferred between 
Linux and eCS. I can reduce the effect by umounting eCS shares in Linux and 
shutting down eCS right before the clock change, but it only helps, is not a 
full cure those hours gained or lost copying or moving files across the network.

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Re: [kde] Downgrade KDE SC Version 4.12.2

2014-02-23 Thread Felix Miata

On 2014-02-23 15:18 (GMT+0700) Kanjana composed:


It looks like I need to reinstall the
distro (this might be a quicker way doing things).


It well might not. Experienced users usually keep /home on a separate 
filesystem to avoid possibility of data loss at OS installation and upgrade 
times. If this applies to you, it's somewhat unlikely a fresh OS installation 
will solve your problem, as it sounds like you have a configuration data 
corruption problem. As at least one other has already suggested, you should 
create a new login/user to see if it has the same problem before assuming a 
fresh installation might solve anything.

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Re: [kde] Downgrade KDE SC Version 4.12.2

2014-02-23 Thread Felix Miata

On 2014-02-23 15:18 (GMT+0700) Kanjana composed:


It looks like I need to reinstall the
distro (this might be a quicker way doing things).


It well might not. Experienced users usually keep /home on a separate 
filesystem to avoid possibility of data loss at OS installation and upgrade 
times. If this applies to you, it's somewhat unlikely a fresh OS installation 
will solve your problem, as it sounds like you have a configuration data 
corruption problem. As at least one other has already suggested, you should 
create a new login/user to see if it has the same problem before assuming a 
fresh installation might solve anything.

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Re: [kde] Konqueror please fix many bugs! And make Konqueror browser available!

2014-01-26 Thread Felix Miata

On 2014-01-26 14:58 (GMT+0100) Kevin Krammer composed:


http://www.nguyenthanhtoan.co.za/ wrote:



Konqueror please fix many bugs in Konqueror browser when browsing
http://www.facebook.com/



I don't have any problems using Facebook in Konqueror.
Make sure you have the kpart-webkit installed and selected "webkit" as the
HTML component in Konqueror's settings.


Choosing to use WebKit instead of KHTML discards an advantage Konq has over 
all[1] other current web browsers: the ability to display objects on screen 
at accurate physical sizes when KDE is configured to a DPI matching physical 
display device pixel density.


[1] specially styled web pages can enjoy the same advantage as Konq when 
viewed in recent Gecko browsers. Another exception is that most old and very 
old browser versions also are able to display physical sizes accurately if 
the DE is properly configured. Still another exception is when the physical 
display device is in fact 96 DPI, and DE DPI is at the usual OEM default of 
96, in which case all browsers can display objects at accurate physical sizes.

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Re: [kde] System Sounds gone since 4.11.4

2014-01-13 Thread Felix Miata

On 2014-01-13 14:13 (GMT-0800) Jerome Yuzyk composed:


Since KDE 4.11.4 (and now .5) I have lost my System Sounds. Audio works
fine in all other ways (videos, streaming music). All sounds that were
enabled before are still enabled.


Are you *sure*?


 Any ideas what to look at?


Are you referring to startup and shutdown sounds? The devs in their infinite 
wisdom have decided they should be off by default. This change has caused 
those of huge numbers of users to change to the new default, which because 
they had not been previously changed from default are considered 
personalizations never made, thus not necessary to be preserved when the 
default changed.

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Re: [kde] Why do you prefer KDE?

2013-12-22 Thread Felix Miata

On 2013-12-21 18:45 (GMT-0800) Bruce Byfield composed:


As you may have heard, KDE recently topped the Linux Journal's Readers' Choice
Awards.



That got me thinking. Why do people prefer KDE? What advantages do you think
it has over other desktop environments?


Originally it became my DE of choice because it was pleasant looking, in 
contrast to the ugliness that was Gnome when I was first exposed to both over 
a decade ago. The more I learned, the more I came to value KDE's ability to 
be adapted to me instead of me adapting to its writers' ideas how things 
ought to be.


KDE4 lost some of its adaptability when it was rewritten to exclude various 
KDE3 features, some of which KDE4 still lacks[1], are poorly implemented[2], 
or are hampered by misfeatures[3], while imposing its difficult to disable or 
eradicate "semantic desktop". I have only KDE3 installed on my 24/7 system, 
while my other systems are about a 50/50 split between KDE3 & KDE4, not 
counting a nominal representation of selected other non-Gnome-derived DEs.


[1] e.g. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158556
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=229984

[2] e.g. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=297217

[3] e.g. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318061
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=297219

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Re: [kde] window snap ignores window border but open doesn't

2013-11-21 Thread Felix Miata

On 2013-11-21 10:51 (GMT) Duncan composed:

Shortest Duncan email I can remember ever encountering, only 8 new non-blank 
lines added to thread. :-)



You're not the only one finding it frustrating =:^( , but based on an
earlier thread[1], that's the new (deliberate) snapping behavior.
Presumably opening behavior will switch to that at some point as well.


Did you ever find the discussion of a proposal to implement this change? I 
looked briefly without success?


I saw the clever workaround of adding panels on all sides in 
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=323504 and commented/CC'd its 
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=325286 successor. My workaround for this 
and other KDE4 paradigm replacements is the same one I've been using since 
the v4.0 was unleashed - use v4 on (my many) test installations only, where 
"improvements" need not be a source of constant irritation and frustration, 
but KDE3 for mailnews, 15 tabs across two IRC windows, triple digit+ tabs 
among 6+ different web browsers, 10 Konsole tabs among 2 windows, and other 
routine applications on my 24/7 desktop. Lest anyone think KDE3 is "old", I 
keep another system booted to OS/2 24/7 for my DOS DB & spreadsheet apps. 
What ain't broke don't need fixin.

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[kde] global disable maximize windows by dragging to top of screen?

2013-09-14 Thread Felix Miata
Is there a way to make drag to top of screen mean *only* drag to top of 
screen and nothing more, systemwide for all users? If so, how?

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Re: [kde] Introduction + create a custom user profile for KDE 4.10.5

2013-08-19 Thread Felix Miata

On 2013-08-19 11:37 (GMT+0200) Niki Kovacs composed:


* Deactivate all graphical effects. [1]

...

[1] It's not that I don't like these. It's just that sometimes I have to
install desktops on relatively low-spec hardware, and this is just to be
on the safe side.


One can do virtually all bling disabling globally (even on faster systems), 
instead of within KDE, thus:


# /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/70-extensions.conf
Section "Extensions"
Option  "Composite" "Disable"
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Re: [kde] [openSUSE] kdenlive

2013-08-07 Thread Felix Miata

On 2013-08-07 15:07 (GMT+0100) Sérgio Basto composed:


On 2013-08-06 at 23:40 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:



Anyone successfully using this? http://www.kdenlive.org/ remains down (since
Saturday at least), but I installed it anyway based on a look at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kdenlive.



rpmfusion ship it for Fedora ,



repoquery -q kdenlive --nvr
kdenlive-0.9.6-2.fc19


Same system has F19, so I installed this, which uses a newer 0.8.8 mlt 
version. Its file picker also only offers the same three file types to open, 
none of which I recognize as common video file types.



So far it is just as unintuitive and
useless very other "video editing" application I've tried, which is a bunch.



have you a better suggestion ?


I was hoping someone would provide me with either a usable suggestion, or an 
explanation what it is I'm missing.

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[kde] [openSUSE] kdenlive

2013-08-06 Thread Felix Miata
Anyone successfully using this? http://www.kdenlive.org/ remains down (since 
Saturday at least), but I installed it anyway based on a look at 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kdenlive. So far it is just as unintuitive and 
useless very other "video editing" application I've tried, which is a bunch.


Just getting it installed was no fun. I tried it on 12.1, 12.2 and 12.3. On 
12.1 it wouldn't install due to some obsolete mlt5 requirement with only a 
newer mlt6 available. On 12.2 I only managed to get the older v0.6. On 12.3 I 
first got a non-functional 0.9.4 because it required an older ffmpeg than the 
one installed. By forcing to the 0.9.6 version from Packman it installed, but 
without having pulled in various packages that I had no expectation of 
needing (dvgrab, dvdauthor, genisoimage/mkisofs).


The obvious place to start, I would think, is to open a video file, so that's 
what I tried. Since all the files I have that need commercials removed are 
.ts files, apparently I need something less obvious than "file open", as its 
file picker found none of my .ts files in the directories in which they are 
located.


So, is this yet another program that can't remove commercials from video 
transport stream files? If it can, how? Help doesn't work ("help center" not 
installed, without mention of package name containing "help center"). Do I 
have to "capture" from the .ts files before editing? Is some sort of filter 
missing? The file picker filter list only has 3 entries, none of which I 
recognize as a video file type. Is there a FAQ somewhere that's accessible 
that lists the file types it can work with?


TIA
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Re: [kde] SUSE/4.10.x konsole stuck on taskbar

2013-07-19 Thread Felix Miata

On 2013-07-19 15:36 (GMT-0400) Felix Miata composed:


This has been happening for months on several systems. When session is exited
with Konsole open at 0,0, on approximately every other session start, Konsole
opens on taskbar, and can't be restored. Only ways to get it back are exit
and start session again, or close Konsole from its taskbar context menu and
start anew. Do others see this?


https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=320561 looks like a match.
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[kde] SUSE/4.10.x konsole stuck on taskbar

2013-07-19 Thread Felix Miata
This has been happening for months on several systems. When session is exited 
with Konsole open at 0,0, on approximately every other session start, Konsole 
opens on taskbar, and can't be restored. Only ways to get it back are exit 
and start session again, or close Konsole from its taskbar context menu and 
start anew. Do others see this?

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[kde] 4.10.4: GTK KCM

2013-06-28 Thread Felix Miata
The former kcm_gtk package is missing in openSUSE's factory, factory-snapshot 
and KDE unstable OBS. There is no GTK

section after fonts in systemsettings. Has something replaced or obsoleted it?
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Re: [kde] Virtually Invisible Panel Clock

2013-05-31 Thread Felix Miata

On 2013-05-31 10:28 (GMT+0200) tors...@tfrey.de composed:


Felix Miata composed in English:



On 2013-05-30 22:10 (GMT-0400) Doug composed:



 Maybe there's a way in your distro to change the taskbar color?



Of course there is. That's not the point, which is it should be
legible with whatever theming the distro uses as default. What point
is there in a theme that makes the clock nearly invisible no matter
how big it is?



If I understand correctly you want to change the color of the clock? I
have openSuse, but I think this is KDE and does not depend on the distro.
Try to do a right-click on the clock, I have an option "settings for
digital clock". Here I can change the color of the font , if the font
should have a shadow and in which color.


I'm not interested in fixing it for each and every new user. I want idiotic 
default invisibility avoided somehow, like it used to be, black text on 
whatever light background color, or white text on whatever dark background 
color. I need to find out what's responsible for the insanity before I can 
chose whether and where to file a bug about it.

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Re: [kde] Virtually Invisible Panel Clock

2013-05-30 Thread Felix Miata

On 2013-05-30 22:10 (GMT-0400) Doug composed:


 Maybe there's a way in your distro to change the taskbar color?


Of course there is. That's not the point, which is it should be legible with 
whatever theming the distro uses as default. What point is there in a theme 
that makes the clock nearly invisible no matter how big it is?

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Re: [kde] Virtually Invisible Panel Clock

2013-05-30 Thread Felix Miata

On 2013-05-30 21:01 (GMT-0400) Doug composed:


Felix Miata wrote:



Regardless of distro, every new install I can recall in the last year
or more the panel clock is all but useless. Why doesn't any theme used
by default or containing string "upstream" in Fedora, openSUSE or
Mageia have a legible clock (same as the adjacent icons, like Klipper
and the panel settings button)?



I don't know about the other distros, but in PCLinuxOS, there is a nice
digital clock at the right end of the "panel" or task-bar.


$SUBJECT was meant literally:
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/kdemageialowfipanelclock1200-120.png

Not nice, and looks the same in 4.10.3 in Fedora and openSUSE.
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[kde] Virtually Invisible Panel Clock

2013-05-30 Thread Felix Miata
Regardless of distro, every new install I can recall in the last year or more 
the panel clock is all but useless. Why doesn't any theme used by default or 
containing string "upstream" in Fedora, openSUSE or Mageia have a legible 
clock (same as the adjacent icons, like Klipper and the panel settings button)?

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[kde] global default panel height change?

2013-04-15 Thread Felix Miata
In openSUSE, 
/usr/share/kde4/apps/plasma/layout-templates/org.kde.plasma-desktop.defaultPanel/contents/layout.js 
contains this line:


panel.height = screenGeometry(panel.screen).height > 899 ? 35 : 27

I always want 25%-33% more panel height than KDE developers think is 
appropriate, so I have been changing it to


panel.height = screenGeometry(panel.screen).height > 899 ? 47 : 35

Each system update that included this file was overwriting my change. To 
compensate, I've been setting the immutable flag on the file. But this causes 
rpm failure when overwrite fails, and the updated package according to the 
package management system remains available for installation, not installed.


What and where can be done to globally change the default height so that for 
each new user creation it starts out taller when KDE is first launched, but 
without causing this recurring updates headache caused by using the immutable 
flag?


Note: all this would be unnecessary if 
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=229984 were fixed, so that personalizing 
panel height, as in KDE3, to a fixed and known value were possible without 
spending 20 minutes stabbing the panel with a mouse until the right number 
appeared at random.

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Re: [kde] Yet another failed KDE release?

2013-03-24 Thread Felix Miata

On 2013-03-24 13:30 (GMT+0100) Kevin Krammer composed:


Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote:



It would be a help if KDE did not store in hidden "configuration" files
(.kde4) a mort of stuff that is in fact user data, like all the Kmail
messages, Konqueror  bookmarks, etc.



Actually .kde/ :)


Actually it depends on whether you use it in a distro that supplanted KDE3 
with (alphaware) KDE 4.0 (e.g. Fedora, as with Grub Legacy supplanted by 
Grub2; and Mandriva), or added KDE4 as an additional installation choice 
(e.g. openSUSE 12.3 released this month offering both KDE 3.5 and KDE 4.10, 
also as with Grub Legacy and Grub2; and Mageia 3's offer of both Grub Legacy 
and Grub2, having learned a huge lesson from KDE3->KDE4). 3 & 4 can't both 
use .kde/ (cf. /boot/grub plus /boot/grub2 vs. only /boot/grub) in the same 
$HOME without causing big trouble.

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Re: [kde] Yet another failed KDE release?

2013-03-23 Thread Felix Miata

On 2013-03-23 02:10 (GMT+0200) Nikos Chantziaras composed:


The way things are, there's never gonna be a stable KDE version.  Not in
a billion years.


You mean besides the one that already exists? KDE3 -> TDE, not to mention 
openSUSE's KDE3, where the only work done is keeping it building and 
eradicating bugs, adding no new "features".

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Re: [kde] How to set the screen resolution and gamma value?

2013-01-18 Thread Felix Miata

On 2013-01-18 17:51 (GMT+0100) Volker Wysk composed:


You just have to install kgamma, then you get a Gamma control
in System settings -> display and monitor -> Gamma



Why, for heaven's sake, isn't something like that installed by default?!


You'll have to ask the packagers of your distro to be sure, but I'd surmise 
it's because less than .01% of users have a clue what gamma is, and fewer 
care to futz with it, which makes it a non-essential component of a default 
installation.

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Re: [kde] How to set the screen resolution and gamma value?

2013-01-16 Thread Felix Miata

On 2013-01-16 15:18 (GMT+0100) Volker Wysk composed:


I've updated from KDE 4.4 to KDE 4.8.4, and now I can't set the screen's
resolution any longer. There's only one choice: 1920*1440. With this, the
screen flickers, especially when the background is bright.


What distro? What Xorg version? What output from 'lspci | grep VGA'? Which 
video driver shows in use in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? Exactly how/where did you 
set it before? Are you saying krandrtray no longer works?



 In addition, the
font in the menu bars is so small, I can hardly read it.


You may want to try forcing DPI as an overall scaling factor if you don't 
like specifying fonts in the desktop font settings panel in systemsettings. 
With most drivers, DisplaySize can do it. Look at 
http://fm.no-ip.com/Share/DisplaySize for examples. For proprietary NVidia 
drivers it can be done a bit more directly.



"xrandr -q" yealds:



xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
Screen 0: minimum 1920 x 1440, current 1920 x 1440, maximum 1920 x 1440
default connected 1920x1440+0+0 0mm x 0mm
   1920x1440   0.0*



In KDE 4.4 I was able to set the screen's resolution.


Last I checked it still does, though I almost never do it in the DE itself, 
preferring to use an xorg.conf* solution instead, where PreferredMode is the 
keyword. Check out the xorg.conf* files on http://fm.no-ip.com/Share/ for 
basic examples, and note that config files are for overriding automagic, 
which few need for mouse or keyboard any more. It's better to leave unneeded 
overrides out of config files.

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Re: [kde] xserver module missing from kcmshell4 in 4.9.90 in mageia

2012-12-13 Thread Felix Miata

On 2012-12-14 06:21 (GMT) Duncan composed:


Felix Miata posted on Thu, 13 Dec 2012 20:54:09 -0500 as excerpted:



Is this intentional?



FWIW, I have it here in 4.9.90 on gentoo.



Do you have kinfocenter installed?


I didn't think to check that until after clicking send, then I forgot I did.

I don't use Mageia much (or KDE4 for that matter as KDE still hasn't fixed my 
personal blocker bugs 283366 & 158556, a big reason why not Mageia), and 
since this is Cauldron, I had no idea what to expect in doing a minimal 
install followed by installing the packages I knew I needed with urpmi 
--no-recommends.



kinfocenter is in turn part of the kde-workspace tarball as shipped by
upstream kde, so that's probably the package name if your distro ships
only the monolithic unsplit packages, one per tarball, not the individual
split packages in each tarball.


Looks like Mageia's inherited Mandriva's un-bright splitting nuisance.
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[kde] xserver module missing from kcmshell4 in 4.9.90 in mageia

2012-12-13 Thread Felix Miata

Is this intentional?
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Re: [kde] Nepomuk

2012-10-12 Thread Felix Miata

On 2012-10-12 16:28 (GMT-0500) Brian J Densmore composed:


Nepomuk is required to be installed in the latest KDE.


But it isn't required to be running. KDE is highly configurable. Look up the 
following:

nepomukserverrc
nepomukstrigirc
[Basic Settings]
Start Nepomuk=false
[main Settings]
Used Soprano Backend=null
rebuilt index for type indexing=false
[Service-nepomukstrigiservice]
autostart=false
[General]
folders[$e]=$HOME/tmp/null
index hidden folders=false
index newly mounted=false
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[kde] no way to add application to panel in 4.8.4 in openSUSE

2012-08-07 Thread Felix Miata
Where is this supposed to be? Right clicking panel only brings up a list of 
three: task manager settings, panel options, and remove task manager, and 
allows to add widgets via panel "options", but not applications.

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Re: [kde] 4.8.4 large mouse pointer configuration

2012-08-07 Thread Felix Miata

On 2012/08/07 08:57 (GMT+0200) Burkhard Lück composed:


Felix Miata composed:



 Where is it?



Systemsettings:
Workspace Appearance and Behavior ->   Workspace Appearance ->  Cursor Theme
page


This accessibility handicap (chicken <-> egg) begs another question: why 
should anyone need to change it? Why doesn't the mouse pointer size adjust 
automatically as screen pixel density is increased like text does? The system 
that raised this question is 180 DPI, where the default pointer is all but 
invisible to the eyes that routinely use it.



 I expect to see something either under input devices ->
 mouse,  or somewhere in accessibility, but I see it in neither. Is some
 special package needed?



No, it is in kdebase/kde-workspace

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[kde] 4.8.4 large mouse pointer configuration

2012-08-06 Thread Felix Miata
Where is it? I expect to see something either under input devices -> mouse, 
or somewhere in accessibility, but I see it in neither. Is some special 
package needed? KDE3 had a package called kdeaccessibility, but I see nothing 
related in KDE4. :-(

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Re: [kde] Remove "Send to" entries from Ksnapshot

2012-06-25 Thread Felix Miata

Re: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=287663

I don't see any such thing as "send to" or "export to" in 4.8.4 on openSUSE. 
Where is it hiding?


Could the slowness have some relationship to 
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=283366 ?

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Re: [kde] How to setup dual monitor in kde?

2012-05-28 Thread Felix Miata

On 2012/05/28 08:56 (GMT) Duncan composed:


I can now say kde4's better than kde3!


Lucky you. I can't:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158556
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=283366
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Re: [kde] Tell who did you PAY to include Akonadi?

2012-03-31 Thread Felix Miata

On 2012/03/31 11:13 (GMT+0200) Kevin Krammer composed:


However, KDE, as a lot of other Free Software initiatives, is open for
contributions from all people, not just developers. So if anyone wants to
contribute user level documentation for any of those software components they
are very welcome to do so.



My understanding is that this is a rather straight forward process, basically
just logging into userbase.kde.org and creating a new page or adding to an
already existing one.


That a mere mortal user _can_ contribute documentation doesn't account for 
the knowledge of what to write. It's the devs who know what capabilities and 
methods for utilizing them are being put in, not ordinary users, no matter 
what writing talents they have to offer. I doubt many users with the urge to 
contribute have the clairvoyance to know what the devs are thinking or the 
talent to read sources to figure out what to write. I once accepted a job to 
write official documentation for an app. All I was given was a beta of the 
app and a PC to compose on. I got nowhere trying to write anything.

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Re: [kde] Tell who did you PAY to include Akonadi?

2012-03-31 Thread Felix Miata

On 2012/03/31 08:20 (GMT) Duncan composed:


I wonder if there's a kde4-desktop-based binary distro somewhere that
never-the-less defaults to disabling at build-time all the semantic-
desktop stuff


A simple non-semantic option (not default) apparently is in the works for 
openSUSE: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2012-03/msg00675.html

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Re: [kde] Error starting kde4 after upgrade from OpenSuse 11.4 to 12.1

2011-12-07 Thread Felix Miata

On 2011/12/07 16:04 (GMT) Duncan composed:


Meanwhile, there's a SuSE using regular here who may be able to help
better than I can, as I'm on Gentoo, not SuSE.  Hopefully he'll be along
shortly...


https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=732342#c11 pending hardware info.
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Re: [kde] Konsole fonts: just a jump o the left

2011-11-17 Thread Felix Miata

On 2011/11/17 15:27 (GMT) Duncan composed:


Felix Miata posted on Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:43:18 -0500 as excerpted:



 Do you ever test in anything besides Gentoo? Are you sure you don't have
 a fontconfig problem?



Dotan doesn't use Gentoo.  AFAIK (from a different thread) he uses
kubuntu.



I'm a gentooer, as are Dale and Alex/Wonko, but not Dotan.


This is what sometimes happen when I don't get enough sleep, a recurring 
problem for me. I see Duncan and Dotan in a thread and don't realize I'm 
seeing two different people until after more sleep or a post like yours. :-(


I spend the most time by far in eCS & openSUSE, but ATM I'm updating a 
Mandriva 2011 to follow up on https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=58615 
and your previous thread post. That box also has Kubuntu, so I can try the 
same if mine can be found to match Dotan's release version.

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Re: [kde] Konsole fonts: just a jump o the left

2011-11-17 Thread Felix Miata

On 2011/11/17 13:16 (GMT+0200) Dotan Cohen composed:


Felix Miata  wrote:



 Long time ago. Don't remember whether bug filed in a distro or in KDE, but
 got fixed. I looked and couldn't find it. Did you try a different font
 family with similar result, like Droid Sans Mono or DejaVu Sans Mono?



Most of the fonts do suffer this, and all the legible ones. There do
exits fonts (FreeMono for instance) which do not suffer.


Turns out the bug I had in mind isn't yet closed: 
https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=58615


I forgot about this one: https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=57564

Do you ever test in anything besides Gentoo? Are you sure you don't have a 
fontconfig problem?

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Re: [kde] Konsole fonts: just a jump o the left

2011-11-17 Thread Felix Miata

On 2011/11/16 20:40 (GMT+0200) Dotan Cohen composed:


I had changed my Konsole font size, and now the cursor is
half-covering the preceding letter. Playing with the font size I
cannot get the cursor to go back to where it should be. See screen
shot (attached).

Has anyone else ever encountered this? What must I do?


Long time ago. Don't remember whether bug filed in a distro or in KDE, but 
got fixed. I looked and couldn't find it. Did you try a different font family 
with similar result, like Droid Sans Mono or DejaVu Sans Mono?

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Re: [kde] Question about Kubuntu

2011-08-12 Thread Felix Miata

Wilson, Richard composed:


I have been using Fedora for years and prefer it, but a teammate has
convinced me to try Ubuntu -- he's managed to dispose of everything
Windows (ok, he runs an XP VM for those times he HAS to connect to a
website that requires IE).  But everything else, including some weird
VPN's we have to reach have just come up working for him. I am still
trying to get one of them (Cisco AnyConnect) working under Fedora 15
64...


As he's suggested a change from Fedora, it may be related to Fedora being the 
foremost bleeding edge distro, while *buntu is a bit more conservative. If 
you're looking for less bleeding, but fewer differences, you may want to try 
another RPM distro. Or for greater flexibility, Debian proper.


Just so you are aware, *buntu is Debian-based, so you'll find more 
differences from what you're used to than you would if trying another RPM 
distro like openSUSE or Mandriva. The biggest difference is the low level 
package managers, dkpg in Debian, compared to rpm in Fedora. Fedora builds 
Yum/Yumex front ends on top of RPM, while Debians build Apt-get, Aptitude, 
Adept (which I routinely refer to as Inept), Smart & Synaptic front ends on 
top of Dpkg.


A major reason why I avoid routine use of Debians is the lumping of 
everything in to only two runlevels, single, which is as the name implies, 
and same as in Fedora: single user, no networking, no X.


Debian runlevel 2 is everything: full networking and X. This makes X 
troubleshooting rather clumsy compared to distros like Fedora and openSUSE 
that put multiuser+full networking in runlevel 3 and start GDM or KDM or 
equivalent only in runlevel 5.



The last time I tried Ubuntu (it was the Karmic Koala release) I noticed
that the download install DVD's came in 2 flavors, Ubuntu and Kubuntu. I
am used to Fedora where I tell it to install KDE when I install the O/S.
Are there still separate installation disks/processes for Ubuntu? If so
what's the thinking behind that?  With Karmic I had to get an alternate
Kubuntu DVD to work with my old hardware; my new hardware (hopefully)
won't be so picky.


The thinking is a complete installation from a single _CD_. One initial 
facilitator of *buntu popularity was its distribution of free CDs merely for 
the asking. It may be that this policy remains in force. If now *buntus are 
available in DVD, it's a relatively recent development. On a CD, there's not 
room for a complete KDE and complete Gnome and the default apps that come 
with either, so different CDs have been provided according to which DTE is 
preferred. Any CD can be used as base to add any or all of the other 
available DTEs. IOW, if you install from a Kubuntu CD, adding Gnome can be as 
simple as running 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'.

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Re: [kde] application starter, etc

2011-08-07 Thread Felix Miata

On 2011/08/07 22:13 (GMT) Duncan composed:


Felix Miata composed:



 Which package should provide the panel?



It sounds like the functional package is installed, since you're getting
a desktop at all.  The panel, the desktop, that's all part of plasma (the
binary is plasma-desktop, the packages would include plasma-runtime,


no such package


plasma-workspace,


no such package


plasma-apps,


no such package


libplasmagenericshell, libplasmaclock,


Both installed.


kdeplasma-addons,


Installing this would pull 77 runner, applet, wallpaper, dataengine groups, 
plus 7 more libs, & marble-common. Plus plasma-desktoptheme-default, which I 
installed, but didn't help.



 etc, or possibly kdebase-runtime and kdebase-workspace,
if mandriva is packaging the unsplit upstream kde tarballs).  However, it
sounds like you may be missing an icons package, or more likely, the KDE
SYstem COnfig CAche (sycoca) is screwed up and/or you have some vital
environmental settings badly messed up.



Does mandriva still use their own menu system as they used to, years
ago?  If so, it could be related to that and nothing other distros would
even know about.


I think the massive differences were dispensed with several years ago.

I decided to evaluate another approach, 'urpmi task-kde4-minimal 
--no-suggests', which wants to install the following 15 packages:

ark
dolphin
keditbookmarks
kfind
kmozillahelper
kwrite
libdolphinprivate4
libkbookmarkmodel_private4
libkerfuffle4
libkonq5
libpsync1
plasma-applet-folderview
plasma-desktoptheme-aya
plasma-wallpaper-timeoftheday
task-kde4-minimal

So I tried picking likely candidates for genuine deps, one by one, except 
with both plasma-desktoptheme-default and plasma-desktoptheme-rosa already 
installed, none except maybe folderview look like real deps. So I tried urpme 
plasma-desktoptheme-rosa, and it wants to remove kdebase4-workspace, 
plasma-desktoptheme-default, rosa-launcher & rosapanel. After seeing a lot of 
rosas mentioned in thread subjects on the Mandriva mailing list lately, and 
with 2011 still in RC, I suppose rosa may be the only available launcher, and 
broken. I think I'll just give up on this until after 2011 gets past RC.


FWIW, this is what *kdm*, *kde* & *plasma* are installed:
free-kde4-config-2011-0.85-mdv2011.0.noarch
kde4-nsplugins-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
kde4-splash-mdv-2010.1.0-3-mdv2011.0.i586
kde4-windeco-dekorator-0.5.1-6-mdv2011.0.i586
kdeadmin4-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
kdeartwork4-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
kdeartwork4-color-schemes-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.noarch
kdeartwork4-emoticons-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.noarch
kdeartwork4-kscreensaver-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
kdeartwork4-sounds-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.noarch
kdeartwork4-styles-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
kdeartwork4-wallpapers-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.noarch
kdebase4-runtime-4.6.5-6-mdv2011.0.i586
kdebase4-workspace-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
kdebase4-workspace-googlegadgets-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
kdegraphics4-core-4.6.5-3-mdv2011.0.i586
kde-l10n-en_US-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.noarch
kdelibs4-core-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
kdepimlibs4-core-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
kdm-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
kdmfprintplugin-0.0-0.1050414.5-mdv2011.0.i586
libakonadi-kde4-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
libkde3support4-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
libkdecorations4-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
libkdecore5-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
libkdefakes5-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
libkdesu5-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
libkdeui5-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
libkdewebkit5-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
libkwineffects1-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
liblockdev1-1.0.3-12-mdv2011.0.i586
libplasma3-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
libplasma_applet_system_monitor4-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
libplasmaclock4-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
libplasmagenericshell4-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
libplasma-geolocation-interface4-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
mandriva-kde4-config-common-2011-0.85-mdv2011.0.noarch
mandriva-kde-icons-1.0.4-13-mdv2011.0.noarch
mandriva-kde-translation-2011-1-mdv2011.0.noarch
plasma-applet-calculator-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-applet-folderview-4.6.5-8-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-applet-showdesktop-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-applet-stackfolder-0.1.9-12-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-applet-system-monitor-cpu-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-applet-system-monitor-hdd-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-applet-system-monitor-hwinfo-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-applet-system-monitor-net-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-applet-system-monitor-temperature-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-desktoptheme-default-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
plasma-desktoptheme-rosa-1.2.0-4-mdv2011.0.noarch
plasma-scriptengine-python-4.6.5-5-mdv2011.0.i586
polkit-kde-agent-1-0.99.0-3-mdv2011.0.i586
python-kde4-4.6.5-1-mdv2011.0.i586
xsettings-kde-0.11-5-mdv2011.0.i586
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[kde] application starter, etc

2011-08-07 Thread Felix Miata
What package is supposed to provide a home for this? Apparently Mandriva's 
4.6.5 doesn't include it as a dep of anything necessary to reach a KDE 
desktop. Startx gets me a KDE desktop, but most icons are missing, including 
the default app starter icon. There's a white X on a red background at the 
left end of the panel, and to its right are 5 empties, then tools. RMB on the 
X produces no response. LMB on it produces a list of 3 items: AROSA starter 
settings, Panel options & Remove this AROSA starter.


Similar question for systemsettings. It opens, but none of its selections open.

Kcmshell4 can't find some basic modules either. Grepping for locale in --list 
output produces nothing.


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[kde] Re: 4.7 nepomuk won't die

2011-07-30 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/07/30 11:55 (GMT) Duncan composed:

> There REALLY needs to be an option SOMEWHERE (discoverable, preferably in
> the notification itself, if that's possible) to turn that off.

+2^2

I never use any of kmail, dolphin or *pim*, and can't imagine anything else I 
would actually use that should require semantic desktop be enabled. I use 
SeaMonkey for mail, addressbook & IRC, largely because they are 
cross-platform, allowing me to support friends and others stuck in Windows 
needing mail help. There is only OFM for file management, MC in Linux, 
efficiently running whether X works (or needed) or not.
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[kde] Re: updates

2011-07-30 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/07/30 08:02 (GMT-0400) Duncan composed:

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> BUT, the account management link append appears and
> is visible in EVERY post, so there's no reason for confusion unless you
> simply don't bother to read it.

Or maybe it's not there for him to read. Some email readers don't show 
anything past the line before "-- ".
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[kde] 4.7 nepomuk won't die

2011-07-29 Thread Felix Miata
I went into systemsettings to disable it. Now it periodically pops up a 
window telling me it's disabled. How do I make it go away, and stay away?

openSUSE Factory (12.1M3)
kdebase4-4.7.0-2.1.i586
kdebase4-libkonq-4.7.0-2.1.i586
kdebase4-nsplugin-4.7.0-2.1.i586
kdebase4-openSUSE-12.1-39.1.i586
kdebase4-runtime-4.7.0-2.1.i586
kdebase4-runtime-branding-upstream-4.7.0-2.1.i586
kdebase4-runtime-xine-4.7.0-2.1.i586
kdebase4-session-4.6.95-11.1.noarch
kdebase4-workspace-4.7.0-1.1.i586
kdebase4-workspace-branding-upstream-4.7.0-1.1.i586
kdebase4-workspace-ksysguardd-4.7.0-1.1.i586
kdebase4-workspace-liboxygenstyle-4.7.0-1.1.i586
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[kde] Re: Link (impossibly generic systemsettings and system monitor): GNOME & KDE Developers Go To Battle Over A Name

2011-07-24 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/07/24 08:45 (GMT+0100) Peter Nikolic composed:

> WHat was wrong with the old " Personal Settings "  name  as in KDE 3.x.x  i

Personal Settings was not a KDE moniker, but one used by openSUSE and maybe 
some other distros.

> could never understand the need for change except to pre-empt this exact
> problem, After all  the settings in question are for the individual user so if
> user 1 logs out and user 2 logs in user2 may want/need different  stiings 
> hence
> thay are not System but on a Per user basis

Not that there's any justification for what Gnome devs did, but what _was_ 
wrong with KControl? KControl still makes more sense to me, as it doesn't 
imply global settings management, as opposed to user-specific settings 
management, which is most of what they do.
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[kde] Re: disable fx prior to first 4.6 startups

2011-07-07 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/07/08 01:35 (GMT+0200) Alex Schuster composed:

> I have a dual core AMD 4850e CPU with 2.5 GHz, and on-board Radeon HD3200
> video (using the open-source radeon driver). Which seems to be barely enough
> to run KDE4 (using six desktops and running much stuff I must admit). top
> gives these values, sampled over two minutes:

>27% X
>16% kwin
>13% plasma-desktop
> 5% amarok
> 5% dbus-daemon
> 3% udisks-daemon
> 3% akonadi_imap_re
> 3% akonadiserver
> 3% mysqld
> 2% kget
> 2% knotify4

KDE 3.5.10 on P4HT 3.4G & 4G DDR2-800; 32bit 2.6.31; rv380 Radeon running 
FOSS driver:
uptime 16 days
%CPU%MEMCommand
1   9.7 seamonkey-bin (2.2, 14 CZ tabs, 32 browser tabs)
2   6.8 Xorg
2   3.9 firefox-bin (3.6.18, only Flash-enabled Gecko)
0   3.3 seamonkey-bin (2.1, mail)
1   3.2 firefox-bin (5.0)
1   2.7 firefox (2.0.0.20)
0   1.7 konqueror
0   0.6 kpdf
0   0.5 kicker
0   0.5 ksnapshot
0   0.4 konsole
0   0.4 kwin
0   0.4 kded
0   0.4 konsole
0   0.4 ksirc
0   0.4 plugin-containe
1   0.4 kcmshell
0   0.3 kmix
0   0.3 kdesktop
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[kde] Re: disable fx prior to first 4.6 startups

2011-07-07 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/07/07 15:53 (GMT-0600) Stephen Dowdy composed:

> alternatively, programmatically:

> kwin_compositing_active=$(qdbus org.kde.kwin /KWin 
> org.kde.KWin.compositingActive)
> [ "${kwin_compositing_active}" = "true" ]&&  qdbus org.kde.kwin 
> org.kde.KWin.toggleCompositing

> I prefer to state modifications to config files in terms of 
> k{read,write}config
> statements, as these should work regardless of the distro (i think).  This
> should make it easier for end-users to get the desired effect w/o having to
> hunt around or try to figure out why a section/key/file don't exist.
> Just Cut/Paste and voila' (crossing fingers...)

> This will work to disable compositing for the user that runs it (after logout
> and log-back-in, or if they've never logged in yet:

> kwriteconfig --file kwinrc --group Compositing --key Enabled false

> This should work to create a SITE-specific (or machine specific)
> Override (that should not be touched by system updates).  This will/should
> create files, group sections, and keys as appropriate
> if they don't already exist.

> 
> kde_etc_config=$(kde4-config --path config | cut -f2 -d:)
> kwriteconfig --file ${kde_etc_config}/kwinrc --group Compositing --key 
> Enabled false
> 

> At least this all "Works for Me(tm)" ;)

I'll keep that in mind, but I just stumbled onto something that looks 
(possibly) easier, and even more global (since it's in /etc/, where global 
config files belong) on the ATI mailing list. 
http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-driver-ati/2011-July/020647.html


I put a file:
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/composite.conf with the following:

Section "Extensions"
Option  "Composite" "Disable"
EndSection


I almost always need tweaks in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ 
anyway, so this would be a minor change to what I'm already doing, if it 
works regardless of distro. I'm usually multibooting, and all distros added 
after the first on a system I typically pre-config with things like HOSTNAME, 
exports, profile.local, resolv.conf and more.
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[kde] Re: disable fx prior to first 4.6 startups

2011-07-07 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/07/07 22:54 (GMT+0200) Alex Schuster composed:

> schrieb Felix Miata:

>>  I've done several new installations lately, openSUSE 11.4 and Kubuntu
>>  11.04, all on i865G video, in each case doing system updates (to e.g.
>>  4.6.4) prior to first X start. All have been very difficult to get into
>>  anything after starting X, including systemsettings to turn off the
>>  broken desktop FX. Phantom windows come and go, including main menu&
>>  panel&  clock settings, How on further i865G installations can I
>>  configure a system globally to disable desktop FX by default? Will it be
>>  the same for 4.7?

> I'm not sure if I understand this right... so the active desktop effects
> mess up everything, and it is even hard to start systemsettings and turn
> them off?

Exactly. I can rarely remember the run command hotkey. If I did, I'd open 
Konsole and try doing things from that, or run command.

> Try Alt+Shift+F12, this toggles the desktop effects. I use it on a PC (not

Another hotkey combination I'll probably forget as fast as I discovered it, 
or at least not remember when I need to.

> You can also edit ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc, and set Enabled=false in the
> [Compositing] section.

That would not be a global fix. That file doesn't even exist on a new install 
until after KDE gets started, and then only for each individual's first login.

On Natty, I looked and found only one kwinrc, hiding in a directory called 
/usr/share/kubuntu-netbook-default-settings/share/config, which makes no 
sense to me, since this is a desktop install, not a netbook. Looking on the 
mirrors in pool/main/k/ I see a kubuntu-netbook-default-settings/, but 
nothing that looks appropriate for a desktop installation.

On 11.4, I couldn't find a kwinrc in any of /etc, /opt, /var or /usr.

Anyway, would the kwinrc file in Natty's /usr rats nest be appropriate for 
global changes? It has no [Compositing] section.
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[kde] disable fx prior to first 4.6 startups

2011-07-07 Thread Felix Miata
I've done several new installations lately, openSUSE 11.4 and Kubuntu 11.04, 
all on i865G video, in each case doing system updates (to e.g. 4.6.4) prior 
to first X start. All have been very difficult to get into anything after 
starting X, including systemsettings to turn off the broken desktop FX. 
Phantom windows come and go, including main menu & panel & clock settings, 
How on further i865G installations can I configure a system globally to 
disable desktop FX by default? Will it be the same for 4.7?
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[kde] Re: Keyboards (was: Anyone know how...)

2011-07-04 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/07/05 01:07 (GMT) Duncan composed:

> I know, but it's a usage issue with pan (my client).

I've never used any email program that doesn't refuse to automatically wrap a 
long, whitespace-free line beginning with the character ">". Did you try 
doing nothing more than prepending > directly to http://? If so and failed 
and I wanted to keep using it, I'd be all over its devs about inability to 
not wrap long URLs. It's so unnecessary.
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[kde] Re: Keyboards (was: Anyone know how...)

2011-07-04 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/07/05 00:06 (GMT) Duncan composed:

> A better picture of the keyboard (black, as I have, without the wrist-
> rest, which I don't use either).

> http://compare.ebay.com/like/150611216303?
> var=lv<yp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&_lwgsi=y

> WORKSFORME! =:^)

Not me. The most important part isn't there. 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ErgoLogicFlexProKB2652.jpg shows my 
idea of ergonomic, but not their center portions, as I use them fully dropped 
like a normal flat KB. http://stanis.net/uvpub/omnikey102.html sums up what 
counts for me.

Wrapping is not a "long" line necessity, as the following (I expect) shows.
>http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Cordless-Desktop-Keyboard-Wheel/dp/B1RMDH
>http://compare.ebay.com/like/150611216303?var=lv<yp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&_lwgsi=y
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[kde] Re: Keyboards (was: Anyone know how...)

2011-07-04 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/07/04 18:05 (GMT) Duncan composed:

> Felix Miata posted on Mon, 04 Jul 2011 02:55:12 -0400 as excerpted:

>>  You mean a full KDE4 install?

> Yes.  Being a kde list, and kde3 being officially unsupported (except by
> the trinity project, but that's a separate project that presumably has
> its own lists), kde4 would be the assumption.

Fine, but out of support doesn't make KDE3 into something other than KDE. 
Kaffeine3 in OP was intended to refer to whatever Kaffeine version(s) shipped 
in KDE3.

>>  So, I'm stuck for the moment using a
>>  junk keyboard, and thus stifled from making a whole lot of progress.

> FWIW, you might consider my keyboard junk, but it does sort of fit the
> "insanely priced" category, tho it's somewhat commodity still, and it
> anyway works well for me.

"Insanely priced" refers to 
http://www.ergonomicsmadeeasy.com/store/specialty/product/avant-stellar/ 
which is the only location I know of offering something resembling the best 
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[kde] Re: Anyone know how to figure out what packages Kaffeine3 really depends on?

2011-07-03 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/07/04 05:41 (GMT) Duncan composed:

> kaffeine for kde4 (that is, probably 1.1 or 1.2.something, depending on
> how close to upstream they stick for updates between OpenSuSE releases),
> would be FAR less dependencies, presuming you already have kde4 installed
> as I expect you do or you'd be unlikely to be posting hereo be so.

>>  Dragonplayer built into what? I never hear of it before.

>>  zypper in dragonplayer wanted to install 36 packages.
>
> Dragonplayer is the media-player that comes with a full kde install.

You mean a full KDE4 install?

This is one of many multiboot systems in the building, but rebuilt 
specifically for use with my TV by minimally installing WinXP, oS 11.4 & oS 
12.1. I started by refurbing a 6 year old Dell compact with 3.0GHz P4HT, then 
doing the minimal installs to poke for possible hardware problems. I still 
have yet to configure any users, wanting to first make sure everything that 
needs to work works. Consequently, I've installed virtually no software as 
yet on XP in order to prevent need to first configure user data on E:. The 
last system I used for the TV was just a bit short on video capability for 
smooth video.

The first obstacle was lack of keyboard & mouse ports. There hasn't been a 
decent keyboard built in over two decades that wasn't insanely priced. I 
tried installing a PS/2 port PCI card, but it turns out those things are not 
real PS/2 ports, that is, they can't get you through a boot loader menu or 
into the PC BIOS. So, I'm stuck for the moment using a junk keyboard, and 
thus stifled from making a whole lot of progress.

Anyway, after the minimal installs, I did Windows updates first to give the 
hardware some more runtime. Then I set installRecommends=no in zypper.conf, 
and started adding individual packages I knew I would use. So far this 
excludes 100% of KDE4, and includes only as much of KDE3 as I know I'll use 
for a home theater TV. Space so far used on 11.4 / is a mere 2.3G, on 12.1 / 
2.0G, WinXP D: (OS/software drive) 2.4G.

Now that I've seen SMPlayer play I can see the video hardware (i945G) seems 
adequate.

http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/smplayer/index.php?title=Main_Page 
doesn't seem to have a pointer to any mailing list. Do you know if there is one?
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[kde] Re: Anyone know how to figure out what packages Kaffeine3 really depends on?

2011-07-03 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/07/04 03:15 (GMT) Duncan composed:

> Felix Miata posted:

>>  On openSUSE 11.4 I want Kaffeine to be able to directly play isos made
>>  from DVDs. Is this possible? If so, what does it take? I tried to have
>>  YaST2 install it, but it wants to install kitchen sinks, bathtubs and
>>  garages as well, and I don't want to be constantly updating lebenty
>>  bazillion Packman things never used, nor wasting disk space on them.

>>  I have win32codecs, libavcodecs, libxine1-codecs, libdvdcss2&
>>  mpeg2demux&
>>  its 3 *boost* deps installed. The fault window is currently complaining
>>  about missing demux, but also saying found input plugin without naming
>>  whatever it is.

> Kaffeine3?  Where'd you get that version number?  The latest both on the
> site (kaffeine.kde.org) and here on gentoo is 1.2.2 (released 2011.04.17,
> 1.2.0 was 2011.04.04).

> Or do you mean the last kde3-based release, 0.8.8 (released 2009.05.23)?

http://packman.iu-bremen.de/suse/11.4/Multimedia/i586/kde3-kaffeine-0.8.8-50.pm.50.31.i586.rpm

> I gave up on kaffeine when it was still beta for kde4...
>
> I needed a decent non-kde3-based media player as I was removing kde3 from
> my system, and kaffeine clearly wasn't it, at that point, as it was
> basically the same as the low-feature built-in dragonplayer, etc.

Dragonplayer built into what? I never hear of it before.

zypper in dragonplayer wanted to install 36 packages.

> So I switched to the mplayer- and qt4-based smplayer, which I've been
> quite happy with BTW and which if anything, has even MORE features than
> kaffeine for kde3 did.  I was just playing DVDs straight off the ISO
> image (I have them saved to my computer) to test some graphics config
> changes the other day, and I've played the physical DVDs themselves
> before as well, tho not nearly as recently.

I was only trying Kaffeine because I thought a KDE native would most likely 
be next best thing to VLC.

zypper in smplayer only wanted to install 13 packages, so I removed 
everything installed explicitly for kaffeine, then installed smplayer. It 
seems good as VLC ever was. Thanks!

2011-07-03 20:25:50|install|libdvdcss2|1.2.10-2.pm.3.1|i586|Libdvdcss
2011-07-03 20:27:19|install|kde3-kaffeine|0.8.8-51.1|i586|KDE3
2011-07-03 20:27:23|install|kde3-kaffeine-lang|0.8.8-51.1|noarch||KDE3
2011-07-03 20:30:29|install|w32codec-all|20100303-0.pm.1.1|i586|Packman
2011-07-03 20:32:34|install|libavcodec53|0.8-0.pm.1.1|i586||Packman
2011-07-03 20:32:36|install|libxine1-codecs|1.1.19-2.pm.46.6|i586|Packman
2011-07-03 20:53:45|install|boost-license1_44_0|1.44.0-5.1|noarch||OSS
2011-07-03 20:53:46|install|libboost_system1_44_0|1.44.0-5.1|i586||OSS
2011-07-03 20:53:46|install|libboost_filesystem1_44_0|1.44.0-5.1|i586||OSS
2011-07-03 20:53:48|install|mpeg2demux|1.0.2-1.pm.8.3|i586|Packman
2011-07-03 23:21:28|remove |libxine1-codecs|1.1.19-2.pm.46.6|i586
2011-07-03 23:21:28|remove |mpeg2demux|1.0.2-1.pm.8.3|i586
2011-07-03 23:21:28|remove |libavcodec53|0.8-0.pm.1.1|i586
2011-07-03 23:21:29|remove |libboost_filesystem1_44_0|1.44.0-5.1|i586|
2011-07-03 23:21:29|remove |libboost_system1_44_0|1.44.0-5.1|i586
2011-07-03 23:21:29|remove |boost-license1_44_0|1.44.0-5.1|noarch
2011-07-03 23:21:29|remove |kde3-kaffeine-lang|0.8.8-51.1|noarch
2011-07-03 23:21:29|remove |kde3-kaffeine|0.8.8-51.1|i586|
2011-07-03 23:27:30|install|libvdpau1|0.4.1-10.6|i586||OSS
2011-07-03 23:27:30|install|liblzo2-2|2.04-14.1|i586||OSS
2011-07-03 23:27:30|install|libesd0|0.2.41-12.1|i586||OSS
2011-07-03 23:27:30|install|libdv4|1.0.0-155.1|i586||OSS
2011-07-03 23:27:31|install|libdirac_decoder0|1.0.2-12.1|i586||OSS
2011-07-03 23:27:31|install|libcrystalhd3|3.6.4-4.1|i586||OSS
2011-07-03 23:27:31|install|giflib|4.1.6-20.1|i586||OSS
2011-07-03 23:27:31|install|libfaac0|1.28-3.pm.6.1|i586||Packman
2011-07-03 23:27:31|install|libbs2b0|3.1.0-1.pm.4.1|i586||Packman
2011-07-03 23:27:31|install|libmpg123-0|1.13.3-1.pm.1.1|i586||Packman
2011-07-03 23:27:31|install|libbluray0|0+20110223-0.pm.2.1|i586||Packman
2011-07-03 23:27:35|install|MPlayer|1.0rc4_r33574-1.pm.1.3|i586||Packman
2011-07-03 23:27:36|install|smplayer|0.6.9+r3599-1.pm.3.1|i586|Packman
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[kde] Anyone know how to figure out what packages Kaffeine3 really depends on?

2011-07-03 Thread Felix Miata
On openSUSE 11.4 I want Kaffeine to be able to directly play isos made from 
DVDs. Is this possible? If so, what does it take? I tried to have YaST2 
install it, but it wants to install kitchen sinks, bathtubs and garages as 
well, and I don't want to be constantly updating lebenty bazillion Packman 
things never used, nor wasting disk space on them.

I have win32codecs, libavcodecs, libxine1-codecs, libdvdcss2 & mpeg2demux & 
its 3 *boost* deps installed. The fault window is currently complaining about 
missing demux, but also saying found input plugin without naming whatever it is.
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[kde] Re: Adding Fonts

2011-06-30 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/06/30 14:35 (GMT-0500) Billie Walsh composed:

> KDE 4.6.2
> Kubuntu 11.04

> For some reason my method of adding my collection of True Type and Open
> Type Fonts doesn't work.

> Usually I can just add them to the usr/share/fonts directory someplace
> and they work. They show in applications like Gimp but default to just a
> simple block letter. In fact over half the fonts "installed" by the
> system also don't show.

> I've tried installing them with System Settings>  Font Manager and
> Kfontview but that doesn't work either.

> What am I missing?

I don't know. However, if you only have one user configured that needs those 
fonts, just put them in ~./fonts. Simple.
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[kde] Re: [kde3] 11.4 - KControl is empty

2011-06-01 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/06/01 22:37 (GMT+0400) Ilya composed:

>>  I asked before I knew that a package (kdebase3-SUSE) that apparently should
>>  have been installed as a dependency of what I specifically asked zypper to
>>  install was required but not installed.

>>  >  kdebase3-SUSE includes SUSE-specific settings.

>>  I don't expect SUSE-specific settings to be prerequisite to KDE function.
>>  Should not KControl always be populated with something, regardless whether
>>  any SUSE-specifics are installed or not?

> kcontrol was broken in a SUSE-specific package desktop-data-openSUSE.

Looks to me more like KControl was broken by depending on 
desktop-data-openSUSE, since the latter was not installed and KControl had 
nothing populating the selection pane. Where does the data to populate 
KControl come from in pure, unadulterated KDE3?
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[kde] Re: How do I remove the "new activity" item from the desktop? [OT]

2011-06-01 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/06/01 02:29 (GMT-0700) John Woodhouse composed:

> The important aspects are the edid disables. Also the 2 power save over rides 
> if
> like me you want your monitor to remain on what ever. I use the power switch. 
> I
> also wish there was a desktop switch to enable and disable system power save
> modes at will. As things stand I have to install noacpi or it drives me up the
> wall.

'Option "DPMS" "off"' isn't good enough for you?

> One other aspect is that xorg.conf can disappear and be replaced by separate
> files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ . No signs of this happening but it would 
> appear
> that it's just a case of moving the xorg.conf sections into individual files. 
> A
> meaningless change really as is often the case.

Maybe https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32430 is what you're 
thinking of? Individual files was implemented to facilitate minor 
customizations that are difficult for individual users to figure out how to 
make in xorg.conf, which requires a certain system of serverlayout, 
identifiers, screen(s) & device(s) to get to actually work. Using the 
separate files one can implement as little as one line to implement desired 
customization.
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[kde] Re: How do I remove the "new activity" item from the desktop? [OT]

2011-05-31 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/05/31 11:05 (GMT-0700) John Woodhouse composed:

> I didn't match the dpi of the monitor to X settings. I generated xorg.conf 
> file
> mode lines for my monitor using cvt in the console. Initially I used display
> size for X scaling but later changed to dpi as this looked to give more 
> options
> for messing about later. 100dpi came about as it seemed to be one of 2 values 
> X
> prefers.

That pair of preferences dates back to the days of bitmap fonts, infrequently 
used on any modern computer, and very rarely seen in web pages. Scalable 
fonts are tuned to look best at 72 and/or 96 DPI and the most common sizes 
used at those pixel densities. That tuning usually means a DPI multiple of at 
least four is required for fonts to scale decently from one step to the next, 
but fonts usually work much better with a density multiple of 12 or 16, and 
best at a multiple of 24. IOW, 72, 96, 120, 144, 168 & 192 are usually better 
than 84, 108, 132 & 156, which in turn are better than 86, 90, 111, 131, 143 
& other random densities that match LCD device densities.

>  My monitor is more like 90. Many monitors use edid so don't need an
> xorg.conf file but people sometimes over ride edid anyway.

Override is commonly necessary for those with imperfect vision and/or above 
average device density. Some X implementations are so closely tied to EDID 
that escape therefrom can be difficult if not impossible, e.g. 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=692293
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[kde] Re: How do I remove the "new activity" item from the desktop? [OT]

2011-05-31 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/05/31 03:49 (GMT-0700) John Woodhouse composed:

> I run a 22ins monitor at  1680x1050 that's been with me for many years. About 
> 9
> I think. Now hd tv's are available I am wondering about moving in that 
> direction
> but there really isn't much of a gain in resolution so it's a question of just
> how big one can go before the dot size/spacing becomes a problem. I run the
> monitor at 100dpi which produces nice tight clear text. that is a little small
> for ageing eyes without some aid. At some point I intend to play with this 
> and x
> scaling to see just how large I can go before things get objectionable.

It's not necessary for your DTE's DPI to match your display's DPI. Forcing 
DPI is a practical way to scale the whole desktop to meet personal needs. 
Usually setting DisplaySize in xorg.conf will get the job done at the outset, 
though proprietary NVidia users can set DPI directly. Xrandr can do it, but 
using it is actually less straightforward, particularly figuring out your 
distro's preferred place to put startup xrandr commands.

DPI multiples of 12 can produce more pleasing results than exact display 
device matches or arbitrary values. http://fm.no-ip.com/Share/DisplaySize 
provides settings for reaching 12 multiples. I usually force 120 or 144 and 
view from a greater than average distance.
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[kde] Re: How do I remove the "new activity" item from the desktop?

2011-05-30 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/05/30 03:51 (GMT-0700) John Woodhouse composed:

> Frankly what it boils down to is I can't see the point in having a
> largely empty screen. Many many others can't either.

I can't see the point of having any icons on the desktop. It's rare that I 
actually see more than a tiny fraction of my desktop, over which virtually 
always lie open app windows. Without the panel and app starter, few apps 
would ever manage to get opened here. I've yet to start a "new activity", 
whatever that's supposed to be. I open apps exclusively from the quick 
launcher items on the panel, or from the (traditional) app starter.
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[kde] Re: How do I restart KDM?

2011-02-18 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/02/18 17:52 (GMT) Duncan composed:

> Felix Miata posted on Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:55:36 -0500 as excerpted:

>>  how hard is it to click once on krandrtray, then to select the desired
>>  resolution directly?

> Pretty hard when one doesn't run krandrtray by default, so one has to
> start it first...

First meaning once per user. Once started, the user must take explicit 
affirmative action to get it out of the tray. It's been years since I've used 
hotkey resolution switching other than to test if it's available, not only 
because I discovered krandrtray, but more importantly, when I want a 
different resolution, I typically find it preferable to start an entirely 
different session on :1 with a forced DPI suitable for that resolution. Try 
that on windoz!!!
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[kde] Re: How do I restart KDM?

2011-02-18 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/02/18 17:18 (GMT+0100) Geoffray Levasseur composed:

> To restart the deamon (so the parent process):
> * on Debian and *Ubuntu: /etc/init.d/kdm restart
> * on OpenSuse and Gentoo: /etc/init.d/xdm restart

> Don't know for other distro.

All my many openSUSEs it's '/etc/init.d/kdm restart', or 'rckdm restart' for 
short. IIRC, on Mandriva (and maybe Fedora before sysvinit was obsoleted) it 
could alternatively be 'service kdm restart'.

Since I do so much cross-distro testing, and what works or not varies, and I 
usually have at least one vc logged in already, as long as it's not a Debian 
I'm running, I usually goto a vc and 'init 3; init 5' instead of needing to 
remember what works or not.
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[kde] Re: How do I restart KDM?

2011-02-18 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/02/18 16:00 (GMT) Duncan composed:

> I still miss the simple C-A-KB+/KB- resolution switching from
> before RandR!

Not everyone need miss this. It's one of the prices one pays for "upgrading" 
hardware before the old croaks. It still works on MGA, and presumably on R128 
(Rage Mobility) and other pre-xrandr drivers. Still, now hard is it to click 
once on krandrtray, then to select the desired resolution directly? The old 
way requires cycling through in order to eventually reach the choice.
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[kde] Re: How to set the KDE path?

2011-02-01 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/02/01 17:34 (GMT+0200) Dotan Cohen composed:

> It is rather frustrating that the Plasma Krunner (Alt-F2) does not
> follow the path configured in $HOME/.profile. If the user has a
> wrapper function for /usr/bin/firefox in $HOME/.bin/firefox and
> $HOME/.bin starts the path, Konsole will open the firefox wrapper but
> Krunner will open /usr/bin/firefox.

> The lead Plasma developer mentions that the user can configure the KDE
> path by placing an executable in ~/.xinitrc
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=263883

> However, it "doesn't work". Googling the issue I see lots of people
> asking and the answer is usually to configure the path in
> .bash_profile or .profile. That does not work in KDE 4.x, I assume
> that it worked in 3.x by the age of those posts.
>
> So, what is the correct syntax for configuring the KDE path in
> ~/.xinitrc? Thanks!

Start with http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2011-01/msg00812.html maybe? 
What I've seen of the responses on your quest to solve this disgusts me.

What I do with alien installs is put them in /usr/local/, then start them 
using fullpath of the executable, putting it in a script in default $PATH if 
necessary to ease load on user memory.
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[kde] Re: Problems with Screen Resolution

2011-01-31 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/01/31 16:10 (GMT) Wilson, Richard composed:

> First, my apologies, this is only partially a KDE issue, but I am hopeful 
> that one of you can help me with this.

x...@freedesktop.org or the fedora users list would be better for follow up 
as the root of your problem has nothing to do with KDE.

> I have just upgraded my workstation from Fedora 12 to Fedora 14 and am now 
> running KDE 4.5.5-1.

> My Flat Panel monitor supports a native mode of 1280x1024 and this is what I 
> have historically run it at under previous versions of Fedora.  When I 
> upgraded to Fedora 12, I had similar problems getting the resolution to 
> 1280x1024, I had to use system-config-display and create an xorg.conf file 
> and add nomodeset to my kernel boot line in grub to get it to work.

> Fedora 14 has deprecated system-config-display; if I add nomodeset to the 
> kernel line, I don't get a login screen and everything I've tried so far has 
> not worked -- at least I have 1024x768 resolution -- with Fedora 12 it 
> defaulted to 800x600.

There is no more nomodeset option for Intel video users.

> Section "ServerLayout"
> Section "Files"
> Section "InputDevice"

Delete all above sections. They have nothing to do with your problem. 
Automatic works for them for most people.

> Section "Module"
>   Load  "record"
>   Load  "glx"
>   Load  "dri2"
>   Load  "dri"
>   Load  "extmod"
>   Load  "dbe"
> EndSection

The above section is probably no longer necessary. Depends on which chip you 
have maybe.

> Section "Monitor"
>   Identifier  "Monitor0"
>   VendorName  "Compaq"
>   ModelName   "LCD Panel 1280x1024"
>   HorizSync   31.5 - 64.0
>   VertRefresh 56.0 - 65.0
>   Option  "dpms"
> EndSection

Try adding to above section 'Option "PreferredMode" "1280x1024"

> Section "Device"
>  ### Available Driver options are:-
>  ### Values:: integer,: float,: "True"/"False",
>  ###: "String",: "  Hz/kHz/MHz",
>  ###: "%"
>  ### [arg]: arg optional
>  #Option "NoAccel"# []
>  #Option "SWcursor"   # []
>  #Option "ColorKey"   #
>  #Option "CacheLines" #
>  #Option "Dac6Bit"# []
>  #Option "DRI"# []
>  #Option "NoDDC"  # []
>  #Option "ShowCache"  # []
>  #Option "XvMCSurfaces"   #
>  #Option "PageFlip"   # []
>   Identifier  "Videocard0"
>   Driver  "intel"
>   BusID   "PCI:0:2:0"
> EndSection

You can see most of those are commented away. Uncommenting NoDDC might have 
an impact. BusID is probably not needed.

Be sure on follow up to tell exactly which Intel chip is reported by lspci.

> Section "Screen"

AFAICT, this whole section is obsolete for Intel chips, but may be useful for 
some older chips like MGA.

>   Identifier "Screen0"
>   Device "Videoard0"
>   Monitor"Monitor0"
>   DefaultDepth24
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Viewport   0 0
>   Depth 1
>   Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Viewport   0 0
>   Depth 4
>   Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Viewport   0 0
>   Depth 8
>   Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Viewport   0 0
>   Depth 15
>   Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Viewport   0 0
>   Depth 16
>   Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
>   EndSubSection
>   SubSection "Display"
>  

[kde] Re: don't want 4.5.95 panel sorted

2011-01-21 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/01/22 01:55 (GMT+0200) Nikos Chantziaras composed:

> Felix Miata wrote:

>>  but I can never remember what settings gizmo to open to permit me to turn it
>>  off. Right clicking the panel I see nothing. Right clicking application
>>  launcher shows nothing apparent. Nothing in systemsettings looks applicable.
>>  Where is it? This was nothing but simple to get rid of in KDE3. :-(

> Which panel?  The task manager?  Right click on it and select "Task
> Manager Settings".  There's a "Grouping and Sorting" section.

The panel at the bottom of the screen that KDE3 called Kicker.

Where is the "task manager"?
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[kde] don't want 4.5.95 panel sorted

2011-01-21 Thread Felix Miata
but I can never remember what settings gizmo to open to permit me to turn it 
off. Right clicking the panel I see nothing. Right clicking application 
launcher shows nothing apparent. Nothing in systemsettings looks applicable. 
Where is it? This was nothing but simple to get rid of in KDE3. :-(
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[kde] printer not accepting jobs

2011-01-21 Thread Felix Miata
[Canon MF4370dn directly on ethernet and using proprietary Canon v2.1 
CNCUPSMF-4390ZK.ppd driver.]

This results from attempting to print an image from gwenview-1.4.2-134.3 on 
openSUSE 11.2 (and gwenview-4.5.95-1.1 on 11.4). That results from a printer 
data error when the system tries to send the job to the printer. After 
deleting the job in KJobViewer and cycling the printer's power, it remains 
disabled. If I try to go into KMenu to use the Cups menu selection, it never 
opens, and I have to log out and back in again to make the bouncing cursor 
program startup indicator go away. In KJobViewer, I can find no way to make 
the printer accept jobs again. I'm forced to go into YaST2 and edit the 
printer's settings, an extremely lengthy process, in order to get jobs 
accepted again. Once that's done, printing a test page from YaST2 works fine, 
and so does printing the same image from Kwickshow.

1-How do I reenable printer accepting jobs without starting all over in YaST2?

2-What can be done to get GwenView to print in 11.2/KDE3?
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[kde] xrandr commands in xinitrc ignored by KDM; kdmrc location

2011-01-03 Thread Felix Miata
1: Desktop obeys xrandr commands in xinitrc, but KDM does not. Is there a 
better place to put xrandr commands so that KDM will respect them. Is a bug 
needed to be filed to get KDM to respect xrandr commands that the DTE 
respects? It seems rather inconsistent that one does and the other doesn't as 
now. :-(

2: is the native KDE location of the working kdmrc in /usr*, or is that an 
openSUSE thing? If /usr*, why? /etc was made for config files. Config files 
don't belong lost in /usr*, where they're both harder to find and harder to 
backup.
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