[kde] two problems KDE 4.8
Hi . I am having a couple of problems that are becoming a PITA 1 . Kmail will randomly just bomb out bang gone plus the mailing list filters miss so much mail i have to filter by hand . 2 . I can not setup the ntp server or country settings it is stuck on Gurnseyi can change it but it asks for authentication which i supply then moans about unable to contact ntp server ( it is contactable and has a fairly good response time ) . if you need more info what and where from Thanks pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.2.5-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Feb 7 08:34:36 CET 2012 x86_64 AMD Phenom(tm) 9600B Quad-Core Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] two problems KDE 4.8
On Tuesday 14 Feb 2012 14:00:26 Anne Wilson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 14/02/12 12:40, Duncan wrote: > > P Nikolic posted on Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:10:00 + as excerpted: > >> I am having a couple of problems that are becoming a PITA > > > > The by-point replies below probably aren't what you wanted to read, > > but they're how I deal with it. Other than simply pointing them > > out as options, I'm mainly just acknowledging your post, so it > > doesn't go entirely unreplied if someone else doesn't reply with > > solutions hopefully closer to your present setup. > > > >> 1 . Kmail will randomly just bomb out bang gone plus the > >> mailing list filters miss so much mail i have to filter by hand > >> . > > > > FWIW, after trying akonadified kmail, I decided the kmail devs were > > > > taking it, and by extension all of kdepim in a direction opposite > > > > the one I was headed. I don't believe the > > akonadified/database-backed version will be as stable as old kmail > > was, at least for me, for several releases, say 4.10 or so, and I > > considered email too vital to be causing me stability and > > dependability headaches for over a year. > > > > So I switched to claws-mail, which was right for me. The > > conversion process wasn't entirely without issue, but then again, > > neither was the upgrade to akonadified kmail. Other people may be > > more comfortable with thunderbird or evolution, but they weren't > > right for me either, while claws-mail ended up being a better match > > for me than the pre-akonadified kmail was. > > > > So choose what you like, including staying with kmail if you > > continue to be comfortable with it, but if you had thought about > > switching, now's probably the time to do it, because as I said, I > > don't expect kmail to be really stable again for another year, to > > 4.10 or so, based on recent kde stabilization time history. > > Do whatever you can to live with it for just a little longer, or > choose a temporary replacement. Like many others, I had to. The > news, though, is that the kdepim developers had a sprint this weekend > when they found and fixed many issues, so we should be able to expect > a serious improvement in an update very soon. > > Anne > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAk86aPEACgkQj93fyh4cnBfOMACghrsmrJeeZJMB3/ZwC225ChKR > 6MMAn3cV+iZK+Jl3vTEuR5DTJI3U6Hen > =fEpE > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > ___ > This message is from the kde mailing list. > Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. > Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. > More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html. Hope so . I have tried Claws cant get on with it so .. lifes not nice with Kmail doing a runner all the time and i cant get on with thunderbird eitherho humm Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.2.5-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Feb 7 08:34:36 CET 2012 x86_64 AMD Phenom(tm) 9600B Quad-Core Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
[kde] error 4 in libsoprano.so.4.3.0
Hi . I am having a lot of reports of segfaults with nepomukservices Feb 12 08:24:16 7-of-9 kernel: [233271.349534] nepomukservices[7638]: segfault at 1 ip 7fa8ce06deef sp 7fa8bca876b0 error 4 in libsoprano.so.4.3.0[7fa8ce029000+f9000] I have line after line of these reports in the message log and i see in a google search this is not new kde 4.4 i am on KDE 4.8 . Is this going to be fixed as it seems to cause problems at times or is this getting classed as a not kde problem Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.2.5-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Feb 7 08:34:36 CET 2012 x86_64 AMD Phenom(tm) 9600B Quad-Core Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] error 4 in libsoprano.so.4.3.0
On Thursday 16 Feb 2012 00:29:31 Kevin Krammer wrote: > On Wednesday, 2012-02-15, P Nikolic wrote: > > Hi . > > > > > > I am having a lot of reports of segfaults with nepomukservices > > > > > > Feb 12 08:24:16 7-of-9 kernel: [233271.349534] nepomukservices[7638]: > > segfault at 1 ip 7fa8ce06deef sp 7fa8bca876b0 error 4 in > > libsoprano.so.4.3.0[7fa8ce029000+f9000] > > Hmm, this doesn't tell a lot. Do you per chance have a backtrace of the > crash? > > Cheers, > Kevin Hi Kevin No all i have is the various logs i dont have any of the debugging installed But the message.log is full of that stuff . i will have to install the debugging stuff i spose have to check space first .. Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.2.5-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Feb 7 08:34:36 CET 2012 x86_64 AMD Phenom(tm) 9600B Quad-Core Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] KAddressbook Spawning Tags
On Sat, 19 May 2012 09:54:13 + (UTC) Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > Lex Middelberg posted on Sat, 19 May 2012 09:53:01 +0200 as excerpted: > > > Greetings. > > > > I am using a stock standard Kubuntu set-up (precise). My > > KAddressbook hold about 800 contacts. The problem is that it is > > spawning hundreds and hundreds of empty tags and tags in this > > format: > > > > nemopuk:/res/ (some alphanumeric string) > > > > To add a tag to a new contact takes 20 seconds for the dialog to > > open and to delete just one of them takes at least 15 seconds. > > > > Now I also find that although I delete a tag assigned to a contact, > > that contact still shows up in searches using the previously > > assigned tag althoug nothing shows on the screen. That is annoying > > at the very least. > > > > I can't work like this. Is there perhaps a way to delete all the > > duplicate tags in one go? > > FWIW, database-related "malfunctionality" such as this is one reason > I decided to dump kmail and the rest of kdepim entirely, here. > Switching my mail archive, address book, and mail filters over to > claws-mail wasn't easy, but it was worth it, for sure, and the worst > I get in a crash is a few read messages showing up as unread, again, > if it hadn't yet saved that status. YMMV, but claws-mail was a > better solution for me anyway, and with kde's color scheme exported > to gtk apps, I've been very happy with the results. Not as > integrated with kde, but I'll take actually working over integrated, > any day. > +1 on that Moved to claws mail here and unless Kmail and friends get fixed and working fully i will not be going back , Claws mail just works and the spam filtering is working fine as well as does threading and mailing lists . Pete -- Linux 7-of-9 3.3.6-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun May 13 10:52:32 CEST 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
[kde] Screen saver not working
Hi .. I can not get the screen saver to work automatically I am running KDE 4.8.3 (4.8.3) Arch Linux x86_64 kernel 3.3.7 It had been working until the update to 4.8.3 i can set it up test it all ok but will not start automatically . I have most of the power control stuff turned off as it is a desktop machine that runs 24/7 i also have dmps set to off as i have for the last gawd knows how many years never have used dmps . Pete .. -- Linux 7-of-9 3.3.7-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue May 22 00:26:26 CEST 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] Screen saver not working
On Mon, 28 May 2012 11:43:44 +0530 "dE ." wrote: > You should check the running services in systemsettings. > > All running except power management that i do not need and has been disabled for ever but the screensaver has always worked perfectly .. Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.3.7-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue May 22 00:26:26 CEST 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] Screen saver not working
On Tue, 29 May 2012 15:46:16 +0530 "dE ." wrote: > On 05/28/12 12:13, P .NIKOLIC wrote: > > On Mon, 28 May 2012 11:43:44 +0530 > > "dE ." wrote: > > > >> You should check the running services in systemsettings. > >> > >> > > All running except power management that i do not need and has been > > disabled for ever but the screensaver has always worked > > perfectly .. > > > > Pete . > > > > Maybe you should turn it on and try. Maybe things changed recently. > ___ > This message is from the kde mailing list. > Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. > Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. > More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html. hope not there is no way at all that screen saver is related in any way shape of form to power management that would be an absolute massive backwards step Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.3.7-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue May 22 00:26:26 CEST 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
[kde] drive mount problems only in kde
Hi list Well this is going to be a corker i am running as in the sig block arch Linux x86_64 KDE 4.9.1 . When i boot the system and leave KDM to stat kde x ect and log into KDE i get both / and /home mounted ro BUT If i do not log into KDE but come out to a tty log in as root and check then both are mounted correctly mounted rw my question is What in KDE 4.9.1 is faffing around and changing the mount status and how do i stop it Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.5.4-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Sep 15 08:12:04 CEST 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] drive mount problems only in kde
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:20:58 +0530 "dE ." wrote: > You mean you cant write to the rw mounted FS via dolphin? > > Hi .. No once KDE is started i loose all ability to write to either drive most times if i reboot several times i can get rw on /home but it takes effort but if no KDM KDE then no problem all drives are rw In KDE it can be Dolphin Konq MC xterm kterm anything no rw on / and /home Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.5.4-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Sep 15 08:12:04 CEST 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] drive mount problems only in kde
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 01:24:44 + (UTC) Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > P .NIKOLIC posted on Sat, 22 Sep 2012 09:39:53 +0100 as excerpted: > > > Hi list > > > > > > Well this is going to be a corker i am running as in the sig block > > arch Linux x86_64 KDE 4.9.1 . > > > > When i boot the system and leave KDM to stat kde x ect and log > > into KDE i get both / and /home mounted ro BUT > > I'm going to assume that was supposed to be "leave KDM to _start_ > kde, X, _etc_". Because there is a (kernel) "stat" function related > to files, but the context in which you used the term doesn't seem to > make sense, so I'm left to guess what you really meant. And "ect"... > makes no sense either, "etc" is my best guess and fits the > (reconstructed) context. > > So I'm assuming the sentence should read: > > When I boot the system and leave kdm to _start_ kde, X, etc., and log > into kde, I get both / and /home mounted ro... BUT > > > If i do not log into KDE but come out to a tty log in as root and > > check then both are mounted correctly mounted rw my question is > > What in KDE 4.9.1 is faffing around and changing the mount status > > and how do i stop it > > Interesting question. As Harry says, it's likely an Arch-specific > problem, which suggests taking it to the arch forums/lists/whatever. > However, as a gentooer who runs pre-release git kernels enough to be > a bit more familiar with Linux kernel internals and discussions (thus > the observations about "stat" above, tho that's filesystem level, so > pretty much any userspace program that deals with files deals with > stat too) than many, I can make some general observations that might > explain some of it, tho you'll likely still have to go to the arch > forums/lists to get help with a fix, since a fix would be in > Arch-specific configuration. > > 1) The rootfs (/) is traditionally originally mounted ro/read-only, > until a fsck can be done to ensure the filesystem is in order, before > remounting it rw/read-write. > > If the system crashed or the filesystem otherwise didn't complete a > clean shutdown, the fsck fixes the problem before writes have a > chance to make it worse. But unlike other filesystems, fsck and the > filesystem-specific fsck that it in turn launches, normally reside on > rootfs, so it must be mounted read-only in ordered to access them, > while other filesystems can remain entirely unmounted until after > their fscks. > > 2) That rootfs remains ro, then, could imply that the initscripts > running the fsck and subsequent remount rw are never invoked. That > would imply that the initscripts that fsck and mount other > filesystems aren't run either, altho in a traditional config that > would mean they aren't mounted at all, while you said /home is > mounted, but ro. But for all I know arch handles things a bit > differently and mounts /home ro as well. > > > If that's the problem, then the solution is a "simple" one. However > kdm is being invoked, ensure that it depends on (or simply comes > after, depending on your init system, gentoo's openrc handles depends > and parallel initscript launching, as does systemd, but the > traditional sysvinit didn't, and IDR whether upstart does or not, > those that don't, simply depend on serialized and specified-order > launching) the standard initscripts, which should then fsck and > (re)mount all mount-at-boot filesystems normally (rw in your case). > > > 3) An alternative and much more serious problem would be that > something's triggering the kernel into switching the mounts to ro. > If the kernel detects a hardware problem (that in itself isn't > serious enough to trigger a full system crash), rather than risk > writing to the wrong place on-disk and (further) corrupting existing > on-disk data, it automatically switches affected filesystems to ro > mode. > > I recently went thru this with an old (purchased in 2003, tho it was > a dual socket Opteron that I had dual-core Opteron 290s in, so > quad-core @2.8GHz, not /too/ bad, but the six-core "Bulldozer" > fx6100, rated 3.3 GHz but OCed slightly to 3.6 GHz, that I replaced > it with, is of course nicer, the best bit was getting off of AGP onto > PCIE!) motherboard that popped a capacitor. When the system was cold > enough (< ~68F/20C, room- temp), the capacitor would still function > well enough to keep the system running. But if it got too warm (it's > Phoenix, AZ, with outside summer temps 45C/113F+ and comfortable ACed > room temps fo
Re: [kde] kmail and kwallet
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 06:29:06 -0500 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 08 February 2013 06:24:38 phanisvara das did opine: > Message additions Copyright Friday 08 February 2013 by Gene Heskett > > > On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 04:40:44 -0500 > > > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > and kwallet in general can be configured to use no password, > > > > which is perfectly safe on a singl user system. if others (who > > > > you don't trust) use the machine, better keep a password. > > > > > > Now that I'd like to do if only the pw requester would steal > > > focus. It doesn't so its 2 extra mouse clicks, 1 to wake up the > > > mouse and one to change focus, to get focus so you can enter your > > > pw. > > > > > > 10.04 LTS 32 bit system here. If you can point me to the right > > > files to edit to get rid of the pw requester, I'd appreciate it. > > > > i'm afraid i don't understand the problem. if you do what i > > suggested, kwallet won't pop up anymore at all, since there's no > > password to ask from you. > > > > to do that open the kwallet manager (or whatever it's called), > > usually it sits in your taskbar somewhere. right-clicking on the (or > > any, if you have more than one) allows you to change the password. > > once you set both to "" (blank), there's no botheration anymore. > > > > as was mentioned in a previous thread some time, the passwords are > > still encrypted on disk, but kwallet won't require a password once > > your user is logged into KDE. > > The problem is, there isn't such a beast on this machine. It is > whatever that after starting kmail, pops up and asks for my user pw, > when I send the first mail after the start. It doesn't grab focus so > you wind up typing blind until the click once to wake the rf mouse up > so you can see the pointer move, find the requester and click once on > it. That is kwallet, but a fairly diligent search fails to find a > configurater for it. > > Cheers, Gene Did you tell Kmail to store the passwords as plain text in the config files always worked for me . I always turned kwallet off it was a PITA i finally gave up on kmail and this akonadia thingClaws Mail is every bit as good which is where i am now . Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.7.5-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jan 28 10:03:32 CET 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] kmail and kwallet
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 06:29:06 -0500 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 08 February 2013 06:24:38 phanisvara das did opine: > Message additions Copyright Friday 08 February 2013 by Gene Heskett > > > On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 04:40:44 -0500 > > > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > and kwallet in general can be configured to use no password, > > > > which is perfectly safe on a singl user system. if others (who > > > > you don't trust) use the machine, better keep a password. > > > > > > Now that I'd like to do if only the pw requester would steal > > > focus. It doesn't so its 2 extra mouse clicks, 1 to wake up the > > > mouse and one to change focus, to get focus so you can enter your > > > pw. > > > > > > 10.04 LTS 32 bit system here. If you can point me to the right > > > files to edit to get rid of the pw requester, I'd appreciate it. > > > > i'm afraid i don't understand the problem. if you do what i > > suggested, kwallet won't pop up anymore at all, since there's no > > password to ask from you. > > > > to do that open the kwallet manager (or whatever it's called), > > usually it sits in your taskbar somewhere. right-clicking on the (or > > any, if you have more than one) allows you to change the password. > > once you set both to "" (blank), there's no botheration anymore. > > > > as was mentioned in a previous thread some time, the passwords are > > still encrypted on disk, but kwallet won't require a password once > > your user is logged into KDE. > > The problem is, there isn't such a beast on this machine. It is > whatever that after starting kmail, pops up and asks for my user pw, > when I send the first mail after the start. It doesn't grab focus so > you wind up typing blind until the click once to wake the rf mouse up > so you can see the pointer move, find the requester and click once on > it. That is kwallet, but a fairly diligent search fails to find a > configurater for it. > > Cheers, Gene Go to System settings password & user account then click on KDE Wallet top of the page untick Enable the KDE wallet subsystemapply problem of KDE wallet solved . Pete -- Linux 7-of-9 3.7.5-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jan 28 10:03:32 CET 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] kmail and kwallet
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 11:26:10 -0500 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 08 February 2013 11:24:05 P .NIKOLIC did opine: > Message additions Copyright Friday 08 February 2013 by Gene Heskett > > > On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 06:29:06 -0500 > > > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Friday 08 February 2013 06:24:38 phanisvara das did opine: > > > Message additions Copyright Friday 08 February 2013 by Gene > > > Heskett > > > > > > > On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 04:40:44 -0500 > > > > > > > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > and kwallet in general can be configured to use no password, > > > > > > which is perfectly safe on a singl user system. if others > > > > > > (who you don't trust) use the machine, better keep a > > > > > > password. > > > > > > > > > > Now that I'd like to do if only the pw requester would steal > > > > > focus. It doesn't so its 2 extra mouse clicks, 1 to wake up > > > > > the mouse and one to change focus, to get focus so you can > > > > > enter your pw. > > > > > > > > > > 10.04 LTS 32 bit system here. If you can point me to the > > > > > right files to edit to get rid of the pw requester, I'd > > > > > appreciate it. > > > > > > > > i'm afraid i don't understand the problem. if you do what i > > > > suggested, kwallet won't pop up anymore at all, since there's no > > > > password to ask from you. > > > > > > > > to do that open the kwallet manager (or whatever it's called), > > > > usually it sits in your taskbar somewhere. right-clicking on > > > > the (or any, if you have more than one) allows you to change > > > > the password. once you set both to "" (blank), there's no > > > > botheration anymore. > > > > > > > > as was mentioned in a previous thread some time, the passwords > > > > are still encrypted on disk, but kwallet won't require a > > > > password once your user is logged into KDE. > > > > > > The problem is, there isn't such a beast on this machine. It is > > > whatever that after starting kmail, pops up and asks for my user > > > pw, when I send the first mail after the start. It doesn't grab > > > focus so you wind up typing blind until the click once to wake > > > the rf mouse up so you can see the pointer move, find the > > > requester and click once on it. That is kwallet, but a fairly > > > diligent search fails to find a configurater for it. > > > > > > Cheers, Gene > > > > Did you tell Kmail to store the passwords as plain text in the > > config files always worked for me . > > > > I always turned kwallet off it was a PITA i finally gave up on > > kmail and this akonadia thingClaws Mail is every bit as good > > which is where i am now . > > > > > > Pete . > > I have considered claws, but there seems to be no way to import the > kmail message corpus. Thats a show stopper as it goes back over 10 > years. Thats in the 10Gb range here. > > Thanks. > > Cheers, Gene Hi Gene i seem to remember there is an import utility for Claws mail but not sure if it could handle that much mail i have about 1.5Gb here that went across ok , Let me dig thru the archive here see if i can spot the utility i used .. Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.7.5-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jan 28 10:03:32 CET 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
[kde] own mails .
Hi to the admins When i send a mail to the list i do not get the mail when i next collect my mail can this be changed as it helps keep the thread flow and i prefere it that way Thanks Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.7.5-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jan 28 10:03:32 CET 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] own mails .
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 18:05:18 +0100 Kevin Krammer wrote: > On Friday, 2013-02-08, P .NIKOLIC wrote: > > Hi to the admins > > > > When i send a mail to the list i do not get the mail when i next > > collect my mail can this be changed as it helps keep the thread flow > > and i prefere it that way > > Getting your own mail back is the normal behavior of this list, so > something else seems to be interfering. > I've witnessed the described behavior (not getting my own postings) > when going through GMail, it seems to consider the distributed > version as a duplicate and removes it. > > Maybe something in your mail chain does the same. > > Cheers, > Kevin Hi Kevin .. Ok strange one this is the only list i get this with always have the Opensuse and Arch linux and various radio list all work fine . I am using Claws Mail under KDE 4.10 i gave up on kmail Ok will have to dig a little deeper ThanksPete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.7.5-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jan 28 10:03:32 CET 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] own mails .
On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 02:42:10 + (UTC) Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > P .NIKOLIC posted on Fri, 08 Feb 2013 16:58:03 + as excerpted: > > > When i send a mail to the list i do not get the mail when i next > > collect my mail can this be changed as it helps keep the thread > > flow and i prefere it that way > > While I use gmane (see below) for this list, I've read that the kde > list account configuration has an option available to NOT send you > your own messages back, only those from others. So it could be worth > checking that just to be sure, if you haven't. > > Meanwhile, as I mentioned, my preferred solution is gmane.org's > list2news service. I prefer that newsgroup interface to actually > having the messages come to my box, so I read and post thru gmane. > It has been awhile, but IIRC I set my kde list subscriptions to > "vacation mode", which means they don't send me mail (since I read > the messages as news via gmane), but I'm still listed as subscribed, > and can post as such. (After verifying my address the first time I > attempt to post to a group/ list, gmane forwards my messages, so I > can post as I would to a newsgroup and gmane forwards to the list.) > Alternatively, most news clients can reply via mail instead of via > news if desired, and I occasionally use that to post directly to a > mailing list, when I suspect gmane's having problems or something. > > FWIW, my news client of choice is the gtk-based pan. Of course > knode, being a kdepim component, is out as it pulls in akonadi, etc, > these days. And claws-mail can do news, but I prefer the pan news > interface. > Morning Duncan . Yes i have unset and reset the own mails option on the list control to see if that fixes it . Ok on gmane i (used ) to be a died in the wood Kmail user but this Akonadia thingy just caused so many problems it had to go , Claws took a bit of getting used to but now i doubt i will change back even got my brothers using it on their WindBlows boxes . Cheers Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.7.5-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jan 28 10:03:32 CET 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] own mails .
On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 07:59:46 + "P .NIKOLIC" wrote: > On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 02:42:10 + (UTC) > Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > > > P .NIKOLIC posted on Fri, 08 Feb 2013 16:58:03 + as excerpted: > > > > > When i send a mail to the list i do not get the mail when i next > > > collect my mail can this be changed as it helps keep the thread > > > flow and i prefere it that way > > > > While I use gmane (see below) for this list, I've read that the kde > > list account configuration has an option available to NOT send you > > your own messages back, only those from others. So it could be > > worth checking that just to be sure, if you haven't. > > > > Meanwhile, as I mentioned, my preferred solution is gmane.org's > > list2news service. I prefer that newsgroup interface to actually > > having the messages come to my box, so I read and post thru gmane. > > It has been awhile, but IIRC I set my kde list subscriptions to > > "vacation mode", which means they don't send me mail (since I read > > the messages as news via gmane), but I'm still listed as subscribed, > > and can post as such. (After verifying my address the first time I > > attempt to post to a group/ list, gmane forwards my messages, so I > > can post as I would to a newsgroup and gmane forwards to the list.) > > Alternatively, most news clients can reply via mail instead of via > > news if desired, and I occasionally use that to post directly to a > > mailing list, when I suspect gmane's having problems or something. > > > > FWIW, my news client of choice is the gtk-based pan. Of course > > knode, being a kdepim component, is out as it pulls in akonadi, etc, > > these days. And claws-mail can do news, but I prefer the pan news > > interface. > > > > Morning Duncan . > > Yes i have unset and reset the own mails option on the list control > to see if that fixes it . > > Ok on gmane i (used ) to be a died in the wood Kmail user but this > Akonadia thingy just caused so many problems it had to go , Claws took > a bit of getting used to but now i doubt i will change back even got > my brothers using it on their WindBlows boxes . > > > Cheers Pete . > > Right replying to myself that seems to have it sorted .. thanks folks .. Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.7.5-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jan 28 10:03:32 CET 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] own mails .
On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 12:07:17 + Anne Wilson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 08/02/13 22:54, P .NIKOLIC wrote: > > On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 18:05:18 +0100 Kevin Krammer > > wrote: > > > >> On Friday, 2013-02-08, P .NIKOLIC wrote: > >>> Hi to the admins > >>> > >>> When i send a mail to the list i do not get the mail when i > >>> next collect my mail can this be changed as it helps keep the > >>> thread flow and i prefere it that way > >> > >> Getting your own mail back is the normal behavior of this list, > >> so something else seems to be interfering. I've witnessed the > >> described behavior (not getting my own postings) when going > >> through GMail, it seems to consider the distributed version as a > >> duplicate and removes it. > >> > >> Maybe something in your mail chain does the same. > >> > >> Cheers, Kevin > > > > Hi Kevin .. > > > > Ok strange one this is the only list i get this with always have > > the Opensuse and Arch linux and various radio list all work fine > > . > > > > I am using Claws Mail under KDE 4.10 i gave up on kmail > > > > Ok will have to dig a little deeper > > > > ThanksPete . > > > > > If you haven't already done so, go to the mailman page (see the footer > for link), sign in, and check your settings. > > Anne > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAlEWO+wACgkQj93fyh4cnBcJugCgiamyTFjbZgI/P8z5816JBw2x > N1AAniupzWNrfeKU05CpTa682YgtQJLG > =Ne07 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > ___ > This message is from the kde mailing list. > Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. > Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. > More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html. Hi Ann . Yes checked there is was set correctly so i unset it saved set it again now seems ok ... time will tell . Thanks Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.7.6-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Feb 4 09:15:13 CET 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] Yet another failed KDE release?
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:44:17 +0530 "dE ." wrote: > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Myriam Schweingruber > wrote: > > > Hi Nikos, > > > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Nikos Chantziaras > > wrote: > > > On 19/03/13 18:58, dE . wrote: > > >> > > >> This release of KDE (4.10.1), is till date the buggiest I've > > >> seen. > > > > > > > > > They've all been, in my case. Not serious crasher bugs, but > > > glitches everywhere. Of the very annoying, hair-pulling sort. I > > > did report all > > of > > > them, but no one cares though. > > > > > > The biggest issue is that with each new release, there's more > > > glitches > > while > > > the old ones are still there. They accumulate over time. There > > > doesn't seem to be any stabilization going on with KDE. It's > > > always a race to > > the > > > next major version. > > > > Again, you are concluding from your experience to the general one. > > Please give me the bug reports so I can counter check. And make sure > > you ALWAYS test with a new user or move the old config files > > elsewhere when you do a major upgrade. > > > > > > Regards, myriam > > > > If everyone's concluding the same way, there's something wrong with > your conclusions. > > Also it doesn't appear to be a to be a coincidence, that only KDE team > members don't complain, and trying to defend the user's argument. The > user is the only one speaking the real thing, and their opinion > should be highest. > > Their argument should never be cut, instead more information should be > asked. > > Why dont you KDE people realized, that there're computer users out > there, who, after realizing the HUGE no. of bugs in one distro (using > KDE as default), will switch to another one without complaining? They > almost the whole of the KDE userbase. > > Even Linus quit cause of too many bugs, and you still don't believe > it. > > Here, I'll give some e.gs -- > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=293766 > > This's a confirmed Debian bug; that commenter didn't know I confirmed > it on Gentoo first, then reported it. > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=279569 > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=298916 > > Just look at this in general -- > > https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?emailreporter1=1&emailcc1=1&list_id=561527&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=grave&bug_severity=major&bug_severity=crash&bug_severity=normal&emailtype1=exact&query_format=advanced&email1=de.techno%40gmail.com I got to chip in here having followed this thread since it's inception . I run Arch Linux one of the earliest of the early adopters of KDE releases. I have found no bugs yet worth creating all this fuss and fluff over unless you are getting petty about Kmail ect and the easy fix there is simply do what most people have done switch to claws mail . It would rather suggest you are doing something strange that no one else seems to want or need in which case and rightly so you are on your own .. Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.8.4-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Mar 20 22:10:25 CET 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] New hope for KMail
On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 06:58:38 -0400 "Renaud (Ron) Olgiati" wrote: > On Saturday 20 Apr 2013 06:29 my mailbox was graced by a message from > Hans Muecke who wrote: > > I dropped KMail and KDE PIM completely > > Which one do you use now ? > 'I'm thinking of going over to Claws) > > Cheers, > > Ron. I can recommend Claws gave up on Kmail long time since the only real loss was the address book in KDE pim but i have worked round that and the address book in Claws is not too bad . Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.8.7-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Apr 13 09:01:47 CEST 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
[kde] KDE apps crash
Hi . I have recently updated KDE to 4.11.1 on Arch Linux. Prior to the update almost everything worked fine now almost every KDE application i attempt to run crashes instantly including the Kcrash handler .. below are just some of the reports . Kpat .. Application: KPatience (kpat), signal: Segmentation fault Using host libthread_db library "/usr/lib/libthread_db.so.1". [KCrash Handler] #5 0x7fffa406da00 in ?? () #6 0x7fbd1356bb95 in KXMLGUIBuilder::createContainer(QWidget*, int, # QDomElement const&, QAction*&) () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #7 0x7fbd1357fb4d in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #8 0x7fbd1357fe09 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #9 0x7fbd135804ba in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #10 0x7fbd1358062b in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #11 0x7fbd13579a79 in KXMLGUIFactory::addClient(KXMLGUIClient*) () from #/usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #12 0x7fbd1356d24d in KXmlGuiWindow::createGUI(QString const&) () from # /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #13 0x7fbd1356d92b in KXmlGuiWindow::setupGUI(QSize const&, # QFlags, QString const&) () from # /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #14 0x00431fa7 in _start () kaffeine Application: Kaffeine (kaffeine), signal: Segmentation fault Using host libthread_db library "/usr/lib/libthread_db.so.1". [KCrash Handler] #5 0x7eff883864d3 in KToolBar::KToolBar(QString const&, QMainWindow*, Qt::ToolBarArea, bool, bool, bool) () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #6 0x0049ea69 in _start () konqueror Application: Konqueror (konqueror), signal: Segmentation fault Using host libthread_db library "/usr/lib/libthread_db.so.1". [KCrash Handler] #5 0x7fffb226de30 in ?? () #6 0x7f341fb28b95 in KXMLGUIBuilder::createContainer(QWidget*, int, QDomElement const&, QAction*&) () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #7 0x7f342185fb0b in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_konqueror.so #8 0x7f341fb3cb4d in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #9 0x7f341fb3ce09 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #10 0x7f341fb3d4ba in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #11 0x7f341fb3d62b in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #12 0x7f341fb36a79 in KXMLGUIFactory::addClient(KXMLGUIClient*) () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #13 0x7f3420db9a62 in KParts::MainWindow::createShellGUI(bool) () from /usr/lib/libkparts.so.4 #14 0x7f3420db9822 in KParts::MainWindow::createGUI(KParts::Part*) () from /usr/lib/libkparts.so.4 #15 0x7f342187306d in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_konqueror.so #16 0x7f34218336a5 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_konqueror.so #17 0x7f3421892dec in kdemain () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_konqueror.so #18 0x7f3421457bc5 in __libc_start_main () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6 #19 0x00400711 in _start () all crash every time you try to start them that is just the few quick ones but it happens to almost everything ( gtk based apps not effected ) Cheers Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.10.10-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Aug 30 11:30:06 CEST 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] KDE apps crash
On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 08:32:55 +0100 P NIKOLIC wrote: > > Hi . > > I have recently updated KDE to 4.11.1 on Arch Linux. > > Prior to the update almost everything worked fine now almost every KDE > application > i attempt to run crashes instantly including the Kcrash handler .. below > are just > some of the reports . > > Kpat .. > Application: KPatience (kpat), signal: Segmentation fault > Using host libthread_db library "/usr/lib/libthread_db.so.1". > [KCrash Handler] > #5 0x7fffa406da00 in ?? () > #6 0x7fbd1356bb95 in KXMLGUIBuilder::createContainer(QWidget*, int, > # QDomElement const&, QAction*&) () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 > #7 0x7fbd1357fb4d in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 > #8 0x7fbd1357fe09 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 > #9 0x7fbd135804ba in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 > #10 0x7fbd1358062b in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 > #11 0x7fbd13579a79 in KXMLGUIFactory::addClient(KXMLGUIClient*) () from > #/usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 > #12 0x7fbd1356d24d in KXmlGuiWindow::createGUI(QString const&) () from > # /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 > #13 0x7fbd1356d92b in KXmlGuiWindow::setupGUI(QSize const&, > # QFlags, QString const&) () from > # /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 > #14 0x00431fa7 in _start () > > kaffeine > > Application: Kaffeine (kaffeine), signal: Segmentation fault > Using host libthread_db library "/usr/lib/libthread_db.so.1". > [KCrash Handler] > #5 0x7eff883864d3 in KToolBar::KToolBar(QString const&, QMainWindow*, > Qt::ToolBarArea, bool, bool, bool) () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #6 > 0x0049ea69 in _start () > > konqueror > Application: Konqueror (konqueror), signal: Segmentation fault > Using host libthread_db library "/usr/lib/libthread_db.so.1". > [KCrash Handler] > #5 0x7fffb226de30 in ?? () > #6 0x7f341fb28b95 in KXMLGUIBuilder::createContainer(QWidget*, int, > QDomElement const&, QAction*&) () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #7 > 0x7f342185fb0b in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_konqueror.so #8 > 0x7f341fb3cb4d in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #9 0x7f341fb3ce09 > in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #10 0x7f341fb3d4ba in ?? () > from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #11 0x7f341fb3d62b in ?? () > from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #12 0x7f341fb36a79 in > KXMLGUIFactory::addClient(KXMLGUIClient*) () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #13 > 0x7f3420db9a62 in KParts::MainWindow::createShellGUI(bool) () > from /usr/lib/libkparts.so.4 #14 0x7f3420db9822 in > KParts::MainWindow::createGUI(KParts::Part*) () from /usr/lib/libkparts.so.4 > #15 > 0x7f342187306d in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_konqueror.so #16 > 0x7f34218336a5 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_konqueror.so #17 > 0x7f3421892dec in kdemain () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_konqueror.so #18 > 0x7f3421457bc5 in __libc_start_main () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6 #19 > 0x00400711 in _start () > > > all crash every time you try to start them that is just the few quick ones > but it > happens to almost everything ( gtk based apps not effected ) > > > Cheers Pete . > Hi and even the System Settings crash Application: System Settings (systemsettings), signal: Segmentation fault Using host libthread_db library "/usr/lib/libthread_db.so.1". [KCrash Handler] #5 0x7fff871504e0 in ?? () #6 0x7fbd23dfab95 in KXMLGUIBuilder::createContainer(QWidget*, int, QDomElement const&, QAction*&) () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #7 0x7fbd23e0eb4d in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #8 0x7fbd23e0ee09 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #9 0x7fbd23e0f4ba in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #10 0x7fbd23e0f62b in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #11 0x7fbd23e08a79 in KXMLGUIFactory::addClient(KXMLGUIClient*) () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #12 0x7fbd23dfc24d in KXmlGuiWindow::createGUI(QString const&) () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #13 0x7fbd23dfc92b in KXmlGuiWindow::setupGUI(QSize const&, QFlags, QString const&) () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #14 0x7fbd23dfca19 in KXmlGuiWindow::setupGUI(QFlags, QString const&) () from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 #15 0x0040da83 in _start () Getting silly now . Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.10.10-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Aug 30 11:30:06 CEST 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux ___ This message is from the kde mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
Re: [kde] KDE apps crash
On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 10:46:44 + (UTC) Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > P NIKOLIC posted on Wed, 11 Sep 2013 08:44:16 +0100 as excerpted: > > > On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 08:32:55 +0100 P NIKOLIC > > wrote: > > > > > >> Hi . > >> > >> I have recently updated KDE to 4.11.1 on Arch Linux. > >> > >> Prior to the update almost everything worked fine now almost every KDE > >> application i attempt to run crashes instantly including the Kcrash > >> handler .. below are just some of the reports . > > >> Application: KPatience (kpat), signal: Segmentation fault > > Snipping tracebacks... > > >> Application: Kaffeine (kaffeine), signal: Segmentation fault > > > >> Application: Konqueror (konqueror), signal: Segmentation fault > > > >> all crash every time you try to start them that is just the few quick > >> ones but it happens to almost everything ( gtk based apps not > >> effected ) > >> > > Hi and even the System Settings crash > > > Application: System Settings (systemsettings), signal: Segmentation > > fault > > > Getting silly now . Hi Duncan If i have the internet bandwidth i might have had a look at Gentoo but i am Dongal based so it makes it a non starter. > > Gentooer here. > > Such crashes are very likely due to one of three things: Either your > user's kde config is screwed up, or you have an incompatible or missing > library, likely due to bad dependencies in the binary package you > installed, or if you compiled from source, probably due to one of the > depended libs in turn needing an incompatible library, conflicting with > the one kde itself was compiled against. The third possibility, as > reported by someone else on the list, is that for some reason the app > can't contact your user dbus session, so make sure you have dbus running > as your user (you may also have a system dbus running, I believe as root, > tho I don't have one running here). > > It's easy to rule out your user's kde config. Try a clean config. Your > choice whether you do that by creating a new user and fresh home dir with > which to test, or backup/delete or move your existing user's config > (particularly the $KDEHOME dir, ~/.kde by default if $KDEHOME isn't set, > altho some distros make that ~/.kde4 or similar), and try with the > existing user but a clean config. > Tied that one several times no go . > Assuming a clean user config doesn't fix the problem, the next thing to > figure out is whether it's a qt library, a kde library, or something > lower in the system but used by pretty much anything kde that whoever > built that kde might have had a different version of, since you know that > gtk apps aren't affected. > > One simple and quick check is using ldd to check that all needed > libraries can actually be found. Here's the first few lines (plus one > from slightly further in) of my output from ldd /usr/bin/konsole, here > (amd64 system, x86 will be similar but a couple names will be different): > > linux-vdso.so.1 (0x7fff4ffa) > libkdeinit4_konsole.so => /usr/lib64/libkdeinit4_konsole.so > (0x7f903c1e8000) > libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x7f903be4) > libkonsoleprivate.so => /usr/lib64/libkonsoleprivate.so > (0x7f903bb3) > libknotifyconfig.so.4 => /usr/lib64/libknotifyconfig.so.4 > (0x7f903b918000) > > /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7f903c41) > > > There's a general pattern with a couple of exceptions: > > 1) linux-vdso.so.1 is a "virtual" library actually provided by the > kernel. That's why it doesn't have the usual associated path. > > 2) /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 has the full path as part of the library > name, unlike the others which have the name without the path, then what > path the library is actually resolving to. This library is actually the > loader used to find and load all the others, so its path must be hard- > coded as part of the executable itself, or NONE of the others will be > loadable! Cant find any missing libs, everything seems to be ok > > As I said, if you're on 32-bit x86 (or some other arch), the names of > those two might be slightly different, but they should be the same > regardless of what executable you check, because those two libraries are > loaded by pretty much any elf-file executable. > > > The thing you'd be looking for here is any OTHER libraries that don't > list a path or the follow